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5121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 14, 2015, 08:42:45 PM
I still don't understand how anyone interested in Bitcoin can support anything associated with Hearn after hearing anything the guy has to say

Here's a pretty good indication of a shill, or at best someone who is disturbed and threatened by the idea of a 'free' cryoto-currency:  A person who has been around for a while and/or has paid a modicum of attention and does support Hearn's vision and projects.

If everybody adopts a "do the opposite of anything Mike Hearn suggests" policy, then they've just shut their brain off and given complete control over their decision making to Mike Hearn.

It's a great way to achieve the opposite of the stated goal.

When do you guys expect to use btcd as the reference implementation for XT?

5122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 14, 2015, 05:29:57 PM
well now i am just insulted.  i thought they spent all their time here?! Grin
I think I can speak for the majority of the Alt section when I say "we wish they did" Cheesy
And I think I speak for the majority when I say keep this in the alt section, please.

For my part I often get valuable information out of various spats like this and I don't follow most of the other boards.  I don't follow the alt boards at all since I don't have an interest (financially) in any alts and not enough of an interest (intellectually) to justify they effort.  I temper my interpretation of what someone says based on my understanding of the person's affiliations and history.  I always have to be the consensus breaker I guess. 

5123  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: August 14, 2015, 04:28:33 AM
If I were a woman I'd be happy if waste of time were the biggest issue here.  Here's another apropos (and amusing) vid from Melton.  Enjoy:

  ◦*˚Ultimate Super Rad Glam Makeup Tutorial!˚*◦


This was in fact quite funny. But then again, what alternative is there for women? Not use cosmetics at all, or rely on the ones that claim to be biological?


Safe and green....

 Cool


That is actually a very attractive woman to me.  More so than almost any of the dolled-up women posted on the 'let's talk about how hot asian women are' thread.  I don't think it is her decorations one way or another as much as that she is just physically attractive.

What I have found is that no matter who looks like what, one gets used to it after a short time and simply does not notice.  I imagine that if I were living with this woman I would not even notice the face tattoos after a few weeks.

5124  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: August 14, 2015, 04:01:20 AM
If I were a woman I'd be happy if waste of time were the biggest issue here.  Here's another apropos (and amusing) vid from Melton.  Enjoy:

  ◦*˚Ultimate Super Rad Glam Makeup Tutorial!˚*◦


This was in fact quite funny. But then again, what alternative is there for women? Not use cosmetics at all, or rely on the ones that claim to be biological?

I guess I would say 'roll your own' as much as possible.  I (a straight male) personally am turned off by a noticeable amount of makeup when I see it, but that is just me.

I myself have mild rosacea.  A tiny amount of a very general antibiotic applied topically solves the problem completely.  When I ran out of my stockpile a year after I quite work I waited about 4 months for a doctor's appointment to get a prescription then to my horror I found that they wanted $300/mo for the stuff.  In subsequent research I found that most antibiotics are (or were) available as 'fish meds' ostensibly to clean fish tanks.  They are in fact the exact same pills with the exact same lot numbers as what one gets in a pharmacy.  I now make my own face cream for about $3.00/mo or 100x less than I would pay to the Rx.  I'm pretty sure it's an insider thing and probably how most doctors and pharmacists source medicine for their own use.  One $40 purchase on e-bay has gotten me enough metronidozole in powdered form to last a lifetime and the cream base is generic.  Most shelf-lives for antibotics seem to be total bullshit and many of them seem to work after 10 years of storage.  I figure I'm pretty much set for life with what I have on-hand.

If I were a female who felt a need to have at least a little bit of makeup from time to time (which I probably would) I would research the various old formularies and the ingredients they call for and make my own.  In this way I would have a higher confidence that some agenda-21 driven eugenicists and medical/industrial complex scumbags were not poisoning me and would probably save a bundle of money to boot.

5125  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: August 13, 2015, 05:47:19 PM

The Fact that Most Women Wear Makeup Is Now Being Called a Sexist ‘Makeup Tax’


Another very serious problem.

The fact that most women spend more time and money on beauty products than men do isn’t just a reflection of the two sexes’ different priorities — it’s now being called a “makeup tax” and “another form of pay inequality.

” The discussion began when Facebook staffer Libby Brittain asked about it during Hillary Clinton’s July 20 Facebook Q&A:

Every morning, as my boyfriend zips out the door and I spend 30+ minutes getting ready, I wonder about how the ‘hair-and-makeup tax’ affects other women — especially ones I admire in high-pressure, public-facing jobs.

Clinton attempted to look really cool in her reply (it literally began with “Amen, sister!”) but she didn’t actually answer the question about whether or not she considered it a “tax.

” Since then, however, there have been think pieces aplenty about the subject, with some women going even further than Brittain in characterizing how harmful makeup might be.

For example, one piece titled “Women’s health is taxed by makeup, too,” in a liberal blog called Treehugger, explains that the burden goes beyond time and money.

“There’s another way that women pay the makeup tax, one that’s much harder to quantify,” the author, Margaret Badore, continues. “I’m taking (sic) about the price women pay with their health in the pursuit of looking ‘put together.

’” She then lists off a bunch of chemicals that are in makeup that are harmful or something, but concedes that it is “difficult to say how bad for our health many cosmetics really are, because most of the exposure involves very small amounts over long periods of time.

” Sure, the fact that it takes me longer to get ready than a dude is annoying. But, like with many of these types of activist issues, I have to ask: What solution are you proposing, exactly?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422466/women-makeup-sexist-makeup-tax


If I were a woman I'd be happy if waste of time were the biggest issue here.  Here's another apropos (and amusing) vid from Melton.  Enjoy:

  ◦*˚Ultimate Super Rad Glam Makeup Tutorial!˚*◦

5126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 13, 2015, 04:57:49 PM

The problem is that the explanations for those observations are not correct, because they are tautological. They show up in conversations with goldbugs all the time.

Where do you live?  Strawman City?


Q: What is a store of value?
A: Anything that has the properties of gold.
...

Actually, Bitcoin is something I consider a 'store of value' for a close reason.  Neither Bitcoin nor gold have counter-party risk, and that is actually fairly unusual characteristic these days and one I value highly because I consider one of most acute risks associated with wealth preservation to be an economic crisis where one can kiss almost anything with counter-party (or theft) risk bye-bye.

What gold has over Bitcoin is that it does not require a free and high capacity internet to function.  The only 'bandwidth' that gold needs is a ticker signal and that could be accomplished even with fairly low latency without a functional internet at all.  Even then, this need is a nicety more than a necessity.

Under conditions of economic crisis I believe it almost certain that there will be a significant clamp-down on the free flow of information.  Unfortunately this is termed an 'internet kill switch' which is misleading.  I expect it to be implemented as a shift from simply monitoring internet traffic to actively blocking that of it which is potentially damaging to those seeking to maintain control and shape society.  IOW, we will still have access to our porn and mainstream movies from an authorized intellectual property owner through large corporate providers, but it will be to 'dangerous to society' for unauthorized people to communicate directly with one another or to allow subversive ideas and data to be disseminated.

Bitcoin used in certain sophisticated ways which force multiply the bandwidth still has 'store of value' potential to me which is why I am still a hodler.  The simple reason for this is that it can at least in theory function in a world which is much different than we see today but is very likely to exist at the time when it actually matters.

That, in a nutshell, is why I am so opposed to growing Bitcoin in simplistic ways which box us in to a reliance on assumptions about the global internet based on the common experiences of today and most people's expectations for tomorrow.  'Dumb growth' hacks off what many people consider to be a vestigial appendage but to me it represents a very big part of the 'store of value' proposition for Bitcoin and one that makes it somewhat competitive with gold.

5127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 13, 2015, 03:41:31 PM

There is no such thing as a store of value.


There is no such thing as a thing.

Separateness is an illusion.  All that exists is the Unified Field and the Void (sort of).

Oh sorry, I thought I was in a late night dorm room session discussing our Epistomology 101 homework, not a thread for adults focused on the practical implications of Gold vs Bitcoin.

Yo dawg, pass that sick glass you got at Pipes Plus over here...   Cheesy

Here's a store of value.



Wow.  That's like totally intense, man!

5128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 12, 2015, 07:57:08 PM
...
you do know that real ppl actually hurt themselves from severe myopia?  i can fix that for you.

Word to the wise:  Don't let a guy who is preoccupied looking at economic charts operate on your eyes with a laser beam:



5129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 12, 2015, 06:43:37 PM

sometimes little dogs just like to bark:



Gold is up lately in case you didn't notice.  Some say that the next upswing will probably take us to around $9000/oz in constant dollar terms.

5130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 12, 2015, 06:11:57 PM

This is a fundamental disagreement on the value of Bitcoin then which IMO is first SOV then payment network.

There is no such thing as a store of value.

Just because you collectivists don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  This is a wonderful example of how degenerate your philosophical flights of fancy have become and how much they have degraded your understandings of reality.


You've described the religious approach to understanding money.

Pot - Kettle - Black

5131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 12, 2015, 12:45:39 PM
Gold up.  Cypherdoc collapsing.
5132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 11, 2015, 12:24:29 AM
...
again, one of my reasons for wanting to increase blocksize is to increase competition in mining outside of China to those who have greater bandwidth.  this would help level the playing field.

'Again', eh?  I'd never heard you make that argument before though you are a veritable fountain of desperate nonesense.

But ya, we like totally have to keep them slanty-eyed chinks from horning in on our distributed crypto-currency.

As Gavin says, people are obviously going to trust their own government more than others to manage things in the best interests of their countrymen.  And you never know what those commies would do if they got control.

5133  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: August 10, 2015, 11:42:56 PM
I would beg to differ.  El Paso, Texas is one of the safest places to live in the USA, but it is a hundred yards from Juarez, one of the most violent of Mexican cities.  And the bad guys cross back and forth across the border all the time.

Why is it so safe?  Because they know there is likely a gun in every house.  And no, they are not useless and all safely locked up.

I've said it before but I'll reiterate.  This is exactly the situation in my area.  Minimal law enforcement, high unemployment, low earnings, lots and lots of tweakers and generally younger people running around causing problems of various types.  Almost zero confrontational property crime.  I am certain that this is largely attributable to the fact that most people are armed at least well enough to protect themselves and their property.

It is also the case that people don't necessarily always lock up their guns in a safe (which is a bit counter-productive for home defense use) and I don't remember an incident where there was an accidental shooting.  There could be some that I've not heard of, but I follow the sheriff's log of and on and I don't remember seeing one ever.  My sense is that the problem of accidental shootings (or non-accidental ones for that matter) is a puffed up canard.

I would say that it is not true that a 'one size fits all' policy on firearms makes sense for individual communities.  The policy in my area and surrounding counties suits us just fine.  In fact the county sheriff's in all such counties are pushing back hard on the gun-grabbing agenda coming out of our urban population centers in our state, and I believe that it is because they are well aware of the benefits for our community.  Indeed, they and their families live here themselves so they have a vested interest in the well-being of our communities.  They are also elected by members of the communities.

It is interesting to me to find out that the same basic principles of widespread gun ownership seem to work in larger population areas like El Paso.  I never even considered owning a gun when I lived in Silicon Valley.  As a white professional I figured I could get help from the cops fairly quickly if need be and probably would not end up suffering from lead poisoning brought on by their visit.

5134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 10, 2015, 07:16:22 PM
Gold up.  Cypherdoc collapsing.

tvbcof:  "woof, woof!":



I thought for a minute that you may have figured out the incredibly complex technology required to make your images appropriately sized for your post (hint:  width={nnn} within the opening img tag.)  Guess not.

5135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 10, 2015, 05:28:49 PM
Gold up.  Cypherdoc collapsing.

It's up, but I'd rather it be down.  Cry

The house I've got on the market has not sold yet so I don't really care one way or another.  It would be nice to get one big giant push downward in PMs when I get a wad of cash which needs a home as long as the price decline was reflected in physical.

5136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 10, 2015, 04:54:56 PM
Gold up.  Cypherdoc collapsing.
5137  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: August 10, 2015, 07:32:24 AM

Seattle To Pass ‘Gun Violence’ Tax on Guns And Ammo…

There isn’t a far-left issue that the Seattle City Council hasn’t passed or considered passing. So you just knew that they would get around to screwing gun owners in some novel and inventive way.

How about a $25 tax on every firearm sold? Add to that a 5 cent tax on every cartridge and you have the typical liberal assault on law-abiding gun owners.

But that’s only part of the package. There’s also a provision to require  gun owners to report the theft or loss of any firearm within 24 hours.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/08/09/seattle-gun-violence-tax-set-to-pass/?utm_term=%23tcot


Tax skiiing, bicycling, kayaking, etc.  Same rationals apply insofar as rescues and injuries from such optional endeavors cost money and it does not always fall to the injured to pick up the tab.

5138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 10, 2015, 03:36:23 AM
testing versions of XT available on the nodes monitor:

http://xtnodes.com/

Justusranviar and cypherdoc describe the XT system and infrastructure footprint:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE17sNjmW7c

5139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 10, 2015, 01:51:15 AM

of course little dogs like you won't comment on the part about censorship.  i wouldn't expect you to get it.

I just sensed that iCE would and could do a better job on this than I...and I was not disappointed:

...
--> 37 "I have buttburn" votes (including lulzy typical-redditard whining about "ZOMG CENSORSHIP!!!1! HALP I'M BEING OPPRESSED").

#REKT

HALP!    LOL Smiley

5140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 10, 2015, 12:11:29 AM

BitcoinXT is a classic alt-coin.  A non-compatible change to the protocol undertaken by a minority of Bitcoin contributors (and minor contributors at that.)

I again wish them luck and I am hopeful that a large segment of the Bitcoin community jumps onboard with the XT project since it will produce a much more healthy ecosystem for those who do not.

This is what I would like to hear from every "1 MB forevah" supporter. I wonder why are they so afraid of a hard fork ...

Can't take 'yes' for an answer?  I said clearly that I wish you guys would get on with it with your bloatcoin and quite flapping your gums.  Bring it on already!


Yeah, but don't you wonder why your opinion is not popular between the 1MB folks?

Not really.  It is more common than not for my opinion to not mesh well with the majority of any group, and that is very common among groups with whom I find myself in alignment.

I suppose it would not be fair to say that I don't 'wonder' about these things.  I've got various hypotheses about why a majority of the 1MB's, or at least those who's opinions are know, differ from my own stance.  There is no very good reason to outline them at present.

In looking more carefully at this conversation I note that I did mis-read it and my response was not completely appropriate.  For that I apologize.

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