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Why should I emulate a loser? Change for what? I'll keep doing what made me very successful in my life. Which is code, market, and win.
And stop trying to be nice to a bunch of irrelevant fools who are jealous and insatiably fickle any way.
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It is painfully clear to any level-headed person that you attackers started to go ballastic when the poll on the ion.cash name was running in the 80% approval zone.
I never seen so many whining crybaby jealous fools in one forum in my life.
It is so incredibly obvious that this is all about jealousy.
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CoinCube it is going to be interesting to see to what degree that ominous potential you describe plays out (you draw a lot from some themes I have popularized on these forums).
I am still working hard and hoping for a more widely and rapidly adopted Knowledge Age. Thinking the Asians are poised to adopt my new software coming. I am over here in Asia and ready to market to them. Think new social networks accepting micropayments (remember I coded an entire such site in April and have it on standby, etc). I don't think they give a flying fuck about Bitcointalk.org.
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CoinCube it is going to be interesting to see to what degree that ominous potential you describe plays out (you draw a lot from some themes I have popularized on these forums).
I am still working hard and hoping for a more widely and rapidly adopted Knowledge Age. Thinking the Asians are poised to adopt my new software coming. I am over here in Asia and ready to market to them. Think new social networks accepting micropayments (remember I coded an entire such site in April and have it on standby, etc). I don't think they give a flying fuck about Bitcointalk.org.
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I had gone into elaborate analysis as to why proof-of-stake and reputation based systems are inherently centralizing.
Proof-of-work has the potential be an unbounded entropy (i.e. effectively random and not gameable) up to 25 - 51% (25 - 33% for selfish mining) concentrated control of the hash rate. That is where I agree with smooth's caveat, except if permission-less commerce is the goal even that caveat has another caveat which is you've still got to find sufficient hash rate to push your transaction through without KYC if 51% of the hash rate is regulated for KYC.
You can't push anything through period if 51% is regulated because that 51% will reject unapproved (not signed with a MSB license number) blocks. That's the 51% attack right there. I wrote if that if the 51% is regulated to require KYC meaning on the transactions in the blocks those miners/pools create. I didn't write that the regulation forced them to also hard fork the chain protocol and reject blocks that don't have KYC along with transaction in the blocks produced by the other 49%. Indeed it is probably likely that if regulation requires the former, then it might require the latter, but as you like to always say "not necessarily so". You see a hard fork might be more difficult political quagmire, so I think my distinction was apropos. Without that issue, I contend that owning the hash rate yourself is not really necessary to push the transaction through yourself because as long as the system is permissionless you can always find someone to push it through for you for a fee. Anywhere you go in the world, even under the most authoritarian regimes, you can always find a black market if you look for it. Thus such oppression really becomes a question of how much it costs to push a transaction through, not whether you can do it at all.
With that attitude I can see why Monero has gone no where fast. The velocity of money collapses in your solution. I have a much more superior solution than that! I wouldn't tolerate a solution that forces people to enter the underworld just send a transaction. Going back to the original case, Bitcoin's security model simply does not work at all if 51% (really >50%, or >25% or >33% or really even a moderately-large smaller share that could easily collude with some other moderately-large smaller share to form such a bloc) of the hash rate is attacking it.
Yeah Bitcoin is dead in the water. Any thing new to say? It can be a temporary condition though, where users can just sit on their keys and wait it out, like a hurricane. Whether that is effective is a complex political game theory question that you probably agree we can't really answer and is best avoided altogether if you want any kind of strong security model. That requires either a fundamentally different system or a much better distribution of mining than exists today.
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I would never use any product you are behind, for one simple reason: yourself and your foul mouth and your self-righteousness!
Perfect. You are so damn self-important. You do not matter. Sorry to inform you. Haha, you thought you had won with your political bullshit. You fucking losers are so damn predictable. |
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Steve Jobs may have pushed his employees but he did not go on public forums to call his potential investors "dumb as shit" and "losers"
If you cannot respect others and their point of view then they will not respect you, nor will they invest in you when there are literally thousands of other projects to choose from where they can have a civil discussion.
I really do not care about your MS and please stop playing the victim game.
Ah stop your whining. You are not the users. You are jealous losers, soon to be butt lickers. And I will kick your ass in code. End of story. After that I might even call an attorney so I can spend some of my stash on a little payback. Just imagine if one could get paid for butt licking and whining like a bitch. Then you wouldn't be such a sorry ass jealous loser. You wanted a fight. Now you got one. |
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I have no technical skills. I guess the counter argument to (2) is that a lot of people initially believe its possible for miners (e.g. mining in a pool) to steal work, and it takes some effort to convince them that they can't.
Except they can. It is called a Share Withholding Attack which I learned from reading Meni Rosenfeld's 2011 white paper, where the miner withholds the shares which are winning blocks, thus stealing the work of the other honest miners in the pool. And his proposed solution oblivious shares was apparently never adopted by Bitcoin. Given the high variance afaik this sort of cheating can't be detected statistically very well. The motivation for doing this could be for the purposes of monopolizing pooling to drive up transaction fees, when debasement ends, because transactions fees are a Tragedy of the Commons. |
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I guess the counter argument to (2) is that a lot of people initially believe its possible for miners (e.g. mining in a pool) to steal work, and it takes some effort to convince them that they can't.
Except they can. It is called a Share Withholding Attack which I learned from reading Meni Rosenfeld's 2011 white paper, where the miner withholds the shares which are winning blocks, thus stealing the work of the other honest miners in the pool. And his proposed solution oblivious shares was apparently never adopted by Bitcoin. Given the high variance afaik this sort of cheating can't be detected statistically very well. The motivation for doing this could be for the purposes of monopolizing pooling to drive up transaction fees, when debasement ends, because transactions fees are a Tragedy of the Commons. |
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Isn't it a fucking shame how much time we lose trying to please every fickle ego on this forum. This thread is an abomination.
Linus Torvalds says almost are the people are dumb as shit. And nobody uses Linux because of that?
Steve Jobs was well known to tell everyone around them frankly they were under performing. And nobody uses or respects Apple's products? Do you think my gf gives a fuck what Steve Jobs said or did. If I give her a new iPhone, she will be ears-to-ears grinning.
Bill Gates was known to do the same berating of employees that Steve Jobs did. Did Microsoft not kick ass during his prime years?
You all can whine as much as you want, but it won't matter in the end. All that matters is who is going to deliver the product that users have a very strong use case to use.
If I deliver a product to a millions users, you will be right there licking my butt. And that is what I mean when I say "I want to kick your ass". I mean I want to show you what fucking whining ass losers you are.
I don't give a fuck what you think. Show me your technical abilities and maybe I might respect you.
Seriously you do not matter. What matters is the code and product I release.
P.S. Can you tell my M.S. is going into remission, hehe. Feeling too strong!
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Know who your "friends" are, and don't treat them with contempt.
I discovered that here in cryptoland, you can never be quite sure who your friends are. You were gleeful when you thought I had destroyed my political reputation with users. As if that is going to help you compete with me. Gleeful??? Oh man!   You are so focused on how thin skinned everyone is. You immediately jump on my words "users know they are stupid" wherein I explaining that in the context of "they want easier and don't want to be bothered". Why do you hold me to such a fine toothed comb scrutiny? All that matters is who delivers a product that is popular and solves the needs that users and investors have. You try to frame it as if by defending my reputation against a punk, that I have destroyed my chance to do anything important in Cryptoland. You are effectively saying that we have to be politically correct else we are useless. And I reject that. The entire Western world is fucked up with that and the tide is turning. Do you see how popular Donald Trump is because he is saying "stop the politically correct bullshit". My time is coming. And you will learn some new tricks. Not everyone is out to get you, seriously.
Not everyone. If you become a serious threat to certain groups, they will be out to get you. My perception is that so far no one is taking you that seriously, so that is why they are not attacking you too much. They are attacking me because my claims are serious. I don't mince my words. I say frankly what is. I look forward to the opportunity to go head to head with you, and may the best tech+marketing+direction+everything in between win....I'd feel cheated out of potential victory if you were to screw things up yourself before we got the chance.
Sure great. I also applaud more competition and also more experiments on how to solve the problems in today's world. As I told everyone close to me, I am doing my work because I want to use it. I want these features. It isn't just for everyone else. It is for me too. Edit: what is really disappointing from my side is I told my inner group that we would have a policy of not responding to attacks. And then I violated the policy I was advocating. This taught me an important lesson. That is Bitcointalk is dysfunctional. Even members of my own inner group have been sucked into these cat fights. It has happened to nearly everyone on the forum. Edit#2: and what I had been thinking over the past say 24-36 hours or so, is that it is going to require a complete break away from Bitcointalk. I was already leaning that direction with my statements about a Wiki. And now I am thinking even more simplified than that. I am think all that really matters is the end user client. They either are enticed to use it or not. |
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Know who your "friends" are, and don't treat them with contempt.
I discovered that here in cryptoland, you can never be quite sure who your friends are. You were gleeful when you thought I had destroyed my political reputation with users. As if that is going to help you compete with me. We'll be friends I guess if we are both working on the same project and ecosystem. I am friendly with you to the extent you are friendly with me. |
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You've taken (so far) 2 years or whatever to write a paper and form your ideas, so I hope you were stating the time I've spent as a negative.
Yes 2.5 years to go from Bitcoin 101 to getting to the point where I could make better anonymity than Zerocash and Blockstream combined! But also remember I was suffering extremely debilitating CFS where I would spend the entire day trying to keep my eyes open and try to ignore the headache and abdominal pain. You try working in that condition. Just here in September I got so pissed off at this lame condition, that I decided to not eat for 10 days. Then I started drinking this Kombucha tea and only eating vegetables and coconut, nothing else. No meat, no carbos, no protein. I am nearly certain now I have correlated my M.S. to gut dysbiosis. I was about to do a self-administered fecal transplant as a desperate last resort attempt to get my ability to work restored. Luckily appears the fasting + Kombucha + change in diet is going to work. We're yet to see the validity of those claims so I'm not going to comment on it. :exasperated: What has this world come to if someone suffers and then no one believes you if you tell them. Any way I do not care. I know what I have struggled through. And I do not appreciate what Smoothie did to me. End of story. Edit: if you are referring to the claim on anonymity, again I don't care what anyone thinks now. All that matters is what is. And I know what is. |
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I tend to agree, but there are cases where I wouldn't. For example, if the crowd of them became more emboldened and the attacks became too severe to remain productive. Then it might be worth wrecking someone's life with a Cyberstalking criminal complaint to instill some fear.
Or you could just go under the radar for 12 months like I did, concentrate on what you are doing, and pop up when you have more concrete stuff to show. Indeed. All that really matters is who delivers something to the users. Again the users are not here in Bitcointalk. If you have the users, the investors will flock in and fight to be line. Doesn't matter if your users are here on Bitcointalk or not, there is now a public record of your reaction to something that is trivial, and it will only hinder you later. Nonsense. Users can't even research what a Satoshi is. They could care less. This issue is not trivial. And now you're calling your users stupid, in public.... I'm respectfully just offering my sincere advice regarding things Ive witnessed over the years that can, and does sometimes come back to bite you hard....do what you will with it Users know they are stupid. They like easy to use stuff. They don't want to be bothered. Do you realize you are talking to someone who has successfully marketed to users. Do you realize the same? So even if they are stupid, and they know it, they won't appreciate being told that they are. Could you imagine if Apple launched a new product and at the launch talk they implied that all users were stupid and told them as such? There would be a boycott of all Apples products. Don't make the mistake of confusing stupidity with a desire for convenience. Who said I would literally tell users they are stupid? Do you assume I am totally insane? You think I am going to display "you are stupid" in relevant places. Of course Apple tells its users they are stupid. It tells them they need a walled garden Appstore, and a white color fanboy attitude, etc.. |
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You've taken (so far) 2 years or whatever to write a paper and form your ideas, so I hope you were stating the time I've spent as a negative.
Yes 2.5 years to go from Bitcoin 101 to getting to the point where I could make better anonymity than Zerocash and Blockstream combined! But also remember I was suffering extremely debilitating CFS where I would spend the entire day trying to keep my eyes open and try to ignore the headache and abdominal pain. You try working in that condition. Just here in September I got so pissed off at this lame condition, that I decided to not eat for 10 days. Then I started drinking this Kombucha tea and only eating vegetables and coconut, nothing else. No meat, no carbos, no protein. I am nearly certain now I have correlated my M.S. to gut dysbiosis. I was about to do a self-administered fecal transplant as a desperate last resort attempt to get my ability to work restored. Luckily appears the fasting + Kombucha + change in diet is going to work. You think someone willing to not eat for 10 days and then eat only veggies and coconut is not dedicated about to his work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you only knew how much I struggled to get back to where I am now. The coding will be much easier than what I had to go through to get back here. |
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I tend to agree, but there are cases where I wouldn't. For example, if the crowd of them became more emboldened and the attacks became too severe to remain productive. Then it might be worth wrecking someone's life with a Cyberstalking criminal complaint to instill some fear.
Or you could just go under the radar for 12 months like I did, concentrate on what you are doing, and pop up when you have more concrete stuff to show. Indeed. All that really matters is who delivers something to the users. Again the users are not here in Bitcointalk. If you have the users, the investors will flock in and fight to be line. Doesn't matter if your users are here on Bitcointalk or not, there is now a public record of your reaction to something that is trivial, and it will only hinder you later. Nonsense. Users can't even research what a Satoshi is. They could care less. This issue is not trivial. And now you're calling your users stupid, in public.... I'm respectfully just offering my sincere advice regarding things Ive witnessed over the years that can, and does sometimes come back to bite you hard....do what you will with it Users know they are stupid. They like easy to use stuff. They don't want to be bothered. Do you realize you are talking to someone who has successfully marketed to users. |
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I tend to agree, but there are cases where I wouldn't. For example, if the crowd of them became more emboldened and the attacks became too severe to remain productive. Then it might be worth wrecking someone's life with a Cyberstalking criminal complaint to instill some fear.
Or you could just go under the radar for 12 months like I did, concentrate on what you are doing, and pop up when you have more concrete stuff to show. Indeed. All that really matters is who delivers something to the users. Again the users are not here in Bitcointalk. If you have the users, the investors will flock in and fight to be line. Doesn't matter if your users are here on Bitcointalk or not, there is now a public record of your reaction to something that is trivial, and it will only hinder you later. Nonsense. Users can't even research what a Satoshi is. They could care less. This issue is not trivial. And you've been coding for 3 years and still haven't finished? I haven't really been coding (much) yet. Cripes I created the first version of Cool Page in 1.5 months. In 3 months, the sales topped $3000 a month (inflation adjusted). Two years later at nearly a million downloads (when the internet was 1/10 the population) and up to $100,000 a month in revenue (inflation adjusted). |
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I tend to agree, but there are cases where I wouldn't. For example, if the crowd of them became more emboldened and the attacks became too severe to remain productive. Then it might be worth wrecking someone's life with a Cyberstalking criminal complaint to instill some fear.
Or you could just go under the radar for 12 months like I did, concentrate on what you are doing, and pop up when you have more concrete stuff to show. Indeed. All that really matters is who delivers something to the users. Again the users are not here in Bitcointalk. If you have the users, the investors will flock in and fight to be line. Instead what everyone else but Bitcoin and Dogecoin did is try to get the investors first before the users. When Bitcoin was launched, the miners were the users. |
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Well, I still couldn't be arsed, attorneys can be as difficult to deal with as the people you are suing!
Id just rather not cry over split milk for something as trivial as some name calling and push on.
I tend to agree, but there are cases where I wouldn't. For example, if the crowd of them became more emboldened and the attacks became too severe to remain productive. Then it might be worth wrecking someone's life with a Cyberstalking criminal complaint to instill some fear. First he disrupted my discussion with r0ach in r0ach's thread. Then he came to my thread and disrupted until I had to ask them to create another thread for it. Then in that new thread he attacks me. And this all before I ever issued any curse words against him. You didn't answer Smoothie's astute question. And your dichotomous assumptions are very myopic. You do not entertain all the possibilities... P.S. no personal offense intended. I will appreciate the debate and discussion with you at the appropriate time. I allowed you to push me for more information and discussion than is advisable at this time for my project. Add: I really appreciate all the interest in this topic. It is an important one. Please go elsewhere given you already asked people not to discuss delegation and this thread is simply about ion delegation. Thanks  Let's see if you still react that way if there is a " Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" next to your name on every post you make. |
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That is of course correct advice Fuseleer, except Come-from-Beyond is also correct that is what attorneys are for if it is worthwhile. Btw, did you see in my quote of AnonyMint upthread, that you and I were in discussions back in 2013. Oh and here I am stumbling onto to my 2013 research again... It consumes less electricity. Miners or delegates or validators or whatever will expend resources only to the extent justified by transaction processing profit margin, which delegates in DPoS will also do. In fact DPoS may well have high profit margins because the number of delegates is fixed, making it a closed market. So perhaps less electricity, but if so then more resources expended on something else (politics most likely). (This assumes that the coin distribution phase of Bitcoin is over or insignificant, which must be done to meaningfully compare with DPoS since DPoS is incapable of distributing coins at all.) Thus as I pointed out in 2013, a very high incentive exists to centralize mining, because transactions fees are a Tragedy of the Commons. We keep coming back to the research I did in 2013. I had already figured all this stuff out back then. I had even pointed out the block size issue back in 2013, which is now the raging problem today with BitcoinXT alias GavinCoin. |
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