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5121  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁Most Popular Dice & Roulette🎁 on: August 09, 2017, 10:21:47 PM
HELP the problem is back again  Huh
Code:
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
it's can open with VPN on mobile phone but can't login (after the update)
what happen, its just me or Bitsler has a problem ? 🙄
Currently bitsler has no problem and there are nearly 1700 players online. I think problem should be fixed for now. Also there has passed 5 hour from your post and please check bitsler again. If there are still problems, write here as usual or send pm to Baryom.
Seems some people had problems also because number of players is growing and growing as I check in time of writing this post.
5122  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better investement right now, bitcoins or Altcoins. on: August 09, 2017, 09:28:35 PM
I want to mention that every altcoin depends on bitcoin's price. Also trusting to altcoins is hard, for example remind latest news about stealing ethereums. Currently bitcoin is more independence and safe. As we see it's goalbis rising and rising. I can't say how safe will be serious investment but thinking about that last summer would be good than thinking now when price rised so quickly and so highly.
5123  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: August 09, 2017, 09:06:05 PM

First of all that man already accepted his inital balance before he claim bonus.
According to him, the receipt of 2 BTC did not resolve his case:

I would like to share with you a part of my unfull refund.

The case is half resolved.

I can say may be at that time, duckdice not yet pay he full of 2 btc yet. But after that, I think this is already fix


The second thing, that winning profit from your calculation, it is after he claimed the bonus, so if he cancelled the bonus no matter how much profit you got there, it will not be counted. This is pretty common thing on gambling
I personally can not see based on which laws winnings are invalid if you received a bonus on top of your deposit? According to this "logic", losses must be also invalid then.

However, this is not the point here, because the bonus canceling process is juridical not valid, as Ozafejw782 was animated to click the |Cancel Bonus| button based on the criminal offense of false representation.

Hence, he has the right to complete the wagering requirement and thereafter his expected balance is 8.76 BTC.

This is so ridiculous, he was the one who take this bonus yet to cancel it too. If I understand well the terms, no matter how much profit he get as long as he still not complete the wagering, I do not think it will be called as profit. Although he already make it half way or even 90% completed as long as it never hit 100% wagering, I can say you still do not get those profit. Every site will have this conditions as well


I believe it's both sides fault.

DuckDice.io - You need to make much more detailed explanation on how your bonus is functioning and how exactly you are counting wagers. With example on different % chance, what happens if you want to cancel, etc.

Player - when you accept a bonus, you need to understand and complain the bonus rules. You can't cancel it in the middle because you like your profit. Your profit is made with bonus funds.
I want to mention also: If you want to claim bonus, you have to wager x55. Isn't this number a lot? Forget that, users even don't have right to cancel bonus. On normal websites user can to try his max and fight for bonus or stop this fight and get current money (without bonus) back, for example like FJ has as I know from my experience.
5124  Economy / Lending / Re: ★ ★ ★ LENDING ► CONDORAS SERVICE ◄ ESCROW ★ ★ ★ on: August 09, 2017, 02:57:05 PM
Loan Amount:0.01 BTC
Reason: Personal  
BTC Address: 1KVfBHAY4AfdeoKngvFr78JxeyQnUHcgvT     
Term Length: Will pay in 4 day   
Collateral: No

Address: 1Gio8A6zSxqQWE5UgYLnHYGbgHH3k6WQQH
Message: Today is 9 august, 2017 year and I am requesting 0.01 btc loan from condoras.
Signature: GzoSD/l4NS3CGK0BDT9KM71/VnEViRSkclk+vJLSO00lUaq/f5CvedanOOCnAhWaxD4S9sRlV4JHuP4kHvnywyY=

Will repay 0.015 btc in 4 days, thanks for loan.

EDIT: ahh my typo Cheesy thanks for correction Cheesy
5125  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BITMIXER.CO - Bitcoin Mixer & Tumbler - Anonymous Bitcoin Mixer on: August 08, 2017, 10:51:38 PM
Oh guys, whatever will happem, no one can believe me that your mixer is really mixer and not a shit scam. Cmon man, you create website with very known name: Bitmixer. And you do this after they closed. Changing .io to .co don't means you are like new company.
Don't want to be rude but I think this thread must be closed and removed. Site which claims to be safe mixer and uses another mixer's name, isn't something to trust.

Not necessarily. I do agree that it is a shady business practice as I explained in my previous post in this thread, but it could also purely have been named the same for the business part of it-- that is garnering all the previous BitMixer uses. What I am warning about is mostly that this should be considered a completely new unrelated service and that previous customers should not get confused. Sure, the liability might not fall directly on BitMixer.co's lap, but they do know what they are doing and whether they want to clear it up on their website or not is strictly under their control. That is really the only part of concern. Their legitimacy as a mixer is still to be tested, but so far it is not tainted since no scam accusations have appeared. Once some feedback comes in, the situation might change. It is too early to call it a scam.
Imagine google decided to stop their search engine website and after some days someone comes and says: google.io is new and trustful search engine service.
Is this logical? We don't have to see scam accusations for proofs, it's worst situation because someone loses huge amount and everything becomes clear after that.
That's all I wanted to say.
5126  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Scammers have stolen my money on: August 08, 2017, 10:14:20 PM
Sorry for hearing that. Yeah, you should not have to believe in vague videos or words, especially if it offers you so much money. Well, I think it's very difficult to get your money back.
Why you say very difficult Grin? This amount BTC will never comeback unless hacker refund him, let's look at this as a lesson worthy for him and for the future use Bitcoin, it helps him know keep his private key or phrase words very important.
Everyone knows that hacker won't refund money (sounds funny). Seems you are very new here and that's why you have to ask or read important things. It's bitcoin's nature: sent money never returnes back. It's not paypal and as you see, mistakes can cause lost of money.
See this also: https://bitcoin.org/en/faq
5127  Economy / Economics / Re: How long could bitcoin last? on: August 08, 2017, 09:56:51 PM
Don't think only about price guys, bitcoin's price will be good as always but there is one tast which makes me feel not so well. What will happen if someone who has really huge amount of bitcoins, for example 1000btc and after his/her death, access on that wallet will be lost? Well, 1000 is nothing but in more years, this number will grow and since bitcoin is limited supply, what will happen after those lost coins?
5128  Economy / Economics / Re: CNBC hosts are worried about BTC being x3 oz of gold on: August 08, 2017, 08:20:10 PM
Still can't understand how this people can compare bitcoin to gold. Bitcoin is virtual and gold is real, isn't there big difference?
Bitcoin's price is usually measured in usd (or any currency, who cares). So behind usd, there is gold. If we remove gold, than money is just paper and bitcoin will become just waste of electricity and equipment.
So nothing important in this news.
5129  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BITMIXER.CO - Bitcoin Mixer & Tumbler - Anonymous Bitcoin Mixer on: August 07, 2017, 09:32:45 PM
Oh guys, whatever will happem, no one can believe me that your mixer is really mixer and not a shit scam. Cmon man, you create website with very known name: Bitmixer. And you do this after they closed. Changing .io to .co don't means you are like new company.
Don't want to be rude but I think this thread must be closed and removed. Site which claims to be safe mixer and uses another mixer's name, isn't something to trust.
5130  Economy / Exchanges / Re: XAPO or...? on: August 06, 2017, 11:36:28 PM
Xapo is a very good bitcoin debit card/wallet. Their exchange rate is very good and also services they offer us. If you want anonymity, then xapo isn't a good choise. On another hand, fees are very low and if you need to withdraw or make actions on huge amount of money, you need to send them some more images and everything will be ok.
5131  Economy / Services / Re: Bitsler Signature & Avatar Campaign (Rates Changed)(up to .0375/week) on: August 04, 2017, 02:15:46 AM


Congrats to yahoo62278(Me) weeeeeee for this weeks lottery. Sheet has been turned into Baryom
oh yahoo, I wanted to win for this weeks lottery Cheesy Make one lucky roll for me Cheesy
Nevermind (or mind lol).. Wish you more wins, our manager deserves this..
5132  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTC Dice websites with faucet & 9900x roll possibility? on: August 03, 2017, 11:55:38 PM
OP just want to inform that if you play frequently on those websites with that strategy (claiming faucets and rolling 9900x) you are simply wasting your energy and time. For example on bitsler, if you are Legendary member than you can claim faucet as many times as you want and that's really good idea and you have very high chanses to win on that roll but for Legendary you need to wage nearly 2000 btc. On another hand claiming faucets with daily limit is waste of time.
5133  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading sucks, I'll just hold my coins on: August 03, 2017, 11:22:39 PM
One of the biggest trust I have read here, thanks OP for sharing your opinion here, I think this thread must be pinned to avoid seing crying faces of another unsuccessful traders.
Man on youtube people took videos to earn money from youtube ads, no one cares on your pocket. Also to become good in trading, there are many demo platforms to play with points.
Also holding isn't option here but it's better if you want more guaranteed profit, just need to learn waiting for long time.
I advice you to forget that holding and trading if you lose, save nervous and your health.
5134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Above $3000 before Aug1. on: August 03, 2017, 10:03:50 PM
Situation is the same, previous month price was mostly nearly 2800$. I think situation will be the same. Now we see stable very high priced bitcoin. I think in this month bitcoin will reach 3000$ and it will be new record (btw every rise is record but I mean 2000, 3000 and similar numbers).
I think if it won't fall after fork and become standart higher, it will rise again, there is no doubt but let's wait and see.
5135  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Loss almost 40%, should stop trading or not ? on: August 03, 2017, 09:24:32 PM
Have you invested your total income or save something. If you invested max part of your income then stop trading. When you are losing then there is always a panic situation in mind which is harmful . So better to stop and have some rest.

Yeah you're putting more risk in your investments if you go all in on a single trade. Diversifying makes you live another day if a trade doesn't go very well and most traders would advise to use this strategy. It's always panicking to see all your investments drop in a single dump of an alt.
And never ever forget to invest only money which you don't need. Treat investing like burning money. It's still safer than gambling. Don't go all in and learn poker or trading whichever is easier. I personally found out talent in stocks while poker is hard to understand for me.
Poker is hard instead trading and investing because there are many chances in poker that you can loss your money while in trading there are many chances to become a rich to have a good profit to have a good deal to make links and investing you can have bright future you can have extra money after period of times while in poker these things are nothing happan you just lost the point where you want to start.
It's not so easy to become rich with trading. The rule of trade is someone wins and someone lose. So usually in trading winners are big and very serious players. Your proposal sounds well but if we think deeply, it's possible but it's hard and requires knowledge with some luck because without luck that knowledge can cause loss in many times.
5136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is it normal for a btc book to have a withdrawal fee on: August 03, 2017, 09:03:27 PM
yes due to the requirement by miners in order to get the transaction go faster even there are only ~4000 unconfirmed transactions as of this reply is posted, everyone is posting a higher transaction fees. unless the majority is lowering the transaction fee to use bitcoin, the .0006 fee is normal.
0.006 withdrawal fee is normal? Are you kidding man? Even for huge transactions that's very, very big fee. On bitsler there is 0.0002, 0.0004 and 0.0006 btc fee maximum and no one had problem on withdrawing many bitcoin. Why? Because there isn't need of more fee. 0.006 fee means that they don't want to let people withdraw their bitcoins. Imagine when you have 0.005btc and want to withdraw you can't because of 0.006 fee and you gamble again, that's trick....
5137  Economy / Economics / Re: Never Fear! Buy Bitcoins to make your life clear! on: August 03, 2017, 08:42:09 PM
buying Bitcoin is always one of the safest decision you can make. well, for now, it is so much safer that it almost became impossible to even get faster profits like we can get with altcoins. except for some huge principle but that also gives us a very good advantage that we won't face price risk every day its now rare anyway people still believe Bitcoin has a lot of potential and the price can go even higher.
I can't agree you because bitcoin price changes very often and if suddenly we need money, there is a chanse that price will be lower than it was when we bought. From current situation it seems we can profit even if we buy it on lower price but imagine, when price was 1000$ (years ago) and someone bought it. Then prise decreased and it was needed more than 6 year to get profit.
5138  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud mining or genesis mining. on: August 03, 2017, 08:04:44 PM
I would say: It's almost impossible to get ROI from genesis mining so don't worths to try, it will be loss of money.
If you want to test cloud mining websites, there are also hashing 24 and minergate but AFAIK you can't sell hashrate here (better to forget them).
Now better choise to avoid losing of money is hashnest. Good website to test cloud mining because you can sell hashrates and get your money back.
But avoid investing in cloud mining, you won't see any good profit, only wasting of time.
5139  Economy / Economics / Re: could bitcoin be replaced by another crypto currency? on: August 03, 2017, 07:34:10 PM
It's really good question to discuss. We all know that many people prefers bitcoin because it is old, known and trusted. But there are something which people don't like as time goes, for example high transaction fees and low block size. But people trust to bitcoin so much, it's currently hard to beat btc. Maybe in future there will be 1 good altcoin, better than bitcoin which will gain more trust and popularity, really hard to discuss but I am optimist on bitcoin and I think it will be always as first in cryptocurrencies as google is first in search engines.
5140  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 13 BILLION BET🎁Most Popular Dice & Roulette🎁 on: August 03, 2017, 05:29:09 PM
Bitsler has become the best crypto gambling site I no longer think primedice is on top. Good work guys keep it up

I have been burning a lot of my money there and the instant deposits make it so easy haha
Bitsler is mostly dice based website but it has additional popular games also. I agree that bitsler is really popular and so much traffic makes everything clear but there are also sports betting websites and casinos so it's hard to say that bitsler is 100% N1. Proof statistic of popular websites will give us real result. Also primedice was almost first and is very popular. I think bitsler has more traffic than primedice but maybe primedice has more highrollers.
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