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5141  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net on: December 13, 2015, 01:00:12 PM
Thank you ive received all my invesment for 100days Cheesy


yes all plans over 95 days have been paid out.
As said it is afet 95 and before 100
Of course if it is 99 or 100 more dividends are paid.

Do not forget the booster...it gives you free satoshi and helps the system to give more dividends.

If you see 102% return it does not mean of 100% immobilization because all allong the plan you get return of the "principal".

I'm happy to see that my investors make profit.

Have fun.

5142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: December 13, 2015, 08:40:42 AM
I can only payout to bitcoin account of faucets
The results are very little and need much time to collect  Sad

I agree with you there; faucets are indeed a waste of time if you have some nice skill set to offer different people in exchange of btc. Needless to say, you can earn more doing real life jobs and just buy btc instead of sitting 12-15 hours a day typing captchas and pasting your address in return to a fraction of a cent. Did I mention that dust transactions also causes problems in regards with transaction fees?

Complete waste of time. These can be only interesting for people coming from countries living on less then $2 per day and these countries are not advertising focus for Faucets anyway. The rest of us need to find more solid way to make money.

it seems that for you if time is not much money time is wasted...
I have read you and have not earn money...is it waste of time?
certainly if you are right.

Have fun.

5143  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post your Total time logged into Bitcointalk on: December 12, 2015, 06:01:10 PM
Total time logged in: 21 days, 22 hours and 23 minutes.
5144  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: pas de confirmation après 22 heures on: December 12, 2015, 05:41:06 PM
ok merci
en fait comme c'est toujours confirmé dans les 2 ou trois heures,ça me convenait avec mon règlage de fees...
et là...pour une fois que j'aurais voulu que ça se confirme dans les 2 ou 3 heures...ça tarde (lol)

C'est la 2ème fois que ça arrive (12 heures par là) mais jamais aucune après 22 heures.
...Mais j'ai aussi un peu de "dust" dans ma wallet...
5145  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: pas de confirmation après 22 heures on: December 12, 2015, 05:10:59 PM
J'ai ça:

d8e8485be024faa037749085163345e765d35feb10d097dee593ebd5a9ddba50-000

https://blockchain.info/address/1HtMXznrwA9pPYf9GprGsQs4qsX85gkjwy
5146  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / pas de confirmation après 22 heures on: December 12, 2015, 05:02:58 PM
j'ai envoyé 0.02 BTC hier vers 20h30 et toujours aucune confirmation...
c'est normal?

c'est la prem's fois que ça dure si longtemps.
5147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you earn a lot of free bitcoins fast? on: December 12, 2015, 02:20:14 PM
this is how i earn bits fast. i play android base games that rewards bitcoin. got rewarded then gamble some of it.


no different than playing faucets and try to gamble with those few satoshi, not a good way to increase your bitcoin amount

the sad reality, is that only signature campaign and buying bitcoin direclty has remained as the only options without risk

do not say "only" because it is not so.

the other carry big risk, if you're talking about cloud mining, and they are not rewarding at all, you need to wait for 6-10 months to see profit

even if you sell your hash you need to was 3 months minimum, and if you do not invest big, in those 3 months you will earn less than a signature camapign which does not carry any risk...

i was going to invest in hashnest, then i changed my mind after that i saw how the difficulty can skyrocket

so it is better formulated...
5148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: December 12, 2015, 02:16:13 PM
definitely no gambling, too easy to lose.  Perhaps more conservative routes like faucets, simply purchasing, holding, or investing.

holding is definitely not growing your bitcoins.

Anyway, try saving wallets like haobtc or Magnr. Theres a new one coming up which I cant remember the name off my head, it was featured in some crypto news site
sorry sir, i think holding is also growing your bitcoin, we can say it longterm investment, im holding my bitcoin to paper wallet, and i sure it will growing in future



How can it be growing? You will still have the same amount of bitcoins after all that time. Only the fiat value of these bitcoins can be higher maybe. But the question was about growing bitcoins which means, in my opinion, to have more bitcoins than before at the end.

It's why i have programmed a system where one have more bitcoin at the end than at the start.
But what do then people here?
the do not analyse my system...they say just:PONZI.

So far my first investors have made good profit.
The next ones will do as well.
I'm not here to convince you...I'm just here to inform you.
After 100 days all is clear...one can see that I was right and my detractors wrong.
The ones who invested have more btc (satoshi) than at the start.
The non-investor have the same than at the start.

What should I do more and why?
No reason to do more:
because my fun is reached...I have programmed a system and if one person invest in it is enough
if zero person invest in it it does not matter...the few satoshi made by the system go in my poket.
No matter what happens...I have my fun.


It's not about the first investors. First investors in a ponzi or pyramid game often have more than before. It is about the last investors who will lose everything or most of their investment when the game collapses because no new investors can be found.

Next thing is, are the numbers backed at all when everyone wants to withdraw? A website can show all stats it wants, but that doesn't necessarely mean that the funds really exist.

1)...I see you publish sign campaign...are you sure that you are paid and if the funds to pay you exist?
you can not be sure...and even if you are sure it does not mean that the funds exist and even if they exist you are perhaps not paid.

Yes, because i only take part in sig campaigns where collateral funds are held by independent escrows. So even when they run i will get paid.


2)...it is not because my first  investors are paid like in ponzi sheme that it does mean that it is a ponzi seme.
The first ones are paid because (95 to 100) days are passed...

Then do you have a link where the system you mean is explained? Then i can see if it really is different from a normal ponzi.


3)...I have already said 100 or more times that the system does not need new investors to pay old ones.
Investors are always paid...and profit as well if dividends have been paid...
so far:

And where come the additional coins from?


Quote
Number of dividends after 16 september 2015: 3936

it is very unprobale that no more dividends will be paid in the future.

The system can only collapse if after 100 days no investment is done.
But then all investors have been paid before.

Fully paid so that they got their investment back? Sounds like a magic money creation machine. Early investors have more than they invested and later investors at least got their investment back? Where comes the additional money from?


4)...people do not want to wisdraw...
investors are parly paid out regularly by the system...it's made by me manually.
Why should I invent datas...i have no more or no less profit doing so.
Have you read somewhere that what was published was wrong?

I'm sure the website will show that they own a lot. And i'm sure with the coins invested you can pay out the dividends for some time. Though the question is if everyone can withdraw everything they invested plus the dividends at the same time.


5)...I publish that the "funds" about you tall are:

Quote
Investment in system = 0.0152641410

Do you really believe that 0.015BTC can not exist?
Have you at least taken the time to be able to talk about seriously or do you just talk about to show your "signature"?
It seems so sorry...

Oh, that actually is not much. I thought it must have been more invested. Doesn't look like you can profit from it at all then.

And no, i did not read about your system yet, that's why i asked about a link. I only know how hyip's and pyramid games/snowball systems work.
you can learn about here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171677.0

This system has cost me "negative trust points" and scammer name...it's why i'm hurt when one talk about in a wrong way...
5149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: December 12, 2015, 01:10:03 PM
definitely no gambling, too easy to lose.  Perhaps more conservative routes like faucets, simply purchasing, holding, or investing.

holding is definitely not growing your bitcoins.

Anyway, try saving wallets like haobtc or Magnr. Theres a new one coming up which I cant remember the name off my head, it was featured in some crypto news site
sorry sir, i think holding is also growing your bitcoin, we can say it longterm investment, im holding my bitcoin to paper wallet, and i sure it will growing in future

How can it be growing? You will still have the same amount of bitcoins after all that time. Only the fiat value of these bitcoins can be higher maybe. But the question was about growing bitcoins which means, in my opinion, to have more bitcoins than before at the end.

It's why i have programmed a system where one have more bitcoin at the end than at the start.
But what do then people here?
the do not analyse my system...they say just:PONZI.

So far my first investors have made good profit.
The next ones will do as well.
I'm not here to convince you...I'm just here to inform you.
After 100 days all is clear...one can see that I was right and my detractors wrong.
The ones who invested have more btc (satoshi) than at the start.
The non-investor have the same than at the start.

What should I do more and why?
No reason to do more:
because my fun is reached...I have programmed a system and if one person invest in it is enough
if zero person invest in it it does not matter...the few satoshi made by the system go in my poket.
No matter what happens...I have my fun.


It's not about the first investors. First investors in a ponzi or pyramid game often have more than before. It is about the last investors who will lose everything or most of their investment when the game collapses because no new investors can be found.

Next thing is, are the numbers backed at all when everyone wants to withdraw? A website can show all stats it wants, but that doesn't necessarely mean that the funds really exist.

1)...I see you publish sign campaign...are you sure that you are paid and if the funds to pay you exist?
you can not be sure...and even if you are sure it does not mean that the funds exist and even if they exist you are perhaps not paid.

2)...it is not because my first  investors are paid like in ponzi sheme that it does mean that it is a ponzi seme.
The first ones are paid because (95 to 100) days are passed...

3)...I have already said 100 or more times that the system does not need new investors to pay old ones.
Investors are always paid...and profit as well if dividends have been paid...
so far:

Quote
Number of dividends after 16 september 2015: 3936

it is very unprobale that no more dividends will be paid in the future.

The system can only collapse if after 100 days no investment is done.
But then all investors have been paid before.

4)...people do not want to wisdraw...
investors are parly paid out regularly by the system...it's made by me manually.
Why should I invent datas...i have no more or no less profit doing so.
Have you read somewhere that what was published was wrong?

5)...I publish that the "funds" about you tall are:

Quote
Investment in system = 0.0152641410

Do you really believe that 0.015BTC can not exist?
Have you at least taken the time to be able to talk about seriously or do you just talk about to show your "signature"?
It seems so sorry...






5150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you earn a lot of free bitcoins fast? on: December 12, 2015, 12:42:44 PM
this is how i earn bits fast. i play android base games that rewards bitcoin. got rewarded then gamble some of it.


no different than playing faucets and try to gamble with those few satoshi, not a good way to increase your bitcoin amount

the sad reality, is that only signature campaign and buying bitcoin direclty has remained as the only options without risk

do not say "only" because it is not so.
5151  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] Kano CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: December 12, 2015, 12:40:50 PM
almost a half a coin in fees.. nice.

what do you mean?
5152  Other / Archival / Re: Last Drink You drank. (daily thread) on: December 12, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
coffee
5153  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] Kano CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: December 12, 2015, 12:27:29 PM
yes I have just noticed it.
5154  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you today?(Daily Thread) on: December 12, 2015, 12:23:30 PM
I'm fine ...thanks.
5155  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: December 12, 2015, 12:18:46 PM
yessss 10000 satoshi or so from faucets.
5156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you earn a lot of free bitcoins fast? on: December 12, 2015, 11:55:32 AM
The problem is fast and a lot...

I do not like to much the too easy systems...often scam.
5157  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN]Claiming for free - investment - comining on: December 12, 2015, 11:52:00 AM
283381 satoshi have been offered to buy shares.

34758 satoshi are claimed for free by an investor.

it's your tool...I cannot do more...
have fun.
5158  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net on: December 12, 2015, 10:45:33 AM
if it comes up to 90days without an investment, you should make a post here and somebody could invest and keep the site up.

it's only an information...it is very low probability that it happens.
The profit will be so interesting that "old" investors will invest.

Of course I will talk regularely here  that it can happen.

1mBTC is enough to hold the system alive (alife?)

No problem before 60 days or so...

BZW...investors can now claim for free 247 satoshi
This can increase and so attract more investors.

I recall that my system can only collapse after all payout and not before like ponzi.



5159  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: 100 days plan - bitcoin.winspiral.net on: December 12, 2015, 10:06:26 AM
and a new definitive payout just now.
next payout soon...in the meantime the profit will till grows a little.

You can make yourself a good opinion by visiting the graphic pages.
You can see that the dividend rate is at the top.
Rate is not cash...but a good rate helps to earn more if dividends are possible.
The 4 graphic pages are very useful to analyse the situation.

But winspiral's opportunities are not eternal...(lol)
If during 100 days "zero" investment...then all investors have been paid...ok...but the investment game will then be closed.
No need to manage a site where noboddy is interested to earn cash.

You can then thank to all my detractors...(lol)
have fun.
5160  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: winspiral's other faucet [1 satoshi][+5000 satshi activity bonus] on: December 12, 2015, 09:16:02 AM
Quote
So far 2577 potential bonus winners (bonus = activity bonus + referrer bonus)
So far 1933500 satoshi won with the bonus

So easy to claim how much you want claiming...
ok...2500 satoshi per claim is not so easy...but a little less is possible if you want it.
Have fun.

Edition
Quote
So far 2591 potential bonus winners (bonus = activity bonus + referrer bonus)
So far 1943500 satoshi won with the bonus
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