 More bonds coming soon! |
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--> Asking 17.7 BTC per underlying bond! Whoops hehe. This has been since fixed. On the other score: there are a couple people working on bots for it atm. A first step would be something like $echo "STAT" | gpg --clearsign | gpg --encrypt --armor -r F1B69921 especially if you have gpg-agent running. You could conceivably turn that into a bash script taking a parameter, too. Note that there's absolutely no need to enter the order manually, you can just POST to the script (use curl or whatever you prefer). PS. The first link in your sig doesn't work anymore. |
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One month after opening the beta it's my great pleasure to announce that MPEx has left the paper-and-monopoly-money phase and is now live, churning away bitcoins and assets. So why do you want to use it? Reason #1. 0.2% sell side fee, no buy side fee. Reason #1.1. You can slash that even further if you qualify for Market Maker. Ask mircea_popescu (#bitcoin-otc-eu on freenode) for details. Reason #2. Free PUSH of assets. That's right, you want to move stocks around and you know your counterparty's fingerprint go right ahead. We charge you for the matchmaking we do, but we don't charge you for the matchmaking you do yourself. Reason #3. Huge market depths. We're talking thousands of BTC. Reason #4. Security. Seriously. Reason #5. Uptime. We're also looking for solid companies to launch IPOs, talk to the same mircea_popescu. And here's to a happy 2012, the year of Bitcoin. |
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I like deathandtaxes' answer.
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This is an oddity in the way GLBSE displays volume (which IMHO is
useless). TBH I have a lot of trouble understanding the stats there, so maybe I just misunderstand. |
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I'd advise you to think strategically, if we want Bitcoin to set its roots deep across the world, then it needs to grow and sustain itself for as long as possible before the dark statist forces attack it. The best way to ensure this, is for those companies which are more visible in Bitcoinland to "play it safe" and "follow the rules." It keeps the heat off, and allows Bitcoin to get stronger and stronger. Very good points, sir |
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I believe the onus is on you to back up your claim You are thinking in terms of collaborative research, which indeed works in the way you describe. We are not however having a competition to establish the truth here. A company made some determinations and explained its reasoning. The later part was not either necessary or common, but since this happens to be a pretty open company it tends to do that sort of thing. Whether you are persuaded or not by this is irrelevant, given the economical asymmetry: they have money riding on the correctness of their determinations, you do not. Seeing how research in general costs money, your position on the matter is dubious: sure, you may be unconvinced, but no, there's no "onus" in this context. Otherwise, time, by which we mean of course the market, will tell.
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I thought so too, but I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Haha original research is a crime now? Sad times. (Do you have what to cite to prove the contrary, incidentally?) |
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You flaw is you assume just having a cover means you will have the "tip of the cone" while other services without a cover won't. Wouldn't you say at the very least this is a novel concept worth giving a try? I don't think anyone is saying this is necessarily so, I think what's being said is that it may well be so. Sure, pecunia non olet and all that, but at the end of the day if you have two bakeries down the street do you want them both to be Panera? Anyway, you keep talking about liquidity but for some reason you don't seem to notice that glbse has absolutely no liquidity to begin with. 4@0.6, 9@0.1024 and 1@0.99999999 plus twenty bucks buys you a restaurant meal, and these are the top three right now. So in the end what are we talking about, you really think it's a big deal to beat 5 btc "liquidity"? At any rate, just passed 50 registered members which I think renders the point moot. Unless you want to tell me there's literally thousands of people trading on glbse there seems to be very little significant difference. Citation needed. I think this would be original research. |
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no cover bar tends to have more participants which is the only thing I really care about in this analogy. I'll recycle an irc discussion, seeing how most people here don't irc: Apr 08 17:38:46 <mircea_popescu> the thing with bitcoins is that they are not the very flat cone USD is. in BTC, you have a very cash rich top, and then nothing, and then a piddly base of ppl with 5-10 btc and less. Apr 08 17:38:59 <mircea_popescu> here you want to cater to the top not to the base, exactly opposite of usd, where consumer rules. Apr 08 17:39:22 <BohemianHacks> HEY Apr 08 17:39:30 <BohemianHacks> I am proud of my <5 BTC! Apr 08 17:39:39 <mircea_popescu> so no, having your assets with someone well known and respected is WAY more important than having access to 10`000 consumers fresh off bitcoinfaucet Apr 08 17:40:01 <mircea_popescu> BohemianHacks and that's all nice and fine, but business is business and there's no hearts there. Apr 08 17:40:20 <Blitzboom> mircea_popescu: there is ♥ Apr 08 17:40:21 <BohemianHacks> I know Apr 08 17:41:14 <JWU42> mircea_popescu: when you frame things in the "pointy cone" - understand better when you are coming from... Apr 08 17:41:30 <mircea_popescu> JWU42 its not even a pointy cone, it's a water tower. Apr 08 17:41:47 <JWU42> Inverted Eiffel tower? Apr 08 17:42:19 <mircea_popescu> http://www.dmhs.org/map-photos/images/water_tower_new.jpg exact thing i mean JWU42 Apr 08 17:43:17 <JWU42> mircea_popescu: heh - yep. I know them - we sell the steel that makes them  Apr 08 17:43:22 <mircea_popescu> haha cool. Apr 08 17:43:37 <mircea_popescu> so yea, what matters most is remaining credible to the top. Apr 08 17:43:50 <mircea_popescu> the access to the base... it hurts nothing, but it's not worth sacrificing anything for. Apr 08 17:43:52 <JWU42> yeah - so scale matters is my lesson Apr 08 17:44:09 <mircea_popescu> at least that's my understanding, which obviously could be flat out wrong. Sorry the link that was provided looks so amateurish. Amateurish, sorta like pgp.mit.edu for instance? Maybe it's worth taking a moment to consider who the real amateurs are, on the interwebz. |
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I agree with Meni. I will be more than happy to pay the normal fee on the pre-sale transfers. As a significant shareholder, Mr. Popescu would prefer you skip the glbse listing altogether, never deliver any shares there and just keep spreadsheets. You have probably a couple dozen people invested, how hard can it be to make a couple dozen payments once a month? Surely less hassle than dealing with this sort of thing on a continuing basis. |
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You can't kill the OTC market, and it's disappointing to even see you try. This. You people are killing yourselves, and I'm not saying this because MPEx will eat your lunch: it will anyway, with this or without this most recent clusterfuck. I'm saying this because MtGox yielded, and who the fuck do you take yourselves for, with your piddly coupla k's volume a month? Jesus. |
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Yeah got no interest then. Even if it is free for me I doubt anyone is paying the $100 which makes it worthless. Your judgment is flawed in the same way as saying "if this club charges a cover I've got no interest, there won't be any hot chicks there". Experience shows that it is usually the no-cover clubs that sport the sausage fests. |
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lol rediculous glbse is much better In what way? |
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Wait a $100 registration fee? Really? Yes. Currently waived, but if you fail to take advantage now you will have to pay 20 BTC to be allowed to trade later. |
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Any marketmakers (ie, people willing to commit to a fixed monthly trade volume) can negotiate lower rates based on their volume. Hit Mircea Popescu up on #bitcoin-otc and cut yourself a deal.
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MPEx, the up and coming GPG based stock exchange is slated to hopefully come out of beta later this month. This means that the time to play around with paper money and virtual stocks is running short --and it also means that the current waiver of the 20 BTC new account registration fee is soon to expire --so take advantage now! It also means a killer line-up of high-value, respected and respectable businesses will be offering shares, so get your investor boots ready and caps handy for an April that won't be soon forgot. (And if you're the proud owner of just such a business, we certainly want to hear from you --bear in mind that a high OTC rating is required however.) See you soon in the pits!
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As you know, March IPO (1mn shares offered) closed 90.850079910 BTC total investment. April IPO (4mn shares offered) runs until April the 6th (~48 hours left). Currently 97.35175995 BTC subscribed, thus trading at ~73.3% discount so far. Read all about MPOE and the IPOs and get yours! |
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GLBSE2.0 is nothing close to solid. All you need now to get access to someone’s account is their e-mail address and password. That is it!
Nefario himself understand how risky this is and claims he will take no responsibility. I understand that point of view and I am going to make it very clear that I also take no responsibility! That's why you have MPEX. Probably out of beta this month. |
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