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5141  Economy / Economics / Re: China banning bitcoin exchages, good or bad? on: September 17, 2017, 05:32:41 PM
As it seems china plays biggest role in bitcoin price, their one word changed price a lot in 2 day as we see. It's now growing a little but don't have hope it will continue in near future. If china's this move will affect bitcoin again so much, it won't be safe to my mind. Many bad and big guy in economic industry will move bitcoin as they want, it will become absolutely random profit source for big players. It's my mind.. On another hand a little fall will be good to buy bitcoin and hold for long term profit.
We mustn't let them to affect bitcoin's price like toy.
5142  Economy / Marketplace / Re: China Down Price Down vs Valve Perfect World on: September 17, 2017, 02:53:35 PM
Just a small question
What was a chance to close almost all China based exchanges ( i mean closed fully or stop to trade fiat/crypto) and drop price about 1,000$ in 2 days
and in same time VALVE launch CS:GO for perfect world.

P.S
Can someone provide here small graph with amount of bitcoin payments on STEAM?


I couldn't imagine if china was going to ban bitcoin exchanges, from my side there was no chanse for that but as we see it's happening. But there was a high chanse of dropping prise because it rised very quickly and much. Perfect World has introduced its version of cs:go to china as we know but I think it don't has to do anything to bitcoin prise, release dates makes doubts for some people, not for me.
5143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin @4500$!!!! on: September 17, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
Btc was 4500$ about 1week sgo. But JP Morgan said it is fraud. Then it came to 3000$. Now it is 3600-3700$.

I think it will go avobe 4000$ at the end of this month. What's your opinion?
 Wink
Can't think the same. Also china bans bitcoin exchanges and it's clear for everyone how much power do they have. Once okcoin stopped withdrawal and price started drop immediately and now as I know many of them will close, Viabtc also.. So I think it will fall much, people will sell them in lower price to get money as soon as possible..
Hard to predict anything now but I think price won't go higher. Why the hell did china decide to ban bitcoin exchanges? Everything was so good.. Now I don't like situation.
5144  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTCBET.CC – Bitcoin price BETTING every 5 minute on: September 14, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Seems now it's very bad time for you guys, almost everytime price falls.. So who bets on fall will win but that doesn't matter.
Not a good but normal template, I think you have to change it a little for worldwide customers (maybe that fits russian templates style but something simple, nice and fast will be good). Change logo also with better one.
Don't know if such type of gambling is still popular but you need to promote your service..
5145  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is this Cloud Mining site a scam? on: September 14, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
Seems this people still can't learn on thing: Learn on mistakes. Who will offer you guaranteed monthly profit for lifetime with just one investment. Than everyone would sell house and sit and wait how they will become millionares. Forget man, you have to earn money by work in real life or from good chanel on youtube, adsense, affiliate and etc. No easy money, it doesn't exist. I think there must be pinned one thread about that because still many people make mistake. I think everyone would know Hashocean's exit scam, it's best example of no real cloud mining with gret profit. If you still want cloud mining, choose one which is very old (like hashnest) and you have ability to sell your hashrates and get btc back at any time.
5146  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ✰ [ANN] BITMIXCOIN.IO ✰ High Volume Bitcoin Mixer ✰ BTC IN ESCROW on: September 14, 2017, 06:16:10 PM
Too many similarities between you and Bitmixer that recently shut down.

I'm not accusing you of being a scammer at all. I respect the fact that you are trying to prove that you are legit by depositing 10 BTC into a trusted escrow - at least it proves that you are not just a cheap scammer.

However, everything seems to be the same between you and bit mixer. Same sort of logo(i know it's temporary), similar name(all in caps as well), same discription on your site, the tabs are all the same as well. What exactly is your relationship with bit mixer?

I think bitmixer did some mistakes that could expose his real identity, that being said....

No further comment.  Wink

Lol okay, it's your right and i'm not going to force you to answer my questions.

I would suggest to shy away from association both in name and on your site with Bitmixer, though. That could potentially be suspect to certain people and make them go to another mixer service. Right now, the whole site looks like a complete clone of bit mixer, apart from the fact that colors were changed.

Also you have to think up some things to make your brand more appealing. currently, chipmixer offers 0 fee mixing Wink
Don't want to be rude but your action seems like promoting chipmixer over bitmixcoin. Currently we can't say they are scammers because as we see they used escrow. I don't like when mixers try to have similar name of bitmixer but maybe that's because of promotion (still don't like this). Let's see what future will show us, as they say they are going to escrow 10, 50, 100 and 500 bitcoin. And if they prove that they own 2000 btc reserve, sorry but I think you have don't have to say bad about them without real proofs. Every bitcoin service can to turn into scam, even Bitmain scammed sometimes and problems were only solved after scam accusations.
5147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC is dead. The plan is a shift to Bitcoin Cash. on: September 14, 2017, 05:46:05 PM
BTC may not recover, but instead money will flow back to the superior, original bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash. Buy bitcoins now for under $400 again! Watch for the BCC related conference coming up this week. Huge things ahead! Don't be in the dark on these developments!
Why won't it recover? Who knows that? I think it will recover and especially when halving will come. Bitcoin is very popular and you know that, this price fall doesn't means a lot if it will stop soon. These shit panics in people, it's all making situation worse. Also as it was mentioned by bryant.coleman, bitcoin cash's exchange rate is down by close to 30%. Wait and see what will happen..
5148  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin - time to buy or sell? on: September 14, 2017, 05:09:58 PM
With Bitcoin falling so much this week/month, do you think it's a great opportunity to buy in or time to cash out?
Despite the fact that I have much bitcoin now, I wouldn't sell them because I have hope of higher price. As it seems good time for sell was when bitcoin was more than 4000$, not it's falling and I think it will fall still, I would wait 1 week, price will be lower and I think that will be great time to buy bitcoins and wait future rise, it's will be a good time for holders.
5149  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: I am Planning to make my own Exchange on: September 14, 2017, 04:47:52 PM
Thanks for your replys!  Cheesy

Perhaps in a few years I might make my own exchange.
We will see  Smiley

But I definitley will make my own soon.


What about making an exchange just for my coin?
I made my own coin, and I would like to make a crypto exchange, but just for my coin to be traded with btc, eth and ltc
When you make exchange you have to know all rules and it's better for you to find them local, not on this forum because maybe someone can't say everything truth. So after that you need a great team and money, exchange website has to have very high security.
Well, it's not easy and it's not a job which can be done by questions and answers on forum. You need good marketing, security and money. Also if you want your coin to be exchanged on btc, who will use that? If not only you?
5150  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2000 would still be a lot for 1 btc on: September 14, 2017, 03:35:07 PM
For myself 2000$ is not too bad, but if it is dropping too low I afraid people will find another coin, because it had already reach 5000$ and if the price able to hit back 2000$ it's mean something is wrong with Bitcoin and the investors will lost the trust and interest
But I don't think Bitcoin could reach 2000$, the china banning had caused the price to fall down but a lot of people also looking for this opportunity to buy more, I think in this end of the month the price will be back to 4000$
If bitcoin price will fall to 2000$ this will really cause worst situation, I think it will be a great chanse for altcoins to become more popular than they are. This panic also makes everything worse, people try to sell and sell bitcoin and price falls day to day.
China has good control on crypto, hope people will soon hang on their words and price will rise again.
5151  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 LOTTERY 🎁15 BILLION BETS🎁 on: September 14, 2017, 01:03:56 PM
I go on bitsler today and notice im banned for an entire year for what reason I hardly have used the site in weeks what is going on?

Never mind I just left my vpn on works when I disable it

It looks like they are trying to remove all those multiple accounts created on same IP addresses. If you don't have funds in that account then no need to worry but before creating a new account from same IP address you better check with admin otherwise you may face the same issue again. OR you may need to use one dedicated proxy IP for the new account.

Problems with all these players using VPN getting banned is that most of them all use the exact same VPN. There aren't that many VPN that accept bitcoin (probably due to abuse) and those that accept most require some form of personal info.

The ones that don't or avoid that info are the ones that are commonly used on the bitcoin websites. So what usually happens is someone tries some hack, and it ends up getting the entire subnet banned pretty much.
It's said in rules: Don't create more than 2 account. Maybe you didn't create more but you use ip adress which has more than 2 account, this is against rules so accounts under 1 ip will be banned/closed. If you still want to hide your ip, it's better to try dedicated proxy, in this situation problem will be solved. Also for example if 5 people is using pc in your home and everyone wants bitsler with their own account under 1 ip, you have to contact Baryom.
Bitsler won't ban your accounts without reasons, believe me..
5152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bought my first BTC @ $4600, slightly worried on: September 13, 2017, 09:42:42 PM
I personally suggest you OP to not sell your bitcoins. Imagine you bought them on 4600$ and now if you sell them, you will see a huge loss. This fall doesn't means it will fall forever, it's even normal because if coin rises it was to fall sometimes. Finally it will rise, it's only time of wait, if you hold them and wait even for year if situation will require it, you will see profit.
Depends on how you can to wait.. Welcome to crypto world..
5153  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Wallets and Coins on: September 13, 2017, 08:54:35 PM
We have a new project that provides Wallet for cryptocurrency, but we are not sure whether users will need multiple Wallets to manage their coins, that's why I am starting this poll, please help~ Smiley

Of course one wallet with many features like holding much coins is a good idea but depends on how secure it will be (you may know what software needs bug checks and etc). But will that wallet be online or offline? Because there was one online wallet bit.ac and people don't liked their service + they weren't able to become popular despite the fact that they tried their best in promoting. Gaining trust will be hardest moment, so if you have money and team for that, then it will be good.
5154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Which online wallet is good for LTC? on: September 13, 2017, 08:08:40 PM
Can someone tell me where i should keep my LTC? Like which online wallet is good and safe.
You should keep your litecoin in offline wallet for more security but since you are looking for online wallet, you can use coinbase for that (you can receive and sell litecoin here) or if you want try litevault.net as something similar of offline wallets. As far as I know people here were using it and don't had problems (personally I amn't fan of ltc).
5155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoins actual price is $2700 on: September 13, 2017, 07:36:51 PM
True. It is a good time to take advantage of Bitcoins low price. It might not ever get this low again. I think those who really believe will buy now in the masses. I doubt the price will drop too much. I had a good feeling things just getting ready to heat up and become very serious. It is annoying that the price went down but let us make the best of a bad situation.
I think there is a mass panic in people and everyone tries to sell it until it will be late. Still this loss don't means any big thing because there was similar situations and price was high again very quickly. I'll look situation still some days and will think what to do.. But situation goes like price will fall and if this will happen, I think fall will be like OP mentioned between 2500-3000 (not actually 2700 to my mind).
5156  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: What can police do if you get scammed? on: September 13, 2017, 07:16:37 PM
You had already opened thread here in Bitcoin Discussion section and you already got real answers, can't understand why did you decide to open the same thread here? Do you think that answer will be different and people will say fake yes?
No man, you or your friend can't get money back and that's all. Police didn't caugh cloud mining scammers who went away with much bitcoins (more than 1000btc) and who will take care for your 0.01btc?
Forget that, you lost it and that's all, learn on mistake and don't open useless threads here.
5157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 13, 2017, 06:34:01 PM
Smart gambling sets daily goals to play. when to stop and go back to play. usually people who have set a daily target less often lose than those who only play to get a profit. because they are greedy to be able to get more things

I think it's better not to set a daily goal, but rather to set daily limits that you can afford to lose. The goal may not be achieved and this will lead to loss.

Smart ways to play the point is we can control ourselves, that's very nice. also have realistic targets, e.g. make 10-30% of your capital, and it's not too hard to do, rather than you try greedy but ultimately always lose.
 
oh, do like you said, think about 10% of capital and you'll see how you end. Even if you think about 1% and first shoot won't be successful, this means you will lose. There is only smart way to get rid of loss and that's not to gamble but let's think about word gamble, it don't means to lose everything, it means to have fun and enjoy what you do. So playing with some dollars won't affect you and you don't have to think about profit, you have to enjoy process and have fun.
5158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Feeling good about the dip / down on: September 13, 2017, 05:09:45 PM
if it goes parabolic for too long, then I feel it makes take longer to recover in the longer term after the correction. This kind of dip or down, makes me think we have not see an all time high yet, and that the price has a higher floor.
I see that perspective for but this time waa very bad for me since I was going to sell now for some reasons but really don't know what to do. Maybe I have to hold it for some years and don't use that saved money for my needs. Don't like this fall but it seems like you said we will see a big high again but I am afraid it won't happen in near future, it will be after next halving and will reach more than 10 000$, I believe this.
5159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Is Falling Down? on: September 13, 2017, 01:41:12 PM
I'm feeling so sad if bitcoin is falling down
China is influential countries with the world economy
but.. I don't think so
in my opinion, China impossible be banning the operation of Bitcoin exchanges all over the country

I'm feeling so sad if bitcoin is falling down
China is influential countries with the world economy
but.. I don't think so
in my opinion, China impossible be banning the operation of Bitcoin exchanges all over the country

Ya true. Bitcoin price is now of 3800$ ,so the price is keep on decreased in passed two days. So it is very sad to see this. Even I had inverse in bitcoin. So I am waiting for the value reach again the peak .If so I will sell the bitcoin. or else wait.
It's really very bad time now, I have 0.5 bitcoin to sell, it's not much but I was looking for a good time, I was out and missed a chanse to sell it when price was nearly 4400$, than started fall and I had hope of rise again but seems I now I have to lose some houndred dollars. Don't know still wait for a little high price or sell it until it's not late.
5160  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: ✰ [ANN] BITMIXCOIN.IO ✰ High Volume Bitcoin Mixer ✰ BTC IN ESCROW on: September 13, 2017, 09:28:43 AM
People who are interested in using mixers usually put large amounts, so assuming that you actually have 2000 BTC in stock, why not put more in escrow because 10 BTC as insurance are really nothing much?

Since there are a lot of competitors, we assume that people will test our services with small amounts. as soon as we gain more trust, we will put 100 (within 2 months).

and for the record, this "escrow" is not free, we're paying % for this service.  
Wow, great logo, liked logo very much.
So now what's about mixer, can you show us signed message from adresses where you have reserve of 2000 coins? Do this like cryptomixer did it once, they show it to reputable members here. It's better than holding 10 btc in escrow. Also as you said you are going to escrow 100 btc in near future, suggest you to do this on some person, not on one and choose very reputables.
Show reserves to some DT members here and ask them to sign message and confirm that you really hold 2000btc, this will be fair, do this..
Wish you success..

We do not need to public our address with 2000+ BTC. once we reach the 10 BTC limit, we will put 100+ BTC in escrow and we will continue to do so until we reach our 2000+ BTC stock.

No one from the current bitcoin mixers providers did the same, we simply guarantee that no one will be scammed, our stock and especially BTC address is our own business especially we do not want to be exposed to hackers. thank you.

However...
You can try to mix 10BTC, after we will mix them for you, we put 100BTC in escrow, you can mix them too, and after 100BTC we will place 500BTC in escrow.

No man, as I said Cryptomixer did this, they prove their reserves by signing messages from their adresses where they had 2000 btc.
Here is link and see this thread carefully: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484009.msg15262587#msg15262587
I don't say you are scammer, seems this is your way to prove your trust but escrowing so regularly won't be cheap for you and especially escrowing of 500btc is very hard task, that's big money.
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