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5181  Other / Meta / Re: generalt account hacked on: October 13, 2017, 06:29:29 PM
Would've been nice but I just did a forum search for the address and nothing came up.  Thanks for the idea though.
Here:
1GSWemBs3EE9v63yxzyXYa1CQ7tnoCvLwh: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159185.msg12212041#msg12212041

That's the only one that I managed to find.
5182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥[GUNBOT] Automatic Poloniex Profit Generator🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 on: October 13, 2017, 04:28:28 PM
Is there anywhere a bigger discount than 10% for gunbot?
No. Reselling with a higher discount than 10% is not allowed.
5183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥[GUNBOT] Automatic Poloniex Profit Generator🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 on: October 13, 2017, 04:19:23 PM
Whats better version of gunbot poloniex or bittrex?
That's primarily dependent on your own preference. I'd recommend Bittrex due to the issues that Poloniex has had over the past few months.
5184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 03:34:19 PM
I'm wondering whether or not you realize that Bitcoin per the core roadmap isn't even going to be peer to peer money any more , by design?

I'm also wondering whether you realize that the 'computer fraud' accusations are trolling/politiking?  No one has been defrauded. 
And you claimed to be a computer scientist...you dont even know how to make Bitcoin mainstream while keeping the Bitcoin chain decentralised and secure as possible Undecided
Jonald is literally a paid baboon, and you can verify this by his past timeline as well as fake medium posts and similar. His "opinions" can't be taken seriously. The statement that is quoted here is also fake, by design.

Realy, do you even know what blockchain is and how much potential it got? You cannot and will not move all those financial traffic into 1 block..even Roger knows that.
Coffee purchases on chain are a no brainer, they should not be there if we have to sacrifice intrinsic values for them to be there. Anyone claiming otherwise is a baboon or paid agent trying to disrupt Bitcoin (see NSA Operation Orchestra).
5185  Other / Meta / Re: generalt account hacked on: October 13, 2017, 03:31:22 PM
You need to sign a message from a staked address posted from that account otherwise this thread/report is useless.
5186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥[GUNBOT] Automatic Poloniex Profit Generator🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 on: October 13, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
Hello. I wanna get gunbot. Whats the best way to do it?
1) Buy new but for high price
2) Buy used on marketplace for low price
3) Use hacked version for free
1) Quickest and most effective method. You can PM, e.g. me, and finish this within a few hours at most.
2) Can be slow, requires escrow and Gunthar verification.
3) Do you want to deliberately lose your money? A hacked version of Gunbot is likely to be under fully control from a third party, if not carry different malware or rootkits with it.
5187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 01:54:41 PM
With any section of your list core has lost more and more support - and pls add the NYA list. Could you see now where the issue might be?
The actual users, and with this I mean excluding shills hired by Ver, Jihan, NSA and similar, are in a supermajority support of Bitcoin Core and they are not going anywhere. The baboon-like educated suits can piss off.  Roll Eyes
5188  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 01:47:00 PM
Nope, a very small minority that thought big blocks were important, yet were proven wrong by their failed shitcoin called Bcash, are rooting for Segwit2x.
It's always the same with those rats..r/btc bigblockers are all rats. They jump from a sinking ship to another sinking ship.
I find it both funny, and as you put it, pathetic when they mention something like a "dev team" (a person did this a few posts back). There is no development team for Bcash, and there is no development team for Bitcoin2x. They are just copy/pasting Core's work, sometimes even stealing it by removing copyright. Of course /r/btc condones the latter behavior.
5189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 01:22:16 PM
Bitmex:
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It is our understanding that the SegWit2x proposal does not include two way transaction replay protection, enabled by default. Therefore BitMEX will not be able to support SegWit2x.
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BitMEX considers any and all contentious hardfork tokens as altcoins. The .BXBT and .BXBTJPY indices will remain unchanged and will not include B2X.
https://blog.bitmex.com/policy-on-bitcoin-hard-forks-update/

Smiley
5190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 11:10:49 AM
First of, why are you making assumptions and statements when you clearly are not informed/educated about most of these issues? Signature spam?

What kind of act to alter existing rules?
1 MB block size limit, or 4 MB maximum with Segwit is a existing consensus rule. Any hard fork = change to the existing rules.

What kind of disruptive and damaging?
1) No viable replay protection.
2) Falsely labeling itself as Bitcoin, when 2x is an altcoin.
3) Damage caused by a combination of 1 and 2.

As I know, btc1 nodes has been added to the main GitHub and everyone could test it.
"Main GitHub"? No.

Look at their support: over 92% https://coin.dance/blocks
Wrong. Those are miners signalling support in their Coinbase. If you look at miners as community members, they and all the other support that 2x might have doesn't even come down to 5%.

As long as core developers and 2x devs follow the consensus, it's fine I guess.
The Core developers absolutely, unanimously (unless I've missed someone's statement), reject the cancer that is 2x.

"Consensus and support of 2x":
https://twitter.com/BitcoinErrorLog/status/918676222200102913
5191  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 10:10:32 AM
Marked this one, franky1 was right.
No, franky1 is wrong as usual.

I'm a core developers fan, like 1Mb blocksize and segwit implementation even though most platforms/wallets still not support it.
The 1 MB block size limit was put in place, and is in place for a reason. SegWit is a much better way of doing transactions, and if you have complains about "congestion" or "fees" blame those advertising a block size increasing but lacking SW support on their platform.

But, it's true about core developers were the one who push the limit by reject btc1 nodes, taken some precautions steps to ensure 2x become another altcoin, it's against the rule of consensus, right?
Wrong. Contentious attempt to alter existing rules -> you're an altcoin by default. Core does not dictate what is or isn't Bitcoin, and their client banning or not banning some bits does not determine anything either. BTC1 nodes are parasites that will create a very disruptive and damaging network. I've banned all known IPs, but now they've started to cover up that they are actually btc1 nodes by appearing to be the reference client. Garzik is a corrupt and shady individual that can't be trusted anymore.
5192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 07:54:27 AM
I'm partial to the idea that miners are part of the community, and I think that some of the major miners (like Bitfury, F2Pool) are fairly in touch with the userbase and are apparently concerned about what they want.
DooMAD is acting like a individual of justice, but he's just being an idiot with his fallacies. He made a very bad generalization about the miners when responding to me. Bitfury, F2Pool and Slush are some of the nice ones that I could list now. The F2Pool owner tends to troll for comedy, and Slush has very nice voting implements and very healthy views about Bitcoin.

I don't feel the same sense of community from miners like Bitmain. Jihan Wu spends his time/energy attacking Core and pumping Bitcoin Cash -- the next batch of miners is only payable in Bitcoin Cash. What's that about?
BTC.TOP, also known as Bitmain proxy, threatened to undercut the F2Pool owner unless he continues to support 2x. Then DooMAD comes in and claims they are "supposedly" evil, according to me. What a joke. Don't even get me started on the "Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin" propaganda from Roger and Jihan.

Buying mining equipment is supposed to be a way to invest in BTC while supporting the network; it shouldn't be an avenue to get people to prop up the BCH price for Bitmain.
Mining centralization is extremely dangerous, and we've observed this in 2017. I can't wait for the day that Russia and that Japan GMO obliterates Jihan.


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If a select group of CEOs and investors, no matter how benevolent their intentions, can unilaterally make decisions about the consensus rules without public comment and force these changes upon the network regardless of overall consensus, then Bitcoin will have lost the properties that make it valuable in the first place.
https://medium.com/@seoulbitcoin/statement-on-segwit2x-161db1ad1976
5193  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 07:43:01 AM
Alright, I used to give you the benefit of the doubt even though others were insisting that I do not in the past. I was mistaken about you. Please leave this thread in peace now, thanks. Even monkeys have managed to develop better methods and practices than libtards did. Roll Eyes

If you are from the UK, then I'm less surprised by your behavior though. Disclaimer: You've posted no arguments other than "you're wrong, and "we" i.e. I think I'm right". Unless you're also on a payroll, wake up already.

Jihan has been paying for anti-Segwit propaganda in China a few months ago.
5194  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 07:36:51 AM
Go away already.
Yawn - this I accept and seems all big ones and many others have followed this lonesome advice much earlier.
Nope, a very small minority that thought big blocks were important, yet were proven wrong by their failed shitcoin called Bcash, are rooting for Segwit2x. Anyone sensible, educated, and non-greedy && malicious is staying with the one, true, Bitcoin. Keep drinking your kool-aid, paid baboon. Roll Eyes
5195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 07:00:52 AM
Why should this "power" include telling other people what software they can or can't run?  If users could do that (and I'm glad they can't) THEN the system has failed.  Users will always have the freedom to decide which chain they wish to transact on.  Why isn't that enough for you?  Why do you want to dictate terms to people who don't owe you a damn thing?
The same reason for which the corporate baboons, i.e. attackers attempt to hijack the name Bitcoin for their own terms. Users with actual knowledge about the system, should educate and spread the use of Bitcoin clients not "cancer altcoin disguised as Bitcoin" clients. Smiley

Your use of the word "listening" here distinctly implies not just "hearing" what the community and developers are saying, but also "obeying".  Hence slave.  They listened.  They just didn't agree.  
The latter is a lie and you are being fed kool-aid. Pretty much anyone who understands Segwit, which does not include Ver, Jihan, Wright, Oliver, Thomas, etc., embraces Segwit. Jihan has been paying for anti-Segwit propaganda in China a few months ago. Wake up.

And you'll still, most likely, be complaining about how terrible they all supposedly are, despite the fact there's nothing you can do to prevent their involvement.  
"Supposedly" is the wrong wording unless you're delusional. Bonus: That's a false generalization fallacy right there.

And even if you could prevent their involvement, you'd have to sacrifice one of Bitcoin's primary tenets of permisionlessness in order to do so.  It's far simpler just to let them get on with whatever the hell they want to do.  You can still run whatever code you want.  Beyond that, you're as impotent as everyone else.
False. You can fork away the current miners.

Until 5 minutes pass and they find another boogeyman to plead for someone in authority to "save" us from.  
It was fine until we got Anderesen'd, Hearnia'd. Now only two people are left in the way of a peaceful Bitcoin.

Quite a lot of people are morons in that regard.  It's all getting a bit too overprotective and interfering lately.  Like people who whine about forks having the name "Bitcoin" in them because it might confuse people, or those who would gladly prefer to restrict freedom in the name of supposed security.  Hardly the cypherpunk values Bitcoin was founded upon.
Alright; you need to be an idiot to stand by (or even condone) while malicious actors deceive individuals, cause damage to said individuals, and then proceed label people who fights against such malevolent action non cypherpunk. Then again, Ver has an army of shills in his company. You never know who you're talking to. Roll Eyes

I'm not here saying any "side" has any kind of moral high ground.  Both have done stupid, petty crap.
No. Bitcoin Core, as a group of independent individuals has done nothing wrong. Yet Garzik, Ver, Jihan keep attacking them and condoning attacks on them.

So going forward, we need to stop having "sides".  
Wrong. We need the idiots out of the way. They can fork into an altcoin, without stealing the name Bitcoin and we'd be much better off.

Freedom of choice
Go away already.
5196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 06:30:23 AM
This is exactly what happen when bitcoin was about to be fork. So many threatening information from people that claim to know about segwit with blockchain terminologies that got an ordinary person that do not have indept knowledge about blockchain confused. Those information causes panic but I think no matter what some people that sounds like expertise say the masses will not be afraid this time. I do not see any cause for war.
Classic signature spam with zero value. Go spam in some other place.
5197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #NO2X - JOIN THE WAR! on: October 13, 2017, 05:24:10 AM
What might help is if people stopped putting this bizarre invisible barrier between miners and "the community".  Why aren't miners part of the community?  
There's nothing wrong with pointing on the current situation, which is that most miners don't represent the community. However, the problem is mainly due to most miners = Jihad Wu.

Why are they always this separate entity who supposedly has to follow obediently and silently?  
Because the most *power* in Bitcoin have the users, otherwise the system has failed.

It's baffling that most of the people here simultaneously bitch about miners having too much power, whilst in the same breath trying to relegate them to slave status.
Listening to the community and developers has nothing to do with being a slave.

Everyone wants to rely on their hashpower, but no one wants them to have any freedom.  It's unrealistic.
Wrong. Quite a lot of people would be extremely satisfied if Jihan completely left.

I think, if we're genuinely going to be a community, we need to drop this ridiculous "us and them" mentality.  
You haven't been reading the other "side" lately, have you? Stop preaching bs.

You just cannot admit that you've not the same strong position than others with more skin in the game than littly you. So it is very easy to rant against these but not very clever to do in public and let many show how rotten your charachter is deep inside. You do not provide / support any good solution for keeping the community together for many years now. Now we can all see what issues we got with that splitting.
How much "skin" someone has in the game has absolutely nothing to do with whether they're evil or not. With the case of Roger Ver and Jihan, both have become so malicious that is it ridiculous. Bitcoin does not need a rushed, let alone contentious, and dangerous hard fork, which is coded by an amateur such as Garzik, anytime soon. Smiley
5198  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: ☢ LIST ☢ BitcoinTalk's Escrow Providers: Ranking & Blacklist ☠ Avoid Scammers ☠ on: October 13, 2017, 05:17:10 AM
Hello, I'm just wondering, what is the qualification to become an escrow? I see some of the project usually need escrow so I really wanted to join to earn extra income.
You need to be trustworthy and good at securing and handling large quantities of money. You're likely neither.
5199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2017, 05:14:33 AM
Damn, that spike was unexpected. $6k today or cooling off?

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