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Satoshi isn't an individual it's a movement.
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It sounds like you got burned. Don't bother with pseudo-exchanges, use Kraken next time and you'll be fine.
What he said. I've used Kraken a few times myself and very happy with their service. |
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What would happen if all bitcoin miners unionised and decided to go on strike? Most likely it's highly unlikely to mobilise such a global union but hypothetically what would happen if one day the mining stopped?
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Vancouver is one hot spot for Bitcoin ATMs! Found this one at Thai Vietnamese Cuisine. Their address for the people in the Vancouver area who care to know is located on 986 West Broadway and Oak. Just thought I'd let the community here know about the location.
Now there are 2 places to cash out if you need to. Here and Waves!
These ATMs are starting to pop up more and more everywhere, and I like it for the user adoption! Oh yea, and no blood sample was needed when buying, which is a plus!
To the moon!
All this to the moon stuff is a tab premature and immature really. |
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Sadly there are a few ugly arrogant and dismissive characters on here happy to laugh and criticise other peoples choices and savings. But I warn you never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes.
If you can't take criticism than leave the internet. FOREVER. I am a better person now, because I always took criticism seriously and not whine about how "ugly arrogant and dismissive" critics are.We judge you according to the information you provide. If you feel misjudged, because we don't have enough information about you, it is you fault. Thank you. I never understood how the person that went "There there. The world's unfair." was kinder than the person that said "You screwed up. Figure out what you did wrong. And start over." This philosophy of blaming everything but yourself that I see everywhere makes me so sad. There are so many stories of people overcoming having chronic migraines, being paraplegic and the like and still being able to craft successful thriving lives for themselves. Except that has absolutely zero relevance to the purpose of this thread. Which if I remember correctly was a call for a great big circle jerk of commiseration. I could not participate in that but I also felt it would be ethically objectionable for me not to try to help. You remember incorrectly or have a limited grasp of English interpretation. At no point was sympathy asked for nor sought. I just reread your opening post. You say you want to invest more in bitcoin but lost confidence because the price has dropped since your purchase. But you wish to hear stories from other people in the same boat. So you aren't looking for encouragement (or if you are it is in a very odd method) therefore what other opinion are we suppose to come to? You either want an 'oh me' party or bad advice. Regardless I'm wasting my time at this point and not adding any help veyond that long past given. So I give the last word if you need it. I've satisfied my duties. You've clearly misinterpreted the point and tone of this thread, but thank you nonetheless for your input, no matter how misguided. Goodbye. |
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Sadly there are a few ugly arrogant and dismissive characters on here happy to laugh and criticise other peoples choices and savings. But I warn you never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes.
If you can't take criticism than leave the internet. FOREVER. I am a better person now, because I always took criticism seriously and not whine about how "ugly arrogant and dismissive" critics are.We judge you according to the information you provide. If you feel misjudged, because we don't have enough information about you, it is you fault. Thank you. I never understood how the person that went "There there. The world's unfair." was kinder than the person that said "You screwed up. Figure out what you did wrong. And start over." This philosophy of blaming everything but yourself that I see everywhere makes me so sad. There are so many stories of people overcoming having chronic migraines, being paraplegic and the like and still being able to craft successful thriving lives for themselves. Except that has absolutely zero relevance to the purpose of this thread. Which if I remember correctly was a call for a great big circle jerk of commiseration. I could not participate in that but I also felt it would be ethically objectionable for me not to try to help. You remember incorrectly or have a limited grasp of English interpretation. At no point was sympathy asked for nor sought. |
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Sadly there are a few ugly arrogant and dismissive characters on here happy to laugh and criticise other peoples choices and savings. But I warn you never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes.
If you can't take criticism than leave the internet. FOREVER. I am a better person now, because I always took criticism seriously and not whine about how "ugly arrogant and dismissive" critics are.We judge you according to the information you provide. If you feel misjudged, because we don't have enough information about you, it is you fault. Thank you. I never understood how the person that went "There there. The world's unfair." was kinder than the person that said "You screwed up. Figure out what you did wrong. And start over." This philosophy of blaming everything but yourself that I see everywhere makes me so sad. There are so many stories of people overcoming having chronic migraines, being paraplegic and the like and still being able to craft successful thriving lives for themselves. Except that has absolutely zero relevance to the purpose of this thread. |
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Sadly there are a few ugly arrogant and dismissive characters on here happy to laugh and criticise other peoples choices and savings. But I warn you never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes.
If you can't take criticism than leave the internet. FOREVER. I am a better person now, because I always took criticism seriously and not whine about how "ugly arrogant and dismissive" critics are. We judge you according to the information you provide. If you feel misjudged, because we don't have enough information about you, it is you fault. No the unsavoury characters are jumping to conclusions and judging others on information that's not been provided. I have no issue taking criticism when it's justified and warranted. On this thread it's not, and most right minded on here can see that. Not my fault if you can't. |
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Ok, here's what I'm seeing in this thread and in the general community:
1. No don't spend the bitcoin it's revolution, it's the new wave of the future hold on to it!
2. I turned my bitcoin into money and spent most of it.
Seriously, hypocritical much? A lot of the talk on the forum is how bitcoin shouldn't be a get rich quick scheme yet half of the people who let that sentence fall from their lips do the very thing they tell others not to do.
Have you ever been so desperate for food that you had to ask a strange for 20 dollars just so you could buy bread and something to hold you down? Have you ever needed to hold on to that food so desperately, that you make a loaf of bread last a week? Have you ever been in a position where you can't find work and you have mouths to feed and you don't know what else to do so you take a chance on something and fail? I mean a lot of people are talking from experience like they've got money elsewise where as people like myself and I'm sure many others don't and didn't.
To borrow the expression, aside from the money I receive for my sig campaign, I don't have a pot to piss in. I don't have insurance anymore because I'm "out of coverage" for Medicaid (THANKS OBAMA!) and if I paid out of pocket, it would be considered fraud. I don't have food stamps anymore because I'm not where I'm supposed to be, and I was supposed to go renew it but instead I'm helping my 62 year old mother out because she's fighting breast cancer and she needs help around the house. She doesn't shop, or leave the house much because she's having a hard time with the chemo. I don't see her for days at a time until she needs to go see a doctor. I'm disabled and fighting for SSI because the good old government of the USA thinks I'm disabled enough to not work, and don't deserve it. Yet I've been declared disabled by 2 different doctors, which apparently isn't enough. I can't leave the house sometimes for days because my anxiety and panic sets in so bad that all I want to do is sleep. I don't have a doctor because the stigma attached to this stupid disease or disability makes them think all I'm doing is sitting around chewing on the medicines they give me. When in reality I WANT TO WORK, and I WANT TO GET OUT but I can't. And it's not just a matter of, "oh you can do it don't give in to your mind" it's not that simple, it never is.
People have stories, and it seems everyone here's a critic. Don't discount people because they offer up some sob story, stop being so fudging critical. It's really stupid, not everyone has even a small slice of a "pie". If I were to sum up my condition in one word, it's DROWNING, not even below poverty line and yet I have a million other people, and things I have to worry about. I'm 33 years old and I can't make it on my own. That's why I got into bitcoin, because I'd hoped that someday maybe I'd have something to hold on to for the future, but I got into it just when cpu and gpu mining were a thing of the past. And now in 2014 it's entirely too late to do ANYTHING about it but a sig campaign that pays me out about 30 or 40 a week. Not much I can do with that, and until I earn enough I'm stuck.
This pretty much mirrors my situation except the business I spent years of time energy and money on building went bust and my family lost the house and all our savings. So after honouring all creditors we were left with nothing. Hardest day of my life was telling my loyal employees that is there was no longer any work for them. Sadly there are a few ugly unsavoury arrogant and dismissive characters on here happy to laugh and criticise other peoples choices and savings. But I warn you never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. |
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This is a major coup for Expedia. First to market in the travel industry I think.
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What's a good return? Or what are you expecting?
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Anyone else feel like one of the bitcoin losers? We hear a lot about all the winners, now including some 15 year old child, but very little on the currency's losers. I got swept up in the mania last November and dared to invest my life saving into purchasing 1 bitcoin, just as it was near peak. That turned out to be a terrible purchase for me as the value dropped since, so bitcoin has only ever lost me money. Anyone else in my boots? I'd still like more bitcoins but going on my past 6 months my confidence and trust in this new currency has been shattered.  Yah, I think it wasn't too smart of you to drop your life savings on something as speculative as bitcoin, however, you already learned this lesson the hard way it seems. I just hope that you are still holding the bitcoin because most likely it's going to rise again to what it was at when you bought it so you could sell at that moment and put your money in a savings account  Thank you. Yeah the plan is to hold what few coins including alts for as long as possible. |
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And now for the first time in my forum history I've had to actually ignore someone.
Here's the deal OP, I know this is counter from what I've said or what you wanna hear but you should suck it up. There are still plenty of good opportunities to get some coin, and to invest in BTC even if it means mining altcoin until you earn enough to make a bit of money on the side. What you should do is READ MORE into investing, trading, etc and make sure you know your stuff that way you won't make any mistakes and if you happen at a loss, RIDE IT OUT. There's no telling what'll happen, I mean look how many twists and turns BTC took in the past 2 years and where it's at today.
Keep your head up and stay strong, you can do it man. You can get back your money, it's going to take time yes, but you can do it.
Thanks and good luck to you, and to all posters offering real positive advice and hope. Sadly it seems that a few still have to learn some respect and humanity towards other peoples situations. One day they may learn that money can be easy lost. |
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You have a fundamentally flawed way of thought that stems from a low financial intelligence.
I bet you think that early adopters were rewarded dis-proportionally or didn't deserve their coins as well right? The ability to detect promising technologies is VERY hard work, try your luck in the altcoin announcment section and be an early adopter for another coin. Most people will bitch and moan about the unfairness of early adopters but will never invest a cent into any of the promising altcoins.
Nope I've never thought any such like. For the record I was too busy supporting my business and providing jobs for my employees while bitcoin was formed. I didn't have time to analyse and invest then. I did in November last year and bought my bitcoin and a couple of alts as they were cheap in comparison. |
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As there are a few posters on here who seem to think that they know my life and motives, for clarity, I bought 1 bitcoin with my life savings at the end of last year. Obviously I've rebuilt some of these savings and have a relatively stable present employment situation which feeds the family. As the price of the bitcoin plummeted its shattered my faith in buying more. Not all my eggs are in one basket, or bitcoin if you wish. Running my own business and providing jobs for some faithful employees I lost everything in the recession. That said I've always put food on the table one way or another. The motivation behind buying the bitcoin was not to make a quick buck as I an in this for the long term. I invested in it for my families future, well to hopefully buy a house again and put the kids through collage. I expected bitcoin to have continued its upwards trajectory and am interested in hearing from others who feel that *so far* they are bitcoin losers. Although my original business failed I've no regrets about its years of success and providing jobs to others.
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OK... So your life savings last NOV 2013 you put in what $800 that is your life saving? did you save what $0.50 per week for 20 years... sorry but you sound like a mass troll... or some real poor dude that could do better if he begged for some money..
you know there are people that have lost lot half a btc bot 100 or 1000 btc ... and you dont see them cry in forums...
Yes, life savings. Business went bankrupt during recession. Not everyone is born with a silverspoon stuck up their backside. If you were wealthy enough to EVER own a business (be a slave-owner) you were doing far better than most Americans. Your story doesn't add up. I suspect you are a liar. I'm not American. That's your prerogative. |
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OK... So your life savings last NOV 2013 you put in what $800 that is your life saving? did you save what $0.50 per week for 20 years... sorry but you sound like a mass troll... or some real poor dude that could do better if he begged for some money..
you know there are people that have lost lot half a btc bot 100 or 1000 btc ... and you dont see them cry in forums...
Yes, life savings. Business went bankrupt during recession. Not everyone is born with a silverspoon stuck up their backside. |
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Anyone else feel like one of the bitcoin losers? We hear a lot about all the winners, now including some 15 year old child, but very little on the currency's losers. I got swept up in the mania last November and dared to invest my life saving into purchasing 1 bitcoin, just as it was near peak. That turned out to be a terrible purchase for me as the value dropped since, so bitcoin has only ever lost me money. Anyone else in my boots? I'd still like more bitcoins but going on my past 6 months my confidence and trust in this new currency has been shattered. Seriously, people like you shouldn't invest. EVER. IN ANYTHING. You put money you really need in an asset that is highly speculative. Now, you cry, because you are not a millionaire after 6 months. 6 months are nothing for an investment. Where did I ask to be a millionaire? There was a lot of hype at the end of last year and I invested for my families future not to be some sort of spiv. The "I have a family to feed"-"argument" doesn't change anything. You obviously just wanted quick money without working for it. You gambled on a horse race. Your horse had a bad start. Now, you cry about the money you lost, even though the race is far from over. Again, nowhere have I said that I wanted quick money for anything nor pleaded that I have a family to feed as those expenses are covered with my day job. I repeat I invested for my families FUTURE not be some sort of spiv and I'm interested in hearing from people in a similar situation to myself. Not people like you who are trying to put words in my mouth. |
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Anyone else feel like one of the bitcoin losers? We hear a lot about all the winners, now including some 15 year old child, but very little on the currency's losers. I got swept up in the mania last November and dared to invest my life saving into purchasing 1 bitcoin, just as it was near peak. That turned out to be a terrible purchase for me as the value dropped since, so bitcoin has only ever lost me money. Anyone else in my boots? I'd still like more bitcoins but going on my past 6 months my confidence and trust in this new currency has been shattered. Seriously, people like you shouldn't invest. EVER. IN ANYTHING. You put money you really need in an asset that is highly speculative. Now, you cry, because you are not a millionaire after 6 months. 6 months are nothing for an investment. Where did I ask to be a millionaire? There was a lot of hype at the end of last year and I invested for my families future not to be some sort of spiv. |
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