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5181  Economy / Economics / Re: How good are you at managing your money on: November 19, 2016, 03:46:16 AM
While we are all here on this forum to earn one way or another, how well do you manage that money after you've earned it. Do you trade your Bitcoin as fast as you can spending it all in a day or do you save it? I recently got paid for a job I did in programming and i keep finding myself wanting to spend more of that money i made. I have a lot of credit card debt and that is not good. I have destroyed only two ofg my credit cards to which I owe thousands of dollars on.

how do you spend your money?
How rich you are,  you must not be extravagantly. Keep in simple life like marck zuckerberg. Although he is obviously rich he isn't being extravagantly. I suggest you to divide your salary in three part,  the first part is for your daily need,  the second part is for your investment, then the last part is for your emergency condition. If the first part is can not fulfil your daily need you can take some of the third part.


I spend my money on what my family needs we don't buy things we don't need in the house. Managing my small income is very tight we dont even go to malls to stroll the kids and i spend my money on cheap brands when buying clothings for my kids. I saved my left money in my company cooperative in order for us to have an extra money to spend in times of budget shortage.
wow that's better i guess you also need to take some risk investing in some ways sad truth is our day job won't allowed us to became rich even we spend our lifetime working hard its business or investment will help us and best example is bitcoin to alt trading good way to invest money.
5182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [ZEC] Zcash Speculation on: November 19, 2016, 03:43:40 AM
With the massive influx of new supply ZEC is now facing a 99% value depreciation over the coming month and years. There's no reason to buy and hold zcash with such bleak future outlook. No long term investors, no adoption, no usage. It's going to one of the most brutal bear markets in the history of crypto. I advice to just forget about zcash for the next months, it's not going anywhere but down.

Sub 0.1 BTC is where I'll start looking at it.

How long it will take so you will be able to give us first evaluation?

View weeks after the slow start.
its just happen price now really got depreciated .08 and we cant speculate if that price will rise up or the miners will keep dumping the coin.
5183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can you really earn from gambling and how well did you do? on: November 18, 2016, 05:42:18 AM
If you want to earn money then I suggest, don't try with gambling because your success rate is almost nil and it only depends on your luck. So find some other investment where your risk factors matches to invest. If you want to get some fun, then try gambling with a small amount. If you're lucky then sometimes you may win big amount but it is not a guaranty.

But still you might have chance to win decent amount if you have enough bankroll. You dont even need to aim high win though but only little amount everyday will make a decent profit

For OP, try to make as lowest as possible profit with enough bankroll. I think that is not hard to do
and be sure that greediness will not eat you up, in order for you to win you need first to control emotions as mate said try to earn as little as possible then quit while you are still in the winning side, remember that there's always tomorrow to begin with your gambling activity.
5184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ZEC] ZCASH - All coins are created equal. Discussion Thread (Unofficial) on: November 18, 2016, 05:36:15 AM
If the price would explode in the same way as diff is exploding then we would be all rich... miner cannot make any profit by dumping this coin, no? When will we see the huge massive pump...


1      anonymous   921,375.58   181.026   20.4566

This guy is mining 3% of all coins...

Net Hash: 29,695.42 kSol/s


Trading volume is so high $998, 287 (marketcap: $4,037,942) and still the coin is dropping...

wow gaining 3% if the price jumped high this person would be the luckiest guy who support this project, if ever price went up again and much higher to btc he will become so rich there's always possibility inside crypto so better watched out for the price rebound.
5185  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price will crash tomorrow!! on: November 18, 2016, 05:27:44 AM

It would be nice if actually got the reasoning behind the OP since the price seems fine, what are the reasons for the OP to come to the conclusions he made?, does he have some kind of insiders information?
another speculation that will bring some panic to a weak holders i guess but in its real state i dont see any news that will bring it down
much prefer to continue the uptrend and more and more investors are really enjoying it and joining the ride let see if the price will
make it to 800$ before the months end.
5186  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Duterte's War on Drugs - 1800 Killed and counting on: November 18, 2016, 05:11:27 AM
Drug dealers and users are a scourge upon society. They inflict pain, Crime is fueled by it and in last 10 years, robbery, rape, shooting, riot, mauling, murders all because of drugs everyday.

I agree , as you said they are scourge upon society so they deserve to be punished because they are the reason why there are so many committed in past few years . they don't not have any contribution to the Philippines they are just making other people's life miserable especially the youth so these drug dealers as well as their protectors must be punished and sent to jail or maybe sentenced to death .
the president is really doing a great job regarding to this campaign as we see more and more known personalities has been broadcast which really not been touched before i believed that with this advocacy everything is possible we already felt what the fruits of this campaign we are no longer afraid walking at night as we knew that criminals are now afraid with this sudden killings that happened to those who involved with drug that creates this threat to our life.
5187  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: November 18, 2016, 05:04:53 AM

may not be a scam, but you have to know what happens to altcoin when the price of the bitcoin increases. price altcoin will definitely continue to go down, so you have to be aware of it. When this happens you better trade bitcoin or buy altcoin when the price that is really very low.
 

Your observation is correct. When bitcoin is up,altcoins (mostly) is down. Meaning people are dumping altcoin  or converting their assets to bitcoin and lastly,convert to dollar.

But, on the other hand,it is also a good opportunity to buy at low price. Smiley When market recovers and become stable you gain. Smiley
coming from a person who knows how the alt market works i agree with you best time to select your supported alts and buy it while price still cheap for sure after btc got established to its position the price of the alt will recover and sure profits will come after the value rises up again.
5188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [POT]PotCoin - Banking for the Legal Cannabis Industry ✦ ✦ ✦Grow With Us ✦ ✦ ✦ on: November 18, 2016, 05:01:41 AM
very nice and informative site mate i think placing my investment here would be more realistic now after reading your post i really don't understand it before i just bought because its moving so fast and very profitable inside polo but now i'll keep my coin and try to buy even more maybe  next year after everything got legalize the value of this coin would be much higher.
5189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of Work Altcoins News and Info. Make Profitable Trades. on: November 18, 2016, 04:54:16 AM
A Week in Review

LBRY:  The CEO of LBRY on the Price of LBC
Source

Litecoin:  ALERT: Scam Litecoin wallet has been added to the iOS store. Please report and be careful
Source

Vcash:  Version 0.5.0 ZeroLedger Alpha 2 Release
Source

Most of the PoW coins are on a downtrend due to Bitcoin's price surge, obviously.  It's good to start watching them and go look for possible entries at lower risk of draw downs since the prices will bottom out sooner or later.  GL and GT.

im looking closer with Vcash it seems that its keeps on moving down so better to chase it up to its bottom thank you sharing your reviews there's a lots of opportunities to gain profits if placing entry was completely done in a good timing, good luck mate.
5190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: November 18, 2016, 04:38:50 AM
Hey guys i want to know what is your aim while gambling do you take it as way to get fun and excitement? Or your aiming to get more money and have a living for this thing?


my main aim in the bitcoin gambling is to get more and more money , but unfortunately i didn't make much money , overall i am in neutral condition ( no loss no profit ) .

So, its mean you are satisfied with gambling. But about me, I have no any aim in gambling, Because i play it only for game,  and also if i see my previous records about gambling, than definitely, my loss is more than my winning amount, May be i am not a good gambler, but many time i play dice, and it give me many loses but i am happy, because i like that game, so that's why i don't worry about my lose. But i prefer to sports betting into other gambling games. Because sports betting, it is really good and pure gambling. 
If you are playing for fun and you have a budget then don't worry most gamblers have lost more than what they won that is just the nature of the games offered by the casinos.
well that's true even those pro's really struggled at the beginning of their journey they lose many times before they enjoy their winnings, me i gamble for fun as well sometimes i got burned a big amount but i did controlling myself not to chase for that lose and treat that as a learning experience there's always a big day tomorrow to start all over again.
5191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 18, 2016, 04:30:52 AM
Sometimes people still gambling not only for easy money, cause if the reason is only for easy money people who try gambling will know how is hard to win in gambling, another reason and most reason for people still gambling is cause gambling fun activities, even you get lose and make you stress but thats just for a while after that you will start to gambling again

If people are getting stressed after losing money means they are not gambling for fun or entertainment. Because if you play for fun then people will not be stressed after losing money in gambling. If people are coming again after the stress means they want to recover back their losses, so they will, again and again, try their luck.

If people are getting stressed after losing money, i think there is some problem with their emotion.  At first they known that gambling will probably cost them to lose money.  They are very aware of it, but instead they got easily frustrated.  I would suggest if you are one of this, don't ever try to gamble because it may lead to gambling problem and may affect those who are around you.
exactly if you can't take your loses and if you cant control your self never ever play gamble it will wreck your life and it will not bring any good to you for those who find gambling as a sort of enjoyment i believe they know how to control their emotions and they can stop their self if its needed, so before playing make sure that you are equipped of presence of minds know when to stop when its needed to stop.
5192  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC keep rise again... on: November 18, 2016, 04:27:29 AM
I hope so. In the end of year BTC price is going up, I'm still waiting for Bitcoin price reach to $1000 in December, it would be an amazing Christimas gift for me. I believe Bitcoin price will continue rising its price for a long time yet, no worries about it, that is why I'm on this world, because I really believe on the Bitcoin power. There is much profit to be done with Bitcoins yet.

the bitcoin price could continue its rise emm maybe with some fluctuation
reaching 1000 USD before 2017 well i don't see an event or something special in the near future that could lead it this far unfortunately
i am always optimistic myself concerning the bitcoin price but it isn't that easy to create a huge bubble now  Wink

Might be possible, bitcoin give us good news, Because if we see the recently price of bitcoin, now bitcoin is $746, So it is really good for us, I think in the end of December bitcoin would be cross $800 to $900, but only when bitcoin not take turn. But when bitcoin continuously rise than believe me, i am feeling nervous, because i can't take a right decision of selling my bitcoins. Because i am thinking may be in the coming time bitcoin would be grow more. 
i'm positive and also looking forward for that as we knew how bitcoin showed right now its trying to really jump high, i haven't heard any big news aside from trumps winnings the presidency i don't know if that's related to this current rising but again I'm also believing that reaching 1k$ still possible to achieve before the end of this year.
5193  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: November 18, 2016, 04:22:41 AM
by buying btc from time to time it will allow you to grow your btc holdings and while you are waiting for the price to rise up you needed to study more deep info regarding to trading it is the best venue to grow btc if you are already equipped with knowledge since that btc fluctuates from time to time better to learn how to chase the low price and profits when price rise up then continue learning and go inside the alts trade there's a lots of coins that has been develop but for me i'm just focusing maybe at least 7 alts to play with my btc.
5194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 18, 2016, 04:09:43 AM
nice game with wizard and rockets they really show good games today looking forward for jazz as well they already have so many loses
but i guess bulls will make it hard for them let see who's gonna win placing my bet with jazz ml first quarter just ended.
5195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: November 18, 2016, 03:49:58 AM
Yes definitely. Bitcoin is a revolutionary technology which is helping 1000s of financially poor guys like me. As bitcoin is providing me financial support upto 80% of my monthly expense comes from bitcoin only and test i get from dad and begin a 20 years old guy i feel ashamed to take money dad because it's time to give dad money but in the mean time i am asking money from dad. So bitcoin plays vital role in my life and I hope that poor guys could definitely take benefit from bitcoin.
Yes I agree with you, of course, Bitcoin can help poor people like me. I am a bitcoin users today. and I benefited greatly from the bitcoin. My life and my family is so mired in financial problems. when a friend gave information about bitcoin, my life is getting excited to dig revenue of bitcoin. so as to help the poor people who are curious about bitcoin knowledge. I think there should be action to change that fate.
if we can present proper information and ideas i guess it will help them a lot as we knew poor countries are limited in terms of technology so its really a hard work that we needed to provide in order for them to understand the value of this project and how it will help them in terms of financial gain.
5196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PSB] Pesobit, Philippine-based crypto on: November 18, 2016, 03:47:23 AM
Unbelievable progress, keep it up Lutzow. I'll just keep staking and buying, staking and buying. Sounds catchy!  Cheesy
that's much better keep on buying while the price still cheap and wait for more progress as the dev keeps providing the progress i understand that it will not jumped right away but allowing the project to go naturally and create its value after everything has been established can't wait to see how psb
will compete with well known alt project in terms of the price. good luck dev team just keep it up..
5197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: November 18, 2016, 03:44:37 AM
Almost every person wants profit and I am one of them too..I just don't have any fun in gambling. It's just a way to earn some Bitcoins for me. I play it for getting some extra Bitcoins.

yeah right, and i think all people who tends to gamble very often are really aiming for profit but they are always giving an advice to other people and the common advice is -just gamble for fun not for profit. Grin and to be honest i also gamble very often several months ago and of course i am also gambling just for profit at the same time for a little entertainment . and thanks to myself I stopped it quickly .

Those who play Gambling for fun I think most of them are not addicted to gambling. But those who play for money they are addicted to gambling. Yes, the fun people will not expect more profit, and if they lose bets they will take easy, and they will not run for the loss. But those who play for money, if they lose bet they must run behind their loss. Finally, they will end with big lose. This is the difference b/w fun and profit.

not sure about this because i am not very often to playing gambling but maybe i will comeback like every 3 days or week for playing the games and i am doing this is for fun and not because of the money. and i think myself gets to be addicted but it seems i can control myself to not being greedy.
that's the problem if you got involved and addicted because greediness will follow if everything inside your mind will be the strategy that you will using when you play back if possible to limit your self much more i think gambling should be treat as source of fun and be played if you have spare time but much better to keep your self really busy with your work to make good balance inside your brain.
5198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: November 18, 2016, 03:41:45 AM
Personally i don't see any real difference between Bitcoin and other currencies (i do believe that Bitcoin is in fact real money). We can use Bitcoin the same way using fiat and other currencies.
Real - Crypto. The main point of the different between both of the currencies.  Roll Eyes

Basically both bitcoin and fiat is same if see from aspect that both of these is money that can use to buy or pay something, but these work in different ways. Fiat is real money/real physical currency that we can use more complicated functions rather than bitcoin which is crypto currency and only can use with internet connection. Even fiat like dollars more acceptable everywhere rather than bitcoin.
fiat represent a country that has been established controlled by its government and can physically use inside its jurisdiction and very well known to its community while btc is a internet base currency that has been known by few as of this moment comparing to the users of fiat they similar in terms of uses since btc is also a currency but its limitation always rely with the value of local fiat as well.
5199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: November 18, 2016, 03:36:20 AM
I would prefer real gambling to online because just that I can a feeling of the person I am playing with and to a large extent I am sure if I lose, I lose fair and the same goes for if I should win. This is enough reason for me rather than having to rely on all "provavbly fair slogan" all over the place whereas "the house always wins"

I will still stick also with real gambling because the real thrill will always be there unlike sitting in front of your computer unit while doing some clicks and betting on it. The thrill maybe there but not the same with real gambling, I like more the true gambling experience because you can feel the real upsetting when you lose and real winning if you win.

But real gambling is not allowed in all countries so for those people flying to other countries just to gamble will be very expensive. So for them, it may be good enough online gambling excitement than having very expensive real casino experience. So for I went to real casinos only two times but didn't play much in real casinos.
I can't agree with your statement mate, I am doing real gambling in my country and I am allowed, some countries just have a strict law regarding gambling because they think that it can destroy their people's life but definitely not all country.

Considering your statement is true under the scenario, there is still no reason to be worried as in online world we can gamble using our bitcoin.

Real gambling isnt allowed in my country and I prefer to do the online one. And the fun thing about doing online gambling with bitcoin is till today no one knows if gambling is my daily activity, even my whole family didnt aware about it. Thanks to the internet for making all of this happen!
Just make sure to take additional measures to ensure your anonymity while gambling so you don't suffer any legal consequences for your actions since you could get in trouble.
much prefer to use bitcoin gambling in order to hide yourself and avoid to have big problem as many btc base gambling house has been established nowadays so its not hard anymore to gamble without any trace just be very responsible with your funds.
5200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fixed Matches on: November 18, 2016, 03:32:54 AM
GERMANY: 3. Liga
19:00pm Fortuna Koln – Zwickau
Pick: 1 ( 2.30 )
Ft: ?:?

let see mate i know you just lost credibility but i will try this pick if its really fixed match using small amount of btc for just trying
your free pick good luck to you.
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