really cause of some POS the devs give up on the coin? Coins don't need Woclown. If the devs give up on the coin no one will work with them again. Devs.... grow some and tough it out. Save face now!
mate if you saw the conversation you would be firmly behind my decision. Post it. Nail in the coffin sort of thing for that goof. |
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really cause of some POS the devs give up on the coin? Coins don't need Woclown. If the devs give up on the coin no one will work with them again. Devs.... grow some and tough it out. Save face now!
mate if you saw the conversation you would be firmly behind my decision. |
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guys, just FYI, im outies, im not working with wolong and i am sorry if i have encouraged any of you to do so.
He has completely shat on myself and the other members in the dev team and clearly spread a lot of hatred and disrespect to people through various avenues and i dont want to be associated with him in the slightest.
thanks to everyone
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Hi Guys,
I have kept pretty quiet today as I wanted to see what the general tone is from people.
There are a few things that are abundantly obvious
1. We have grown incredibly fast for a 5 day old coin and a lot of people can see that.. we have over 100k views on here with almost 200 pages..
2. however, contained within those 200 pages is a lot of mixed feedback from people and thats completely fair, we expect it and we/I am doing my best to address all points in the politest way possible in order to bring some order to all the cries of scamming and whatever else.
3. A lot of you guys who are hating on the coin seem to forget that there are a team of people behind this coin, not just Wolong. What I mean by this, is that whilst wolongs is indeed involved, you need to set aside your opinions of him for a minute and consider the other team members on board whilst making an informed decision as to whether or not this coin is for you.
4. Our devs have a very good track record with UNO and it has been an established coin for a long time - I know first hand that not a single person on the team would put themselves in a position where their reputations could be irreparably damaged, myself included, even just from the point of view of being a community facing team member.
5. Lets focus on the bigger picture here.. will this coin succeed? Who knows.. time will certainly tell, but we will be doing our utmost to make that a certainty every step of the way, i can promise you that
6. Lets address the elephant in the room.. Wolong.. is it fair to say that he is not doing this out of some huge altruistic gesture? Absolutely, and it would be stupid to think that. Second, lets not beat around the bush, everyone is involved with crypto for financial gain and what not, the community aspect is fantastic and that is no doubt a secondary reason as to why people are here. Do I believe that wolong is going to make OTHER people money? I don't know, but I hear he has already, multiple times over.. Does that mean that I will personally stake my life savings on his words/promises and whatever else.. absolutely not, but thats not bceause i don't trust the guy, its beacuse thats just my character and i want to be open about it, but thats me.
7. The whole argument with regard to innovation - this is going to become a moot point in a month or so when the vast majority of coins being released are goign to be implementing these technologies as they are a much needed market correction which IN MY OPINION should be rolled out as the defacto way of building new alts (that is with N and KGW). I know a lot of you guys are rooting for vert..but theres no need to 'root' for anyone, we are not at war here and we can certainly each have our own market share without stepping on eachothers toes. We live in an open source community where the drive is to create innovation which can be shared.. not get in to troll pseudo-patent wars over something that is actually going to benefit both past and present devs of new alts.
to summarise - I would like to give you my unbiased opinion, and i sincerely hope that to both 'schools of thought' here you will take me at my word.
you are all entitled for your own personal reasons to make your own decisions on wolong.. but please be more considerate to the fact that wolong is not doing anything day-to-day to maintain PANDA from a tech standpoint, the network or speak to you all for the most part and to please realise that there are many moving parts to this machine and we hope that whilst your opinion of wolong may be slightly 'low'.. we encourage you to look beyond that to what we are trying to do and work toward as a community.
I am in no way trying to 'win anyone over' here, i am just trying to be fair with those who have taken it upon themselves to hammer this thread with accusations, big black and red letters and all-round mention of distrust/disgust for the guy.
Like I have said from day 1, you are not being forced to mine the coin, we appreciate your view if you are not interested and we are massively grateful to everyone who has jumped on the PANDA bamboo canoe and taken a ride with us, its going to be great
sev
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Panda is doing great only 5 days young wow great job devs...thanks devs for all your hard work im still mining!
Panda Phq3okjsF3sD777fWmhcPGJdf8YcF4C6Lt
you are very welcome handsome panda |
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Too much to quote but I still have to answer because...
Sorry, but how fucking naive are you??
You support a coin, that's WHOLE premine is owned by a market manipulator and selfproclaimed coin-rapist! THATs why I asked where the damn BTC of the IPO went to. Is wolong still holding 200 or 250BTC? His "ledger" wallet is in YOUR damn posting, it shows a balance of 1.65 billion pandacoins and a shortage of 500 million coins (the wallet incoming is 2.5b not 3b, which would be 3%). And you are telling me, that you know nothing of this? You support that coin and have never been interested in these background details? Sorry, if I am not buying this...
And you claim to support the idea of the coin and "creating a long-lasting community driven coin", but let the coin be promoted by an asshole who controls the premining and IPO process, screams around like a pubescent teenager, is KNOWN for fucking any coins that come along just worth a try?
Really, this hogwash is way beyond my ability to take. There are not enough faces for all the palms needed...
bro seriously, just go through 150 pages of thread, its actually going to help me keep my sanity  the other 500 was given straight to artis and jacob to distribute amongst the rest of the team as well as fund giveaways and projects, sites, utilities for the coin as well as development areas. Hey, whos here promoting the coin.. me.. not wolong. |
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because you cant read doesnt mean im worming around anything little panda.
I don't know about the BTC as I am had no involvement in the IPO - You are directing this question at the wrong person - and did i receive any BTC before you ask.. NO... does it worry me.. NO - we all have a common objective here which is to see the coin succeed and in 4 days we have accomplished more than pretty much any other alt coin around .. have you ever seen so much momentum behind a launch?
Now i've given you an answer re the IPO PANDAS which were distributed your still trying to find a way to justify your words by saying 'what if what if' about various things.. Molly, Jacob and Wolong have all said this much, i don't doubt for one second they will be sticking to their guns, as wolong did about releasing public ledger.
Let me tell you, openly and honestly, I have pasted my wallet here before and for my efforts in helping the team and to get the coin out there I received 20mil from the devs for my ongoing assistance.
I don't understand why you are spending so much time trying to seemingly look for something that in reality just doesn't exist.. what do you want myself or any other team member to say.. 'yes, we are using these bitcoins we raised in the IPO to purchase WMD's' ..
if you are not mining panda, holding panda or interested in panda then why are you here? lol
So, and why didnt you tell that the first time when I asked? I asked where the transparency is and you wormed around. If you dont know that, then you are not the right adress of my question - yet you should ask it yourself, I mean after all you created this thread here and are suporting the coin heavily with your time and probably even with part of your earnings... correct, i am supporting this coin and it is something I believe in, and I am very impressed with unobtanium which Is why i have given time to help in achieve more exposure to PANDA as well as firmly backing the team behind it, prior to this coin i had no real interaction with wolongSo, wolong has been known for aggressive attacks on markets, getting teams together on IRC and bid-ridding to manipulate price. Now he creates a coin, collects 250BTC and holds still more than half of the premine. What's that money for? Wolong is an aggressive child who thinks himself as the king of crypto market. Lets be clear, wolong did not create the coin, Jacob, artis101 and other devs have spearheaded the development and creation of the coin and wolong partnered with us/them in order to create something more unique that would be attracted to those types of users.. what he does in IRC i have no idea, i cannot help you there im sorry. And why I am here? I too said that already, its you who can not read - or doesnt want to. You are doing foul game here, ignoring half of what I said. I am here because I believe in cryptos and their free and decentralized ideal. This coin is completely against it, as I explained already. You trust someone who posts boldly on twitter, that he "kills" coins. I think you need to decide what you are going to back here because the two are not mutually exclusive - yes wolong has involvement in the coin, but there is more to the coin that wolongs name being attached - and no disrespect to wolong, but with or without him, i would be involved in this coin. Its unfair of you to say we are doing 'foul game' with the coin as we have everyones best interest at heart in terms of creating a long-lasting community driven coin Original: https://twitter.com/GameOfDeception/status/435798224696131585Besides that this is total bullshit, Doge is far from being killed and all his manipulating attemts did nothing on the market because the volume of Dogecoin was too big for our little chinese friend. Still he declares war on other coins? You still believe in this guy, who calls himself "Game of deception"? This is not a scammer? You kidding me? his actions are his own and he is responsible for himself.. i cannot talk about nor can i justify his actions in any way, im sorry, it has 0 to do with me as previously statedYou wanted evidence that wolong manipulates markets, here you have your evidence, served by "GOD" himself. i never asked for evidence that wolong manipulates markets, i am aware that he has a certain amount of financial influence over other coins - what I asked for is proof that he is a scammer, because making accusation like that is just wrong without any firm evidence to back it up. You also have to remember that regardless of what his twitter says, its for you to buy-in to that belief as to whether or not he can trash a coin or not.. me personally.. i have no idea and i dont really care if he can or if he cant because it doesnt affect me given that i am not involved in mining or supporting those other coins currently other than DOGE which I am involved with on a community level Cryptos already have bad reputation by conservative media and people who dont know more. Cryptos are called money for criminals, ponzi, scam in the outside world and infantile sociopaths like wolong just proves the naysayers right. States are banning or planning to ban cryptomarkets, and this harms us all! yeah, i do not pay much attention to what the media's take on a decentralized currency is as they are no doubt going to trash it.. i suggest you make and form your own opinions.. no offence. And lets not get in to the regulation discussion because its a whole can of worms we realy dont need to openNow wolong comes out of some hole and declares war on several coins and you fucking trust him your EARNINGS? I can not describe how retarded that is... this coin is not a fair compeditor, it is an aggressive attempt to milk money out of a hype of altcoins and it's pulling the whole scene into dirt, everyone who supports these children. And that's why I am here. I want cryptos to survive, I want them to become an alternative for state controlled fiat money, I want fair competition, and proov, that this works with out centralized state controled economy. I want freedom. But with freedom comes responsibility for one's own actions. This kid here has none. as stated above, with or without wolong, i would be involved in this coin. For me, its not a question of trust, i find the project exciting and i can see that with the right momentum we will have even more success than we currently do. Regardless of wolong, this coin is awesomeANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ABOVE |
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Hi sevoque Is it possible to get another pool added, I've been using http://panda.ocukminingpool.com/ which I`ve had very good results from and found support great and fees are 0.5% typically around 50+MH. Would be nice to show my appreciation and try increase the hash rate? Smiley Many thanks in advance added bro |
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Is it possible to run something like vertminer (for pandacoin) with CGwatcher? From what I've read it looks like you can just point to a miner.exe program and config within CGwatcher. Has anyone done it and if so can you post a link or some info's?
UPDATE: I've run vertminer successfully with a .bat file, but I'd like to set it up with CGwater.
yes, mine is with cgwatcher |
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PND is 3 times more profitable to mine than PANDA. Going rate is 5 satoshis for PND. At current difficulty of 7.6, thats about $41 per day at 1 mh/s.
awesome, gl selling your Penis Nipple Dick coin Pro tip. They can already be traded easily on CoinedUp. I wish them all the best of luck, sincerely. |
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PND is 3 times more profitable to mine than PANDA. Going rate is 5 satoshis for PND. At current difficulty of 7.6, thats about $41 per day at 1 mh/s.
awesome, gl selling your Penis Nipple Dick coin |
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Even when I show you my statements you keep ingoring them. You are so deep in your believership, that you can not even answer simple questions, like where the premine went to and how much went to his IRC-clan that paid 0.1BTC to be in his secret circle and to be first at wolong's feeding trough. You still failed to answer after you screamed at me, that wolong does not own the 3billion.
I don't really care to follow all the IPO drama, but 1% was actual premine, 2% went to the people who bought into the IPO @ 25sat. I believe some payments are still ongoing. I know you 4chan folks just want to keep repeating the same falsehoods, but if it was a scam and they were holding the entire 3%, don't you think this board would be FILLED with people screaming about being ripped off for BTC? Again, I know you just want to try to spread your talking points, but think about what i wrote. Now, that is a nice way of deceptive arguing, cutting half of my post off and explain stuff that I wrote in that cutted off part and then accuse me for falsehoods. Who's scamming who? Your "community" has repeatedly posted links to non PANDA pools here in an effort to steal people's hashing power. While on your thread you guys are incredibly desperate to get onto some exchange to dump tens of millions of coins that a small group have mined In your head, you might be on some righteous crusade, but your efforts are nothing but scams in their own rights. But everything i've seen with PANDA is that investors have been satisified, miners (like me) who started on 0 hour and have been selling are incredibly happy as well. You could have cloned PANDA, released it under it's own name and maybe you would have gained some traction. I certainly might have mined it but your methods are anything but ethical while you continue to scream about this coin. This is seriously getting boring. FYI - I bought into Pandacoin on the IPO for 2BTC's. Massive risk? Yes, sending irrevocable crytocurrency to an absolute stranger, with no guarantee of success. But I believe in W and the dev team. I judge on actions. Have I received my PANDA? The answer is yes. So W and co are OK in my books. Did anyone dump? I don't know for sure, there is nothing to rule out the possibility of dumping by W across several accounts. But any such action would be harmful to the coin and its investors. PANDA is currently at a decent price, considering it has only been on for four days. I bought in at 2BTC (the max allowed), Molly is invested at 50BTC's. That's the faith we have in the coin, and we all hope the coin reaches a much higher level. What you and your cohorts are attempting to do (albeit not very successfully) is to derail the price, out of some vendetta against W. What about all the 'innocent' people who have invested? What about the devs? Are you all really that spiteful? May I suggest that if you have nothing constructive to add, then please kindly leave as you sound like an annoying record that is constantly on repeat. No-one is forcing you to mine or trade this coin. Let its success derive from the market and not from some childish hate campaign. +100 I'm nominating you for an academy award of best troll diffuser ever. |
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thats right panda friends
soaring toward 5.5ghash net speed on adaptive N
A bunch of people with scryptN Asics? Please to tell me where I can get one of these magical devices, I would like to purchase some. same.. here i am using GPU's like a total noob  |
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thats right panda friends
soaring toward 5.5ghash net speed on adaptive N
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And did you miss the part about him, molly (50 BTC investor in IPO) and jacobUX (one of the devs) saying that they will be holding until August this year minimum?
Edit - in other words - market manipulation is a moot point since by that time there will be massive amounts more of PANDA available to the market.
So molly said that, and when it rains tomorrow, he might change his opinion, or not, who knows? And whats with the other 200BTC? OP still worms around the questions...  because you cant read doesnt mean im worming around anything little panda. I don't know about the BTC as I am had no involvement in the IPO - You are directing this question at the wrong person - and did i receive any BTC before you ask.. NO... does it worry me.. NO - we all have a common objective here which is to see the coin succeed and in 4 days we have accomplished more than pretty much any other alt coin around .. have you ever seen so much momentum behind a launch? Now i've given you an answer re the IPO PANDAS which were distributed your still trying to find a way to justify your words by saying 'what if what if' about various things.. Molly, Jacob and Wolong have all said this much, i don't doubt for one second they will be sticking to their guns, as wolong did about releasing public ledger. Let me tell you, openly and honestly, I have pasted my wallet here before and for my efforts in helping the team and to get the coin out there I received 20mil from the devs for my ongoing assistance. I don't understand why you are spending so much time trying to seemingly look for something that in reality just doesn't exist.. what do you want myself or any other team member to say.. 'yes, we are using these bitcoins we raised in the IPO to purchase WMD's' .. if you are not mining panda, holding panda or interested in panda then why are you here? lol |
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A Reminder to New Miners of PANDA
Do not blindy mine pools you find listed throughout this thread. Refer to the OP for the official pools. There is severe pandamonium going on with a small group of people from 4chan trying (but failing) to cause chaos. They have created a scrypt clone version of the coin and are tricking people into mining their coin.
Please, refer to page 1 and get onto an acutal PANDA pool.
+1 can I get an amen! |
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PANDACOIN now on coinmarketcap.com  and now multipools will rape it. Do any multipools even do Adaptive N? no, but the owner of hascho.ws actually owns one of the listed pools in OP which was set up specifically for panda through adaptive-N |
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Nobody will know what will happen. And spamming that Panda will fail will not change it's fate.
In case you dont remember, Doge, too, was being trolled heaviliy on the release. People where calling it Jokecoin, stating that it's investors and miners where stupid, that it was nothing more than a Ponzi Scheme and a Scam.
And look where's it is now.
It's a cycle. When a new coin become popular and start threatening other coins, their community become scared and spread FUD.
Except for that Doge was not created by a known hysterical screaming scammer but instead had a fun-loving and creative community, that made memes of the memes again and again and beat the community of litecoin and bitcoin on reddit within weeks. bro please feel free to actually provide some evidence to all these bold claims of scam accusations or troll somewhere else thanks sev I did already. When you ignore my posts, that's not my problem. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=460037.msg5215330#msg5215330.. i asked for some solid evidence, your just ranting about irl stock trading and the legalities.. so.. proof? Even when I show you my statements you keep ingoring them. You are so deep in your believership, that you can not even answer simple questions, like where the premine went to and how much went to his IRC-clan that paid 0.1BTC to be in his secret circle and to be first at wolong's feeding trough. You still failed to answer after you screamed at me, that wolong does not own the 3billion. no no, i think you keep ignoring what im saying. i am not in wolongs 'secret circle' there is a public ledger available if you open your eyes and look for it which details all the buy ins for the IPO many many people came to irc (people who were on time) and bought in to the IPO as well as messaged me on here adn i relayed those messages.. i cant tell you how many i had.. its insane and correct, wolong does not 'own' the premine - read the OP and then we can have a discussion First of all, you too try to turn my words at whim, I never said you been nor do I care if you are in his secret circle. The Channel exists, protocolls been leaked several times and are available on pastebin for everyone to read. Also, please read back, I already mentioned this several times: He either owns 3b or he owns the bitcoins what were spend in the IPO. And in the "public ledger" all I see is transactions to various adresses. What does wolong use 250BTC for? That's more than a quarter million $USD when BTC goes back on it's old price! It was said he bribed to markets to take pandacoin in, how much? 50? 100? Furthermore, there are still more than 50% (1.65b) of the premine owned by him and that's used for what? The purpose for both, the IPO-profit and 1.6b PANDA left + what his IRC-team owns is market control, simple as that. The math is simple: Have 50% of both for proper buy and sell manipulation and set your walls where ever you need them to keep the price at your whim. In the posting I linked, I asked for transparency, you give none. And did you miss the part about him, molly (50 BTC investor in IPO) and jacobUX (one of the devs) saying that they will be holding until August this year minimum? Edit - in other words - market manipulation is a moot point since by that time there will be massive amounts more of PANDA available to the market. |
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solid 5ghash net hash on adaptive N
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