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521  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Tiktok shop tutup apa ekonomi akan berubah ? on: November 05, 2023, 02:13:07 AM
Maraknya berita dari pedagang bahwa tiktok shop ditutup sehingga berefek pada para penjualan online di berbagai sudut pandang, dengan ditutup nyan platform tersebut akan kehilangan pencaharian yang julan online,live, bahkan kurir juga berdampak. Namun perlu kita diskusi apa akan ada perubahan ekonomi buat yang ofline ?.
Yuk shering pendapat agan-agan semuanya

Kalau pengaruh terhadap perekonomian nasional pastinya tidak gan, karena tiktok hanya 1 diantara buanyak banget palikasi atau platform yang bisa digunakan untuk berjualan. Tetapi kalo buat penjualnya tentu berpengaruh gan, soalnya ane denger kalo tiktok maren-maren itu lagi bakar-bakar duit jadi biasanya banyak promo yang memudahkan dan menguntungkan untuk penjual atau pembeli. Kalo misalnya tiktok akan berpengaruh besar terhadap perekonomian nasional pasti pemerintah akan berpikir dua kali kalo ingin menutupnya.
522  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hi Im very newbie on: November 05, 2023, 12:08:21 AM
Hi , so where do i start do i have any luck to earn some profit?
I been contacted on Telegram someone told to pay signals 300$ ....he showed to his binance profits futures signals.
Im sceptical so i ask here other what should i do ? To buy signals ? And what's the signals price then ? Will i earn 3000% monthly really with payed signals ?? Indont belive is that Easy to make money ?  Sorry i don't want to sound dumb but i really don't know and i don't want to lose for no reason just

I have never joined a trading signal but I am quite sure that the trading signal is a hoax. They don't predict the price of crypto, they just play the price by pumping small altcoins to rise significantly in a limited time. It's just a conspiracy between them and their group members to buy in bulk, if they sell the altcoin too late then the price will quickly fall again. I don't recommend you to do something like that at all
523  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Q&A)Apa alasan anda bergabung ke situs bitcointalk? on: November 04, 2023, 08:55:58 PM
Ane mah sepakat ame yang diem sih gan?😁

Nice..

Sepertinya agan agak tersinggung dari balasan member lain. btw diforum ini emang sering beda pendapat gan. Dan ane pernah dapat saran juga kalo lebih baik berkulit tebal dan jangan terlalu mudah tersinggung biar nyawam aja. Jangan baperan gan Grin

Oya satu lagi, engga boleh komentar menumpuk kurang dari 24 jam. Jika agan mau bales komentar dari member lain yang berbeda beda bisa gunakan opsi multiquote gan. Di bagian bawah kotak post ada tulisan insert quote dari tulisan member lain.

Btw lagi, jangan kesinggung gan ama komentar ane, emang peraturane gitu kalo keseringen nanti bisa kena ban sementara  Wink
524  Other / Meta / Re: A small merit-sending UI tweak on: November 04, 2023, 02:17:37 AM
I would have included PHP diffs with this post, but I don't have access to the relevant code, so all I can do this time around is make suggestions like a noob. Cheesy

I don't know anything about what you're talking about, because the code language is too complicated for me to imagine. So of everything you talk about, I like the word above the most. LOL

Btw, I like option C, hopefully it can be implemented soon, but if not, it's okay because I only have a little merit to send, and often there is nothing to send
525  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [NEWS] Besok Binance Akan Tangguhkan Penarikan Bitcoin on: November 04, 2023, 02:09:45 AM
https://twitter.com/binance/status/1719921394677666045

25 daftar tersebut dihapus karena beberapa masalah seperti Volume perdagangan dan likuiditas yang rendah.

Binance pertama-tama akan menghapus
- At 2023-11-03 03:00 (UTC): CAKE/BUSD, COMP/BUSD, CRV/BUSD, EOS/BUSD, FIDA/BUSD, FLOW/BUSD, GLMR/BUSD, GRT/BUSD, HFT/BUSD, ICP/BUSD, KEY/BUSD, LDO/BUSD, LEVER/BUSD
- At 2023-11-03 05:00 (UTC): MAGIC/BUSD, MASK/BUSD, MKR/BUSD, MULTI/BUSD, OG/BUSD, PHB/BUSD, PYR/BUSD, SANTOS/BUSD, T/BUSD, UNI/BUSD, XMR/BUSD, XVG/BUSD

Ini beneran kan gan koin-koin besar seperti EOS, UNI, dan XMR akan di delisting dari binance? atau hanya menghapus pair ke BUSD aja gan? Kalau sampe beneran di delisting berarti rawan banget ya memegang altcoin. Terkait penangguhan penarikan disebabkan maitanance ya gan? ane pernah ngalamin juga keknya hal serupa di indodax
526  Economy / Reputation / Re: Announce your rank up, merit or any achievements that makes you feel great! on: November 04, 2023, 12:44:03 AM
Hey Friends - I don't know what I want to say right now, but I'm happy to announce that I have ranked up to Legendary this time. I honestly didn't realize that I had ranked up to Legendary with 896 number of activity - this is a milestone that is probably worth announcing to you here. So for that - I thank whoever you are who has supported me during this time in any form, but at this time there is no celebration that I have in mind.

Congratulations guys, this is a great achievement. You can get legendary rank before your activity reaches 1000. Does this happen because your merit is greater than your activity? Looks like most members will get legendary rank when the activity is 1000. Congratulations
527  Economy / Reputation / Re: Advertised services and participants in a paid sig campaign on: November 03, 2023, 02:47:09 PM
will this continue to be opened until someone's reputation is damaged?
Probably yes, because obviously some people here are having an issue with my topic because it's exposing their hypocrisy.  Cheesy
But speaking of damaged reputation, I can see that Little Mouse already has one neutral DT feedback and one negative, although Lauda is not frequently in DT. Still, it seems to be an interesting case to be explored.  Wink

If you want to ruin someone's reputation maybe you can tag them negatively, you're a DT, and you have the assumptions of this thread to reference. From what I've read, when someone agrees with one's disagreement then it's an agreement, yet here you are insisting that your statement be agreed with by everyone. It looks childish

I'm sure many people agree that gambling is a bad act, and I'm sure all gamblers know that but they still gamble. So?

But from this discussion I became curious about coins.game so I created an account there. Ah, maybe this is one of the best promotions


But never mind, I don't have enough level to argue with you, I'll step back and feel free to do whatever you like, I know the arguments of low rank members won't be heard
528  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: (Q&A)Apa alasan anda bergabung ke situs bitcointalk? on: November 03, 2023, 01:28:43 PM
Yang pertama dan yang utama adalah untuk meningkatkan pengetahuan yang lebih jauh tentang blockchain, namun dibalik semua itu yang paling penting adalah untuk mendapatkan penghasilan tambahan (UANG), apa jadinya jika saya cuman sekedar ingin mengetahui blockchain jika tak ada uang yang masuk dalam dompet saya.
Mungkin sebagian besar orang tidak menyadari ini, dan mungkin orang jaim tentang ini, yang jelas disini jika tak ada uang masuk/pembayaran yang tidak jadi uang pasti ga bakalan orang mau tau tentang ini.
Sebab, dijaman sekarang ini saya akui semua serba uang, bahkan ke toilet juga perlu uang, namun tidak semua harus pakai uang, karna uang pun jika tak laku apalah daya.
Jadi, saya kira hidup ini perlu uang namun tidak semua bisa diselesaikan oleh uang, intinya harus bijak dalam pemahaman tentang uang dan cara pengelolaan uang itu sendiri.

Dari kebanyakan komentar yang ada di thread ini, kebanyakan menjawab bergabung ke forum ini karena ingin belajar tentang bitcoin dan karena ingin mendapatkan pendapatan tambahan (uang), jadi pada engga jaim kok gan dan banyak yang mengaku kalo bergabung di forum ini karena membutuhkan penghasilan tambahan (uang)

Ane sepakat sama agan @khiholangkang bahwa setiap orang memiliki tujuan masing-masing dalam forum ini, dan itu tidak masalah selama tidak berniat untuk menipu sesorang maka sampean akan diterima di forum ini gan. Selamat datang dan semoga hajat sampean bisa segera terwujud, kalau hitungan ane, akun baru sampe naik rank ke FM membutuhkan waktu sekitar 4 bulan, jika agan kuat maka kemungkinan agan bisa mulai mendapatkan penghasilan tambahan dari forum, Goodluck gan
529  Other / Meta / Re: Image ban or tagging, is it possible? on: November 03, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
Skepticism is the father of curiosity so in this respect, I would like to ask a simple question about the possibilities of one getting ban through posting of images here in the forum, because I know this community doesn't joke around with strict policy of countering people that do copy pasting.

In my opinion, what is meant by skepticism is the tendency not to believe something, not to want to know about something. I've read about the concept of skepticism in philosophical analogies, but it was a long time ago and many have forgotten.

In respect of posting of images, although I haven't seen any body get banned although I don't know if it's because I have search hard enough but I wouldn't want to be corrected by someone again through PM so I decided to come public on this one. So please the community should clear if I can banned or tagged from copying someone image in creating my topic without adding a reference link.

I don't think you will be banned from taking pictures on the internet. This is because the bitcointalk site does not support image hosting, so when you post an image you have to upload the image to an image hosting site such as talkimg.com. As far as I know, you will not be considered plagiarist for pasting image links from image hosting
530  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: November 03, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Maksudnya kalo kita punya komputer miner gan, kira-kira penghasilan harian atu bulanannya itu nyampe berapa? Bukan hitung-hitungan secara global,  ane liat harga miner untuk btc juga muahal. Terus kalo mining yang pake GPU, itu bener-bener ga perlu miner yang khusus untuk btc? hanya komputer biasa gitu gan? (eh tapi sorry gan, keknya ane melenceng terlalu jauh dari topik)
Yups sebenernya ini agak melenceng dari topik, tapi menurut ane masih nyambung sedikitlah, apa lagi halving itu sangat erat kaitannya dengan miner.

Begini aja gan, kita tidak perlu ribet ngitung berapa penghasilan mereka perhari atau perbulan, Kita lihat saja nanti setelah halving, apakah mereka masih tetap lanjut mining atau enggak, kalau lanjut artinya masih profit dong, kalau enggak artinya sudah tidak profit. Dulu itu ane sempat denger ada beberapa miner yang nutup rig-nya setelah halving atau tepatnya 2 tahun setelah itu, Dikarenakan harga btc saat itu sangat tidak seimbang dengan cost operasional mereka. Namun itu tidak selamanya, ane lihat setelah 1 atau 2 tahun, mereka beroperasi kembali, artinya memang ada masa dimana miner itu harus istirahat karena sikon yang mengharuskan itu.

Cara melihat melihat miner sudah mulai aktif kembali itu dari hash, kalau meningkat, artinya jaringan sudah sehat, dan itu pertanda baik untuk harga maupun perkembangan bitcoin itu sendiri.

Ya mungkin tetap ada naik turunya juga ya pendapatan miner. btw sebenernya ane pengen belajar juga tentang miner, siapa tau suatu saat bisa beli nimer atau ngrakit pc sendiri, dari sepemahaman ane mining itu tidak selalu pake alat miner kan ya, bisa pake GPU pc

Oya sebenarnya tadi pagi ane baca kalau ahir-ahir ini hasrate bitcoin mengalami kenaikan, mungkin banyak yang antusias terkait datangnya halving.
531  Economy / Reputation / Re: Advertised services and participants in a paid sig campaign on: November 03, 2023, 01:06:05 PM
Honestly, I'm surprised why this thread is still open. I think only 2 people can solve it, the first is LM and the second is Ben, these two people have come and expressed their opinions. Does OP still have other goals? We cannot force what we believe on other people, we are all adults and have our own views on life. Both OP, LM, and Ben, you are great members here, will this continue to be opened until someone's reputation is damaged?
532  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Menguji Netralitas Presiden di Pemilu on: November 02, 2023, 08:39:22 AM
Walaupun tujuannya makan siang, tetap bung Indonesia Harus Berubah.
Pemilu yang jurdil itu yang harus diutamakan, ke khawatiran tentang Netralitas sudah disampaikan, mudah-mudahan bukan saja didengarkan tapi juga dilaksanakan.

Semoga pemilu lebih baik dari tahun kemarin anggaran triliunan rupiah jangan dari kardus lagi kotak suara nya Cheesy
Kalah menang hal biasa , siapapun pemimpin selanjutnya semoga membawa Indonesia lebih baik dan lebih maju ke depan nya.


Ane belum baca terkait berita ini, tapi meskipun hanya makan siang pasti ada pembahasan yang mereka bahas. Tapi keknya ga bakal di dengarkan deh gan soalnya kita cuma bahas disini, dan pak presiden keknya juga ga ikutan forum ini.

Kotaknya harus dari apa emang gan? susah ngangkutnya ntr kalo kotak suara terbuat dari besi, boros space saat pengirian dan merepotkan TPS saat bawa-bawa kotak suara. Ane pikir kita bisa berkontribusi untuk terwujudnya pemilu yang lebih baik, bisa gabung jadi KPU, KPPS, PANWAS, Atau TPS, ane pikir itu bisa jadi bukti nyata kita mensukseskan pemilu. Ane mo daftar TPS kalo di terima  Wink
Membicarakan kontribusi kita terhadap terselenggaranya pemilu yang lebih baik, saya pikir dengan tidak golput dan ikut memberikan 1 suara kita kepada salah satu calon itu adalah sebuah kontribusi kita terhadap perpolitikan Indonesia dan  sebagai warga negara yang baik saya selalu memberikan suara dari hak pilih saya, baik itu dari tingkat desa maupun tingkat nasional.
Nah ada yang menarik disini, di daerah saya orang orang yang selalu menjadi KPU, KPPS, PANWAS, Atau TPS orangnya itu itu saja, saya tidak tahu apakah ini melalui seleksi atau semacamnya atau memang hanya orang yang memiliki keistimewaan saja, misalnya dekat dengan orang yang bekerja disana. Padahal menurut sepengetahuan saya sih semua warga negara memiliki hak yang sama untuk menjadi "petugas" istilahnya, terlebih jika itu dengan diadakan seleksi untuk perekrutannya.
Entah saya yang kurang update atau bagaimana, yang jelas di daerah saya semua anggota sudah terbentuk tanpa ada pengumuman bahwa akan diadakan perekrutan petugas dan menariknya adalah setiap ada pemilihan pasti orangnya adalah orang lama.

Biasanya ada rekruitmen gan, mungkin agan kurang aktif di desa, soalnya di daerah ane biasanya kekurangan orang dan sering juksung siapa aja yang mau jadi TPS, selain itu kadang desa juga ngutamain orang yang aktif kegiatan desa seperti anak karang taruna, kader kesehatan, RT, RW, karena mereka ga ada gaji/intensip dari desa jadi biasanya pada di masukan ke TPS biar pada dapet pemasukan. Kalo penjaringan secara masif memang setau ane ga ada soalnya biaya di desa juga terbatas.

Ane biasane mpe di paksa biar mau jadi TPS lagi karena katanya sulit nyari anak muda yang mau, apalagi sekarang TPS makin banyak.
533  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Menguji Netralitas Presiden di Pemilu on: November 01, 2023, 01:05:13 PM
Walaupun tujuannya makan siang, tetap bung Indonesia Harus Berubah.
Pemilu yang jurdil itu yang harus diutamakan, ke khawatiran tentang Netralitas sudah disampaikan, mudah-mudahan bukan saja didengarkan tapi juga dilaksanakan.

Semoga pemilu lebih baik dari tahun kemarin anggaran triliunan rupiah jangan dari kardus lagi kotak suara nya Cheesy
Kalah menang hal biasa , siapapun pemimpin selanjutnya semoga membawa Indonesia lebih baik dan lebih maju ke depan nya.


Ane belum baca terkait berita ini, tapi meskipun hanya makan siang pasti ada pembahasan yang mereka bahas. Tapi keknya ga bakal di dengarkan deh gan soalnya kita cuma bahas disini, dan pak presiden keknya juga ga ikutan forum ini.

Kotaknya harus dari apa emang gan? susah ngangkutnya ntr kalo kotak suara terbuat dari besi, boros space saat pengirian dan merepotkan TPS saat bawa-bawa kotak suara. Ane pikir kita bisa berkontribusi untuk terwujudnya pemilu yang lebih baik, bisa gabung jadi KPU, KPPS, PANWAS, Atau TPS, ane pikir itu bisa jadi bukti nyata kita mensukseskan pemilu. Ane mo daftar TPS kalo di terima  Wink
534  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Does Faucet give real bitcoins every few hours? on: November 01, 2023, 11:20:00 AM
So what happens to the FTX exchange that experiences problems like this? I heard that FTX was a big exchange that went bankrupt but I don't know the root of the problem because at the time it happened I wasn't on this forum yet. I was interested in reading the FTX case.

A bit surprising you haven't learned about all the drama with FTX if you're into Bitcoin.  I mean, its been all over the news and Reddit threads, and it's still a hot topic because of the ongoing trial.  But, even if you don't keep up with the latest industry news, seems weird you'd miss it just hanging around here.  I know we all get busy with life and can't read every little thing.  But this was a pretty massive deal.

Anyway, no judgement if you're just catching up now.  But if you wanna understand what happened, there's plenty of explainers out there.  Might be worth doing some reading on your own so you don't feel so out of the loop.  

Hahaha  Grin... Maybe I'm too interested in the drama on the forum to rarely participate in discussions on other boards. btw where I live very few people know about bitcoin so I don't really read news about FTX. Maybe even if I stick my bitcoin key on the front door, none of my neighbors will know what it is and my bitcoins will be fine. But I will definitely read the news about FTX and catch up
535  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Does Faucet give real bitcoins every few hours? on: November 01, 2023, 08:14:43 AM
So in a few hours the faucet will give us a very small amount of free bitcoins. The question is, is it real bitcoin? or is it just fake bitcoins and when we have met the minimum withdrawal limit, they just send real bitcoins to our withdrawal wallet address?

I think it's fake bitcoin, because on the faucet we only get 0.0000006 while the transaction fees are more expensive than that. So the small amount given by the faucet is fake bitcoin?
It is not fake, but it is just a waste of time.

If faucet give you 6 satoshi every hour, that is 0.00000144 BTC in a day, which is $0.0504 in a day if bitcoin is $35000. Can you see that yourself that it is an absolute waste of time. You will have to wait long before you can be able to reach the minimum withdrawal. But some people are patient, have no work, but able to have several accounts with different IPs for just to turn the small amount of bitcoin to something big. As for me, I see it as a waste of time and energy.

Yes, you are right, but it was a great experience for me because from the faucet I got to know bitcoin. After I didn't get anything on the faucet, I started following airdop on telegram, and again it was crap because I didn't get anything. Until finally I found out about this forum. Maybe that's my path to this forum. Btw, I found out about Bitcoin during the Covid pandemic and I was WFH so I had enough time to do it all. But when I think about it now, it seems like it was a waste of time  Grin


That sounds bad, so we also don't know how much bitcoin they have? including casinos and centralized exchanges also the same? the numbers written on our account are just fake bitcoins? can they use the bitcoins we send them for their needs? As long as there are no major withdrawals on the exchange, no one will know that our bitcoins there have been used. Could that be true?

Many exchanges them selves have said that they actually store the coins you store on them on self custodian wallets this indicates clearly that it is merely numbers that you are working with and just few bitcoins are on the platform.

Yes they can use it for there needs, think of them as traditional banks, it is your money stored there that use to give out loans or use to go into certain businesses because they feel not all of you will need that money at the same time. That’s why when am exchange crashes and refunds is ask for they start delaying and making excuses like the money will be paid in batches, simply because they don’t have all of it with them.

You should read on this current FTX saga and you will appreciate more the coming of bitcoin, as with it you can be your own bank

Ah... Yes, I just thought that if the exchange did something like that, it would be the same as what conventional banks do. As you said, I also know a little about conventional banking which uses customer savings to lend to other customers. When there is a large withdrawal of money, the bank will definitely go bankrupt and will not be able to disburse all of the customer's money because the bank doesn't have it.

That sounds bad, so we also don't know how much bitcoin they have? including casinos and centralized exchanges also the same? the numbers written on our account are just fake bitcoins? can they use the bitcoins we send them for their needs? As long as there are no major withdrawals on the exchange, no one will know that our bitcoins there have been used. Could that be true?

Well, now after the whole FTX thing, many exchanges have shared their hot/cold wallets addresses, so people can see how much money the exchange has. Now, is there a proper way to know whether that amount in those addresses equals exactly the amount of user's holdings? No, not for most exchanges anyway.

So what happens to the FTX exchange that experiences problems like this? I heard that FTX was a big exchange that went bankrupt but I don't know the root of the problem because at the time it happened I wasn't on this forum yet. I was interested in reading the FTX case.
536  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Does Faucet give real bitcoins every few hours? on: November 01, 2023, 07:52:57 AM
Yes, that's correct. They can't send you "real bitcoin" whenever you click the "claim" button because the fees for that would be higher than the amount they're sending, and you'd also need to deal with confirmation times. It's pointless with a custodial service anyway.

This is no different than the approach exchanges and casinos use. It's just a number in their database that keeps changing, and once you make a withdrawal request, that's when they send you the funds.

That sounds bad, so we also don't know how much bitcoin they have? including casinos and centralized exchanges also the same? the numbers written on our account are just fake bitcoins? can they use the bitcoins we send them for their needs? As long as there are no major withdrawals on the exchange, no one will know that our bitcoins there have been used. Could that be true?
537  Economy / Micro Earnings / Does Faucet give real bitcoins every few hours? on: November 01, 2023, 07:37:17 AM
I know this faucet longer than this forum, the name of the faucet is freebitxxx. It's best if we don't need to mention it clearly because that's not the issue I'm going to ask about.

So in a few hours the faucet will give us a very small amount of free bitcoins. The question is, is it real bitcoin? or is it just fake bitcoins and when we have met the minimum withdrawal limit, they just send real bitcoins to our withdrawal wallet address?

I think it's fake bitcoin, because on the faucet we only get 0.0000006 while the transaction fees are more expensive than that. So the small amount given by the faucet is fake bitcoin?
538  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: November 01, 2023, 07:21:29 AM
Btw tetapi jika harga bitcoin tetap dalam kondisi murah dalam rentang waktu yang lama, misal sampe 2 tahun apakah kemungkinan para miner ini akan bertahan gan? mengingat katanya biaya operasinal untuk mining itu cukup mahal.
Dari pengamatan ane terhadap pengalaman yang sudah-sudah, biasanya mereka akan stop mining. Namun tetap, masih ada miner besar yang melanjutkan aktifitas mining mereka, karena mungkin cukup worth, apa lagi ada beberapa miner besar yang tinggal dan hidup di kota yang cost listriknya rendah sehingga walau tidak begitu profit, tapi cukuplah untuk hidup dan sebagian BTC pasti mereka hold untuk beberapa tahun ke depan menjelasng halving berikutnya (2028)

Jadi biaya listrik sangat signifikan ya gan terhadap menghasilan para minner? Adakah negara yang memang bener-bener memiliki biaya listrik yang murah? Kalo misal semua miner ga lagi mining gara-gara harga btc terlalu murah sehingga para miner merugi maka bitcoin bisa down kan gan?

Ane jadi penasaran seberapa banyak yang bisa di hasilkan dalam sehari atau sebulan jika melakukan mining. Apa disini ada thread yang menjelaskan hal itu gan? ane cari-cari ga ketemu2
ya ente hitung sendiri aja, gampang kok, kalau tiap 10 menit menghasilkan 1 block (6.25 BTC), dalam 1 hari (24 jam, dijadikan menit lalu dibagi dengan angka 10 menit), kalau untuk sebulan ya x 30 hari dengan dihitung per-satuan menit.

Maksudnya kalo kita punya komputer miner gan, kira-kira penghasilan harian atu bulanannya itu nyampe berapa? Bukan hitung-hitungan secara global,  ane liat harga miner untuk btc juga muahal. Terus kalo mining yang pake GPU, itu bener-bener ga perlu miner yang khusus untuk btc? hanya komputer biasa gitu gan? (eh tapi sorry gan, keknya ane melenceng terlalu jauh dari topik)
539  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Politik Dinasti dan Nepotisme on: October 31, 2023, 06:28:31 PM
Ane kaget dengan model koalisi hari ini gan, Pertama ane kaget anis bisa berpasangan sama cak imin, padahal anis sebelumnya reprentasi dari PKS yang cukup bersitegang dengan PKB. Kemudian prabowo tiba-tiba berpasangan dengan gibran, dan adanya konflik antara PDIP dengan Jokowi. Wah bakal rame ini keknya pemilu depan dan masih sulit di prediksi karena tidak ada paslon yang memiliki elektabilitas paling menonjol. Viks si pasti 2 putaran pilpress

Untuk kasus gibran, jujur saya kaget juga gan bisa tiba-tiba ada peninjauan ulang undang-undang, kemudian di setujui dan langsung berpasangan dengan prabowo, sebelum itu juga kaesang mendadak jadi ketum partai. Seperti jokowi sudah memetakan ini jauh jauh hari. Ane gak nyangka aja kalo jokowi bakal sejauh ini dalam merencanakan, karena dari awal tidak terbaca sama sekali. Dan ane pikir mungkin itu kehebatan politik jokowi yang diam diam das des langsung jadi tanpa perlu dibuat heboh di awal.

Terkait politik dinasti, ane pikir pasti ada lah pengaruh jokowi didalamnya, meskipun ane ga punya bukti apapun hanya pandangan ane pribadi
Awalnya ane juga kaget gan ,benar seperti yang agan bilang itu diatas. Saya rasa rakyak di bawah juga merasakan hal yang sama ada keanehan di politik kita ini sedangkan para politisi-politisi itu pikirnya "ah cuman sebentar nanti juga dingin lagi" . Memang benar menurut saya juga ini akan rame sebentar saja kalau tidak ada yang menggugat. Cuman ini akan menjadi catatan sejarah yang tidak akan pernah hilang .

Ho'oh gan, Bahkan belum lama ini ane ada pertemuan sama anggota dewan dari PKB, katanya dia sendiri juga kaget kalo koalisi akan menjadi seperti sekarang. Katanya ini adalah manuver dadakan karena ga ada yang kepikiran juga kalo anis bakalan berpasangan sama cak imin. Di masarakat bawah tentu pada kaget gan karena koalisi ini. Atau mungkin cak imin udah tau kalau prabowo bakal ambil gibran jadi langsung melakukan manuver

Jika prabowo dan gibran menang maka kemungkinan akan dingin, tetapi kalo yang jadi ganjar bisa jadi malah anget lagi karena perseteruan PDIP dengan jokowi sehingga kasus aturan umur dalam pemilu bisa di ungkit kembali atau di gugat lagi agar kembali ke peraturan sebelumnya. Ah, bagaimanapun sejarah akan ditulis oleh pemenang gan, kita mah cuma penonton, sukur dapet amplop kalo kaga ya udah nasibnya  Grin
540  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am open to learning new things as a beginner on: October 31, 2023, 06:20:19 PM
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