Though this is not exactly what you have asked for I thought it worth responding. Options is something we are considering adding to what we offer and I would be interested in knowing exactly what you were looking for? Is it puts and calls on bitcoin price? Currently we offer margin trading of US and UK stocks, ETFs and futures using bitcoin as collateral margin. There are currently over 250 markets available to trade on our website. We will also be rolling out more services after we release our new platform in a few weeks. The head office for our company is in Geneva Switzerland and not the US. If you would like to discuss this further have a look at the website https://firstglobalcredit.com and by all means contact me by email, phone or SKYPE. I think all details are available on the website. If I can help you I will. Regards, Marcie D Terman |
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The way you learn is by doing.
My company has a demonstration account where you can practice your trading and then move into real trading when you are ready. Even better we are running a trading competition right now that gives live trading account prizes. There's nothing like a real money prize to stimulate you into being profitable.
Its at firstglobalcredit.com and there are lots of people playing. Sometimes share ideas on our Facebook page.
Come play!
Marcie
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Skip the whole bitcoin route.
Own and hold a few coins, and throw the rest of your money in a traditional treasury note or mutual fund that gives low interest but secure.
I think I disagree with you. If you look dispassionately at the position of US government debt the dollar and the mutual funds that are held in it no longer seem like quality to me. And I LOVE America. I think it's much smarter to diversify your cash into multiple currencies including bitcoin. Bitcoin creates an environment where governments can't mess with cash like they used to. If people have options and the government starts doing the quantitative easing thing, WHY would you keep your money in dollars and take the hit? Move it into bitcoin which the government CANNOT mess with. Don't you think? |
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Regulation as evidenced by the 2008 global crises is no assurance of the safety of your capital. However, your question is absolutely reasonable and for large accounts (I may have said this before) 90% of your holdings are maintained by a third party custodian with 2 out of 3 key access. There are several we have used and that could be discussed. If this request is serious (as I do not like to bother my customers unnecessarily) I can arrange contact with some of our customers that have worked with us for over a year.
If you go to our site you can see our board including myself and Jon Matonis of the Bitcoin Foundation. Have a look at my linkedin profile and you will see I also run a data security business in London.
I hope you will decide to work with us. It would really please me if you found us to be useful.
Marcie
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I see the link to lock the topic. I must admit I hardly ever have time to engage in the forums and though I have been a director of First Global for close to 3 years I don't know very much about the forums. Could you explain what 'locking' is and why are you recommending it?
Thank you.
Marcie
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I know that there is no money to be deposited in the competition but i might also add my funds if i like your platform especially if i make profits that is why i need to know if your company is regulated or not.
I know you are registered company.
At present Hong Kong does not require bitcoin financial service companies and exchanges to be regulated. I would refer you to the statement made by the Hong Kong Secretary of Financial Services on 25th March 2015 which stated that there was, currently, no requirement to “regulate virtual commodities trading or to prohibit people from participating in such activiites.” See http://www.news.gov.hk/en/categories/finance/html/2015/03/20150325_150920.shtmlFor further information on our security policies I would refer you to: https://www.firstglobalcredit.com/Security. |
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If this is a limited promotion it might be real however, long term this is obviously an untenable business model. Getting attention. Good for you!
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An easy way to lend is through bitfinex. BTC returns about 2% right now. Fiat loans much more but it fluctuates. Little tip. No reason to lock in your loan for more than a few days. If you lock it in for a month and then the rate goes up while you are inside of the month, you lose money. But you can also keep your loan rolling over and reinvested and take advantage of the rate if it goes up. Of course it might go down. Its a calculated risk.
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this is very interesting, thanks for sharing. i have question about the service. you are lending to users on the site right? can they withdraw it after they take the loan or is it blocked within the exchanger? No the money does not leave the site. It is used for people who want to short a market. The money has to come from somewhere? That would be you adding liquidity to the platform. The borrower is hoping the market will go in their direction more than the cost of the interest on the loan. Volatility and volume change the return you get on the loan. Also. It won't be for a while. But First Global Credit will have a passive investment option that will allow you to generate a return without the need to direct your investment. Right now its all using bitcoin as collateral to invest in mainstream companies like Google, Apple, EasyJet, BetFair. Or the S&P, NASDAQ, other exchanges. Jon Matonis is on our board and the company has been trading since 2014. But I am delighted I knew something useful for you.  |
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First Global Credit provides a multi-market trading platform that lets you use your bitcoins as investment margin. This can be a terrifically powerful tool because it lets you maximize the potential for your digital currency holdings by using them as an active investment tool while also using them to FX trade against dollars, Sterling CHF or EUR. - trade over200 US and UK stock markets
- trade over a dozen geographic and sector ETFs
- trade over a dozen futures markets like mini S&P, mini gold, mini copper, heating oil, corn, cocoa, coffee and natural gas
- Also use your bitcoin margin for FX trading at the same time you are trading markets
- And get 2% annualized interest on any account over 10 bitcoins!
We are currently running a FREE trading competition that yields 4 live, funded trading account prizes! https://www.firstglobalcredit.com/register for a free competition account. |
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Invest in over 250 US and UK stocks also Futures while BTC FX trading your margin @ www.firstglobalcredit.com
Commission: 0.1% Finance Fee: annual fed rate + 2% First Global Credit has been trading since 2014 based out of our head office in Geneva and Hong Kong. You can deposit bitcoin and use them as margin (without selling them) to trade stocks like Apple, Microsoft, Google, Tesla, Twitter, Betfair, Easyjet and 250 others, ETFs like Chinese large cap stocks, Brazil stocks, Mexico and Futures like Mini S&P, mini Gold, mini copper, heating oil, natural gas, corn, sugar, coffee and cocoa. It is liquid, backed by actual market positions. Also, we pay interest on all accounts over 10BTC. Accounts over 200 btc can opt for their investment capital to be held in a custodial account with two out of three signatories needed to move capital. My partners come from the banking industry and Jon Matonis is on our board of directors. Marcie D Terman Communications Director www.firstglobalcredit.commarcie.terman@firstglobalcredit.com
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Hey Neotrix,
I am kind of curious about it being in HongKong.
My understanding is that eCurrency is illegal in China and HongKong?
Actually Hong Kong currently provides a special dispensation for digital currency companies. They are creating a fairly light touch environment to see what happens. Probably won't remain that way, but it is perfectly legal at present. The issue lies in the fact that I believe Crypto-trade is saying they will accept fiat deposits. Then you need to be regulated, which is certainly possible though a legal necessity. M |
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First Global Credit gives bitcoin holders access to world wide stock markets without selling your bitcoin to do it. Instead you use your bitcoin as collateral to secure trades in stocks like google, twitter, tesla, Betfair and about 200 others. (We are always adding more and verified clients can request that their choices be added) You also can trade futures like gold, S&P, heating oil, natural gas, corn, sugar, coffee. At the same time if your account is over 10BTC interest is paid even if you are using your BTC to back trades. Fiat brokers no longer give interest on trading accounts! First Global Credit does. You can start a free demo account at https://www.firstglobalcredit.com/register.We are running a trading competition right now that give live funded account prizes. Have a look at this page for more information. https://www.firstglobalcredit.com/competition/Trading-CompetitionsPlease do not hesitate to let me know if I can e of further help. Marcie |
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That is a photograph of Singapore, well spotted. The head office for FGC is a SARL in Geneva (XBT Corp SARL) Operational office and servers in London and customer accounts held in Hong Kong. Regulation is in the game plan for the company but we are operating under the dispensation provided by the Hong Kong government, so we do not have to be regulated as of yet. It is in the game plan and we do run the company in a way that will make it possible to be regulated. My background is in providing FCA compliant DR solutions for financial service companies in London and I have run this company for 12 years. My partners all come from professional metal trading backgrounds and Jon Matonis (of the Bitcoin Foundation) sits on our board. To play in the competition there is no money involved. Though the prize is a live funded trading account. If I can be of further service do not hesitate to contact me. Marcie D Terman Communications Director First Global Credit www.firstglobalcredit.com |
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will try join this competition, wish me luck  I wish you big luck and a 4 leaf clover! MDT |
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I think getkeza is a really a cool idea however, as I understand its a relatively new service? I think spreading ones investment over a number of portals will mitigate counterparty risk. And as the First Global (trading since 2014) has no minimum investment, also has both US and UK stocks. it would be possible to take a position in gold futures, or Google, or Betfair or S&P Futures or Tesla on www.firstglobalcredit.com website. FGC also gives you the ability to move the bitcoin securing the trades in and out of fiat at the same time giving 2 bites of the 'profit apple'. That could also be a useful part of the strategy as well? As might bitbond or BTCJam, especially while the bitcoin price is trading in a range therefore limiting the problem of having repayments being greatly out of kilter with the initial debt profile. Since the poster says she will need the bitcoin for development of her wallet, liquidity is an important issue for her and having access to over 250 mainstream markets like firstglobalcredit platform provides might be helpful because all the markets are liquid. |
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Investments for your bitcoin can generally be separated into several categories. (1) High risk, high return short-term trading strategy ("buy low, sell high"): But can you read the market well enough to generate the best trading strategy? For every buyer of a coin, there is a seller, so who is doing it wrong? (2) Moderate risk, moderate return portfolio investment strategy e.g. Keza ( http://www.getkeza.com) as an investment platform. But you need to invest time in selecting the right investment portfolios based on the composition, underlying beta and future outlook. (3) Low risk, low return secured lending strategy (collateralised lending). But need to vet borrowers based on past track record too. Avoid HYIP, Ponzi schemes, and fanciful, unrealistic promises. http://themerkle.com/bitcoin-investment-startup-keza-unveils-ios-beta-app/https://www.producthunt.com/tech/kezahttp://getkeza.com/ (It's free to apply for a Keza account) So basically you are saying that critical thought needs to be applied to any investment strategy? Your reasoning is absolutely sound but not really the point. The key, I think, is not looking for one good place to invest your bitcoin but looking at your criteria for investment. For instance, I need liquidity or I cannot tolerate losing principal. Then look to split your holdings over a variety of portals, also taking into account counterparty risk! Getkeza might be a part of that strategy. Taking a position in gold futures, or Google, or Betfair or S&P Futures or Tesla on www.firstglobalcredit.com website might also be a sound addition to the portfolio. FGC also gives you the ability to move the bitcoin securing the trades in and out of fiat at the same time giving 2 bites of the 'profit apple'. That could also be a useful part of the strategy as well? As might bitbond or BTCJam, especially while the bitcoin price is trading in a range therefore limiting the problem of having repayments being greatly out of kilter with the initial debt profile. I think liquidity is a key issue for many investors and having access to over 250 mainstream markets like the firstglobalcredit platform provides might be very helpful. Getkeza is a cool concept however. |
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You can retain your bitcoin and use them as margin to trade stocks, futures and gold on www.firstglobalcredit.com. We have been in business since 2014 and Jon Matonis is on our board. We also give interest on accounts over 10btc. So you can trade on the value of your bitcoins and collect interest at the same time. If you would like to discuss this we can connect on SKYPE or via marcie.terman@firstglobalcredit.comGood luck to you. Marcie |
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You can use your bitcoin capital as margin to trade on First Global Credit. 5:1 leverage on stock trading 2:1 leverage on bitcoin FX trading 1:1 leverage on gold, index and commodity futures Just an example of what is available: UK StocksBetfair Barclays EasyJet Ladbrokes a dozen more available US Stocks There are about 150 US and UK stocks currently available to trade. Some give dividends which are added to your account balance if you are long them. Apple Amazon Activision Blizzard Boeing ebay Estee Lauder Facebook FireEye Oracle Red Hat Starbucks Sketchers Silicon Laboratories Tesla Motors Trip Advisor Twitter Time Warner Yelp Yahoo Zebra Technology and about 150 more ETFsiShares China Large Cap iShares Germany Dow Jones Industrial Average ETF futuresVIX mini S&P mini e-gold NASDAQ soyabeans corn sugar We can also add stocks from about 25 countries. Certain futures contracts if they are liquid enough. Though we do a risk check on anything before adding it. Its free to register an account.The price we get in the market is passed directly to you. We charge a commission for trading, similar in price to mainstream brokerages with discounts for high volume traders. |
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The company I work for First Global Credit has been trading since 2014 based out of our head office in Geneva and Hong Kong. You can deposit bitcoin and use them as margin (without selling them) to trade stocks like Google, Tesla, Twitter, Betfair and 200 others, ETFs like Chinese large cap stocks, Brazil stocks, Mexico and Futures like Mini S&P, mini Gold, mini copper, heating oil, natural gas, corn, sugar, coffee and cocoa. It is liquid, backed by actual market positions and therefore much safer than many CFD sites. Also, we pay interest on all accounts over 10BTC. Accounts over 200 btc can opt for their investment capital to be held in a custodial account with two out of three signatories needed to move capital. My partners come from the banking industry and Jon Matonis is on our board of directors. If this is suitable for your needs I would suggest a SKYPE call with my CEO Gavin Smith to discuss how we may work together to help you achieve your goals. Marcie D Terman Communications Director www.firstglobalcredit.commarcie.terman@firstglobalcredit.comWe have been trading since Oct 2014 |
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