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521  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 11:14:10 PM
Sweden's Minister for Foreign Affairs, Carl Bildt @carlbildt  · 

We are now evidently seeing fighting between regular Russian and regular Ukrainian forces in Eastern Ukraine. There is a word for this.

#‎RussiainvadedUkraine‬ ‪#‎UkraineUnderAttack‬ ‪#‎StopTerrorussia‬
522  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
Hey Russia, Canada's government made this helpful map for you

After Russian soldiers found their way into Ukraine “by accident”, Canada’s delegation to Nato produced this map, and helpfully shared it on Twitter.
“Geography can be tough. Here’s a guide for Russian soldiers who keep getting lost & ‘accidentally’ entering Ukraine,” the delegation wrote.



Somewhat confusingly, to Russian eyes anyway, the disputed region of Crimea, which Russia annexed this year to international condemnation, is highlighted as Ukrainian territory.
Moscow denies directly intervening in eastern Ukraine, where pro-Russian separatists have been fighting an insurgency against the government in Kiev.

    Geography can be tough. Here’s a guide for Russian soldiers who keep getting lost & ‘accidentally’ entering #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/RF3H4IXGSp
    — Canada at NATO (@CanadaNATO) August 27, 2014

http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/hey-russia-canadas-government-made-this-helpful-map-for-you--xJ1_cu0c7e
523  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
Poland: Russian Army Operating in Ukraine

 "Nobody can seriously accept talk of "separatists" in Ukraine anymore," Donald Tusk told parliament, adding that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization has over the past day gathered "very solid confirmation" that the Russia military has entered Ukraine.
"The information is from NATO and confirmed by our intelligence, and is basically unambiguous," he said.

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/poland-russian-army-operating-in-ukraine-20140827-00084
524  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 09:41:05 PM
In St. Peterburg brought about 100 wounded troops

http://www.svoboda.org/content/article/26551544.html


More than 1 thousand Russians dead or wounded in Ukraine

Russians created Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/554080374717721/) to exchange information about missing, dead and wounded Russian soldiers in Ukraine.
525  Other / Politics & Society / Re: World War III on: August 27, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
Canada Concerned About Russia’s Military Expansion in Arctic

According to a report in the Canada Free Press, the Arctic threat from Russia is very real. Not only Canada countries like Finland and Estonia have also reported airspace violations by Russian military planes.

They all feel that Putin wanted to rebuild significant portions of the former Soviet military prowess. Part of the Russian planinclude, upgrading the Temp Aerodrome at the Kotelny Island to receive Ilyushin Il-76 military transport planes. Secondly, the Tiksi Aerodrome is getting developed as a staging base for long-range Soviet bombers. More military camps are being planned to station ground Russian forces in the Arctic.

Recently, the Russian Navy hoisted its flag on a remote Arctic island, some 50 kilometres north of Chukotka to develop the island as a base for the Russian Pacific Fleet. Yet another base was opened in Novosibirsk Islands, last year. Regular Arctic drills of Russia are a common sight, using MiG-31 planes and Tu-95 long-range bombers. Helicopters specially designed for the Arctic are being tested.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/563977/20140826/canada-russia-arctic.htm#.U_46Sg1u6GA.twitter

526  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 09:03:09 PM
Journo's film #Russia weapons convoy, SAM's using cover of darkness to cross #Ukraine border







video: http://www.tvn24.pl/wiadomosci-ze-swiata,2/artyleria-wozy-opancerzone-i-bron-przeciwlotnicza-ruchy-rosjan-przed-kamera-tvn24,460025.html
527  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 05:09:51 PM
Result of #Russia aggression: #Finland to sign Memorandum of Understanding with #NATO

http://vnk.fi/ajankohtaista/tiedotteet/tiedote/en.jsp?oid=423180
528  Other / Politics & Society / Re: World War III on: August 27, 2014, 05:08:10 PM
Result of #Russia aggression: #Finland to sign Memorandum of Understanding with #NATO

Cabinet Committee on Foreign and Security Policy issued statement on signing of Memorandum of Understanding on Host Nation Support between Finland and NATO

http://vnk.fi/ajankohtaista/tiedotteet/tiedote/en.jsp?oid=423180
529  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 04:27:18 PM
Let's be clear about this: Russia is invading Ukraine right now

In July, in the weeks before boneheaded rebels shot down a civilian airliner and killed 298 people, Russia began shipping them high-grade military technology, including surface-to-air missile systems. Shortly after the airliner shoot-down, Russian artillery in Russia began firing at Ukrainian military forces in Ukraine — an overt act of war. Then NATO said it caught Russia sending an "incursion" force across the border, which Ukraine claimed to destroy. Later, according to the rebel leader in Ukraine, 30 Russian tanks and up to 1,200 Russian-trained troops did manage to cross. By August 22nd, Russian artillery units were reportedly crossing the border into Ukraine, and a few days later, Ukraine captured "rebels" who admitted to being Russian soldiers sent under formal order

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/27/6069415/lets-be-clear-about-this-russia-is-invading-ukraine-right-now
530  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 03:53:09 PM

Wow. Disdain for intellectuals and the arts? Can you give an example? I didn't realise it was so bad. Although it does seem predictable with the criteria spelled out like that.


Side note: I would estimate that the US is almost as bad as Russia for most of those criteria. Although their love of fame, brands, and endorsements (cult of personality), would appear to counteract any cultural dislike of intellectuals.

Cult of personality: Well, maybe a kind of.

Single-party system: Not even close to truth.

Identification of enemies as a Unifiying Cause: Half-truth here, it's correct for ukraine too.

Militarism: Not even close to truth, there were no "anti-terrorist operation" or illegal mobilization. By the way, our president and government officials don't pose in camouflage, as Poroshenko and Turchinov like to do. If you're speaking about Crimea then remember that Sevastopol was annexed by Ukraine in 1993 without any referendum.

Controlled mass-media: Not even close to truth. The most of federal TV channels are private owned, except for 1st channel, 51% of which is owned by state. Despite ITAR-TASS news agency is 100% state-owned there are also some 100% private-owned new agencies such as Interfax. In the Ukraine almost all media outlets are owned directly by government officials. 100% of 5th channel is owned by Poroshenko, 100% of ATN and 1+1 TV channels are owned by Ihor Kolomoyski, etc.

Obsession with National Security: Half-Truth here. Ukrainian Security Service see russian spy or GRU agent in any person, even in your cat.

Disdain of Intellectualsnand Arts: WTF?


Religion and government are interwened: Not even close to truth. For examples you need to know that Russian Orthodox Church doesn't recognize independence of South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Republic of Crimea. They consider them as parts of Georgia and Ukraine respectively.

Fraudulent Elections: Not even funny to compare.

So the final results are:

Exact match: 1 (11.11%)
Half-Truth: 2 (22.22%)
Not even close to truth: 4 (44.44%)
Unclassified: 2

You know what does it mean.

@Balthazar " Disdain of Intellectualsnand Arts: WTF? " - Soviet style slander campaign, analogous to the anti-Sakharov campaign of 1973 and the Stalinist period - Russian Rock Star Makarevich Slammed in State TV Smear Campaign

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russian-rock-star-makarevich-slammed-by-state-run-tv/505907.html
531  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 02:52:15 PM
Stavropolsk Committee of Mothers of Soldiers (Russia) has put together a lost if 400 killed and wounded Russian soldiers. Four hundred



http://tvrain.ru/articles/komitet_soldatskih_materej_sostavil_spisok_iz_400_ranenyh_i_ubityh_rossijskih_soldat-374625/
532  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
Russian Journalists Attacked on Fact-Seeking Assignment About Ukraine

Somebody does not seem to like journalists asking questions about the deaths of Russian paratroopers allegedly killed in eastern Ukraine.
Russian journalists Vladimir Romensky from the independent Dozhd television channel and Ilya Vasyunin from the Russkaya Planeta news site said they were attacked, threatened and told to leave town when they arrived Tuesday at a cemetery in Russia's Pskov region where at least two of the paratroopers had been buried a day earlier. Other journalists reported similar incidents throughout the day.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/505973.html
533  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 02:04:19 PM
ruSSian thugs - Putin's r'aid' convoy stole a #Lugansk factory, #Ukraine & set it back up in #Chuvashia Russia!

http://youtu.be/DcgaxlLsgUo  



Луганский машиностроительный завод переезжает в Чувашию http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1923359

534  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 01:29:57 PM
No no, ruSSia not sending troops to Ukraine

Parents of arrested in Ukraine 331 paratroopers regiment

Родители задержанных на Украине десантников 331 полка https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZMLhVehjk

"Give me back my child!". Mother 'detained in Ukraine " troops asked for help from Putin

 «Отдайте мне моего ребенка!». Матери «задержанных на Украине» десантников попросили помощи у Путина
http://top.rbc.ru/society/27/08/2014/945396.shtml
535  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 12:35:01 AM
Video Shows Column of Russian Vehicles, Manned By Chechen Fighters, On Ukraine's Border
In the video below, an enormous column of Russian military vehicles is seen in an unidentified location. The dialogue suggests that they are waiting to enter Ukraine. We have not yet been able to geolocate the video, but we note that there is a column of smoke visible at around 24 seconds in.
The men speaking in the video identify themselves as Chechens.
Amongst the vast quantities of military hardware seen are T-90 tanks, MT-LB armoured personnel carriers and 2S19 Msta self-propelled artillery.
The men are speaking in Chechen, however the uploader has provided a Russian translation in the closed captions of the video. We are currently attempting to verify the Chechen-language content of the video.
We have, however, made a translation of the Russian closed captions:
[Cameraman]:These guys are going to go on the attack to bring out those who have been left inside.
This whole host is going in to bring out all the dead and wounded.
You can't see the beginning and you can't see the end [of the column]. Yes, invisible.
We're ready to go in.
Allahu akbar...
Everything is in the hands of the Almighty. We will try to return home. And if we do not return forgive us. We are full of courage to go forward.
Allahu akbar...
These are Chechen lads here too.
These tankers are Chechens.
[Tank crewman]: The war is underway, we'll make the Ukrainians shit themselves.
And all these guys are ready to cross the Terek.
And we will rip apart those fascists.
Protect us Almighty from all evil.
[Cameraman]:Allahu akbar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCP8qvoYtU

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-190-russian-paratroopers-captured-in-ukraine/#3971
536  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 27, 2014, 12:28:27 AM

History repeats itself. The same type of scum


537  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 26, 2014, 04:37:19 PM


@mfa_russia more RF troops reported lost in #Sverdlovsk #Ukraine today. Consular assist needed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL-yofb3HzU
538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 26, 2014, 03:11:51 PM
In the time of the U.S.S.R., it was the people in the East that had a completely idiotic, distorted vision of what the West was up to; the iron curtain meant their "information" was garbage.

But now...in the info age, it's amazing to see people stupid enough to fall for government lies (this time Washington's).  You can crack a history book too.  Some of this stuff is so dumb it's hard to believe how any of you can believe what you're saying.

No one in their right mind thinks Russia would invade secretly, or with a few dozen armoured cars.   Russia doesn't start wars, it finishes them.  If they invaded, you would know it (it wouldn't be a secret invasion with journalists claiming it's just aid).   And the Ukrainian army would be finished within the hour.

And you'd be left with your meaningless talk.

wars started by ruSSia

539  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 26, 2014, 03:01:52 PM
Mother of the missing #Russian trooper asks #Ukrainians for forgiveness



Head of Saratov Union of Soldiers' Mothers Lidiya Sviridova doesn't know what will happen with Russian soldiers, participating in military action in Ukraine, as she told at today's press-conference at Svobodniye Novosti IA, devoted to Russian troopers allegedly killed and imprisoned in Ukraine.

According to her, it is not known, what the attitude to the veterans of this military action will be. De facto, they became hostages of the political situation. She also advised parents of missing trooper Ilya Maksimov to go to Pskov "to find out the truth" from the management of the local division, and if they insist on exercises near Rostov, to go there by themselves.

Trooper's mother Lubov Maksimova asked Ukraine to forgive her son, because he participates in military action.

'If Ilya's guilty towards Ukraine, I'm asking to forgive him. He's a serviceman, he observes the rules, if you have him, I'm ready to come and take him. Forgive him, and forgive me,' she said.

Summarising the meeting, Lidiya Sviridova asked parents of Russian servicemen to make sure their children were alive.

'The games are over. Find your sons today. Make sure there’re serving at the place they were sent to. Today you must forget about your domestic cares and make efforts to find your sons', she said and thanked participants and organisers of the press-conference, who became 'the only support for the Maksimovs'.

Sviridova also said, she was ready to come to Ukraine together with other social activists 'to apologise' and to hold negotiations with Ukrainian minister of defence. She promised that after the trip she would strive for investigation of how servicemen of one country could get to the territory of the neighbouring state and for punishing the guilty.

Source: http://fn-volga.ru/news/view/id/22523
540  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: August 26, 2014, 02:47:46 PM

#russia is preparing for a large-scale "peacekeeping" operation



http://www.ng.ru/armies/2014-08-25/1_peacemakers.html
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