I know it's a little OT, but anyone here involved in selling-goods also noticing a strong decline in sales? Seems to me this is not a crypto (collectible) specific occurrence. Spoke to a few vendors recently (from different countries, very different products), they were all complaining about a very noticeable/unusual drop in sales that started about 2 months ago.

Okay, pretty cool. I think in this case an open-dime or just pub-address version makes more sense.

Some other cool, game-theoretic facts about a 51% attack on the Bitcoin network, besides the already mentioned (astronomical) initial costs:
- As soon as the network is attacked, the Bitcoin price would probably drop by a huge factor, so even double spending your own transactions will most likely not make up for your initial costs AT ALL
- You still don't and never will controll any private keys that you didn't already control before the attack
- You can't change previous blocks. If you really control MUCH MORE than 50%, maybe you can afford to even rewrite a few of the latest blocks, but the digital-pyramid that the Bitcoin blockchain is, will have maybe handful of its hundrets-of-thousands of stones changed, the rest will still stand unchanged.

There were already good answers in this thread, including taxation and control etc.

I would like to add to this: One of the main reasons for major disagreements among all three players is the fact they have completely different underlying reasons for their actions.
- Banks are profit oriented organisations, tangled between legislation and their aim to pull max profit from potential customers.
- Goverments should ideally serve their citizens, however the reality is, most of them try to keep and increase control over them instead.
- Bitcoin is a liberation from both, exaggerated govermental control as well as greedy banksters and associated big corps. It is decentralized (!= banks), it is borderless (!=governments), it is open-source (!= banks & governments), uncensorable and most importantly out of any direct control from both banks and governments.

Just looking at these massive differences or even opposing internal motivations makes it clear why there is disagreement among all three of them.

More than valid question here. It's a topic that has been discussed a lot, especially recently.
Buyer funded is always the recommendation when you want to have minimum risk.

Answer with personal bias: There shouldn't be much reason to take the increased risk of a funded item. It also goes against everything that Bitcoin originally stands for.
That said, I love to have a collectible that combines both, crypto and physical world in one piece. If you load yourself and want to resell, then the next buyer has to rely on you not storing the private key somewhere else, too. Unless you have known someone personally for years, it's probably easier to trust a high reputation maker that has been in business for years. That said, recent events (the big yucking, Titan mint issue and previous scams) have shown that this is and always was a high risk route to go.
Don't wanna give any investment advice. Personally I think the safest way to go is with buyer funded items and if you go maker funded, get some rare OG items only.
One more thing to consider: if there isn't a rug-pull scam ending, you still have an extra risk of a private key misprint or bad ink / paper combo making the private key unreadable.

Incredible piece of art. Whoever has the sats to spare will have a timeless masterpiece in their hands (Dad-pun intended).

Will there be a holo with private keys attached or is it inteded to just carry a public key to an private key stored somewhere else?

Watching. How many of these are out there?
Are there ANY other platinum crypto collectibles along this wonderful rarity?

Good luck with the auction, reverse is a cool idea.

@owl: True, Platinum didn't appreciate in value like gold did, but still it's probably the only Bitcoin themed collectible made of platinum.

Pains me to hear that it seems like all crypto collectible scammers have gotten away with it so far.
Fully agree with your statement, ChiBitCTy. Luckily I never owned any 2fa Titans. However I do understand that if you are only slightly affected (let's say by losing one 0.1 2fa value) and you have a busy life with family and work etc eating most of your time already, you think twice before entering probably expensive and very time consuming legal action. That said, given the value of some of these coins and also the fact that some folks bought a bunch of them, it really makes you wonder.
Just bringing one of these scums to justice would defintely set a nice precedent for any physical maker out there.

Thanks for sharing, know a few folks who will be very interested to see this!
Can only repeat my message: Great to see such a well designed pamphlet with a lot of attention to detail. Good stuff.

Hey there, will try to read the sample you put up within this week if I manage to.

Did you know there is a recent release of a book called "Bitcoin: die orange Pille" (almost the same title like your book: "Bitcoin: the orange pill") from German author and book critic Ijoma Mangold. See: https://www.amazon.de/Die-orange-Pille-Warum-Bitcoin-ebook/dp/B09XY5ZRML
Are you from the US and were you aware of this very similar named book on Bitcoin?

In any case, welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing.

Happy BTCitcoin-pizza day (even though a little late).
Strangely, this year I didn't see much new articles about it nor any mentions outside the very core-Bitcoiner-news.
We probably have to wait until the next massive bull market for mainstream media to pick up on any of this Bitcoin lore. Let's see, my guess is May 22nd, 2024 could already be different.

You already mentioned it briefly with "they will be watching those addresses" - Which I think is the main issue here, chain-analysis will probably work well to connect all the dots and even find "hidden" keys. Maybe not the private ones to directly have access, but watching via the public addresses.
Except for the 1%, maybe 2% of folks that really know what they are doing, I would guess that the vast majority of people storing their BTC does not do so in a truely private / hidden way.

It does sound like a bad joke for anyone that really knows what Bitcoin is, what it stands for, what it is capable of, and why it was created in the first place.
For everyone else, this probably sounds like a great solution. "Of, finally they solved the lost-your-seed-and-you're-fucked issue."
Let's see how this plays out in the long run. I would very much hope to see this has a major impact and creates a big disruption in the hardware-wallet sector. But I kind of doubt it will change much in the mid-long. Hope I'm wrong.

Tbh, I would be suprised if this actually damages their company in the long run.
Just think about what happens to trust towards CEXes after another big one goes down: Short dent, people look for alternatives (DEXes, storing their corns locally etc.) and after a while the majority is back using CEXes.
So yeah, for some period of time it will leave a mark, then a new generation of hardware-wallet-users comes along and everything is back to usual business.
I hope I am wrong, but not too optimistic.

That being said, regarding the real reason why Ledger does this shit... Maybe government pressure, maybe some inside folks are already working for the government, maybe some CEO is best-buddy with an intelligence-exec... who knows.

What I personally hope to see are many more open-source hardware wallet solutions, where some of them manage to become the new industry standards.

Any open spot please - will edit when I figuered out which still open.

Thanks, that's awesome tldr-hodl & MJ!

1 - Kryptowerk
(or random if already taken please)

Love to see it. Some great effort from their side, really well made looking flyers.
Thanks for joining and taking some footage of their "pamphlets", MJ!

Looking forward to someone jumping in here with some photos of their actual booth.

That's actually a good question and reminds me I recently got a few Lealana XMR without the "digital paperwork". 
Is there any way to get it via the coin's serial number from smoothie directly?

He did sweep a handful prior to the block-unlock time.
See:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434506.msg62245945#msg62245945

Here are the three transactions where he swept a 2023 timebond: https://btc.cryptoid.info/btc/tx.dws?d42606b8eb86345402196e3c6923a9dd3e00d39add63c6df9bea7f402f37bfaf.htm
It happened in block 786983 -> https://btc.cryptoid.info/btc/block.dws?786983.htm

0.006 BTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9scIevuymZM

Andreas Antonopoulos is live just now discussing the ledger f-up.

So far his stance is pretty clear and I am happy to see there is spotlight on all the potential problems a closed-source centralized company such as Ledger poses.
Especially after they have been caught lying about fundamental features of their security-chip on their hardware wallets.

Ledger has a nice track-record of fuck-ups, imho. First they just stopped support for their older hardware wallets. Such as Ledger HW (1) and Ledger Nano (1).
Then they managed to leak their customer database including email, clear name, address etc.

Now openly admitting to lying in regards of the possibility for private-key extraction from their security chip seems like the logical next step. Disgusting but not surprising.
https://www.binance.com/en/feed/post/539103

And: