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5201  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NOT Upgrading to SegWit who's with me?! on: December 24, 2016, 07:29:52 PM
all experts including Andreas Antonopoulos agree that Segwit should be activated before attempting any blocksize raises

I'm still waiting for you to support this claim with a link to AA stating such.

Thanks

(Not that it _really_ matters, when there are 'experts' on both sides of this debate, but it would be nice if you were actually able to back up this claim that you have been repeating)
5202  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NOT Upgrading to SegWit who's with me?! on: December 24, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
persistent 24/7 connection/transmission of the data to more then 8 peers is very costly.

Very costly? You must be quite impoverished. Sorry for your state. Quite surprised by this, actually, given your status as a long-term bitcoiner.

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Most of the worlds population is restricted to 1MB download and 1/5 of that in upload speeds.

That is categorically, unmitigatedly false.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Last year's figures show not a single country that has an average internet bandwidth limit as low as you claim. Not one. Even the absolute lowest listed average bandwidth is 50% greater than your claimed figure. There may be some unlisted country that has an average rate as low as you claim, but they will of necessity be inconsequential to decentralization anyway.

Further, 1MB/s is well in excess of the rate needed to operate a meaningfully-connected full node. As is 200KB/s (your 1/5 figure).

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Until the World Wide Internet's infrastructure is more universally robust and low cost we must micro manage block size to the best of our ability to minimize spam and incentivize a robust mining community.

Seems the world's internet infrastructure already got a whole lot more robust while you weren't paying attention.

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I beg all readers of this post to run a full node from your home for one month 24/7 too fully understand my point of view.

Have been. Several on one physical machine, actually. No, I don't understand your point of view.

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Watch in horror as your ISP disconnects you from the internet without any warning for violating some obscure clause in your contract

In your statement that you do run a full node, you implicitly admit that this has not happened to you. Why are you fearmongering?

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See how hard it is to download files, play online games, use VOIP or watch Netflix with a full node running on your home network.

If your commitment to your games is greater than your commitment to Bitcoin, then Bitcoin does not need your help.

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Then and only then will you fully understand my point of view.

Nope. Don't understand your point of view at all. Maybe if you restate your concerns in some manner that makes sense?

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And then call your government representatives and demand better internet.

Calling on government to fix some issue peripheral to Bitcoin seems like a very odd thing to do. Would it not make more sense to figure out some way to create a higher bandwidth connection for all within your geographic community? That is, if bandwidth is an actual barrier to your running a full node - a case which you have not yet made convincingly.

Now, there are valid reasons to resist the adoption of The SegWit Omnibus Changeset (i.e., Core 0.13.1 et. seq.). However, bandwidth concerns may be the weakest argument you could possibly make. We have sufficient bandwidth to maintain decentralization - be it bigger blocks though The SegWit Omnibus Changeset, or bigger blocks through a simple bump of maxblocksize.
5203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2016, 11:25:06 PM
I guess you guys also forgot how 2013 ended.

Nope - it ended with the absolute bottom of the crash being about twice the pre-pump price.
5204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo on: December 23, 2016, 09:28:29 PM
So what -- exactly -- was Greg awarded as a lovely parting gift?
5205  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This asshole published my private key! on: December 23, 2016, 03:58:22 AM
You can find the key on that site for every address in the Bitcoin network. 

No, you cannot. You (possibly) can find the key on that site for any address in the Bitcoin network. But any is not every. The distinction is not subtle.

Once you understand the difference, you will recognize how futile your search is.
5206  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving up on Bitcoin... on: December 22, 2016, 11:29:18 PM
I am even in signature campaign so ...

You should be aware that your shillerry comes with a price. See my sig for just one reason why.
5207  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving up on Bitcoin... on: December 22, 2016, 11:23:38 PM
If they start listening to intelligent people like Andreas Antonopoulos for example and not FUDsters like you, they will learn the fact that:

1) Increasing block size before segwit activation is a mistake
2) ALL Core devs except one want to increase the block size eventually, so no "1MB forever" FUD here.

I personally think Andreas has been, and will continue to be, a great asset to the Bitcoin community. That said, his greatest strength is not as a thinker, but as an explainer. As such, I'd be more than happy to listen to AA explain why it is important to adopt The SegWit Omnibus Changeset before adopting a direct simple blocksize increase. Earlier talks by him that I have seen have been absolutely and explicitly ambivalent on this matter. Care to link to what you think his strongest such statement is?
5208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NOT Upgrading to SegWit who's with me?! on: December 22, 2016, 11:13:20 PM

Anything over 50% (sustained) is the actual activation criteria.

Not really.  What you are talking about is called a 51% attack. 

Yes, really. Whether it is called 'attack' or called 'consensus' is a meaningless discernment. In reality, the net effect is what it is.

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SegWit and Maxwell might be able to organize a 51% attack to get their alt to replace bitcoin on the main chain.  But this comes with some severe problems. 

Such as?
5209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2016, 11:09:39 PM
And you don't think that's exactly what they did with Gold since 2008? Just look at that 10 yr chart... which is why no one is really all that excited about the Gold market right now even though Gold is supposedly seen as a "safe haven".

I am not really disputing your assertion that various markets are highly manipulated through various instruments, including gold.

You already concede that Bitcoin is quite a different animal and it does not have these tools and it is immature etcetera, etcetera.... so you conclude from that since they do not have the tools, the solution is to pump bitcoin.. makes little sense.... 

I gotta agree with JJG here (!). Unless you can explain to me how pumping the pump then causing a dump leads to anything other than a net higher value. I mean, just look at end of 2013. Sure the crash was ugly, but when we hit bottom, we were at about twice the pre-pump level.

If TPTB were actively trying to kill Bitcoin, I would expect them to make and popularize some sort of legalistic 'paper Bitcoin' in the same manner that they are successfully using to kill the gold price.
5210  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2016, 10:36:21 PM
possibly, some of the bigger whales may have decided to pull some of their cash off of the exchange,

Sounds as if you think whales keep the bulk of their coins parked on an exchange? With the propensity of pecuniary pilferers plundering principal, would that not be a particularly problematic proclivity?

The trick is to transfer to thy trusted Trezor to truly thwart the thieves.

'zackly. I would expect the whales to keep the bulk of their holdings off such external points of failure.



(sorry - I initially wrote that in natural language, then noticed some natural alliteration. So I rewrote it to maximize the alliteration. Of course, I was already into the sauce, as they say.)
5211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NOT Upgrading to SegWit who's with me?! on: December 22, 2016, 10:18:47 PM
SegWit is losing.  Probably not going to happen now.  No support.  Not even near 95% required.

Anything over 50% (sustained) is the actual activation criteria. While it would require a whole lot of crow-eating, we might soon see Core pulling back on the 95% acceptance threshold.

In true Greggian fashion (i.e., probably as an anticipatory tactical fallback measure merely so he can later point to it and say '...I've been telling you all along...'), u/nullc made a statement to this effect in a day or two after 0.13.1 release.
5212  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 22, 2016, 09:23:40 AM
possibly, some of the bigger whales may have decided to pull some of their cash off of the exchange,

Sounds as if you think whales keep the bulk of their coins parked on an exchange? With the propensity of pecuniary pilferers plundering principal, would that not be a particularly problematic proclivity?
5213  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NOT Upgrading to SegWit who's with me?! on: December 15, 2016, 01:47:06 AM
Was the $1 billion dollars stolen from MtGOX an 'over hyped exaggeration' ?

Well, two over-hyped exaggerations for the price of one, maybe.

1) Was not a billion. Less than half a billion.
    1a) ...and the half billion is calculated using the fake inflated WillyBot price, so really... much lower.
2) The Karpeles claim that the MtGox implosion was the result of malleability was an obvious lie.

Let's keep it real out there, gentlemen.
5214  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with lost bitcoins on: December 14, 2016, 04:25:59 AM
Show me just one link where there was a discussion of what I suggest here (but read at least the OP first and read it full)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1469099.0

Nevermind the title - the thread explicitly deviates almost immediately to 'any that have not moved in X time'.
5215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with lost bitcoins on: December 12, 2016, 09:20:00 PM
We all know that there can be no more than 21M bitcoins. We also know that every day some bitcoins get lost forever. That means that they still exist on the blockchain, but no one can access them since the keys are lost. I don't think that this is a right thing. We should recover these coins somehow, and that issue could be addressed eventually. I suggest ...
In this way, we will always have 21M bitcoins after the last bitcoin is mined and can also "resurrect" lost bitcoins for the common good

dear god. Not this again.

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To avoid asking and answering the same things all over again...

...one might search for one of the dozens of previous discussions on this exact same topic. Or I could save you the trouble by stating the short conclusion reached time after time after time: No.
5216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 12, 2016, 08:36:39 PM
OK. I can't stand it any longer. I gotta be that guy.

s/passed/past/

Sorry Jay but someone had to tell you sooner or later. Smiley

Thanks. Hits my grammar nazi trigger every time. The only reason I've not pointed it out as of yet is that I get the impression JJG thinks that I dislike him, and I don't want to reinforce that impression.

Just like franky1's refusal to capitalize anything. Of course, he/she is aware of the issue, and is willfully refusing to conform. I get the sense that JJG's 'passed' is inadvertent.

If it was any more pervasive, I'd have to think about adding it to my sidesig.
5217  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the 'purpose' and 'nature' of Bitcoin? Some questions. on: December 11, 2016, 08:26:35 AM
Well, a bank is not usually producing the money itself.

It appears you need to study more on the topic of partial reserve banking. While there are boundaries and conditions, banks do indeed create money out of nothing. It happens (almost) every time they make a loan.
5218  Economy / Speculation / Re: The country with the highest demand for gold just outlawed gold. Shit got real. on: December 05, 2016, 04:33:30 AM
But posting bullshit as fact is merely posting bullshit as fact.

Facts don't exist in a time-locked vacuum.

Your use of the term "facts" is myopic aliasing error (study the Shannon-Nyquist Sampling Theorem). You refuse to sample the data we have on what always happens next.

You are the bullshitter. The unintentional wolf in sheepskin.

Jeebus, you're off track.

Fact: India has *not* outlawed gold. Bullshit is bullshit.

I got my EE degree decades ago. I've been conversant with the work of Nyquist and Shannon for quite some time, thank you very much.

Yes, it is possible that gold may be outlawed in India tomorrow. But it is not today. And the Nyquist sampling theorem makes quite clear that one cannot extrapolate a future sample from the current. If you are using it at all, then you are misapplying the theory to which you claim to ascribe.

You are trying to tell me that my sampling frequency is not high enough to avoid aliasing? You've not even described what signal it is that you are sampling. What is the amplitude in your function supposed to denote? Is it periodic in the time domain? If not, you cannot convolve to the frequency domain.

Fact: India has *not* outlawed gold. Bullshit is bullshit.
5219  Economy / Speculation / Re: The country with the highest demand for gold just outlawed gold. Shit got real. on: December 05, 2016, 12:23:39 AM
Subject title is bullshit. India did not outlaw gold. As always was the case, gold can be purchased with after-tax money.

The new thing is that the gov is now demanding that all gold be shown to be purchased with after-tax money. And, apparently, resorting to draconian measures to determine if each person's gold above some threshold has been purchased accordingly.

But it has not made gold illegal.
So when has the Communist government ever stopped at its original limited action?

This is only the first step.

Prognostication about what may or may not come to pass is one thing. But posting bullshit as fact is merely posting bullshit as fact.
5220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DECENTRALIZED crypto currency (including Bitcoin) is a delusion (any solutions?) on: December 04, 2016, 02:31:35 AM
Life requires flaws. It is precisely flaws that make us unique and alive. If everything was predetermined (flawless), then nothing would exist. The past and future would collapse into indistinguishable (the light cones of special relativity would collapse onto each other). Life requires that real-time omniscience is impossible, which is a conceptual analogy of flaws (i.e. that not all of our actions can be congruent always in real-time).

Heaven....
Heaven is a place
A place where nothing ....
Nothing ever happens.
- David Byrne
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