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5221  Economy / Auctions / Re: RELOADED: 150 ASICMINER DIRECT SHARES. Ending 18/12 MIN bid: as low as 0.20!! on: December 16, 2013, 10:58:39 PM
nexus 6 asked me to provide my escrow services. So everyone that wants an escrow can use my service. See my signature for details.

Thanks!
5222  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] LocalBitcoins.com - a location-based bitcoin to cash marketplace on: December 16, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
No answer. Not cool when in need of cash.
5223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: December 16, 2013, 12:01:17 PM
The time intervall between crossing can be very high but the longer the time the higher the chance of breaking the line. So if i see the current chart i fear that i will soon lose a big part of my investment (i invested a lot more now) since its inevitable that the line gets crossed. Only when is the question.

In theory i should be able to simply wait and it will grow over time. What i wonder is if the past now doesnt work against me since the random pressure to break the line again is there and is rising with each bet.

That mathematics really isnt easy to understand. Thats probably why still so many people believe in martingale.
5224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: December 15, 2013, 09:43:05 PM
Im not a pro in stochastics so i ask myself if it makes sense to divest when the profit is so high above the 1% profit and invest once its below the 1%. Normalle the profit chart should flow around that line. So it might be possible to raise the profit that way.
On the other hand... random doesnt have a past. It could be seen as now starting so it should move on from the same amount with 1% profit. But with the past values it shouldnt... it should go way down now.
What view is correct on this?

Random doesn't have a past.

Divesting when profit is above expectation is another form of Gambler's Fallacy. The outcome of future bets does not depend on what happened in the past.

Thats what i would think too... but then... stochastics say that a 1% house advantage should lead to having the profits going along a 1% line. It happened in the past too. So shouldnt it go around the 1% line all the time? If it does then it might not go below 1% in the next week but at some point it will again.
5225  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I have been scammed? on: December 15, 2013, 09:39:59 PM
^^^
perhaps they can sit in the same cell as Pirate, Ian, Tradefortress, Ukyo and what.. literally 30 other people ?
Ahhh wait.. I always get tropical Island mixed up with Jail cell.. my mistake !

 

It wont change if bitcoiners life after the motto of "not throwing good money after bad money". Pirate was catched... labcoin scammer will be catched too. And it looks like bitcoiners changed mind. They will go after them.
5226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: December 15, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
Im not a pro in stochastics so i ask myself if it makes sense to divest when the profit is so high above the 1% profit and invest once its below the 1%. Normalle the profit chart should flow around that line. So it might be possible to raise the profit that way.
On the other hand... random doesnt have a past. It could be seen as now starting so it should move on from the same amount with 1% profit. But with the past values it shouldnt... it should go way down now.
What view is correct on this?
5227  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I have been scammed? on: December 15, 2013, 08:46:13 PM
I completly agree with the above.

It's a shame as there seems to be so many more scammers in here now which obviously puts a terrible image of bitcoin to new comers

Thats why i think its important to catch the scammers. For example i work with others to find the labcoin scammer. When these guys see they land in jail for messing with bitcoin community then scams will become less likely. Of course some groundrules still have to apply.
5228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: December 15, 2013, 08:42:54 PM
I would more tend to raise the 1% than lowering. Though im not so sure anymore since i read that 1% is the optimum for some reason.

Regarding the 1%... since i saw the charts i believe its seeable: http://bitcoinproject.net/just-dice-casino/just-dice-charts/profit-chart
See the second chart... it has the house advantage attached. So im pretty sure the profit is relatively consistent.

The profit looks consistent because the majority of bets are much smaller than the 1%. But during the Nakowa's bettings at 1% there was much variance and the chart was giving a completely different impression.

The max bet is actually 0.5% now.  This is a totally different number than the 1% house edge.  I believe it got dropped to 0.5% because of Nakowa's streak, but that was before my time following just-dice.

Max bet means a better can maximum bet a half percent of the house bitcoins in one game? But the house advantage is still 1%? Then this only means the player would play twice and it would be a bit less variance... not really less bitcoins played...
5229  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I have been scammed? on: December 15, 2013, 01:29:12 AM
Always use a trusted escrow when trading. Of course he must be known as a trusted one. You shouldnt simply use some other noob account who claims to be an escrow because the other mght suggest him. The escrow might be another account of the scammer. But if a real escrow is involved your money is safe until the trade is done. Thats how you trade securely.
5230  Economy / Securities / Re: [dicenow.com] btc/ltc casino - 10,000 rolls per click - play/invest - multi edge on: December 15, 2013, 01:18:23 AM
There's now over 23 BTC & 3400 LTC invested on the bank roll.

actually the bankrolls are cumulative, so you can't just add them up
it is roughly equal to the 3% house, so right now around 12 btc and 1700 ltc

I found that my investment was split but i would prefer to play with my investment in all percents. I mean the full investment plays in all bets. It looks like at the moment i only can chose to spread them about all percents or put them directly to a percent. But this way i always lose games or a big part of my investment isnt playing.

Could you give the possibility to play with the full amount at all percents?
5231  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] LocalBitcoins.com - a location-based bitcoin to cash marketplace on: December 14, 2013, 10:36:41 PM
Is localbitcoins broken? I tried to find traders for cash transfers. When i want to contact him i have to set up values. BTC or EUR in order to proceed. But when i do this i get told i dont have bitcoins at localbitcoins address. Even though i want to exchange cash...
5232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: December 14, 2013, 09:46:44 PM
I would more tend to raise the 1% than lowering. Though im not so sure anymore since i read that 1% is the optimum for some reason.

Regarding the 1%... since i saw the charts i believe its seeable: http://bitcoinproject.net/just-dice-casino/just-dice-charts/profit-chart
See the second chart... it has the house advantage attached. So im pretty sure the profit is relatively consistent.
5233  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: December 14, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
More inaccuracies i'd like to clear up:
The reason behind my pressing the point of exactly who is involved -- NeoBee or Danny -- is there's a world of difference, not just the salaries drawn by the employees.
Initially, Danny claimed that NeoBee is behind this -- a corporation with its corporate coffers.  Later, he recanted by claiming that only he, Danny, an individual, is behind this -- not the corporation he fronts.
If Danny is as savvy in finance as i assume him to be, he structured his finances in a way as to be worth nothing on paper.  If this comes down to litigation, there will be simply nothing to pursue with NeoBee coffers off the table.  This is why i wanted him to answer my question.  He led people to think that NeoBee was behind this, but in reality it's only him -- a point you still seem to be ignoring.

I do not know what Danny is doing to help Ukyo, and neither do you, so the remainder is nothing but conjecture.

...and this is why we can't have nice things Sad

Yes, its a bit confusing who is helping ukyo. I guess first he wanted to promote NEOBEE by setting it behind the thing and planned to come out as the hero who saved all... in order to promote NEOBEE. When he found that it wont work this way and people started to ask if NEOBEE will be damaged from it he claimed NEOBEE isnt involved. Its only him privately helping.

Regardless of that... there is no legal reason you can put your hands in Danny's or NEOBEE's pockets to take bitcoins out. There is simply no legal responsibility they have against ukyo and that way to each weexchange user. They never announced there is such liability.

I think they might helped too because NEOBEE has some Bitcoins in weexchange wallet. Another reason most probably is that NEOBEE is the company that will take over weexchange. The big buyer ukyo spoke about. All together led to the point that NEOBEE jumped in to help. Though i cant explain why someone should buy weexchange. The more when you see its damaged.

If the trade was done already then youre right. But NEOBEE would be stupid if it would have bought weexchange when problems occur. If they didnt buy it then there is simply no legal way to take their bitcoins. I think we are restricted to ukyo as of now. And im really interested to hear the explaination...
5234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: December 14, 2013, 09:05:17 PM
Someone knows how save investments on that website are? The owner is trustworthy and known in person, website is security checked and so on? I mean the revenue looks a bit like ponzi's look though it might be explainable because of the players. On the other hand its hard for me imagine there are so many users believing they could win something there...
I would like to invest more but im not yet confident about it.

Here we go again. A small run of good returns = onset of the fair-weather investors.

If you're thinking of investing, you should be ready to lose a significant percentage (10%, 20%+) of your investment at times. It has happened in the past on just-dice, and it will probably happen again. Investing is almost a bad term for it. Being an "investor" is actually putting on a highly volatile, ever-so-slightly positive expectancy bet. If you aren't into that sort of thing, you should invest in one of the other dice sites that scams their players by making it so that the house literally can never lose.

Comeon... i invested a week ago and since then i only saw my investment crawling below my invested amount. Now i saw the chart and it looks like the advantage is there seeing the actual investment. I doubted that before for obvious reasons. It was hard to imagine that all the games happening in the last week didnt show the house advantage. But it was that way.

*lol* Such sites, where players are scammed, exist and investors can invest? Hard to imagine that investors wont be scammed at some point too then. Not to say about players that should stop playing there if they find out. Again hard to imagine that such site remains alive.

I read many posts of dooglus now but still i dont know if he is an anonymous entity in the forum or if he is known.

And i found a debate about allowing investors to chose the risk of 1% to be changed. This settings wasnt implemented at the end?
5235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: December 14, 2013, 08:14:53 PM
Someone knows how save investments on that website are? The owner is trustworthy and known in person, website is security checked and so on? I mean the revenue looks a bit like ponzi's look though it might be explainable because of the players. On the other hand its hard for me imagine there are so many users believing they could win something there...
I would like to invest more but im not yet confident about it.
5236  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum 1.9 released on: December 14, 2013, 07:53:36 PM
When will version 1.9.6 portable come out? And will the save settings problem be fixed then?
5237  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: December 14, 2013, 07:44:06 PM
Your response is predicated on a dubious assumption -- assumption that a financier is trying to help you.  If that was indeed the case, your argument is begging the question -- its conclusion is presupposed in its premise.

Further, you misinterpreted pretty much everything i have said.  At no point do i "claim that Ukyo is a scammer."  I present you the poster i am responding to with a hypothetical scenario.  Let me stress again that i try to be precise in what i say, specifically to avoid this sort of confusion.  I try not to make unbacked accusations, please return me the courtesy.

Regarding your hypothetical:  If Ukyo committed a crime, asked Microsoft to cover it up and Microsoft complied, then yes -- Microsoft would be guilty of aiding and abetting.  This would remain true even if Microsoft partially reimbursed the victims of said crime.

Again, please take care to understand that nowhere have i said that Ukyo has committed a crime, that Microsoft aided him after the fact, or anything else you might read into this.  That's not what the word hypothetical means.

Ok... its hypothetical. But Microsoft wouldnt be guilty the same way NEOBEE wouldnt be. NEOBEE never claimed they will cover it all up. In fact they always claimed they arent involved financially and that they only try helping to fix it. Nothing more. Might be you wish they are bound somehow but for that being true they would have to state they will be liable and pay for ukyos debts. And why should they do such stupid thing?
They only wrote about helping.



By the way... i now contacted Marco Santori asking him what he wants for asking ukyo what happened and giving the info to me or more clients if more then myself are paying for that info.

You got 1BTC from me for this purpose.

Ok... ill keep that in mind... though i hope it should cost way more than that. I might be wrong since i never worked with that lawyer before.
5238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: December 14, 2013, 06:58:25 PM

niiiice Cheesy

I divested a while ago, but right now, whoever is still in, can look at a sweet ~6% profit just from nakowa's latest streak by the looks of it.

*lol* Youre right... finally something that looks like a house advantage... couldnt believe it till now since i always was crawling below my investment.
5239  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: December 14, 2013, 06:54:24 PM
There is a difference between calling Ukyo a scammer and a thief and saying that "that guy who is defending him was paid off by him and was in on it all along" without not even one solid proof of evidence

Thats how it goes in here. Noobs and fiery people try to beat in all directions in the hope to get a hit.



Regarding hypothetical scenarios:  Danny is not a random passer-by either to those invested in his bank or to the scammed WeEx users, who delayed taking legal action due to Danny's promise that Neo & Bee is working to resolve the matter & everyone should sit tight.
So the more fitting hypothetical here is Josh being robbed, and Danny telling him "cops won't get your money back.  I'm friends with the d00d who robbed you & will get it back for you."

As you can see, not only does Josh have the right to be angry at Danny but Danny is fully implicated and legally liable. 
Hope i have cleared things up for you.

I hope i never forget never to help you. Helping you sounds very dangerous.

Anyway... you can claim what you want. If Danny claims he tried to help no judge will bring him into jail. Its completely nonsense trying to sue him because he tried to help. No one is getting legally liable only by wanting to help. I wonder what laws you know. If any.
You can claim that ukyo is a scammer but following your logic... if ukyo would have asked microsoft to repair his wallet because he cant access the bitcoins anymore then microsoft has to be sued because in fact ukyo had stolen the coins. Thats some twisted logic you follow.



The proportional withdrawal looks good on the first glance. But it should be considered more carefully because not every balance to be returned is of the same type of risk:

1. Coin which was deposited after "the accident". This coin should be paid back first as it should not be used to repay other debt from before the accident!
2. Coin which was deposited before "the accident". This coin should be paid after the returned coin from the above point.
3. Coin which comes from selling Ukyo.loan. This coin should be paid the last. I am stressing on this matter since ukyo.loan shareholders in my opinion should be the most affected group as they were paid for risk taken while regular deposits were supposed to be risk-free. Treating regular deposits the same way as balances coming from closing ukyo.loan would not be fair!

This proposed order of resolution depends of course on type of the "accident". Since we don't know exactly what happened You must be the judge on that matter.

Smiley Let me guess... you deposited coins after the accident?
Always interesting how people try to claim why they and their funds are more important than others.



When it is POSSIBLE to release the full information as to what happened, that information will be posted and many on here will quickly become quiet. Has no one given it the thought that by revealing too much information could result in a decreased chance of getting those coins back?

So it really will be the hacker-story? You know... the hacker already know what he did. He wont be alarmed that you search for him. But i really doubt there is a hacker at all.



Maybe we should start collecting deposit addresses for weexchange. Might be that we find a pattern what happened with the bitcoins?

By the way... i now contacted Marco Santori asking him what he wants for asking ukyo what happened and giving the info to me or more clients if more then myself are paying for that info.
5240  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: December 13, 2013, 11:06:47 PM
We should make a new thread for all people who want to take part in setting up legal action, private investigation, whatever, to learn the truth what happend to our funds and assets.

I thought about banding together and hire one lawyer. Maybe the one from this forum. He can have multiple customers. So everyone has to pay less, he gets the info and all participants can get the info from him. That makes more sense than everyone paying much for his own lawyer while in fact everyone only wants to know whats going on.

Makes sense of course only when the lawyer really would get the info.

I'd like to know how many btc are stuck in there totally to get an estimation about the percentage we can expect to get back on monday. Anyone got further information?

Check: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337523
Edit: Or do you mean the "remaining" coins in the wallet? I guess we wont get that info until payment.
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