Bumping and a request to @Rikafip
Can you please look through the activity statistics of local board for the month of November 2020 and share standing of our local thread as you did for the month of October. Our local community will be so much grateful to you.
I made November local board overview few days ago, including the Bangladesh topic. In the link below you will find several charts that you can use and share as you please. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231446.msg55779585#msg55779585By the way, it's good to see that you are keeping your post count on par with previous months, but unfortunately merit shared dropped significantly. |
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Da, prošli mjesec je nekolicini nas nedostajalo nekoliko Merita da budemo rangirani u viši rang pa smo tu dobili dosta Merita čak i od korisnika koji inače nisu dio naše sekcije. Možda je zato broj zarađenih Merita malo veća nego inače. Ali u svakom slučaju drago mi je da smo na sredini  A uvijek je to tako, svi nasi jaci mjeseci su bili medju ostalima i produkt merita izvana, tako to ide kad se poklopi vise stvari. Kakva je ovo luda statistika sa turcima koji su pisali skoro 2000 postova više u odnosu na prošli put, a rusi pisali 13700 postova manje Ostali su se probudili a mi i nismo tako loši, i nadam se da nam Regulus i drugi još malo poprave statistiku, a za bolji merit nam treba novi merit source ako se smiluje theymos. Da Turci su bas stisnuli pedalu. Bas sam malo gledao statistiku i izgleda da su prosli mjesec bili malo vise aktivni u Off Topic dijelu.Ti veliki boardovi lako napumpaju statistiku a kod nas to ipak malo teze ide jer nas nema puno. A sto se tice Rusa, kod njih je Altcoin sekcija teski cirkus, sa hrpom shillanja i drugih pizdarija a izgleda da su to smanjili prosli mjesec pa otuda i tako manje brojke, a jos su i imali par tisuca obrisanih postova. Oni su i jedini board koji ima hyip sekciju. Nase brojke su super kad skuzis da vise nemamo nikoga u Bitvestu, a nekad nas je znalo biti i 4-5, board je bio preplavljen sa tim sigom. Neznam jesi skuzio tko ima duplo veci merit/post ratio od nas  . |
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Hajde da i ja budem prvi u nečemu, pa makar u merit/post omjeru kad već ne mogu u drugim stvarima. Većinu merita sam i ja dobio u periodu kada sam dizao profil sa Hero na Legendary. Bilo bi zanimljivo vidjeti koliko sam merita dobio kao Hero a koliko kao Legendary u lokalnoj sekciji. Možda se i ta statistika može izvuči nekako sa stranica koje su napravili TryNinja ili DdmrDdmr ili neki drugi korisnik...
Ako je vjerovati ovom postu ti si skupio 1000 merita 12.4.2019 te si tada postao Legendary. Kad stavis range na listu primljenih merita u lokalnom boardu u razdoblju od 24.1.2018 do 12.4.2019 ispada da si dobio 65 merita, a u razdoblju od tada pa do danas dobio si 126 merita na lokalnom boardu. Ako je datum kada si postao Legendary kriv, evo tu dolje je link na merit dashboard i primljene merite na nasem boardu pa se igraj sa rangeom da dobijes tocan rezultat https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/shared/48QXH4N8P Prema Ninjastic Space, u tom prvom razdoblju si napisao 147 postova na domacem boardu a drugom razdoblju 360 postova. Veca aktivnost=vise merita. Ima smisla. Cisto da stvari stavimo u perspektivu, u razdoblju od 24.1.2018 do 12.4.2019 na nasem boardu je podijeljeno 2028 merita a u razdoblju od 13.4 2019 pa do danas 2097 merita.
Ma ja dam merit kad ima svakome tko zasluzuje nebitno koliko vec merita ima. Pa i Lege i hero zasluzuju bit nagradjeni za doprinos forumu. Jebiga nije sve u rankanju i sustavu, merit je svakome gust dobit, koji god rank da bio.
Upravo tako. Ja isto nagradjujem dobar post. Jebe mi se dal je netko Jr Member ili Legendary. Dobar post je dobar post, i ako mislim da zasluzuje merit onda cu ga i dati. Ali istina je da dosta ekipe gleda i rank kad dijeli merit, mozda i nesvjesno. Ja radim sve isto i kad sam bio Sr Member, Hero i sada kada imam vise od 1000 merita, pa ipak nekako manje merita dobijam, ali mislim da je to vise zbog toga sto je nestalo par aktivnih merit sourceva sa scam accusation boarda pa se jako cesto dogodi da ne dobijem nista. Ali nema veze, ja picim po svom a merit ce doci. |
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Good initiative, but I have few suggestions that will make this list a bit more organized, therefore easier to use: - Sort the reports chronologically because in the current state I see no logical order
- Add the date of thread creation
- Mark the current status (whether fake wallet/app has been removed from the PlayStore or not)
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This wasn't an easy decision at all, but after quiet a lot of deliberation my vote goes to:
Thnx @zasada@ for an idea and @Best_Change for support! |
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So, what about now Vindictuses? You did scam user mikepom as expected. Chat screenshots here: https://ibb.co/Hp6tkkkhttps://ibb.co/rmcpjqjDT members, I hope you can believe me now and tag this shady user to save other's money. I feel sorry for @mikepom if what he claims is true, but @vindictuses was already tagged by me, so you can't say that all members that planned to do business with him weren't warned of possible consequences of not using escrow when dealing with a newbie account with no prior trade history or reputation. All he had to do is to check his trust rating and this would be avoided. @mikepom should open a thread in scam accusation board and raise a flag against him. |
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Kao sto sam i rekao neki dan, evo i onih chartova sa usporedbom nas i ostalih boardova Podaci su standarfno preuzeti sa @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboarda
Broj postova u periodu 01.11-30.11Mislim da je super da smo i dalje u toj nekoj "Tier B" skupini lokalnih boardova i drzimo korak sa puno vecim boardovima. Sportskim rijecnikom receno oni imaju puno veci "plafon" jer ih jednostavno ima puno vise pa ce ih u slucaju hajpa vise nagrnuti na forum, a li opet mi imamo tu prednost da ne ovisio toliko u altcoin boardu, koji je bitan faktor kod tih vecih boardova te vjerojatno zato i nismo toliko pali u vrijeme one najvece depresije nakon ICO sloma pa necemo puno patitit i nakon sto se DeFi malo iskristalizira i otpadne smece a ostane ono sto valja.
Broj merita za period 1.11-30.11Kao i u prethodnim mjesecima, stabilizirali smo se negdje u sredini ljestvice. Za ovaj broj postova, 200 merita je mislim korektna brojka te ako se tako nastavi nasi clanovi koji uglavnom pisu na loklanom boardu imaju sansu rankati u normalnom roku kao sto je slucaj na ostalim aktivnim boardovima. Posto sam nekako skeptican da ce se uskoro dodavati dodatni merit sourcevi, jos jednom pozivam ostale da povremeno submitaju postove u Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. Savjet onima kojima se bude dalo submitati; nemojte sherati samo svoje postove nego kombinirajte malo svoje i tudje postove jer nekako mislim da se to vise cijeni.
Merit/Post ratio u periodu 01.11-30.11Ako se ne varam, ratio od 0.26 merita po postu nam je drugi najbolji rezultat uopce, odmah nakon 8. mjeseca kad je prosjek bio 0.3. Istina je da je to rezultat kombinacije kojeg merita vise i nesto postova manje u odnosu na prosli mjesec, ali svejedno bolje izgleda vidjeti nas board u sredini charta a ne negdje na zacelju kao sto to inace bude. |
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User Moneta Holdings17 sent me a PM about reconsidering neg feedback on his profile.
As I say in my previous post here, waiting for his response here, I didn't get a single argument, why it is necessary to check it again. Still waiting for an explanation, even if we know that there will be the usual justification "they hire an agency which plagiarizes WP..."
I will not discuss this through PM.
I got the PM as well, and also don't have any intentions to talk about it via PM. If he wants to say something, he should do it here, even though I am not sure that he can say anything for me to change my mind. I don't think they'll reply here, based on their answer for my invitation to explain their action on this thread, I think they justifies plagiarism as a legal, or at least neutral, action.
His reply is pure bs, seems like he is not even aware of the issue and how wrong is what they did. Given their reply, I don't think that waiting 1 day or 10 days will make any difference whatsoever so I suggest that you raise the flag now. |
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Totally plagiarized whitepaper including graphics and images, and even their website is generic theme used by many projects.
Both bitzcoin and original project are from India, so maybe same people made them both, and using that stupid bitzcoin name is also very shady.
This is one of the more blatant plagiarism cases I've seen lately, completely ripped of another idea that wasn't even blockchain based. I think that only connection between those two is the fact that they are India based so that's how they found about it. Original whitepaper has authors mentioned: Aurobindo Saxena (his picture is in the original whitepaper too), Priyesha Singh, Rashi Jain and Disha Ahuja. That part was removed in Bitzscoin whitepaper simply because those people are not part of their team and probably have nothing to with this scam attempt. Flag should be created for this.
Flag created, please support: Flag Type 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2515 |
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One more ANN thread added to the list [ANN] Cryptoenter - THE WORLD'S FIRST DEFI SERVICE ON THE ENTERPRISE BLOCKCHAIN!Bunch of newbie accounts that were made in 2018/2019 and had no prior post history suddenly woke up and decided to write exclusively in Cryptoenter thread, doing most basic shilling, writing one liners and pretending to be interested. It still baffles me how those "marketing services" manage to sell that to projects, don;t they see how fake that looks? Or maybe they are aware but simply don't care as they want is to increase score in equally pointless and useless ICO tracking sites. |
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I didn't have plagiarism scanner that'll help outlining their entire copy-paste document, and although I spent a good two hours trying to find a decent one, none of the free version would help the entire 80+ pages of their WP... or maybe I'm just clueless, LOL. If anyone have a decent app or full account (or perhaps can share a site with full free scanning) please scan their WP as I am sure almost everything is plagiarized from several sources. No worries about these tools, you did good and showed their intention, and for that few copied pages are enough, you don't have to show whole whitepaper. You are right though about other parts being plagiarized as they also copied some stuff from Bitcoin whitepaper which is pretty obvious to notice if you read whole whitepaper, and incredibly stupid from Moneta. I tagged the op and will gladly support the flag if you make one. By the way, nice catch and good thing that you noticed it early! This team is also very suspicious to me. I did not find any details about them over the internet. Only some relations to stock images. It will be interesting if someone has some free time to research are these images generated by AI.
Yep, team looks dodgy af. None of the team members that have LinkedIn profile shared mentions Moneta, which is another red flag. It baffles me that new projects are still plagiarizing parts of their whitepapers and then starting up ANN threads here. They must not be aware of how much they're under a microscope when it comes to shilling their wares on bitcointalk.
Now that you mentioned shilling, I think that they are doing that too. There are few suspicious newbies asking those standard questions, pretending to be interested and then OP answers them. Another "coincidence" is that they just woke up after a break and were active on some other threads that were using the same tactic. Moneta has "money grab" written all over them, and I suggest everyone to avoid this. |
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Welp, so long as somebody decides its a good idea to keep recruiting bounty hunters to advertise various shitcoin projects to each other all day long, the cycle will continue infinitely. I really don't understand how running a bounty is the least bit profitable knowing bounty hunters will always do the minimum amount of required work to get their tokens... The way I see it, owners of those altcoin projects know that their shitcoins are worthless, so why not throw some at the bounty hunters, and maybe at least social media followers numbers will look better. Majority of bounty managers (someone correct me if I'm wrong) are paid either in those shitcoins or so little that is not much expense. And in the case that altcoin actually performs ok, you can always delay distribution for months or even years, reduce bounty poll, introduce KYC and whatnot. A long time ago when I was involved in an ICO, I checked our website analytics pretty regularly and determined bounty hunters were barely driving any traffic to our website. I know that there's more to it than that, like getting out brand recognition and stuff, but bounty hunters just advertise to themselves all day, like they do here in Altcoin Discussion, on Facebook and Twitter (its easy to get 5,000 FB friends or Twitter followers if you're all bounty hunters and you all follow each other).
No surprise that their reach is zero, since all their followers are other bounty hunters/bots and those certainly are not interested in buying tokens. Basically an echo chamber. |
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I know of the effect from sample size (this case, total posts) and your chart shows an overview only and without other factors, your chart can disclose something accurately or does not make any sense because biases from non-inclusive factors.
This overview doesn't go in depth and honestly I don't even want to. And even if I wanted to, I am not an expert in the matter. I just wanted to share few basic info regarding each local board and put it in some easily understandable chart, hence the word "brief" in the title. If I really go in depth I think that people would loose all interest for it (assuming that there is some interest for this kind of approach), and if they want to check it a little bit more thorough, they can always use Merit Dashboard. Example: A local topic received 100 merits in a specific month but OP receive 80 or 90 merits and total posts in one month is 100. It means 80-90% of earned merit centralized in OP, and most of the 99 rest posts are mostly shit posts.
True, merit shared and merit ratio doesn't give clear picture of local board quality. In the end, only those that speak the language and are active there can know that. But to try to give a little bit more info how merit is spread and how many people are part of merit system, I started making that merit senders/receivers chart. That one also shouldn't be taken too seriously either, but it does show some stuff. For example, it's obvious that merit shared is very decentralized in Pilipinas board. |
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Minor suggestion, @Rikafip:
Would you mind use width option inside the img brackets to make smaller images visually, please. It takes me for a while to scroll the mouse from top to bottom of one page.
Usually I set the width at 800, but for this one I made a mistake and set it at 900, and now it's back to the old value, thanks for pointing that out. I don't want to decrease it further though as due chart orientation it won't make a huge difference even if I decrease it further 30 %, it will just make it less readable. And to be honest, I quite like it how it looks at the moment  I see a sudden pump of merit per post ratio from 0.07 to 0.53. Your charts only confirm my findings I guess you are referring to Nigerian topic? Yeah that ratio can vary a lot on those boards with low post count. One very good post with a lot of merit received and ratio gets inflated. Then again some other local boards ratio is decreasing constantly. |
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November is behind us so it's time for yet another overview of the local boards. Data used for making these charts was taken from @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboard which you should check if you want more detailed look at your local board. Communities marked with * don't have their own local board and are located in Other languages/locations.
Post activity per local board during November 2020
Big surprise on this chart, Turkish local board was the most active one, ahead of Russian and German. This is the 2nd time since I am making this overview that Russian didn't ed up at the top. While first time it was due high amount of deleted posts, according to data available that's not the reason for huge decrease compared to previous month when Russian board had more than 18,000 posts (they did have big decrease in altcoin section). Beside Turkish, few other big boards like German, French and Portuguese experienced big increase in the activity, which is not a surprise considering the current market situation. Hopefully this trend will continue in upcoming months. Out of four communities without local board, Bangladesh is consistently for months the most active one and stands quite good even when compared with the ones with local board, and Pakistan ain't bad either. Who knows, if they keep being active and keep topic clean from spam, maybe they get their own local board one day.
Merit shared per local board during November 2020No big surprises there, majority of active boards shared relatively similar amount of merit like they did during October and they even kept very similar ranking like during the last period. Indonesian board keep getting merit amount decreased month after month, while the one that had biggest drop percentage wise was Bangladesh, with only 4 merits shared during whole November which is a pretty low considering more than 300 posts written. Afaik, they do have merit application pending (same as few other local boards without merit source) so hopefully that gets sorted eventually.
Merit senders/receivers per local board during November 2020As expected, this chart pretty much follows the amount of merit shared, with a few standard exceptions like Pilipinas board, whihc has very high amount of members that are part of merit system, considering the amount of merit shared. Four communities without local board are missing from this chart as I didn't have exact data.
Merit/Post ratio per local board during November 2020All standard boards are pretty much at the top half of the chart, with Russian board being unusually high due much lower post count compared to previous months while keeping similar amount of shared merit, therefore boosting the ratio, and few big one like German and French had decreased ratio due significant increase (approximately 50% ) in pots count. Just to add once again that these numbers can vary a lot from month to month, especially on the boards with lower post count so they can easily end up very high, like Dutch, Nigerian and Romanian did on this chart. |
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Today many farms participate in bounty campaigns. I regularly report violations from the ban. But the funny thing is that after the ban, they create even more accounts. Yep, this is basically whack-a-amole game we play with them, and one has to ask himself does it even make any sense to report newbie accounts as it costs them literally 0 USD to make a new one. And they will do exactly that, ban or two won't make them change their mind. They can even replace Twitter/Facebook and other social media accounts as followers there can be easily bought for a few dollars. Faced with such messages, I am surprised at the stubbornness and, to some extent, stupidity of people. They themselves complain that it is impossible to make money in the bounty, but despite this they still waste their time on it.  They simply join just about any new bounty campaign that shows up, and then hope that out of dozens or hundreds few will bring them few bucks. Most of them are lazy and don't have any skills or interest in crypto, and none of that is needed to share tweets and facebook posts. |
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Evo, sada ga imamo! Rikafip, možeš upotrijebiti ove podatke za merit/post listu? Eto kad si se već potrudio i našao podatke za post count, možeš i ti napraviti merit/post ratio listu, imaš gore podatke u onom linku koji sam sherao. Ja neću imati ništa protiv, dapače |
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Has anyone also noticed that the reviews on electrum pro app were all made on the same day (July 13, 2020)? play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.e.l.e.c.t.r.u.m.pro&showAllReviews=true Yeah, bunch of fake reviews for that app, standard pratcice of those scammers. It is unbelievable that fake app can be on PlayStore for four-five months without Google removing it. I mean, there is no way that no one in all these months didn't report the app. Or Google just casually ignores them if only few are made. |
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Ovako sastavljena lista dobiva negativnu konotaciju, lista bi imala puno više smisla da se broj postova usporedi s brojem dobivenih merita.
Prvo sam mislio napraviti listu sa merit/post ratiom sa one top 30 liste, ali kad sam poceo skuzio sam da isto ne bi bilo fer jer su neki prestali biti aktivni prije nego sto je merit uveden, tako da bi brojke bile totalno off. Steta sto nemamo post count od trenutka kad je merit uveden, to bi onda bilo puno preciznije. Umjesto toga, evo liste onih koji su najvise podijelili i primili merit na nasem boardu, pa to moze pomoci. Zanimljivo je da si ti i dalje na vrhu.   Na linku ispod mozes vidjeti punu listu https://public.tableau.com/shared/W99CPJJJB?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link |
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