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5261  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦉 Owl.games 🦉 on: February 21, 2023, 11:39:08 PM
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They left the forum.
Their website and token are still up though.

I was shocked by Owl's departure from Bitcointalk. To me, it is not a good move for them to leave the forum to limit the negative experiences that their players are encountering. It just shows that they do not want to be transparent...

Or they are done with the hostile environment... For some people and businesses the forum has been a hostile environment, and that isn't a secret at all. People have to deal with cheaters who try to abuse their system and after getting their accounts locked they come here to start a scam accusation, some businesses are not up to dealing with that kind of trolls, and that's why some companies decide to leave the forum because for them it represents a bad experience.
It's not that they registered a few weeks ago and discovered the rough environment then decided to leave. They have been here for years and know very well how the forum works. They are also aware that stopping [locking] the thread suddenly can bring what kind of effects. Let's just hope they do not have malicious intent.


I guess only companies who do not and are not ready to build a reputation will see bitcoin talk as a hostile environment owl casino in particular has enjoyed a lot of support from the members here in the forum and I won't say that they left because of any negative treatment from the forum members, because the various issues raised against them here in the forum has to do with their casino and how theri handle players money and activities on the account.
-And as a matter of fact, no body really made any concluded judgment here in the forum as no one has the final say except the security teams, so why should there exist because of forum members involved in the case, as they are already aware that this is a discussion forum and anyone is free to contribute to whatever topics that are raised.
5262  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Anonymity vs. KYC: The Pros and Cons of Cryptocurrency Exchanges on: February 21, 2023, 11:28:32 PM
Despite submitting details for KYC, there is yet the human factor of third party that ask for different levels of verification any time you are accessing the such platform and that is against the spirit of cryptocurrency or decentralized operations. I prefer the spirit that blockchain is the technology for freedom and personal responsibility and not third-party interference.
KYC may be against the spirit and practice of decentralization, but then we can not totally elude the importance of KYC to centralized platforms and cryptocurrency services providers, such as exchanges, first, they need to comply with government regulations for them to be able to get licensed, and since the government already know the risk of allowing crypto transactions on exchange to go unchecked, it's paramount for them to strictly follow the kyc mandate.
-But the user on the other hand has the right to choose between KYC and none KYC and this all balls down to how the individual perceives his privacy.
5263  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: [Economy] New Report Predicts Mass Job Losses in Nigeria on: February 21, 2023, 10:55:26 PM
There is no doubt the fact that every policy has it implications for the masses and if no one has lost a job because of the cashless policy the POS operators are the first hit by the policy, even though a few of them have back-door access to naira is making a hell of profits from the naira sells the period we still have a large number of POS operators who have suddenly become jobless because of this new cashless policy since there is no place for POS anymore in the current dispensation and if all things being equal this job loss will also extend to other sectors of the economy.
-Today in my area while having my morning juggling, I saw a lot of people tracking to work because of their inability to get cash for transport fairs, and a lot of other couldn't make it to work also.
-As we all know the private sector is the major employer of labour in 9ja and they pay their workers based on days of work, so tell me how long can those who are unable to get transport fairs to be able to remain in the job before possible replacement.
5264  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading season? on: February 21, 2023, 10:42:49 PM
I was kind of confused little about something, someone walk on to me and was telling me that in trading it has his season when you profit from it and I asked him how but he didn't say anything.
I want to to be satisfied with trade having it the season of profit.
season you mean lucky days, if that is what the ops mean then the answer is yes, in trading we have our lucky days where the market just moves in your favour but to state the exact time and period when that will happen is unpredictable so at that, we can't say the is a specific season that could be call trading season.
-Unlike market movement where we either have a bull season or bear season, trading has to do with skills and a little bit of luck, so the combination of the two make it impossible to have a season because multiple variables can hinder that.
5265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CBDC and Regulation discussion on: February 21, 2023, 10:37:04 PM
Even in Africa, people understand that CBDC is complete crap. If you haven't read the news then run the request: CBDCS FAILING IN NIGERIA.
CBDC is complete total control over the population, so a decentralized cryptocurrency will be the only way to prevent the implementation of CBDC. Relatedly, thanks to CBDC, people are starting to use cryptocurrencies.
Nigeria's E-naira can not be classified as a total CBDC since it does not run on the blockchain and there is nothing different between the e-naira and the normal naira in the bank account, and the only thing I see in the development of CBDC is the fact that the government want to digitalized income tax and with the E-naira or becomes very easy for them to achieve that tax regime which is not to the favour of the masses.
-If you have made any attempt to use any of the CBDCs you will discover that there are high fees and multiple charges on transactions compared to regular bank charges on transactions and this has made many citizens abounded their e-Naira wallets and embraces the traditional banking system.
5266  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: February 21, 2023, 10:23:12 PM
I got lucky tonight on the stake after betting on sport in the Liverpool vs Real Madrid match and I must say this is my first big win from stake since I sign up there and I am really happy.
-Real Madrid really performed quiet excellently today after they managed to bunch back with 2 goals down in the early minutes of the game, I risk Real Madrid winning and the second half brought me the magic moment we're Real Madrid made 5 goals scores in total.
5267  Economy / Speculation / Re: Enough? on: February 21, 2023, 09:59:03 PM
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What do you mean by "properly managed"? Investment in BTC is not supposed to be managed, just keep the custody and keep your keys secure.
And true to be told, even know anything is possible, it's very unlikely that BTC0.1 will be "enough".
OP didn't bother to properly explain what he meant by this, but if we assume that "enough" means achieving financial independence (i.e. being able to retire early), then we have to consider that BTC cannot sustain its past levels of growth (quite obviously). Even if it goes x10 (meaning it would roughly match the current global market cap of gold), the OP's investment would be worth ~$24k. Not enough to retire even in the poorest of the 3rd world countries.
Proper management means a lot of thimgs and by saying that I mean the ability of ops not to panic at whatever market situation by building a good knowledge that could guarantee financial independent thoughts outside market speculation and fuds.
-0.1BTC may not be enough for someone to have a good financial life in any part of the world with the current global I inflation rate, but then if the price and amount accumulated to $24k you mentioned and ops is smart enough with that amount he can build a good and sustainable life but it requires a lot of hard and diversification's for that to be achieved.
5268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 21, 2023, 09:51:30 PM
How to make the game interesting?

Just play without goalkeepers, crazy 2-3 for Real Madrid, while Napoli is doing his job vs a weaker opponent.

Liverpool thought that two goals at the early fourteen minutes of the game can bring victory to them but Vincius prove them wrong by equalising the two goals. Vincius foot is a shot producer, he almost scored again with the same way he used in scoring his first goal. It is funny to see both keepers making risky mistakes that lead to goals. Both sides are balance now and I know from the way Real Madrid is playing that they will score more goals in the second half. There might be many goals in the second half. The second half has just started and Liverpool has conceded two more goals which were scored by Militao and Benzema in the early fifteen minutes of the second half.
Liverpool underrated Real Madrid even though Liverpool know the capacity of real Madrid they still went ahead to messed up the early chances of opportunity of scoring 2 goals in the early minutes of the game, Liverpool both goals came out of luck and that is the reason they could not defend the goals for long before Real Madrid equalized and added 3 extra goals making the total goals to stand at 5 from real Madrid team.
-I don't know what the technical problem is with Liverpool always being unable to defend their goals for possible winning in most of their matches.
-The match is almost over and at this point, we can congratulate Real Madrid for their slide-winning tonight.
5269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 21, 2023, 09:38:57 PM
How to make the game interesting?

Just play without goalkeepers, crazy 2-3 for Real Madrid, while Napoli is doing his job vs a weaker opponent.
70 minutes of running time and the score has changed very quickly because now Madrid has the upper hand with a series of 5 goals.
Now their condition seems to be very comfortable and Liverpool has lost again in their revenge mission against Madrid now. The 5th goal scored by Benzema some time ago I think has broken Liverpool's wings now and this match has certainly belonged to Madrid with their condition that relentlessly confined Liverpool and with fast counterattacks which have always been a very difficult scourge for Liverpool to anticipate.
This a massive win for real Madrid against Liverpool in this match, I don't know what happen to Liverpool after the first half they started conceiving goals at a rapid rate and at that moment the goals score is now 2:5 and 70+ gone with no hope for Liverpool to ever make any equalization attempt.
-The first few minutes of the match,  Liverpool played so well to have scored the first 2 goals and since then there have failed in adding extra goals or even protecprotecting positions for a long.
5270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 21, 2023, 09:22:31 PM
How to make the game interesting?

Just play without goalkeepers, crazy 2-3 for Real Madrid, while Napoli is doing his job vs a weaker opponent.
Real Madrid is doing a finishing job on Liverpool tonight and the second half of the match have be filled with multiple goals score from Real Madrid after the first half was roughly contented for by both clubs, but at the moment Real Madrid already have a solid game plan with 2:4 goals in the 50+ to 60 minutes it's quite clear that Championship is favourable to Real Madrid at the moment and this is indeed a good attempt by Real Madrid to reclaim the champion status this season.
5271  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What If There Is A Ban on: February 21, 2023, 09:09:04 PM
Then bitcoin will move to the deepweb-ish market. Pretty much like selling digital drugs.

Will I be negatively affected? Sure, but I'll be totally fine in the grand scheme of things. This is why no one should go 100% invested in bitcoin or in any asset at all, because of potential unforeseen circumstances.
Yeah putting your eggs in one basket sometimes leaves one stranded in the case of any eventuality along the line, and no one is advised to go all in 100% into Bitcoin or any other thing at all.
-But with bitcoin, we have very strong security of assets that make us ahead of any potential future risk most especially when we have all our assets stored in cold wallets.
5272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Know your limit on: February 21, 2023, 08:56:48 PM
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Actually it is harder to make them understand it is a scam and they should not "invest" more
When scammers get a hold on someone they are sometimes uncontrollable until they are 100% scammed then their eyes will open, I don't believe in any cryptocurrency business or investment that has to do with third-party involvement because bitcoin is designed to eliminate their party system that has been a proven scam any time.
-It is better to build your knowledge and skills, to be able to carry out every activity that you think is profiting in bitcoin rather than letting another person do that for you.
5273  Economy / Gambling / Re: Diamond 5 Stake, account was hacked on: February 21, 2023, 08:44:49 PM
So sorry for your lose, I also hope the right thing is fine because seriously, times are hard and we need the little we can get to survive through

But, if it's not possible, accept it as your loss and try to be more cautious and courageous.

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Both the OP and stake have some blame to share, however in the case of the OP I agree with you that somehow he was already being watched by those scammers and they have been probably sending him links for some time waiting for him to fall into their scam, and while stake is also to blame, on their defense I do not remember ever seeing this particular kind of scam, instead of withdrawing money directly from the hacked account they sent tips to a new account and then withdrew that money from that account, so it makes sense they were not ready to stop such an unusual attack.
Yes the thing is, we can blame both for everything but the fact still remains that ops are still in the right position to take all the blames since he initiated the vulnerability in the first place, we are warned never to click any link without proper check and if we visit our favourite site and we a prompt to input password we should always be careful and try to check everything right to know if the site is legit or not.
-Hackers are smart and there have clown popular sites all with an attempt to steal users' information even bitcointalk accounts have been hacked before using this same method.
5274  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦉 Owl.games 🦉 on: February 21, 2023, 08:16:59 PM

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That's the thing that channels for communication with owl.the game is limited, maybe it was done intentionally, maybe not, or maybe it's due to saving money for support, but communication with them is now clearly difficult to get feedback, so yes, you're right, this may just have to go through.
It's now only through the support that anyone will communicate with them at the moment and you know how support works, some times it takes days before tickets are attended to and not everything that the support can handle.
-Some cases are unique and it need a representative to understand and communicate to the support and if there is no such option for players to reach the representative through their thread it becomes absolutely impossible and hard to continue using the casino.
-I think the owl casino team would have given an official explanation as to why they locked their official thread and other channels of communication.
5275  Economy / Gambling / Re: Diamond 5 Stake, account was hacked on: February 21, 2023, 08:06:17 PM
So sorry for your lose, I also hope the right thing is fine because seriously, times are hard and we need the little we can get to survive through

But, if it's not possible, accept it as your loss and try to be more cautious and courageous.
From all indications and points of view, ops are to be blamed for everything because he click a phishing link and it's possible this is not the first time he has clicked the link and his account may have been compromised long before the hackers cashed out.
-I am sure his activities have been monitored for a long before the hacker finally struck when he has seen enough cash-out.
-The only place I see stake fault is where the withdrawal was approved even though the 2FA security was removed, because, in the change of any security details, the account should have been placed under 24-hour restrictions.
5276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 21, 2023, 07:31:17 PM

I know Chelsea spend lots of money and invested in the future of this team after the player they bought and that's why they have more and stronger superstars than Tottenham as a Tottenham fan I hope to see Tottenham winning this game especially if you consider their star Harry Kane is on his good days in Tottenham and can have definitely good effects on the game, but from the five last games these two teams faced each other Tottenham could never beat Chelsea while Chelsea won 4 games.
Despite the whole money Chelsea spent on new players in the last transfer window, there is no better result from the clubs this season and in the last few games Chelsea failed to make any positive impact with the whole squad, but Tottenham on the other hand have been doing well lately even though they have not spent good money in buying top players but at least making use of their old players.
-And judging from all these analyses shows how important it is for both clubs to put out their best in this match.
5277  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price guess, 2023 on: February 21, 2023, 12:00:02 AM
The 25k price benchmark is the biggest stronghold right now and once bitcoin brings the limit the rest will be history as 25k is where the resistance lies before 30k and possibly $40k and above.
-We only have this week and a few days in the next week for January to end, but so far it has been an awesome month for Bitcoin as the price of the coin have recovered greatly and a lot of market movement has been recorded in a positive dimension.
5278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 20, 2023, 11:58:40 PM
Arsenal shouldn't risk their championship chance anymore by making simple point losses from now on.

Of course the Premier League is challenging but they should be able to beat smaller teams as much as possible at this level. We are slowly getting close to the end of the season now. Simple mistakes can cause big problems for them. Manchester City are still the strongest team on paper so they would always be ready to take advantage of a chance. Arsenal should win their missing game as well to get more advantageous. I guess they can do it against Everton this time in the Emirates.
I think at this point,  Asernal is more concerned about winning the premier league as they have already gone past the most challenging stage in this competition and the remaining clubs that Asernal is going to face in the remaining days of this season may be very easy for them to defeat since there is no longer big clubs that can bring Asernal down easily.
-Manchester city is the strongest opposition to Asernal this season, but then man city has other clubs to focus on and the champions league also is a big distraction for Manchester City so Arsenal still has a better chance in the premiere league going forward.
5279  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦉 Owl.games 🦉 on: February 20, 2023, 11:39:51 PM
The owl games have been running for a long time, and their signature campaign has also been running for a long time, and their ANN thread section has locked threads so that they can improve their strategies in crypto gambling.

I hope that the new strategy that they will do will be good so that the support of gamblers who often gamble on their platform will double even more.

Before they think of creating a new strategy on how to maximize the popularity of their platform they should focus first on addressing the accusation in the scam section, the amount is 0.1 BTC and it's getting ugly until there's no update about the complaint.
They announce that they will resolve all issues through their support system, unfortunately, the complainant is not getting any answer from their support.
Yes, because the allegations regarding the existing 0.1BTC fraud problem greatly affect the reputation of the platform and affect the ongoing operation of the platform because many users start to distrust and then leave the platform itself.
What's more, this problem hasn't been resolved and victims still don't get definite clarity, which makes the reputation even worse and the sense of trust of all gamblers just disappears.
Even though the problem can be solved later, to be like before will be a little difficult because it is not easy to repair a reputation that has fallen and is claimed to be a bad reputation.
Until then if they decide to return to the forum I wish them the best of luck as this is some how strange because no matter the level of accusation against the casino instead of exciting their channels of communication it's better to stay and face whatever that is the present challenge and making sure to defeat them by resolving and coming out stronger.
-But then even though their site is very active, and support is also active but we are advised to only deposit an amount you can afford to lose on the casino and play with discretion in the case.
5280  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Kaduna would still accept old naira note on: February 20, 2023, 11:33:43 PM
Wahala no they finish for this country oh, governor for kaduna tell him people say old and new naira note go still they in use say make them no fear till the Supreme Court decide other wise, talk say any person or any facility wei reject they old naira note go face they consequences.
Visitors go choke for kaduna state oh.



Make we forget say this policy come with big shock but we know say e no bad at all especially if we fit implement am well wey be say big cash no go dey dey outside the banks again. Any transaction go be electronically wey be say, person fit obsessed where the money dey from and where him dey go. E go bad for some political propaganda as dem fit use this spying dey monitor person but some kind crime like kidnapping for reduced unless kidnappers go wise up they use cryptocurrency lol.
The matter surprise me oooo, the governor of Kaduna state Ahmed Nasir El-Rufai is a big shame and I do believe say a person who claimed to be a technocrat will speak against a policy like this and order his people to go against presidential order but I trust federal power, them no born El-Rufai well to do otherwise and the question be say the old naira no dey like that again even as he says to make people for Kaduna accept old notes, the question be say how many of the old naira note still dey people hand, bank don already collect most of ammm from people unless those politicians were donned stash large amount of the old note before this swap policy.
-I no expect this kind of level of criticism to be coming from members of the rolling party and I no expect strong party nan like El-Rufai to make such a negative outburst against a federal policy where many within his state are sacked from their homes due to terrorism, kidnapping and banditry which is one of the major areas were the currency swapping is targeted at.
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