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5281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 02:16:36 PM
5282  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dont follow *Anyone. Trolls, To-Da-Mooners, Falling, Sevvero, or *any Prophets on: October 06, 2014, 01:07:57 PM
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Haha.  Son, just incase you overlooked the username, (which should have given you a clue had you been in the habit of using your noggin), I was hand soldering and machine-code programming my own computer designs back when the Z80 processor first came out, just to throw a little perspective into your world view...

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue. You didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
5283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 12:12:12 PM
Good morning, gentlemen.  Nay, a GLORIOUS morning!

Yea,
though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me;
thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5284  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 11:44:58 AM
Riiise mofo, riiise. 

Planning to have fun with Mrs. Cypher?  Grin

Probably this

5285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dont follow *Anyone. Trolls, To-Da-Mooners, Falling, Sevvero, or *any Prophets on: October 06, 2014, 03:29:51 AM
[wall-o-text]
Dont bother replying with more of the same waffle, Im not going to counter every unproven assertion that you make, I just wanted to demonstrate how easy it is to do so.


Your laundry list of nerdly cliches has awakened the educator in me.  I will help!
Ramblings about Linux might have thralled them back at your podunk middle school, but we're mostly adults here.  We've heard it told before, and more than once.
Before you sperge out and start rattling off another page of tiresome cringe, remember: I say all this with great love.  Think of it as an edifying rap of a ruler against your filthy knuckles--to help the lesson stick.
Now for that lesson!

Understand what you wish to say before saying it.  Think of your words as a sniper's bullet, not as a spray of birdshot from Bubba's sawed-off.
Intelligence and originality can not be taught, but I can teach you to express your hand-me-down thoughts tersely.
I have high hopes for you, PseudoCode!

Now go and play.
5286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 01:04:00 AM
*boop*
5287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 12:13:27 AM
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Lol an island Cheesy Good luck getting You money back Wink If they flee

It's no more/less legit than all the Road Town/Tortola BVI registrations.  It's right in that neighborhood.

Edit: Not suggesting it is legit, if not obvious.
5288  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 05, 2014, 11:53:40 PM
Lolno.  Cypherdoc.  Editing now Cheesy
Done.
5289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 05, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
the manipulative ask walls have been so obvious that i hope it strengthens the remaining traders who should learn from this.

You're too smart for manipulators.  You understand everything they're trying to accomplish and know all their tells.  It's almost too easy 4 U.

5290  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 05, 2014, 11:12:57 PM
...aside from governments and banks, who else would be interested in driving down the price of bitcoin ... Perhaps I'm being paranoid.

Curses, you've seen right through my sinister ploy!
Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness?
5291  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 10:32:16 PM
Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp

So before I go to sleep.

What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?

Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?

Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.

Theories?

I guess he/they simple wants sell. Maybe speculated for a double bottom and failed. Now he wants to take the ~9,000,000 USD leave the game. I think: it's an offer, not bearish, not bullish, a simple offer.

It's bearish only in the sense that it invalidates all the "big players are paying premium prices, buying OTC to avoid slippage."

Only if it sells.. Smiley

Actually, just the opposite.  The wall being bought would mean that big players do want to buy large quantities without slippage.

Seriously. I´m sure all of the big players that are interested in buying huge chunks have 10 Mio+ laying around on Bitstamp (and on every other exchange to be sure) sitting in front of their computer24/7, just in case someone puts up a 30k BTC wall... And it´s weekend btw.
That wall has been around for a few hours on a Sunday. we´ll see how much longer it stays.

You trade large amounts without your cell ringing when the price hits your mark?
And you think it's some minnow risking 27k coin on a Sunday?

ehh, i was sarcastic about the part that people have millions of USD on every exchange just in case a opportunity arises to buy huge sum of coins without slippage.

Yes, sure.  But there was NO volume buying into the wall.  This would have to mean that the big guys have NO fiat on exchanges.  If that's the case, why?
5292  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 10:20:01 PM
Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp

So before I go to sleep.

What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?

Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?

Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.

Theories?

I guess he/they simple wants sell. Maybe speculated for a double bottom and failed. Now he wants to take the ~9,000,000 USD leave the game. I think: it's an offer, not bearish, not bullish, a simple offer.

It's bearish only in the sense that it invalidates all the "big players are paying premium prices, buying OTC to avoid slippage."

Only if it sells.. Smiley

Actually, just the opposite.  The wall being bought would mean that big players do want to buy large quantities without slippage.

Seriously. I´m sure all of the big players that are interested in buying huge chunks have 10 Mio+ laying around on Bitstamp (and on every other exchange to be sure) sitting in front of their computer24/7, just in case someone puts up a 30k BTC wall... And it´s weekend btw.
That wall has been around for a few hours on a Sunday. we´ll see how much longer it stays.

You trade large amounts without your cell ringing when the price hits your mark?
And you think it's some minnow risking 27k coin on a Sunday?
5293  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 10:13:43 PM
Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp

So before I go to sleep.

What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?

Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?

Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.

Theories?

I guess he/they simple wants sell. Maybe speculated for a double bottom and failed. Now he wants to take the ~9,000,000 USD leave the game. I think: it's an offer, not bearish, not bullish, a simple offer.

It's bearish only in the sense that it invalidates all the "big players are paying premium prices, buying OTC to avoid slippage."

Only if it sells.. Smiley

Actually, just the opposite.  The wall being bought would mean that big players do want to buy large quantities without slippage.
5294  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 10:09:59 PM
Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp

So before I go to sleep.

What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?

Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?

Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.

Theories?

I guess he/they simple wants sell. Maybe speculated for a double bottom and failed. Now he wants to take the ~9,000,000 USD leave the game. I think: it's an offer, not bearish, not bullish, a simple offer.

It's bearish only in the sense that it invalidates all the "big players are paying premium prices, buying OTC to avoid slippage."
5295  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: October 05, 2014, 09:50:56 PM
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Gold is the best analogy, because it is a (relatively) fixed volume (production is a small percentage of existing monetary gold), and relatively little is consumed.

What percentage of the total gold supply is mined yearly? <==not rhetorical, don't know

What percentage of total BTC supply is mined yearly? <==this one I know
5296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 05, 2014, 08:41:01 PM
Ok, so you got nothing.  Here's your cute pic.




Will post cute horses later!
5297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 05, 2014, 08:35:31 PM
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early adopters are shrewd.  and this is why you're here.  trying hard to establish your own stake by driving prices down to where you can pick up cheap coins.
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yada yada

What you fail to see, because you are so focused on short term price, is that chart above illustrates how approx half the bitcoin are being held. That measn you have an insane amount of investment in the ecosystem, not just in terms of cash but time and effort and fledgling businesses and a whole bunch of other stuff that all the bears just hand wave away.

It also means any plan to try and crash the market and buy all the coins is going to hit a wall. Which might be now, or it might be at $250 or $200 and it might be this week next week, next month or next year. Bitcoin has passed its tipping point though, each time we go through this cycle it gets more and more likely that ultimately post run up, there will be a trend reversal.

What cypher said about 32->2 is very true. Maybe you were around to see it, even if your account wasn't, but to see a 94% drop in an asset class that was so niche that *nobody* had heard of it, and that was pretty much solely used for black market trading, had no legal precedent, was traded on exchanges run by dudes who knew a bit of php and was awash with scams? That puts this bear market into perspective. Its a wholly expected sell off, driven primarily by classic market emotions and further fuelled by the aftermath of the massive capex investment in mining gear meaning miners are selling *everything* to try and ROI.

Those are facts. On top of that you have speculation about the motives of the various players in the market, rich smart powerful people, who know markets and know rubes and are operating free of the fetters of your typical market regulations. There is a *chance* that nothing nefarious is going on sure, but can you really say with confidence that nothing *is* going on? I can't categorically say that anything is happening but I do see (as illustrated) continued accumulation, bizarre market sell action where people are slamming big orders into the bid. Whipsaw action where a bunch of coins get dumped and then rebought. All this stuff smells fishy. You might see it differently though.

Then we have you, and all those other 'registered x/x/2014' accounts ("oh, but I lurked for ages....!") that have suddenly appeared, with what seems to be the sole goal of encouraging people to sell, jumping into any and all threads that suggest people should hold/buy and trying to discredit them. I've never seen such single mindedness in here before even from the perma-bulls (ref Edward50). There's no humanity, you never deviate from the message, you don't seem to even entertain the possibility of other outcomes.

Why are you so desperate for bitcoin to fail, why are you so desperate for everyone else to sell. Your justifications don't add up. Then finally when you encounter posts that start to reveal the bear case as being on shaky ground right about know you try and call into question the other guys sanity? Really?

You know what you might be right, the price might continue to drop all the way to zero. What if it does? You win? Win what? What is your actual point? You know bitcointalk is nothing. Its an internet message forum where people interested in a subject can discuss it. Why are you even here? Your carefully crafted persona impresses no-one but yourself, you aren't famous or important or special. You are a like a child at school that thinks there is nothing beyond the classroom walls. Wake up. Step outside. The sun will blind you.

Or just post cute horse pics. Thats funny, but the "I'm so special thing" is really boring.

Some facts:
1.  Never suggested that an unregulated market is free of "manipulation."  Manipulation is the very reason regulations came about.
2.  I'm not "desperate for Bitcoin to fail"--I still hold some coin.
3.  I never suggested that Bitcoin would go down to zero.
4.  I'm laughing at cypherdoc for his paranoid delusions re. nefarious entities of which he claims I'm either one, or whose employ I am in.
5.  I'm not looking for recognition or approval from you--your unjustified self-importance is just one of the reasons people troll you.
6.  It's no longer sunny, but I'm still outside, thanks for caring.

Finally, I have no idea where the data for the oft-quoted chart came from.  Checking the top three addys shows plenty of activity.
Care to show your work?

Tell me if I missed anything Smiley
5298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 06:59:13 PM
Rocketry again?
5299  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 05, 2014, 06:34:00 PM
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early adopters are shrewd.  and this is why you're here.  trying hard to establish your own stake by driving prices down to where you can pick up cheap coins.
...

It's a bit sad knowing that your condition could be symptomatically treated, if not outright cured.



Better living through modern chemistryTM
5300  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 06:17:29 PM
...Also, too early to buy?

Don't miss the boat!



Choo?
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