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5301  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: November 12, 2016, 08:20:01 AM
You can try bitcoin cloud mining, but unfortunately there are a lot of scam mining sites. Or you can invest through Blockchain in their first page ads. But for me, I only invest and save bitcoin and will sell after price more than $1000
Let me just rephrase that to "all of them are scam sites." Investing in cloud mining sites will only lead to loss. I don't recommend it. It will take a lot of time before you can get your ROI and surely they already have ran away even before you get your ROI. Investing and saving your bitcoins isn't a "steady" income at all. That's just waiting. It's like when you time deposit your money in the bank, just with higher profits. I think if you're looking for a steady income, you should actively do work and don't just put your money as an investment and then wait for it to grow.
You're so right about the cloud mining sites but I don't understand you're trying to say when you said "put your money as an investment and then wait for it to grow". Does that mean you recommend investing through Blockchain as said by LegendOF45?

Yeah cloud mining is not advisable. Investing is also not steady as you would have to wait for quite some time for your money to grow. If you're unlucky enough, you may not even get your investments back.

All investments are risky but the risk can be minimized if you do proper homework before investing your money and its always good to diversify your investments instead of putting money at a single place and if you do a proper research before investing then you can make good profits in future.
I know investing is risky and it just like doing business in the real world. I don't know how to mining and I don't know if investing on the page of blockchain as mention is also investing in cloud mining site that's why I'm asking cos if it just like cloud mining site. I guess I'm not interested. However, is there any place to make a safe investment?
Its really hard to find that mate any investment have its own risk its just up to you if how far the risk can you take you can try gambling investment play with the house its littlw earnings but it lessen the risk and its also a long term investment too.
5302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: November 12, 2016, 06:25:06 AM
I've been a gambler for a long time, may it be in casino, poker or sports betting but one thing is always certain, you may have the best analysis on the game you're betting but it will never be 100% sure you're gonna win. The best thing for a gambler in order to make some profit is to learn how to manage their bankroll as well as to stop tilting after a losing streak.
In doing gambling theres always a risk he good thing is you will able to have idea if you are using analysis making you to decide in a favorable way and make your bet to have some edge.
5303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to talk about BTC for friend or Family ?? Have a problem for understand this on: November 12, 2016, 06:22:37 AM
i have told my family and friends about bitcoin so many time and they seems to be interested but i don't know how can i explain to them how to earn because i think they will find it themselves it is too hard to earn bitcoin especially from faucets Grin one of my friend once told me that he want me to teach him how to earn it and i told him to do it on faucet first and he said he's getting lazy to solve captcha because he finds it boring Grin.
Thats the big problem mate when trying to help them they always wanted to have it in an easy ways they tend to think that its just a easy to earn but after showing them what they needed to do they always find reasons and show less interest.
5304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 12, 2016, 06:13:11 AM
I wanted to become rich, but I don't know if I can become rich with gambling. And I know there are some people who are having their luck at their best and became successful with their gambling career. But all of the sum up out of 100% of gamblers the percentage of those lucky people to become rich with gambling ranging 0.001% only, base on my estimation.

The percentage of lucky person is pretty low maybe it could be low than this one, being lucky with gambling and get rich with the help of it is really hard task, it's a beautiful dream of every player to hit the jackpot or won the lottery and get rich so quickly without any hard work.
Thats always the hope thats why more and more people are trying their luck hoping to have an easy money just relying on their luck maybe if one day jackpot got hit were going to be happy.
5305  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC keep rise again... on: November 11, 2016, 01:53:04 PM
Now its already over 700$, I think within 6 months, it might reach even $800, for some political reasons and after halving, it will become of huge value. Its pretty great and I love it. But if the value suddenly drops hugely, then, it will be pretty sad for all of us, I am sure
It can happen but not too much i guess for sure it should continue to rise up and we are expecting 1k dollar before the end of this year or in he first quarter hoping for the best value for my investment.
5306  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the minimum amount to start as a trader? on: November 11, 2016, 01:44:40 PM
What is the minimum amount to start as a trader?

You can try your luck on Yobit with as low as 10k sats but you can't deposit less than 0.002 on the site. If you can afford to lose that amount you should try it for getting some experience at least, but first you should say good bye to your money and if you feel that you are okay with that than try to trade, why not.

That is right, and this is also the advice I give to a new trader. Just try in small amounts,if you lose never mind but do not lose the lesson. The best way to learn trading is by doing it yourself. Build confidence.
Wow coming from my guider before yes experience would be the big help learning the trade and you are already inside the forum so everything else you need would be searchable here..
5307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 11, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
I will pick Charlotte Hornets straight @1.73 over Toronto Raptors, although this fight will get very close result but it has advantage to have this meeting on home court that is the reason I have Charlotte Hornets and I'm quite sure about this.
Wow very hard to say if hornets got some good advantage but like what youve said its a good advantage when team is playing at home and the season still too early so many things can happen lets hope for this and give it a try. Good luck buds will use this added with my parlay with okc.
5308  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I use Bitcoin ??? on: November 11, 2016, 01:36:34 PM
In this time most of the currencies are here,so why i use Bitcoin? what you feel the different between Bitcoin and the other currencies?
There are no difference between bitcoin and other currencies i use bitcoin as money to invest in the internet and to have good profit every month in trading and in investments , And whenever i earn or not the extra amount of bitcoin is always converted into fiat money and then use it for purposes.
I guess thats the best way to use bitcoin since that the coin itself was already an investment because of the current fluctuation and more and more adoption coming from the internet so bitcoin is very usuable if looking for good earnigs.
5309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: November 11, 2016, 01:31:49 PM
Could be a big pump today as everything else is stagnant or dropping
Glad to place my entry yeaterday and good positive price hike today sell the half and wait for another half seeing that price still in the ultrend position. Thanks dev team and good luck.
5310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] VOXELS (VOX) | The Official Coin of Virtual Reality and Voxelus Platform on: November 11, 2016, 01:28:34 PM
too much disappointment with this coin. maybe it go below 500 sats
Its too bad if the price will drop to that but if project show some progress i guess its better to place some good entry and if got lucky will be earn good profits. Lett see and chase how deep the price will go.
5311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ZEC] ZCASH - All coins are created equal. Discussion Thread (Unofficial) on: November 11, 2016, 01:25:19 PM
In fact the profit of mining ZEC dropped, so that is a good sign... diff move higher... profit for miners dropping... price should move up
The way its showing right now price really falling and i dont know if my assessment is right to place my entry or wait until it drop again to .25 or lower.
5312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: November 11, 2016, 01:19:14 PM
Its maybe playing a part but to be honest its not playing a very big part for gambling because its all about the luck you are having, without luck you are not winning so its not really about the experience.
No man, it's important.. It's like in sports where young teams meet the veteran team, of course the veteran team has a good chance of winning as they have been in the situation many time due to experience, although young team are more aggressive but veteran team has the right timing.
Thats right mate timing is also important with gambling and experience played the best the more you know the game the better you can expect or assess how to win. Thats how important experience help any gambler for my opinion.
5313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: November 11, 2016, 01:09:29 PM
There is really no such an "easy" when you already used to it and started to being addicted to it, but the real issue here is that if someone could this obviously you also can. It's about accepting defeat and move on.

Right, it is really not easy to give up, socially for addicted person. I know that i am not addicted person but instead of it i never accept my lose. And in this way, i was doing more bets to recover our lose, Than i realized it was more bad way, better is that accept our lose, and don't play again and again to recording lose, Just quit it on the time. Next day, play it with a new hope and forget the past.     
Thats really not good mate because it will bring more and more loses i guess it is needed to make some more assessment if you cant handle to stop better to limit loses by placing little amount of money to spend.
5314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DBIC] DubaiCoin-DBIC | PAYMENT GATEWAY DBIC-EX دبي كوين on: November 11, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
Vote on poloniex for dbic. i am in crypto since 2013  and i never see any project like this from which we can buy gold buy diamonds this project really progressing well and with good very good support .All will soon see 100k or above price of this coin.  IN SHA ALLAH

plz link for vote.very nice news.i wait 60k
Wow i guess this is it the long wait is now finally showing better to hold more and wait for the real value of this project.
5315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: November 11, 2016, 12:52:27 PM
zcash would   definitely dump  its  price  for  how many  months, as  ive  read  on the   other  thread  its  really a ZCRASH Wink I don't   have   trust  on this coins  and its  not  advisable   to  engage  into  it and  I feel  sorry  for those  who  invest  on  earlier   time  and  now  they would  really wait  to break even their losses.
Another huge downfall cant really say if how deep we are going to expect now but i would try placing mine at another .25 or less lets see if price will bounce back again and made some good profits.
5316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Panic sellers got flushed fast on: November 11, 2016, 12:48:13 PM
Or maybe panic buyers are keeping the market afloat until Black Friday  Cheesy

It's going to go up... the us ellection is insane no matter how it goes, hillary wins, it will cause a lot of frustration in trump camp, trump wins, it will cause a lot of disruption in the markets... btc goes up in any case.

You sure about that? I'm not so confident it would go up in either case. I'm not really sure the outcome of the election would have any significant effect on the price.

i would have agreed with you a while ago but i have been seeing a lot of talk about this in the past weeks that makes me doubt it.

bitcoin is known to be affected by the hype, and hype is what most people are talking about. it doesn't have to be necessarily a real thing.

for example halving made price go as high as $780, granted a rise was overdue but the rise of that size was unreal at that time and halving effect is being felt now not back at the time of price rise.

I got your point, it makes sense as well.

If theres a news we will expect some rise up we dont need to panic and make assumption we need to double check what would be the impact so we can make a good entry and exit to have some good profits.
5317  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: November 10, 2016, 11:57:13 AM
Did not now the Christmas season produces more trading volume. Gotta be prepared for this year!

You always learn something new here. Thanks.
How can you ensure that during Christmas there's more volume of bitcoins? I do think the other way, because some might not trade but probably will cash out their money especially when the price is good right now and when this will continue by the end of the year.

I have to agree with him. There will be less trading and there will be more of selling. This could lose the value of the coin. But we are not really sure. Depends on how will people behave. One more possibility is people buying their gifts in online store using bitcoin, that could be good for the coin will still be intact. Lot of possibilities and I think it is good as long as it is spent bitcoin.

the possibility that the value will be more higher would be because of more investors to come in since they going to get some holiday bonuses and trade will be more alive when more and more investors will come in.
5318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PSB] Pesobit, Philippine-based crypto on: November 10, 2016, 11:51:51 AM
The application for business merchant of coins.ph has been established.
This means we can now offer a service in the Online wallet that allows a user to convert their Pesobit to Philippine Peso cash out using coins.ph options. It will follow next business day crediting though just like coins.ph.
I will check the withdrawal options, what banks can you send the funds to etc.
As for the transaction fee, it will be lesser than the BTC<->Peso conversion fee percentage of coins.ph
It could be that there will be an option for funds to be sent directly to your coins.ph wallet as Philippine Peso so you can withdraw it on your own but there could also be an option for direct bank withdrawal at least for those whose coins.ph accounts are limited but we could put up some limits to conform with the KYC policies.

ETA: Soon as I still have to check all the options and functionalities that can be put in place.

However, this doesn't mean that our only mode of cashout is via coins.ph. Vmoney announced our partnership with them few days ago so it is also being handled. Direct bank connection is also being worked on.

Why have all these cash-out options?
All of them have their own fees, advantages and policies. There will be some users who will prefer coins.ph due to their btc wallet connection and numerous cash-out options, some might prefer the direct bank connection as funds that are being converted are already withdrawable via the ATM and some might prefer VMoney solution due to their reloadable Debit Card, tap-to-pay solution for merchants etc.

Wallet withdrawal has been changed as well, all sending of Pesobit will be initially sent to Pending status. Then every 15 minutes, there's a scheduled task that will run to check all the Pending orders and mark them completed or invalid as there are some who happen to have a mistake in entering PSB address (entered BTC address instead) and others.

EDIT: Just to clarify, we applied as a business merchant with coins.ph so Pesobit won't be directly accepted by coins.ph. We're allowed to use their services for business operations.
nice update dev i see another positive response from here i will expect more uptrend to come better to hold and buy some more.
5319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage on: November 10, 2016, 07:24:35 AM
i seen some positive movement again coming from the downfall is there any good news that we will going to expect or is just
a normal way of traders playing with it.
5320  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will it working? on: November 10, 2016, 07:16:34 AM
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If I will make bitstamp.net bot which will automatically sell/buy BTC on price changing for example: if bitcoin price change on -10 cents - BUY and then wait until it +20 cents in price and SELL.
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you are not considering the most important thing, ask yourself these:
- Will price go down -10 cents or will it go down -10 dollars
- or will it go up and never go down
- and what if it went down -10 cents and never went up +20 cents

trading is not as easy as you may think. you should buy when you think it is going to go up not at current price -10 cent or whatever!
that's right there's a lots of things that is needed to consider mate bot will help but your main experience needs first master the manual trading before you use the bot in that way you will be more familiar with certain movement and you will able to know reason why you need to go in and why you need to go out its the basic principle since we are dealing with our money.
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