Watched it with my 74 year old mother. I liked it but thought it ended rather abruptly but I guess that had to do with them just trying to wrap it up and get it out the door.
She knows a little bit about Bitcoin but she said that afterwards she still doesn't think she knows any more about it than before she watched it. She kept asking how the companies in the movie were making money and I think the coverage of Silk Road and the drug dealer made her uneasy, she said afterwards that the movie made bitcoin sound kinda scary (being older and being in that mindset of believing the banks and drug war and all that).
I have to agree with you. I watched it for the second time with a couple of friends because I thought the movie showed a nice normal guy with a wife and kids loving Bitcoin. The part they focused on was the drug dealer. After the movie they said they didn't see a reason to use it because the things they do with money they can do right now. One of them said that if he was a drug user he would definitely use it. I gave up the appropriate defenses to that comment but that didn't work. Knowing they would never use Bitcoin, I just turned it into a joke asking them if they like booty. Don't you like booty? If you use Bitcoin it will definitely get you booty. |
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You are seriously messed up in the head.
I honestly can't see how this is even up for debate any more, given the consistent textbook display of egotism by Mr. Zerlan. Best thing we can do is just keep them talking on these forums. Counter-trolling with logic, reason, and facts is so much more productive than being incendiary, I must admit. Thieves and con-artists don't care. They obviously are egomaniacs because they believe their superior intelligence will win against legal institutions operated by Harvard law graduates. Thieves are also devoid of conscience and feel no remorse for their actions. They're more apt to feel angry at being caught than they are to feel sympathy for their victim. Confidence men wallow in a pool of lies and deceit that spans decades of their pathetic life, forever looking over their shoulder. Josh reminds me of a story about a liar. He told the lie about his big ranch in Texas so many times that he went back to Texas to check on it and was shocked when it wasn't there. I don't think all con artists are like this. What you are describing is psychopaths who have no remorse for their actions that hurt others. I would say that some con artists do made an argument to themselves that what they are doing is not wrong and would, in theory, stop their actions if they are convinced otherwise. I'm good with that definition. Josh is a psychopath. Yeah, that works for me. |
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This is not an issue that needs addressing, imho. And bitcoiners of all people should understand that. Disclosing the address(es) used for payment could lead to significant breaches of privacy.
IIRC, the Shrem Karpelès & Friends Foundation explicitly promised that all the bitcoins sent to them would be received at that address, as part of their pledge to be transparent. Am I wrong? TBF is a 501c3 nonprofit, they don't have a choice but to report it or they're breaking the law. Have a look: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/static/2014/05/Bitcoin-2013-990-PDC.pdf |
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lock this thread? anyone?
Receive motion and second. It has been moved and seconded the meeting be adjourned. All in favor say 'Aye.. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2oct3zeTMPeople of the Earth can you hear me? Came a voice from the sky on that magical night And in the colors of a thousand sunsets They traveled through the world on a silvery light The people of the Earth stood waiting Watching as the ships came one by one Setting fire to the sky as they landed Carrying to the world children of the sun Children of the sun All at once came a sound from the inside Then a beam made of light hit the ground Everyone felt the sound of their heartbeat Every man, every woman, every child They passed the limits of imagination Through the doors to a world of another time And on the journey of a thousand lifetimes With the children of the sun, they started to climb Children of the sun, children of the sun No more gravity, nothing holding them down Floating endlessly as their ship leaves the ground Through the walls of time, at the speed of light Flies the crystal ships on their celestial flight
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[6/13/2014 11:46:22 PM] Joshua: Hi,
My name is joshua zipkin Joshua Zipkin. I own a company which makes and sells bitcoin mining equipment. It's a
competitive market, and a new technology. We've encountered a few problems along the way, but
we are doing our best to make our company one of the best in the industry.
From February first1, 2014, a man by the name of Bruno Kasinskus as has threatened my family, religion, race
and heritage on a public forum known as bitcoin talk bitcointalk. He was said numerious numerous things which have
motivated others to gang up against myself on me and my company simply because of the fact that we are
jews. He came to our office and we met in person, I confronted him on the matter and promised to
stop. I served him wigh with a seice cease and desist letter. A week later he continued and still has not stopped. His
comments, posts, regarding my father and our religion in general are appoualing appalling. He is a from
Illionoi Illinois and we have no problem paying for a suit again suing him. / I've never threatened Joshua Zipkin or his family, and ain't have a clue as to how to go about threatening a releigion, race or heritage, whether it's on a public forum or where ever. Is Josh Zipkin injecting Red Bull directly into his bloodstream? My 11 year old could have written a more comprehensible letter. I thought it would be worth noting, a picture is worth a thousand words. Take a look at the picture below and ask the question again.  No comment. I don't want a hitman showing up at my door. |
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Wow ! I can only say WOW ! If I have too much money, I am sure I will donate like this. Bitcoin will be bigger in future and you will be glad at the end.
There was NO donation, it was a kind of Troll Thread to make a point, read : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621770.msg6891010#msg6891010Someone should lock this old thread or edit its title  I think, in his own way, Bruno is attempting to let everyone know that deals are being made in Bitcoin just like they are made in fiat with a handshake in a back room. Everything that everyone hates about the closed door hidden processes that control government money is happening in the Bitcoin space. Big business is taking over Bitcoin at an alarming rate. It's very likely that from this point forward you will never really know the true direction Bitcoin is going unless someone like Bruno finds out and starts bitching about it. Sure, let's lock the information away so no one sees it. |
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You are seriously messed up in the head.
I honestly can't see how this is even up for debate any more, given the consistent textbook display of egotism by Mr. Zerlan. Best thing we can do is just keep them talking on these forums. Counter-trolling with logic, reason, and facts is so much more productive than being incendiary, I must admit. Thieves and con-artists don't care. They obviously are egomaniacs because they believe their superior intelligence will win against legal institutions operated by Harvard law graduates. Thieves are also devoid of conscience and feel no remorse for their actions. They're more apt to feel angry at being caught than they are to feel sympathy for their victim. Confidence men wallow in a pool of lies and deceit that spans decades of their pathetic life, forever looking over their shoulder. Josh reminds me of a story about a liar. He told the lie about his big ranch in Texas so many times that he went back to Texas to check on it and was shocked when it wasn't there. |
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The biggest problem that I see is a willingness to break the law and not attempt to be compliant. How can you trust a business that is willing to skirt regulation? I can sympathize with individuals that feel the legal system is unjust and possibly even ignore the law. The only person they're hurting if caught is themselves. Businesses don't have that luxury. They need to be above board all the time because they are risking the money of customers. The two founders of that company came from BitInstant. Bitinstant skirted the law. Was that the doing of one individual, a company policy or a shared cultural view of all employees? There's no way to know. Just realize who you're getting into bed with before you do it.
Erik Voorhees from what I understand is either an anarchist or libertarian and has never hid that fact. Our "kind" doesn't care so much for laws and regulations as much as ethics. Investors should be cognizant that there are risks and rewards to dealing with anarchists as avoiding regulation presents opportunities and risks of state actors attacking you. I have no problem investing capital in anarchists I know. I think he has just taken on too much and has good intentions to deliver, but I suppose time will tell. That's it, as long as you're willing to risk your money along with him. It's all good. Just don't expect a company like Circle to get into bed with them. It probably won't happen. We could debate the ethics of risking the money of uninformed people for profit but I'd rather not. Good luck. Circle is such a great company and works so fast they will crush them anyway. |
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I'm merely suggesting that if one depends upon an centralized exchange, one should at least know who the owners are. From what I understand about reading those two links Eric was attacked by the SEC and thus has been slow to deliver on FeedZeBirds? This could be because he used all the money between lawyers/fines , or he has been caught up in paperwork and projects, or potentially it was a scam from the get go. I would tend to think it is the first 2 reasons and seems like he is merely stretching himself too thin over different projects, but I can also empathize with you because I haven't seen any recent updates in a while concerning the project either so at minimum he needs to improve upon his relationship with investors. The biggest problem that I see is a willingness to break the law and not attempt to be compliant. How can you trust a business that is willing to skirt regulation? I can sympathize with individuals that feel the legal system is unjust and possibly even ignore the law. The only person they're hurting if caught is themselves. Businesses don't have that luxury. They need to be above board all the time because they are risking the money of customers. The two founders of that company came from BitInstant. Bitinstant skirted the law. Was that the doing of one individual, a company policy or a shared cultural view of all employees? There's no way to know. Just realize who you're getting into bed with before you do it. |
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Hi inBitweTrust, Coinbase charges a 1% fee on top of their spread to buy and sell. Correct?
Coinapult charges no fees, pure spread.
Sure, but that is the fee to ach it to your bank account, just like the fee for a wire transfer with your service. If someone wanted lock their BTC to a certain fiat price and keep that fiat with a third party than why not simply use an exchange? BTC-e charges a 0.2% fee bitstamp is 0.5% to 0.2% kraken is 0.35% to 0.1% So if I were to "lock" and "unlock" on btc right now I would pay 7.52 usd with coinapult 1.89 fee x2 + 2 dollar spread = 5.78 with bitstamp 0.74 x 2 fee + 0.14 dollar spread = 1.62 with btc-e 1.31 x 2 fee + 7.27 dollar spread = 9.89 with kraken (yours is better than kraken) Am I missing something here ? Hmmm... perhaps the locks and unlocks is just another way to spin what a normal exchange does and the real decision on which exchange to use has more to deal with a trust issue , and how easy it is to get cash into the exchange, and the fees. I would certainly trust an exchange more with holding fiat if I knew who the owners were.... thus I would trust coinapult above btc-e. Who operates bitstamp? Really? You would trust them more if you knew who the owners were? https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/us-sec-fines-erik-voorhees-unregistered-bitcoin-ipos/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82866.msg7114155#msg7114155 |
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I value the coin at what it is currently valued at, just like any other currency that I am using. It is worth as much as it is worth at that moment.
The value of a single coin should be the mean figure of what all its users value it at. what I'm trying to get across is: the way the current price is decided by the biggest exchanges is... flawed, aka not a real representation of most peoples opinion and maybe there could be a better way to determine the average price than a bid/ask system? Right now it's $380.21. Bitcoin, like all things in life, is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay you for it. |
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[6/13/2014 11:46:22 PM] Joshua: Hi,
My name is joshua zipkin Joshua Zipkin. I own a company which makes and sells bitcoin mining equipment. It's a
competitive market, and a new technology. We've encountered a few problems along the way, but
we are doing our best to make our company one of the best in the industry.
From February first1, 2014, a man by the name of Bruno Kasinskus as has threatened my family, religion, race
and heritage on a public forum known as bitcoin talk bitcointalk. He was said numerious numerous things which have
motivated others to gang up against myself on me and my company simply because of the fact that we are
jews. He came to our office and we met in person, I confronted him on the matter and promised to
stop. I served him wigh with a seice cease and desist letter. A week later he continued and still has not stopped. His
comments, posts, regarding my father and our religion in general are appoualing appalling. He is a from
Illionoi Illinois and we have no problem paying for a suit again suing him. / I've never threatened Joshua Zipkin or his family, and ain't have a clue as to how to go about threatening a releigion, race or heritage, whether it's on a public forum or where ever. Is Josh Zipkin injecting Red Bull directly into his bloodstream? Is he developmentally disabled? My 11 year old could have written a more comprehensible letter. |
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Haha r3wt, I love how Blazr came back and just left you negative feedback. But you do deserve negative feedback for a variety of things you've done, or failed to do.Any thoughts on if they're behind the phishing sprees a month or so ago? Email me if you do Says the guy with this feedback rating: Trust: -1121: -26 / +29(29)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
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By all mean this is an open forum. Unless you're trying to drum up more traffic to your business website. I just want to know what his plans are for life after Butterfly Labs. I mean the dude wrote the book on career suicide in the internet age, so it's going to be quite the interesting case-study. If he follows current patterns he'll probably go to work for Payza. |
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It was an interesting look back at Bitcoin from a devoted fan. Mross clearly loves Bitcoin and walked the audience through the life of the loyal supporter. He followed many of the major issues that happened in the first couple of years. I was shocked by the fact that Charlie Shrem, throughout the movie and long before he was ever officially in trouble, kept saying over and over that he needs to be compliant and he doesn't want to go to jail. When my kids keep worrying about something like that it usually means they know they've done something wrong and they're afraid. That was the only new info in the movie for me. I think the movie presented Bitcoin in an honest light. It wasn't just a fanboy movie but really followed the ecosystem, both good and bad. If I could change anything I probably would have presented more of Roger Ver's story considering he was the first big money believer and spent more time on BitPay and business adoption.
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Let's see TOR was a NSA project (Naval Intelligence under NSA)
Most crypto think tanks and players have been funded by groups or projects that lead back to the NSA, whose job it is to be a central depository for crypto related ideas and development.
NSA most likely have insiders in any crypto related project and if Satoshi was a project, it doesn't really matter now.
It is the currency of the underground, drugs (often connected to CIA) and gambling (SEALS with Clubs is that a possble reference to Navy Seals or Naval Intelligence).
Unless you are doing huge numbers and hanging out in the USA I guess it doesn't matter if they can track who is really moving btc around.
Will they steal from wallets? I doubt it, their abilities are most likely just related to tracking movement if they have any involvement at all.
Who knows, maybe they are btc and using the dough for black ops projects.
As long as your own btc wallet is secure and the users keep coming into the network, the value is real.
All crypto related players and projects eventually lead back to intelligence org's IMO and they have back doors in Windows and most OS's now, so the spooks know who you are. Just read the Snowden doc's on how backdoored ECC is now. The spooks know everything, if you are outside the USA and not doing drugs, I doubt they will ever bother you over btc. No one has explained yet how Silk Road fell, his lawyer motioned for docs to show the original breach in TOR or BTC that led to him. No response yet, it may be the NSA.
So what if you're not doing anything major that is illegal.
It was a flaw in the website captcha. No it wasn't. That's what they said, but I believe it's been rebutted by the defendants. *unwatches thread* It's highly likely that the captcha went out to the open web for info and this was used to pinpoint his IP. Then again it could have been alien involvement. Either way he's just as fucked because they caught him with all the incriminating evidence in his possession. I have a feeling that it was slightly more advanced then when the FBI said in their declaration. Even if it was the captcha it was almost certainly more then someone manually entering manual letters in the captcha. Ross had people attempt to pentest SR for him (they at least did pentest it and reported back to him) and I find it hard to believe that this would not be previously discovered. I also vaguely remember reading about someone saying something about a rumor about someone warning Ross about the IP of the VPN/VPS that he used to connect to SR's servers shortly before the FBI was able to get a warrant to search the VPS (I am pretty sure it was a VPS) and when the FBI was able to search the contents of it, the server had it's contents wiped clean I don't think it really matters. He's never going to see the light of day again. http://www.wired.com/2014/10/silk-road-judge-technicality/ |
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As usual, you are wrong. The idea that the FPGAs singles were made by another company is laughable. Have you ever been right about anything?
I've always wondered, do those ankle bracelets itch? Can you shower with it on? |
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Let's see TOR was a NSA project (Naval Intelligence under NSA)
Most crypto think tanks and players have been funded by groups or projects that lead back to the NSA, whose job it is to be a central depository for crypto related ideas and development.
NSA most likely have insiders in any crypto related project and if Satoshi was a project, it doesn't really matter now.
It is the currency of the underground, drugs (often connected to CIA) and gambling (SEALS with Clubs is that a possble reference to Navy Seals or Naval Intelligence).
Unless you are doing huge numbers and hanging out in the USA I guess it doesn't matter if they can track who is really moving btc around.
Will they steal from wallets? I doubt it, their abilities are most likely just related to tracking movement if they have any involvement at all.
Who knows, maybe they are btc and using the dough for black ops projects.
As long as your own btc wallet is secure and the users keep coming into the network, the value is real.
All crypto related players and projects eventually lead back to intelligence org's IMO and they have back doors in Windows and most OS's now, so the spooks know who you are. Just read the Snowden doc's on how backdoored ECC is now. The spooks know everything, if you are outside the USA and not doing drugs, I doubt they will ever bother you over btc. No one has explained yet how Silk Road fell, his lawyer motioned for docs to show the original breach in TOR or BTC that led to him. No response yet, it may be the NSA.
So what if you're not doing anything major that is illegal.
It was a flaw in the website captcha. No it wasn't. That's what they said, but I believe it's been rebutted by the defendants. *unwatches thread* It's highly likely that the captcha went out to the open web for info and this was used to pinpoint his IP. Then again it could have been alien involvement. Either way he's just as fucked because they caught him with all the incriminating evidence in his possession. |
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