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5321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: February 12, 2020, 09:57:23 PM
-snip- I think it's more likely that we'll sign either Kanté or Camavinga in the summer, just to give Casemiro a bit of rest and competition.
Agree. There is no need to sign Pogba because Real Madrid has some attacker Midfielders. The focus must be on how to find out someone to backup for Casemiro. Real Madrid will be in a problem when Casemiro is not in good condition since they have no other good defensive midfielders. I mean someone who is a pure defensive midfielder.
5322  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Google Searches of Bitcoin on: February 12, 2020, 09:43:11 PM
Google Searches of bitcoin is up 33% because of the trending market price of 10,000$
Not a surprising thing, as people must be attracted to see the progress of Bitcoin price this time. And most passive BTC holders will decide to analyze and grab information related to the potential move on Bitcoin. On the other hand, there will be some newcomers who are learning many sources and reading current news in order to prepare to join BTC investment. Most of them seem to have the intention to try their luck because of following Hype on social media. So, simply the keyword "Bitcoin", will rise up! 
5323  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Ethereum on: February 12, 2020, 09:36:29 PM
-snip- pada saat harga Bitcoin ... 250Jt (pada tanggal 07 Desember 2017) harga ETH .. 0.03 BTC. Sedangkan pada saat ETH ... 0.1 BTC, harga BTC ... 160Jt (tanggal 28 januari 2018) dan di level harga 35Jt (30 Mei 2017) -snip-
Oke suhu. Berarti dengan fakta tersebut bisa kita simpulkan bahwa tinggi rendahnya harga ETH tidak selalu bergantung pada nilai harga BTC. Tetapi lebih kepada trend ETH pada saat itu, plus bagaimana supply dan demand nya di market.

Namun menurut saya, untuk perkembangan harga ETH dan altcoins secara keseluruhan saat ini, erat kaitannya dengan peningkatan nilai BTC. Sebab jika dilihat sebelumnya (ketika pergerakan harga BTC cenderung pasif), harga ETH dan altcoins lainnya terlihat sulit merangkak naik.

-snip- menurut saya tidak ada yang namanya harga sebenarnya/seharusnya, karena didalam market crypto akan selalu tercipta fluktuasi sehingga sudah sewajarnya jika harga terus berubah-ubah mengikuti perbandingan demand dan supply yang muncul didalam market crypto tersebut.
Saya setuju dengan suhu. Tidak ada istilahnya "harga standar" untuk suatu koin crypto, sebab pada dasarnya koin crypto itu nilainya selalu berfluktuasi. Dengan karakter nya yang seperti itu, kita tidak akan menemukan stabilitas harga koin crypto pada titik tertentu. Stablecoin pun nilainya juga tidak menetap di titik tertentu, walaupun tentu nilai/harga stablecoin tidak signifikan perubahannya.  
5324  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [EDUKASI] Memahami Cryptocurency Dengan Pemahaman Sederhana on: February 12, 2020, 08:34:18 PM
Hal apa saja yang menjadi faktor-faktor penyebab fluktuasi harga cryptocurrency.
Sejauh yang saya pahami, ada beberapa hal yang dapat mempengaruhi naik turunnya harga crypto (fluktuasi harga). Di antaranya adalah sebagai berikut:

1. Supply-demand di market 
Ketersediaan jumlah koin di market dan permintaan yang ada terkait dengan koin tersebut merupakan hal dasar yang bisa mempengaruhi harga. Biasanya jika permintaan (demand) tinggi sedangkan supply nya terbatas, maka harga akan cenderung tinggi. Namun jika supply melimpah sedangkan demandnya sedikit, maka harga akan cenderung turun.

2. Whales (pump-dump)
Faktor whales adalah salah satu faktor yang juga cukup dominan pada market crypto. Yang paling sering kita biacarakan terkait aksinya, yaitu aktifitas pump-dump harga suatu koin di market/exchanger. Whales dengan powernya, mampu membuat harga naik dengan pesat, dan juga bisa menurunkan harga suatu koin dengan cukup signifikan.

3. Berita (news) yang berkaitan dengan crypto
Berita yang muncul terkait dengan isu crypto saat ini atau isu tentang masa depan crypto, biasanya bisa berdampak terhadap harga koin crypto. Hal ini dapat berpengaruh karena bisa saja membuat para holder koin-koin crypto panik dan memutuskan menjual koin mereka. Walaupun biasanya yang terpengaruh rata-rata adalan para beginner, bukan crypto user/holder yang berpengalaman.

4. Regulasi dan adopsi crypto
Informasi tentang perkembangan regulasi dan adopsi crypto pada negara-negara yang ada di dunia biasanya juga mempunyai pengaruh terhadap harga. Terutama terkait dengan regulasi crypto pada negara-negara besar seperti Cina, Rusia, Amerika, dan lainnya.
5325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: As a Bounty hunter, don't expect too much on: February 12, 2020, 04:42:08 PM
If you are following bounty paid in new altcoins, you mustn't expect too much. Why? All people should understand about the current condition of new altcoins. Most new coins from ICO, STO, IEO are hard to survive with appropriate values on the market. After fundraising commonly they ended with dump prices on exchanges. So, with this condition how we can earn profits. It is not only the problem for bounty hunters, but it also experienced by investors.
5326  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: ASK on: February 11, 2020, 11:56:19 PM
-snip- ICO/IEO bukan pilihan tepat untuk investasi saat ini. -snip-
Benar sekali, terlalu beresiko memilih koin ICO/IEO, apalagi untuk kondisi saat ini. Entah itu dari proyek lokal ataupun global, semuanya sama saja. Yang bagus dari ICO/IEO saat ini cuman iming-imingnya saja. Faktanya, rata-rata harga koin/token ICO maupun IEO hancur lebur di market. Daripada memilih token/koin yang kemungkinan gagal untuk investasi, kenapa gak pilih koin top saja yang jelas mulai merangkak naik. Banyak pilihan juga kan, koin-koin seperti BTC, ETH, EOS, atau BNB coin sangat layak untuk dipertimbangkan. Momennya juga saya rasa tepat, walaupun tentu DWYOR ya.  Wink
5327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Another wallet key lost. on: February 11, 2020, 11:47:46 PM
No backup of phrase or the private key of the wallet even from the application? Wow, so careless. If he has that big amount of funds, he should have known to be careful and smart in managing his asset. Moreover, this is about the very basic thing that must be understood. If you have no ph or pk, it means you don't own the wallet. Simple. But yeah, everybody has different characteristics. This can be a big lesson for all members here to be more careful. Save the important data and make backup always.
5328  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin withdrawal fee is damn high in exchanges! on: February 11, 2020, 11:38:47 PM
It is a very common problem of BTC, high fees. Well, BTC is the most precious crypto. Every exchange can earn more money from this coin. We know that everyone loves Bitcoin and willing to have the coin even by withdrawing them.
To cover this situation, commonly I will convert the BTC to other coins that have low fees for withdrawal. then, converting it again after on the other exchanges. However, if it is sent to your wallet, that will be the risk, the high fee to be included.
5329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BTC is bigger than the rest of the crypto market combined on: February 11, 2020, 11:31:01 PM
"Nobody outside of "full-time" crypto cares about anything other than BTC.
Simple, but it is true.

BTC is always considered as the most promising and trusted cryptocurrency that will always stand by itself to have a bigger ad bigger community again. Bitcoin may have a bigger fee, longer speed of transaction, high volatility, and other downsides. But, BTC still holds the most precious coin to hold, invest, and also trade. The value of BTC cannot be ignored. This is real and everybody trusts this coin.
5330  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Project's website is asking private keys of the holders. on: February 11, 2020, 11:22:28 PM
A private key is something privacy as the name. Giving a private key to another party or person means that you risk your funds on the wallet.
Giving PK means that your wallet is not secured again. If a project wants to do that and asking about your Private key, I think that it is very strange. They seem to be a scammer, very smooth. Be careful when someone or party is asking your private key. Never give it to them.
5331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would make you stop gambling? on: February 09, 2020, 11:28:00 PM
If you did a huge mistake then there's a possibility for you to quit gambling. -snip-
Of course, but will people quit from gambling just after did huge mistake? For example, lose your family/real-life job because of a huge debt. I think people don't quit for these reasons, they should be aware of the risks and know the limit.

-snip- My purpose of gambling is just an entertainment, you shouldn't gambling for profit only -snip-
Whatever the purpose is okay as long as you know the risk and limit. Most people seem to gamble for money, so we don't deny that gambling is for profits. If you just gamble to entertain yourself, it is no problem. But I doubt many people do as you did.
5332  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SCENARIO BEHIND BITCOIN on: February 09, 2020, 11:18:41 PM
-snip- Bitcoin is by far one of the most transparent asset available today. The underlying blockchain technology is by far more transparent than our traditional financial systems. -snip- 
Yes. Bitcoin provides a more transparent system and not to control by a single person or institution. The traditional financial system has a lot of weakness that harms many people. People must be bored with this situation, then Satoshi offered the solution with Blockchain and Bitcoin.

-snip- There are thousands of posts on the forum discussing satoshis identity but at the end of the day -snip- 
Correct. And why other people always asking his identity? Actually I think they are likely looking for something with spreading this question. All people must know that Satoshi must hide his identity for various purposes. So, why bother him?  Roll Eyes
5333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: February 09, 2020, 11:06:02 PM


The current results on Real Madrid/Barcelona Matches didn't change the position on the table since they both won the matches. Real Madrid can win convincingly by scoring 4 goals, while Barcelona experienced a tight match (almost got a draw result). I think Barcelona is not in good performance lately. Cheesy  
5334  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] KEBERLANSUNGAN FORUM DISKUSI BITCOINTALK.ORG & MEMBER-NYA on: February 09, 2020, 10:43:46 PM
1. User enggan membayar untuk mengaktifkan akun
Kebanyakan member Indonesia hanya mencari yang gratisan. Jarang yang mendaftar menjadi copper member seperti suhu mu_enrico. Selama mereka masih bisa mendaftar gratisan, walaupun dengan IP luar, poin ke satu ini tidak akan mereka pakai.

2. User enggan aktif merasa sulit menaikkan level
Yang ini kebanyakan terjadi di tahun 2018. Rata-rata banyak yang complain dengan aturan merit, sebagian merasa tidak fair karena terlalu jauh tingkat kesulitan rank up nya dibanding tahun-tahun sebelumnya. Akhirnya sepertinya memang banyak yang keluar dari forum karena merasa tidak akan mampu rank up. Tapi yang keluar atau menjadi non-active saya yakin shit poster, bukan good poster. Yang good poster/ good contributor akan tetap aktif di forum karena mereka tidak ada masalah dengan aturan merit.

3. User putus asa dengan hasil kampanye
Kalau tentang yang ini, masalah klasik yang terjadi sudah bertahun-tahun. Semenjak tahun 2018, campaign sudah tidak menghasilkan jumlah uang yang signifikan. Jadi sudah dari awal tahun 2018 hal ini terjadi, tapi jelas forum tidak terpengaruh dan tetap eksis dengan baik. Malah setelah banyak yang biasanya join campaign altcoins keluar, forum menjadi lebih bagus perkembangan kualitas post nya.

-snip- 3 faktor yang disebutkan di atas tidak akan memberikan pengaruh terhadap kelangsungan forum.
Saya rasa tetap ada pengaruhnya, contohnya forum lokal menjadi sepi. Tapi digaris bawahi bahwa pengaruhnya tidak terlalu signifikan. Karena forum tetap akan terus eksis dengan jumlah member yang sedikit ataupun banyak.
5335  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [TUTORIAL] Cara untuk membuang Malware Clipboard on: February 08, 2020, 09:28:16 PM
-snip- Cara virus ini bekerja jika agan mengcopy wallet Ethereum atau Bitcoin agan yang ada di Wallet Pribadi untuk tujuan withdraws dari exchange eh pas di paste di kolom address withdrawls atau paste dimana" agan mau malah muncul address orang lain dan bukan address agan -snip-
Saya pribadi belum pernah terkena kasus seperti ini. Namun jika cara kerjanya seperti itu, berrati ada kemungkinan bagi yang tidak hati-hati atau tidak hafal address nya, bisa saja salah mengirim koin ke address tersebut. Btw address orang lain yang muncul tersebut berrati address hacker ya? Itu berrati address tersebut bisa diakses seseorang? Nah kalo benar demikian, ini bisa dikatakan ngehack dengan menggunakan malware.

*Sedikit request, ada baiknya coba agan screenshoot kasus yang pernah terjadi, berkaitan dengan Malware Clipboard ini. Jadi pembaca yang belum tau kasus ini, punya gambaran tentang cara kerja malware ini.  Smiley
5336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would make you stop gambling? on: February 08, 2020, 09:15:28 PM
- making enough or a lot of money.
I doubt if this can make someone stop gambling. You know people always greedy, it is the fact, so don't deny it. When they can gain money from gambling, they will focus on it as it is worth to do. Moreover, if they can gain big money, I am pretty sure that they will gamble more often.

In my opinion, someone can stop gambling when they are aware that it is not all things to do in their life. They have another thing to do as a priority. For example:
- Someone prefers to focus on their career in real life.
- Someone needs more time to socialize and gather with family.
- Someone feels that he is going to be addicted more if he doesn't stop it.   
5337  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can more ATM's increase adoption for Bitcoin? on: February 08, 2020, 09:04:59 PM
1. Bitcoin ATM's usually charge much higher fees than exchanges, so they're not the best for customers. -snip-
Yes. This fact makes less interest in using Bitcoin ATMs. Then, of course, it doesn't help for better adoption. Unless if Bitcoin ATMs charge lower fees, so it can help for the adoption of Bitcoin, although it is not so significant.

2. Bitcoin exists on the Internet, so it's actually not that important for people to buy it via an ATM -snip-
However, if Bitcoin ATMs charger lower fees, it can be another option for people to buy. But yes, it may decrease the anonymity of someone. Well, as another option, it is not too bad as long as not charge high fees.
5338  Economy / Services / Re: EuroGamblers Signature Campaign (Hero and Legendary only- 0.025 BTC per week) on: February 08, 2020, 09:57:50 AM
20 posts are mandatory in gambling for each 25 minimum posts each week are too much, IMO. It might potentially create complaints in Gambling boards when accepted participants try to make more posts (than they usually do) in Gambling board.
I agree with you. 20 posts on the gambling board is absolutely too much. I never saw a bounty manager forced 20 posts on a certain board before. It potentially raises spams or low-quality posts. This rule must be reconsidered or revise in order to prevent bad impacts on the forum.


Normally, a bounty manager just requires about 5-7 posts on the gambling board weekly.
5339  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Real reasons to Why do you gamble? on: February 08, 2020, 09:46:06 AM
Maybe it's asked before, -snip-
Yes, this is a repeated question and has been answered many times. If you already know about it why you ask again this question? You can get the answer by using the "search feature" or take a look at some threads.

Why do you gamble?
The answer must be varied since it depends on the personal purpose. However, the main purpose must be for money although some gamblers deny it by saying "for fun".  Cheesy

Because you are bored?
If you are bored, you must do these :
- Take a vacation
- Go outside with your friends
- Play games   

Because you are going after the big score?
What for? A professional gambler mustn't do this.  Roll Eyes
5340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: February 08, 2020, 08:53:34 AM
A strong team doesn't mean they'll win. The team that win is stronger. At least that's what Tsubasa told me.
I can agree a bit with Tsubasa. As far as I know, the team that is serious and has better strategy + spirit in a match, will probably win the match. So, even if Barca/Madrid are big teams, they can be defeated if they are not really serious and have a low spirit in a match. Moreover, if the coach applies the wrong/bad strategy.   

You must be joking if they don't want to win the matches.
I don't make a joke. It was in my opinion since they didn't set all the best players in the match. This can be the big factor to lose when they underestimate the opponent.
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