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5361  Economy / Economics / Re: My economy Predicrions are true!! Gold is trash on: February 29, 2020, 01:52:37 PM




Pictures sources: https://www.gold.co.uk/gold-price/

It is true that the Gold price is decreasing but I assume it will rise up again in the near future. It is not the first time that the Gold declined in price, and it didn't happen in the Gold only. Look at the decline in crypto coins and others, they also experienced it. So, it doesn't make sense if you call it "trash". It has value even if it is decreasing much. And it is also a proven asset for years. Because of this fact, I feel a bit strange to see you judging it as "trash".
5362  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Any idea/demand/inspiration for tool/service around bitcoin ? on: February 29, 2020, 01:03:20 PM
I plan to develop something and elaborate it in future.
What do you already have to develop it? If you want to develop something serious, you need professional supports. You can't develop it in a careless way that possibly turns it to another failed project. We have already had thousands of failed projects, from various kinds of fundraisings (ICO/STO/IEO). You must take serious attention to these cases.

what kind of tooll/service you are interested in around bitcoin.
- An application that helps crypto users to convert Bitcoins to Fiats automatically. But it must be trustable, secure, and user-friendly.
- A platform that can guarantee the security of Bitcoin trader identities on exchanges. (Just imagine, don't know if it is possible to do or not).
- A special gadget for Bitcoin/Altcoins traders. (With cheap price and good performance)       
5363  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ways in which you can promote bitcoin. on: February 29, 2020, 12:00:59 PM
Even, we can promote Bitcoin in the smallest or very simple things such as put a picture or text of Bitcoin on our social media account profiles. Don't worry, it is also possible to attract people to know about Bitcoin. So, no reasons that someone cannot participate in promoting Bitcoin. All people can contribute as long they have the intention to support Bitcoin's existence.

Other simple ways to do:
- Put a picture or text of Bitcoin on our social media account profiles.
- Make clothes with a picture or text about Bitcoin. Commonly, it is applied to t-shirts or jackets.
- Create trinkets themed Bitcoin.        
5364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Coronavirus ain't helping on: February 29, 2020, 11:25:32 AM
Sometimes I think that Coronavirus is nothing to do with crypto prices. But on the other hand, I know that Corona killed many people around the world and caused chaos + fear. It threatens crypto users, they may be killed by this virus or have difficulties to access the internet by the current condition. I imagine that people are stuck at home and scare to go out. Or they must evacuate to other areas. In this situation, people prefer to think about how to save their life than do activities in crypto trading/investment. If crypto users are included, this potentially influences the crypto prices on the market.    
5365  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin: Fenomena sosial on: February 29, 2020, 10:21:19 AM
Bitcoin lebih dari sekedar Teknologi: Bitcoin adalah fenomena sosial. Dan ini merupakan gerakan sosial massal pertama dalam sejarah yang tidak menjanjikan apapun selain dari nilainya sendiri.
Iya, kata fenomenal itu sendiri diartikan luar biasa, yang secara nyata dapat dirasakan oleh semua orang. Dalam hal ini berarti gerakan luar biasa (massal) yang dilakukan oleh sekelompok/banyak orang untuk mencari solusi atas permasalahan keuangan pada bank konvensional. Orang-orang butuh sebuah terobosan atas tindakan yang tidak transparan pada bank, biaya yang tinggi, dan tindakan otoriter pada kasus penutupan rekening (tanpa peluang banding). Dan Bitcoin menghadirkan harapan untuk solusi permasalahan tersebut dengan desentralisasi, tranparansi, dan lower fee untuk setiap transaksi.

Orang-orang yang mungkin tidak sepakat satu sama lain dalam suatu hal, dapat mencapai kesepakatan dalam hal bitcoin. Itulah mengapa Bitcoin memiliki nilai
Ini dapat disimpulkan bahwa nilai Bitcoin itu sendiri sebenarnya tidak ada ukurannya, hanya berdasarkan kesepakatan dari orang-orang. Namun demikian, bukan berarti Bitcoin itu punya nilai yang lemah. Selama komunitas (orang-orang) mendukung Bitcoin dan terus memperdagangkannya, maka nilai Bitcoin akan terus terjaga, bahkan mampu terus merangkak naik.

Secara nature nya, tidak ada batasan seberapa besar nilai Bitcoin, tidak ada juga batasan nilai terendahnya, bahkan tidak ada pula nilai standar yang harusnya dimiliki Bitcoin. Selain itu tidak ada pula seseorang atau instansi atau lembaga yang menentukan nilainya. Ini semua bergantung kepada kesepakatan bersama dan setiap orang berkontribusi dalam hal ini. Maka menurut saya, inilah yang diyakini oleh semua orang bahwa nilai Bitcoin itu fair. Tidak ada yang menentukan ataupun otoriter terhadap kebijakan nilainya.

Bitcoin dan nilainya didukung oleh banyak orang, kaya dan miskin.
Ini merupakan salah satu kelebihan dari Bitcoin. Tidak hanya golongan tertentu yang ikut serta mendukung eksistensi Bitcoin ini. Semua golongan ikut andil: entah dari golongan atas, menegah, maupun bawah ada pada komunitas Bitcoin ini. Itulah sebabnya Bitcoin mampu terus bertahan, karena semua strata/golongan turut mendukung keberadaannya.

Meskipun ada yang berusaha mengambil keuntungan dengan kekayaan atau uang dengan jumlah besar yang dimiliki. Tapi itu memang tidak mempengaruhi eksistensi Bitcoin untuk jangka panjang. Pump-dump di market hanya berpengaruh pada harga sementara, namun adopsi Bitcoin terus meningkat hari demi harinya. Secara pribadi, saya berasumsi bahwa untuk tujuan jangka panjang, Bitcoin lebih dipengaruhi oleh adopsinya daripada nilainya di market.


Sumber:
- https://kbbi.web.id/fenomena
- https://bitcoin.org/en/faq#general
  
5366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I am fed up with scammers and newbies. on: February 29, 2020, 09:56:50 AM
Last week, I found an airdrop project in Telegram called Macro Protocol......................
I just checked on the telegram and browsed about Macro Protocol, but couldn't find the information. Am I missing something? The channel or website? If there is clear information, maybe we can analyze the project first before deciding that it is a scam or not. But, if there is a very lack of information, it seems strange and probably belongs to "scam".

Their airdrop tweet got 8K retweet and 9K likes, so, you can understand how hype it had!
It still proves that there are so many people that are still interested in the airdrop. Well, it is so hyped and this what should make us more careful when participating in the airdrop. I'm curious about what kind of project it is (was).

they announced they are going to sell Bitcoin at a 50% discount to celebrate the halving.
No comment about this, just want to laugh  Grin
It seems very suspicious and strange offering a super duper teasing and tantalizing program. Of course, their target is "newbies" and greedy people who want to get the maximum profit with the smallest capital.

Be careful of any kind of scams. Now, many scammers use new methods to deceive the victims to be. It is important not to believe easily in that kind of program. Doing more research and gaining more information is very important to avoid the scam.
5367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New Bitcoin ATM map on: February 29, 2020, 07:00:16 AM
I like the idea that you plan to have a trusted Bitcoin ATM map. Is it an application or to access it just visit this link: https://www.bitrawr.com/bitcoin-atms?
Anyway, besides guiding to the Bitcoin ATM, I see that Bitrawr also helps people to find out the best exchanges or trusted wallets. How you can do this? Do you have certain data related to current top exchanges or wallets? Is it accurate enough?
5368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Please help! Is this scam or not? on: February 28, 2020, 11:04:58 PM
But the condition to receive the token airdrop is have to transfer ETH
This is a technique commonly used by scammers. Never transfer anything when they ask your ETH or BTC to claim your rewards. Even if it is not a scam, I think it won't be worth because people usually get a small amount only from airdrop tasks. So, it doesn't make sense for you to transfer them your ETH. What for!!  Cheesy
5369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling affected your personal reputation? on: February 28, 2020, 10:44:27 PM
There are alot of reputable gamblers that people don't really know they gamble.
How do you know about this? Do you know them in real-life or just got the information from any sources? If you got the information from an article or a video, you are better to enclose it here. So, people can trust on what you state above!  Wink

it's all about making money now so you make it any way that is convenient for you as long as you don't Rob or steal it.
Indeed. Gamblers aren't thieves or robbers. Commonly, the gambler status isn't a bad thing that people must avoid. But the reputation can be worse if someone becomes an addicted gambler that harms everything to stay on it.
5370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Celebrities advertise scam ICO again on: February 28, 2020, 10:35:45 PM
-snip- do you think celebrities know that they advertise scam projects or they just don’t understand what they are doing?
This kind of question can't be answered by us! Those celebrities can answer it! If we can hear/see their statements related to this question, then the answer can be valid. However, we can speculate that celebrities don't understand enough about ICO, STO, IEO or the like. Even they don't know well about crypto or blockchain. So, in my opinion, they just don't understand enough what they're doing.
5371  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE] Kumpulan Gratisan, Giveaway, Kontes, Dan Sejenisnya on: February 28, 2020, 09:35:10 PM
kapan ada GA merit?? Grin
Bukannya GA merit ada terus gan. Agan tinggal list 10 post berkualitas agan di sini: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2840438.0.
Itu kan kalo dipikir-pikir mirip juga dengan GA. Tinggal buat post berkualitas dan list aja link nya di thread tersebut. Kalau post agan layak dapat merit, otomatis nanti ada yang ngasih merit di situ.

kalo agan punya  1500 merit terus GA 10 biji merit
Agan coba baca komen dari suhu joniboini di bawah ini. Dia menawarkan cukup banyak merit untuk yang mau. Tapi tentu sesuai dengan ketentuan ya.

Masih ada sekitar 30an smerit. Silakan mengajukan post lagi bagi yang punya post undermerited. Ingat, post agan ga perlu panjang lebar tapi isinya ga ada (apalagi dipanjang-panjangin). Walau cuma 1-2 kalimat kalau itu penting untuk topik yang dibahas bisa aja dapet merit juga.
 
5372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to get lucky ;) on: February 28, 2020, 09:26:15 PM
-snip-probably all game houses shutdowns due to bankrupt as they aren't making any profit to cover expenses since everyone is been lucky and wining games (their bets).-snip-
You are right. If everyone can be lucky all the time, those gambling sites will close due to run out of funds for paying all winners. However, in fact, it won't happen since the truth is rarely seen lucky people in gambling. Most gamblers tell their losses or unlucky attempts many times, it means the luck hard to find out. 
5373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Another STO failed! STO won't work anymore. on: February 28, 2020, 09:12:16 PM
Today I just noticed another good looking STO failed, -snip-
Why do you state this project is good looking? I don't see anything special from this project. It looks like the same as other new projects. On the contrary, on the bounty thread, the bounty manager didn't enclose the links of important sources of this project such as ANN thread and their social media. It is a bit strange for me!

-snip- I have never seen an STO that raised good money and doing good in the market! -snip-
Not only STO, but IEO and ICO also have the same problems. The lack of interest from investors makes the new projects often failed to get their target on fundraising. While, if they can list their tokens on exchanges, the tokens are only about pump-dump. It makes sense if investors aren't interested in new projects anymore.
5374  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Jr. Member s.d Hero)[UPDATE] on: February 28, 2020, 08:54:29 PM
-snip- kali ini saya hanya bisa membuat posting di dunia trading masak mau dipaksakan untuk ke dunia mining? sepertinya itu tidak mungkin dilakukan oleh saya karena dunia kita berbeda. -snip-
Mungkin maksudnya suhu adalah pertimbangkan bidang lain yang mungkin agan bisa kuasai. Kalau yang jelas sulit dikuasai, tentu tidak perlu dipaksakan. Contohnya mining, saya juga skip kalo tentang itu. Tapi kalo tentang trading, saya masih bisa pelajari. Contoh lain ketika saya buat postingan di board global, ada board tertentu yang saya sama sekali skip (tidak akan post di situ) karena memang saya belum mampu, yaitu board "Bitcoin Technical Support".  Tapi kalau post di board seperti "Project Development", saya masih bisa berusaha.

*Tetap semangat gan! Agan juga salah satu inspirasi saya buat rank up. Smiley
5375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Leave gambling, if it destroys you. on: February 27, 2020, 10:36:18 PM
Yes, you are right. I agree that we must use gambling as fun and entertainment, and don't rely on gambling to make money.
I agree that we don't rely on gambling to earn money but I disagree if it is a must to gamble in order to have fun and entertainment. Everyone has their own purposes to play gambling. If someone plays gambling to earn money, we cannot blame him. It is normal that people are interested in the big amount of prizes on gambling.   
5376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unfinished Projects on: February 27, 2020, 10:28:20 PM
Investors already experienced this many times, especially in 2018. And this makes investors aren't interested to join in ICO/IEO anymore. Most of the teams of new projects only focused on fundraising and don't really care about the quality of their projects. In the end, the projects failed to reach soft-cap or the teams disappeared because only want people's money.   
5377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to get lucky ;) on: February 27, 2020, 10:13:46 PM
For me, the best way to get lucky is by doing everything to the maximum. You can't get lucky if you just expect it without doing your best. It only comes after you do all the efforts optimally. However, I suggest to not expect too much on luck, you are better to trust in your own ability.
5378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: After losing did you feel you must return the soonest to win back your losses? on: February 26, 2020, 10:04:23 PM
When we have greediness, that will make us get more losses because greediness is a feeling that wants to get more, but we don't know how big our chance to get it.
Correct. Greediness will lead us to more losses because the chance to win is always small. That's why some people prefer to stop when they already won it. I think this is the right way as if you continue to play more, contrarily your chance to lose will be higher. No guarantee to win even if you make many attempts!
5379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: February 26, 2020, 09:44:41 PM
And Real Madrid scored, isco made it!
Now it is 1-2. Isco scored 1 goal, then Gabriel Jesus made 1 goal and De Bruyne 1 goal (P). I think it is not a good result for Real Madrid since City takes advantage of 2 goals away. It means Real Madrid must score at least 2 goals in the second leg on City's home. I don't know what's wrong with Real Madrid, their total attempts are much lower than City has.  


Ramos got another red card in his career. How bad!!
Lose 1 vital defender in the next leg. Cry
5380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Good or bad plan? on: February 26, 2020, 05:54:04 PM
Not really sure that we are at the bottom price or not. All coins are decreasing much today and it still continues. Bitcoin price seems to go down around $8k, while ETH price is almost about $200. In my opinion, you are better to wait for a moment and see the progress of the decline. Only decide to buy when there is a strong signal that the crypto prices are at the bottom already. And then set the target rationally along with the possible future trend.
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