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5361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2015, 01:40:26 AM
I wonder if the posters who keep nonchalantly referring to child pornography would kindly stop. Thanks.
Nobody is saying that you (or bitcoiners in general) are pedophiles, I'm just saying that the thing is out there.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-09/bitcoin-payments-by-pedophiles-frustrate-child-porn-fight

quite funny when 99% of all crimes in the younger history was funded with fiat Smiley

Question would be, which of the two is easier and more convenient to use for child pornographers?

exactly, you nailed the point. did you find the answer?
5362  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2015, 01:27:44 AM
I wonder if the posters who keep nonchalantly referring to child pornography would kindly stop. Thanks.
Nobody is saying that you (or bitcoiners in general) are pedophiles, I'm just saying that the thing is out there.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-09/bitcoin-payments-by-pedophiles-frustrate-child-porn-fight

quite funny when 99% of all crimes in the younger history was funded with fiat Smiley
5363  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2015, 01:21:42 AM
so everyone accepting paypal is actually not accepting $, € or any other fiat currency?

Of course.  The currency that they accept is one thing, the means through which they receive the currency is another thing.  Last time I checked, Dell USA accepted only dollars, but you could send the dollars in one of several ways: PayPal, credit card, bank wire, old-fashioned checks, -- or BitPay.  Likewise, Dell would pay refunds only in dollars, even if you paid with BitPay.

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what happens when paypal will integrate btc this year? still nobody accepting bitcoin?
they do accept bitcoin as payment, the just dont hold it.

Either PayPal will do the conversion to dollars and send dollars to the merchant, like BitPay does; or most merchants that accept payment via BitPay will not accept bitcoins through Paypal.



exactly.

for example i want to buy something outside my country:

1. i load up paypal with local currency
2. buy something online in a different currency
3. paypal processes the payment

there is actually no difference at all between what paypal does and bitpay does.

what follows is that merchants are accepting bitcoin and not only $ Smiley

the thing is, most people get their salary paid in fiat. the time this changes will be the turning point
5364  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2015, 12:32:00 AM
-The fact that nobody is really interested in buying bitcoin to mainly use it as a currency aside from illicit goods, but more as a wild musical chairs speculation instrument.

-the fact that merchants "accepting bitcoin" just create more selling pressure. Spending bitcoin = dumping bitcoin.
Your first argument is a feeble attempt to push fallacy as fact.
Bitpay one of a few service providers says otherwise.

http://blog.bitpay.com/2015/02/04/bitcoin-and-bitpay-in-2014.html

That infographic is a masterpiece of misinformation.  Casual readers will think that the "23 billion USD (57% increase)" is usage for e-payments, but it is either the blockchain traffic or the trading volume at the exchanges.  BitPay has not released any meaningful numbers about the usage for e-payments through them.  Analysis of what seems to be their incoming wallet shows about 1000-2000 BTC per day, constant since mid 2013 at least, which may be miners paying their bills.  Excluding that component, BitPay's traffic seems to be a few hundred BTC per day, which would be perhaps 50 million (not billion) USD in 2014.  So, their unwillingness to post actual numbers is not surprising.

Also, needless to say, all of the companies that they list as "accepting bitcoin" infact do not accept bitcoins, only dollars.



so everyone accepting paypal is actually not accepting $, € or any other fiat currency?
what happens when paypal will integrate btc this year? still nobody accepting bitcoin?

they do accept bitcoin as payment, the just dont hold it.

5365  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SEGVEC CONNED ME OUT OF 14.09 BTC on: February 07, 2015, 07:17:39 PM
Everyone who was scammed by HBO - please list your scammed amounts in the higher of USD or BTC worth at the time of trade.

@Stanz / segvec, don't pay HBO the full amount once rec'd, hes a scammer and won't pay back anyone. If you really want to look good - pay the people he owes first the higher of the amount BTC or USD worth at the time of their scams and pay HBO the rest.
That is really not the appropriate thing to do. When people start playing robin hood then you open up the possibility that people will pretend they get scammed with the hopes they they can later "recover" their "losses" when the person they claim to have been scammed by is owed money.

@HBOGo - it is not appropriate to steal from others in order to pay your bills. Your sob stories make me very suspicious about you and you are not helping your case.
Like igaf about your opinion anyways. Can provide proof if need be about fam struggling but like anyone is going to care either way. No one was sympathetic when I first lost my funds, and no one is going to be even if I provide proof. They just comment here for the shits and giggles.

No that is not true. There were more then several cunstructive and helpful post... but nobody has the magical power to give you back the stolen coins except the one who scammed you.
5366  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SEGVEC CONNED ME OUT OF 14.09 BTC on: February 07, 2015, 07:11:21 PM
Congrats hbo. You moved from being dumb to full retard.
Instead of taking legal action against segvec you are scamming other people to lessen your loss.

because you are young i hope you will understand that your behavior is on par or worst then segvec's
What legal action? I don't even know who the fuck he is? There are scammers in this community whose identity is known publicly, but absolutely nothing has happened to them. They're still alive and well and living their daily lives as if nothing has happened whatsoever. You expect me to take legal action against a fucking ghost? Get real.


why would it be the same case for you?
btc is property in the US. You can always seek legal help because cybercrime is nothing new and will get prosecuted.
you worked with him via bank transfer there are the first steps to his identity. But that is the job of the cops.
i just dont get why you dont even try it
5367  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SEGVEC CONNED ME OUT OF 14.09 BTC on: February 07, 2015, 06:55:13 PM
Congrats hbo. You moved from being dumb to full retard.
Instead of taking legal action against segvec you are scamming other people to lessen your loss.

because you are young i hope you will understand that your behavior is on par or worst then segvec's


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What about the people you scammed? Do you think they are all millionairs or have too much money?
5368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2015, 06:45:54 PM
I call reverse dump sunday - mark my words
5369  Economy / Economics / Re: The fatal flaw of Real Bills Doctrine on: February 06, 2015, 09:53:53 PM
http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~JStroebe/research/pdf/EstimatedImpactFederalReservesMortgage-BackedSecuritiesPurchaseProgram.pdf

5370  Economy / Economics / Re: No worries.. US debt per person only trippled from 2004-2015 on: February 01, 2015, 05:12:29 AM
It is strange that that map says the US debt is $14 trillion. It is over $18 trillion by now.

I checked the map. It is saying that all the countries have some debt, even the green ones. I wonder, then who is lending ? I mean, is there any country without a debt ?

p.s. Sorry, I'm not good in economics.
[...]
All loans could in theory be paid back, extinguishing all debt. If the loaners are not able or willing to pay back, the loans could be written off as a loss, same result in the aggregate.
[...]

could you explain how this can work in a system operated under fractional reserve? (except for mass defaulting of the loans)
5371  Economy / Services / Re: Ship glitter to your enemies! - Glitter Bomb service! on: January 31, 2015, 12:09:19 AM
is this for real? anybody tried out yet?

im kinda interested LOL  Grin
5372  Other / Off-topic / Re: Alpha Centauri: 80 Years in the Making on: January 30, 2015, 11:59:08 PM
is this a new movie or something?   Roll Eyes Cheesy
5373  Economy / Digital goods / Re: [S]STEAM & ORIGIN GAMES(GTA V 36$)- DOTA2 Items FOR BTC/WMZ/skrill on: January 30, 2015, 11:19:25 PM
hi interested in gta 5 preorder with escrow Smiley

steam and europe(germany) please 
5374  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SEGVEC CONNED ME OUT OF 14.09 BTC on: January 30, 2015, 11:07:35 PM
why dont you just go to the cops while waiting for the money?

it doesn't cost anything and in the worst case the cops will tell you that you are a idiot.

it just makes you look like an even greater idiot how you beg him to pay you 10 $ a week, although he scammed you out of 5000$
5375  Other / Off-topic / Re: GTA V on PC on: January 28, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
you guys remember when the best games were released for like 20-30$?

 Sad Shocked  Cheesy

but yeah, i will buy it i guess -_-"
5376  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Get Ready for US Troops on the Ground in Syria and Iraq on: January 28, 2015, 04:09:10 PM
i doubt there will be arming of the peshmerga with modern weapons.
turkey would go crazy apeshit when this happens - which was also the reason why even providing defense material to them from the eu was such a muppet show and took forever to happen.

but damn it, this time the US has to correct the shit with ground troops. i dont really see how isis will just say: ok we stop.


isis has money, isis has the troops, isis has the weapons.
it is not just a terrorist organisation anymore, if nothing happens we gonna see a second north korea in the middle east
5377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
inb4 1000000$/btc  Cheesy
5378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 26, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
2min 30sec get ready gentleman Smiley

/edit

they just added the music right? lol
5379  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinbase announcement on Monday on: January 26, 2015, 10:54:38 AM
Well, Coinbase announced their API. It's straightforward REST/JSON. There's a discussion on Hacker News. They're running on Amazon AWS, in the US East zone. They recommend that trading 'bots also run on AWS in that zone for reduced latency. Initially, there will be no fees, but later, fees will be imposed for transactions which "reduce liquidity" (i.e. are executed immediately). Putting up walls is free.

It looks like they're setting themselves up for high frequency trading. They may have huge volume, but it will be the same money going round and round.  

They claim to be "licensed" in at least New York and California, but they're not on the money transmitter lists for either state.

Any opinion on this?

https://docs.exchange.coinbase.com/#currencies

Will they add alts?

yup most likely, would also align with the leaked pics of doge and ltc on coinbase
5380  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Hilfe zu TP und SL bei Bitfinex erbeten on: January 26, 2015, 10:21:38 AM
Stop-loss ist das werkzeug um nicht alles zu  verlieren sollte der kurs in die falsche richtung laufen.
wenn du short gehst werden btc nachgekauft, beim long entsprechend verkauft.

Limit-order ist die art wie du kaufst/verkaufst.
in diesem falle wurdest du max 200 $ pro btc ausgeben, im short fall wurdest du für mindestens 200 verkaufen.

ich denke du solltest dir in diesem Zusammenhang auch die option des trailingstop/order angucken.

oco = one cancles the other
hier hast du zwei trades offen und wenn trade a ausgelöst wird löscht das system automatisch trade b
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