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5381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 21, 2023, 08:22:23 PM
The first half was horrible for Liverpool. I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea got ahead. Chelsea were able to find dangerous goal chances by set pieces and Liverpool were very desperate to defend them. van Dijk's absence is a factor in this as well of course. The second half was more balanced and Liverpool found many more chances as well. But there was still no goal in the match at the end. This is of course an acceptable result for Chelsea side. They managed to keep their unbeaten streak in Anfield by this result.

Liverpool are still unable to fix their issues and they lost points once again. As long as the injured players don't return we wouldn't see much thing changing.

In my opinion, this is an unacceptable result for both clubs. By and large, there is no difference what place to take at the end of the championship - 5th or 10th. If you don't get into the top 4 and the Champions League, then this is a mega failure that throws you far back - the club loses income plus the opportunity to sign ambitious players. In fact, today both clubs are even further away from the top 4. In my opinion, their chances are already frivolous.
5382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Champions League Pool ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: January 21, 2023, 08:09:28 PM
^^^Thank icopress and Betnomi, I'm just helping along Wink

Honestly, at this low point in Liverpool's season, I'm really looking forward to UCL. We get to meet Real, hopefully who maintain their freakish form, and we reset the season from there. We're over 10 points behind UCL spots, I'm sure we'll still get 4th, we know how, but it would be amazing to just win this trophy to make up for this deep disappointment.

Slightly out of topic but did anyone notice Betnomi has 2026 World Cup outright odds out? First thing that greets me on their Sports page haha.

Yes, I noticed this option. I haven't checked the odds but they should be super generous for a bettor to place such a bet in advance. In the end, the annual inflation is 5% per year, and even if the bookmaker sets the odds without its own margin, it will receive 20% of the profit in the end.

At the expense of which club do you see Liverpool getting a place in the top 4? United, City and Newcastle look very solid.
5383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 20, 2023, 11:09:15 PM
Regardless of anything, Ronaldo's presence there has had an extraordinary effect, coupled with the arrival of PSG there with a full team and clearly playing this will make them even more elevated. The closeness of the Arab club owners to several big clubs could have brought more things there and it is not impossible that there are other clubs owned by other Middle Eastern Sheikhs such as Manchester City or Newcastle will follow in this footsteps because apart from anything other than promoting their own club as well to raise the league in his country.
PSG could be the first but on the other hand there will be a few more to follow and I'm pretty sure about that.

I think that the presence of Ronaldo was the only factor that attracted attention to this game. Otherwise, who would even care about a PSG friendly against an unknown (in Europe) club? It can be said that Ronaldo successfully worked out a significant part of his huge salary by playing in this game  Grin
5384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: January 20, 2023, 11:01:54 PM
I almost almost made money from my first 4-3-free win and still nothing to celebrate 2023 yet. Inspired by so many big bets from people I decided to go for higher odds than usual. Why did I think Tottenham could win??

The worst is I got frustrated and ended up losing even more in casino Blackjack lol

Try again Sad



After the first half, you could hedge this bet (if it was the last outcome that determined its success). The bookies quoted City's odds of winning over 7, and apparently these were profitable odds. Conencho, I did not place a bet because I hoped that Tottenham would hold out and City would lose points, but in the end I was also very disappointed.
5385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 20, 2023, 10:53:09 PM
This was a heavy blow for Inter because if we remember earlier PSG had made talks and said they would take Milan Skriniar at 60 million in previous transfers but Inter refused that and now he is leaving on a free transfer. On the other hand, this is also quite reasonable because PSG promises a salary that is 2 times bigger than what he is currently getting at Inter, so this is indeed a real failure for Inter Milan at this time.
Yes they refused 60milions in the summer and it was a dumb move for them.

PSG already said in the summer, to give it to us for 60 or we will take him for free next year...

Maybe Inter thought it was worth 60 million for him to play the rest of the year? After all, if you buy a new player, then you have to pay an amount that will obviously not be less, plus offer a new player a salary higher than he received at Inter. And in general, when PSG makes an offer, few clubs can compete with this offer on price, the financial fair play does not work.
5386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: January 20, 2023, 10:44:14 PM
The prestige of the two coaches will be at stake in this match, Ten Hag and Xavi have both succeeded in making their teams better by achieving positive results in their respective leagues.
Xavi can not compare to Ten Hag who has a longer career than Xavi. Ten Hag not only has a longer career but also more successful one. He succeeded in Netherlands with Ajax Amstersdam in Eredivisie league and in Champions League with a generation of De Ligt, De Jong, Ziyech. Xavi only has one title with Barcelona recent days in Spanish Super Cub. He failed with Barcelona in Champions League this season and comparing their records, Xavi has a less impressive record than Ten Hag.

Agree. Xavi is a rookie manager who has taken charge of a major club for the first time. The first season he completely failed, the second season also began with a failure (relegation from the Champions League) which, against the backdrop of Barcelona's huge acquisitions, looks like a real failure. Ten Hag is already an experienced coach with successful cases and at the moment he is also successful at United. In fact, we cannot compare these two coaches at all, as they are completely different cases.
5387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 on: January 20, 2023, 09:04:49 PM
Considering that only two chess players currently have ratings above 2800 (one of which is Carlsen himself), the task of scoring 2900 looks unrealistic. Even when he announced this goal of his, some grandmasters said that it was impossible. Since then, it seems that Carlsen did not play better, but vice versa. I think that this task will be submitted to the next generation of players, including Firuja, Gukesh, Eregaysi, etc. simply due to inflation (albeit slow) rating.

2900 may be a rating that man will never reach. If he plays a bad tournament, he has to win 2 tournaments somewhere to compensate for the lost points. I think Kasparov had a rating of 2854 at his best ever. Carlsen once hit 2900. Maybe this whole Niemann thing has started to piss him off after all. That is something that is in the back of your mind and people everywhere naturally want to ask questions about it. It makes a difference that Niemann was not invited. Ding Liren is also a player above the 2800 rating, but at the moment he has not been able to show anything spectacular. Carlsen will have to show why he is the world champion and will have to win a few games in a row. However, this tournament is heavily occupied, so there are no easy victories here.

It doesn't work that way. The FIDE rating is based on the ELO principle and there you have to not just win tournaments, but gain a certain percentage of points. That is (purely conditional percentages, I don't remember the exact numbers) player 2800 should win 70% of games against player 2600 and against player 2500 he should win 80% of games. So if he wants to climb 2900, Carlsen has to show a crazy win percentage against the rest of the tops.

can you talk a bit more about inflation rating? first time I hear about it
I didn't know the top rating would simply go up over time and doesn't make a lot of sense for me to think it's due to people artificially raising it, but due to GMs getting better and better over time, maybe?

Yes, on the one hand, you are right that the players are getting better and thus both the average rating and the top rating are growing. I won't be able to tell you much about inflation as it's a complicated issue (and many people even think it's the other way around in chess - rating deflation) - you can see the main points here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system#Ratings_inflation_and_deflation
But it's clear to me that new players who enter the system bring more points into the system than retired players take away, so the total (and average) number of points becomes more = inflation.
5388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's a good idea to just register on casino on: January 20, 2023, 08:48:08 PM
There is this thing about shopping and airlines that when you check and forget, they send you bonus or discount for your possible shopping/trip. Same holds true for casinos, if you just register and leave they will send you some bonus to get you started playing.

In general, this is a working idea, but how much do you plan to earn from it? 10-20-100 dollars? And this is in a good case if you can fulfill the conditions for receiving the bonus without losing your original money. Is it worth the risk of such a profit if you initially do not plan to play for fun, but want to make a profit?
5389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: January 20, 2023, 08:45:12 PM
There is an interesting situation like this:

- Dortmund are favoured by bookmakers for the first leg - 2.52 against 2.64. It is a small gap but still.  Smiley
- Meanwhile Chelsea are favoured by them again for reaching the next stage - 1.57 against 2.25.

This is pushing me to think like Dortmund will resist in the first leg but we might be likely to see a draw and see both teams scoring. But in Stamford Bridge Chelsea can finish the deal by a decent win. I still don't expect a big score gap there also considering Chelsea's current condition. I just expect them to eliminate Dortmund anyway especially when we think of what they did to Milan in the group stage. I see Dortmund and Milan being at similar levels in the Champions League recently.

It is difficult to assess the state of Dortmund, but Chelsea look very weak and in my opinion they are overrated. Tomorrow they play Liverpool and I doubt that we will see a competitive match even though Liverpool itself is weak and unstable. By the way, it's funny that in a pair of Real Madrid - Liverpool, the favorite to reach the next round is Liverpool. I don’t know what is the reason for such a large number of dubious quotes, maybe tomorrow Liverpool will show something special? We will see.
5390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: January 20, 2023, 08:40:17 PM
Once again, an epic comeback for Real Madrid. After falling 2-0 behind Villarreal in the first half, they were finally able to pull off an epic comeback in the second half. Initially, there were doubts because Villareal's play was so good and tense. They were quite strong on all fronts and overwhelmed Real Madrid players until they took the lead. but unfortunately, they were unable to hold the position and just the opposite, losing in the end. Congratulations to Real Madrid has won the match against Villarreal 2-3.

A magnificent victory that will give Real strength and self-confidence. A second loss in a row and elimination from the tournament would have been a big blow, but once again an epic comeback and Real Madrid avoided such a deep failure in such a short period of time. I'm very happy for Vinicius - he scored the most important goal that was the start of this comeback and it was a good response to the criticism that has been heard towards him lately.
5391  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 20, 2023, 08:34:47 PM
In many previous seasons, Napoli has always had problems maintaining the consistency of its wins and maintaining its chances of remaining leading the standings. Even if at the moment Napoli doesn't have much of a challenge in first place, people will still doubt them in the end. The season is still a long way off, another 18 matches between each team and that is still a lot. Napoli's first half of the season was good, but it's not certain that they can be this good in the second half of the season.

18 games seems like a long distance, but in fact, given Napoli's lead, it's not. You just need to understand that if even now all competitors start playing with the same strength as Napoli and go at the same pace, then Napoli will become champions 3 rounds before the finish line. That is, we can say that there are 15 games left for Napoli, during which they must play at least as good as their pursuers. Now suppose that one of the pursuers suddenly manages to play much stronger than Napoli (there are no prerequisites for this) - this will still not give good chances for the championship, since there is only one personal meeting, and the advantage of Napoli is 9-10 points.
5392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 20, 2023, 08:28:51 PM
Unbelievable come back from Manchester City last night as they went down 2 goals to nil in the first half against Tottenham hotspurs but they still had the courage to rise up in the second half to defeat Tottenham 4-2 full time.

If the win their next game that would mean Arsenal just has  2 point advantage over them and the champions of the English Premier League door is swung open again.

According to the bookmakers, City's odds of winning after the first half were 7++. I was afraid that a comeback was possible, so I consoled myself with this - bookmakers should not be mistaken, but what happened happened.
Completely disappointed with Conte and Tottenham, I understand that the opponent was City but with a two goal lead to lose everything in one half... This team is not worthy of the top 4  Angry
5393  Local / Разное / Re: Майнинг 2023 жив! (не крипта) on: January 20, 2023, 07:49:57 PM
Тут немного другая механика, да и акк очень быстро прокачивается когда фармит круглосуточно. Но я продаю не акки, а прокачанный стаф (продажа акков это отдельная тема и она всегда чрезмерно мутная). В общем я хорошо разбираюсь в том чем занимаюсь  Wink
По поводу напраправлений да, иногда выгодно дешевку прокачать, иногда дорогие вещи, тут тоже руку на пульсе держать надо ради максимизации прибыли.

По поводу объема рынка вот тут пишут что россияне в 2019 потратили на донаты стримерам 21,6 миллиарда рублей. Если они на стримеров столько тратят, то очевидно что на себя больше. А раз уж мы говорим о глобальном рынке, то там миллиарды в гораздо большем количестве вертятся и далеко не рублей  Cheesy



Сегодня месяц как начал эксперимент. Вывел еще 10-ку, в обороте примерно 8к. В целом доволен.
Только замечу, что это не халява, которую я нашел и дою, а вполне себе труд где надо напрягаться. Плюс в этой теме я уже давно поэтому во-первых знаю как надо, во-вторых у меня есть идеи куда двигаться дальше т.е. я вижу не только Х денег которые можно срубить сейчас, но и перспективы ( Х3 денег Grin ).
Есть знакомые которые сбежали от рфии за рубеж, мотивирую их заиметь себе правильный аккаунт на ебэй  Roll Eyes пока подвижек в этом направлении нет, но как говорится "будем искать".
5394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Champions League Pool ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: January 20, 2023, 05:05:17 PM
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Another thing, everyone should PM me with their Betnomi usernames too for future reference. I know at least 2 of those names are even inactive on forum so we'll just have to keep note.

Thank you for reminding! I already answered you in the PM, at the same time I want to ask: does Betnomi take into account capital letters when registering on the site? I remember for sure that I registered as a KTChampions, but in my settings such a nickname is displayed: ktchampions.
I paid attention to this when registering, does anyone have a similar problem?
5395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 on: January 19, 2023, 08:49:56 PM
Ding Liren's defeat is probably even more surprising than Carlsen's defeat - after all, Carlsen gave up the chess crown, and Ding Liren will take part in the match for it. I think no matter how much Carlsen deceives himself that by giving up the crown he will be able to continue to dominate as he used to in regular tournaments, this is not true. When an athlete loses motivation, it affects the results in all tournaments. Perhaps Carlsen is already on his way out of the top 1.

And what a way to end it, if ever. It would be best if he gets that 2900 rating first before he calls it quits. He's still got a lot of time ahead of him, and he's obviously getting even better as time passes. Sadly, if you stay too long at the top and can't meet someone who's worthy of being serious, you'll eventually lose the drive to continue doing what you do best and I guess that's what's happening with Magnus now. But yeah, I'm still hoping that he reaches the elusive 2900 before he quits chess for good, otherwise it will be a long climb for Ding Liren before he gets that rating.

Considering that only two chess players currently have ratings above 2800 (one of which is Carlsen himself), the task of scoring 2900 looks unrealistic. Even when he announced this goal of his, some grandmasters said that it was impossible. Since then, it seems that Carlsen did not play better, but vice versa. I think that this task will be submitted to the next generation of players, including Firuja, Gukesh, Eregaysi, etc. simply due to inflation (albeit slow) rating.
5396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 19, 2023, 06:21:03 PM
Basically, PSG has good players in every line, from the goalkeeper to the attackers. PSG has players whose quality is certainly not in doubt. So with them having great players from every line, even though Christophe Galtier implements any strategy I think PSG players should be able to adjust to it.

Because it's useless if PSG players with a lot of experience at the highest level still can't play well, if only because their coach implemented the wrong strategy and put the players in the wrong position then I don't think that they can't play badly. But if I consider the formations mentioned above, then I think Christophe Galtier wants PSG to be stronger in midfield, because if they are strong in midfield then their defense and attack will also be good.

Of course they can play badly. I think it's pretty hard to get stars like Neymar or Messi to do the rough work and defend. They are used to skimming cream and engaging in attacks. Sometimes Mbappe comes back deeper than they do. In Ligue 1, all these teamplay flaws don't matter as PSG are the strongest, but when it comes to the Champions League relegation matches, the importance of these little things becomes critical.
5397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 on: January 19, 2023, 05:07:06 PM
Anish Giri is easily one of the world's current top 10 in chess, although him winning against Carlsen in a classical match is literally unheard of for the past decade. This win may either mean that Carlsen is somewhat not focused or Giri just prepared extremely for this tournament. Even GM Ding Liren got his lost against Pragnanandhaa in a classical match. Imagine a 2684 elo GM beating a 2811 elo grandmaster in chess IN A CLASSICAL MATCH, IN A TOURNAMENT? That's not something you see every time.

But as always, Carlsen will claw back in this tournament and win this. This is classical chess, and he's ranked number 1 in it for all the valid reasons.

Ding Liren's defeat is probably even more surprising than Carlsen's defeat - after all, Carlsen gave up the chess crown, and Ding Liren will take part in the match for it. I think no matter how much Carlsen deceives himself that by giving up the crown he will be able to continue to dominate as he used to in regular tournaments, this is not true. When an athlete loses motivation, it affects the results in all tournaments. Perhaps Carlsen is already on his way out of the top 1.
5398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: January 19, 2023, 05:00:13 PM
By the way, if United now holds the winning score with Crystal Palace, then they (albeit formally) will come out on a clean second place and will be higher than City. Who would have believed this at the start of the season?

 Roll Eyes I was kinda happy that we was holding the 0-1 score until the 90th minute then somehow Crystal Palace scored a goal, what a total pain though. Currently same point with City but tomorrow City will be playing their 19th games against Tottenham which I believe would be another 3 points for City considering that they lost last week

I had a strong feeling that United would not hold the winning score when I wrote this post (it can't be that good), but I didn't bet against the club I support.
You do not believe that City will lose points again, but on the other hand, Tottenham will also be in an extremely difficult situation if they lose points. I don’t know what to predict here, but as always I will hope that City will not win.
5399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 19, 2023, 04:48:01 PM
It is rumored from sources transfermarkts that Thomas Thucel will replace Conte in the coming months, if Tottenham cannot maintain being in the top 4 of the standings.

I'm hearing about this new. But it would be lovely to see Tuchel coming back to the Premier League. It would be better than seeing him in the Bundesliga honestly.

The reason why I think like it is that Tuchel had a great chemistry with Chelsea players and the league at the same time. Maybe the season didn't start well for them but we never know what he would have done if he was able to stay. I don't doubt his management at Tottenham also if this transfer happens. After Conte's departure Tottenham wouldn't have a big problem on adapting to Tuchel. Because these managers have some similaries in their game strategies in fact. Chelsea did good with both of these managers in the past.

It will be funny if Tuchel replaces Conte with whom he had a conflict (during that handshake). If Conte's fate depends on whether Tottenham can get into the top 4, then today is essentially a decisive game for him - if Tottenham do not win against City, then most likely they will hopelessly fall behind the top four plus Tottenham could even be displaced from 5th place .
5400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: January 19, 2023, 04:09:50 PM
In my opinion, Barcelona did not show anything special in the game with Real - in the first half, I would even say that Real had more moments of domination, but the conversion of chances and successful counterattacks in this game turned out to be on the side of Barcelona. After 2-0 the game was done, but note that the second half of the game was technically tied 1-1.
Let's say that Barcelona will play just as well against United, but it may turn out that United will score first and the game will go according to a different scenario.

It seems true after I have watched the highlights again and again. Real Madrid was not performing so badly at that moment but counter attack makes real Madrid a bit surprised. No problem for real Madrid. Losing in a game was a common thing as long as you will not try to repeat the same mistake again in the future. Real may know how to prevent Barcelona in the future. There will be el classic to come next months. This gonna be a very important match for both caused by winning the match will make the club even closer to the title of la liga.

This defeat can no longer be corrected since it was the final, but everyone understands that the most important titles of the season are not yet played. I hope that this is the defeat that will benefit Real Madrid - it would be worse if Real realized that it needs to be more focused or something to change, for example, already in the 1/8 finals of the Champions League. Now there is a lot of time ahead and you can disassemble the mistakes made and become better.
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