BTC is a store of value, "RICH MANS GOLD"

The poor can use BTC-z bitcoin-z, 25billion, cash of the poor

One shoe doesn't not fit all rich & poor

SHIT-COIN is very thinly traded amongst nerds, one of these shit-coins will eventually be adopted, most 3rd world country's now use 'phone credit' as money to transfer buy&sell.

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Just two days ago SEGWIT2 was declared dead!

Why? Because the 'experts' & bitcoin-core ppl now realize that Satoshi was right, that there is NO way in hell you can herd a bunch of cat's especially 51%, when there are millions of cats in a open desert.

All forks are dead,

WRT to the argument about fee's, slow transactions, ...

Fee's are a problem, but U don't have to pay the fee, and if you just wait until the next block u go into the front of queue,

Slow-transactions, again these are problems of fools, certainly 10 minutes or 2 hours is not bad if your moving $1M USD from a to b, what's the hurry?

WRT to buying coffee, well then use BTC-Z, its a penny coin that is essentially 100% BTC with equihash (GPU),

I think BTC will continue to be a 'rich mans' coin, no way in hell the average joe can own a coin, no more than the average joe can own an ounce of gold,

The average american don't have $500 USD in the bank, who in the hell is fooling who here?

NO BTC fork will ever get the 51% consensus, the writing is on the wall.

New Forks, or clones have to be VERY GOOD in order to surpass BTC, very good.

PPL forget these debates are not new, back in the 1990's or 1980's with PC's it was first that mattered, and best, and fastest, you had to be one of the three to be a king,

Same now BTC was first, and there they will stay, as for next tier u must be "BEST" who that be? Fastest again, as all is just a cheap clone, ...

I think 2nd gen BTC will come from somebody who rolls a new block-chain paradigm from scratch and resolves all the problems,

For now BTC will be the MODEL-T, perhaps it will have a 20+ year life, ... who knows, most likely it will become the rich mans gold,

Missing for most people is 'privacy', only they say Monero offers privacy, but it doesn't, thus IMHO the next COIN for the rich will be ...


1.) Fast
2.) Best
3.) Privacy, nobody knows, no public ledger, nobody knows whos rich
4.) untouchable by GOV, not even the NSA can break

Doing 1-4 above will require a team of people who are not sucking NSA cock, or being spoon fed by CIA, or MOSSAD.

Almost all coin including BITCOIN is uncomfortably too close to NSA, same for Monero and its questionable choice of EDSCA integers

IMHO the next BTC will come from some kid in Mexico or Laos, on his PC running his GPU, and he'll develop an ALGO that satisfy's 1-4

The problem with all coin to date, is that it all has vested interest by the "Powers that Be"

Take BITCOIN-GOLD, just a worthless piece of shit, but being pumped by richest guys in china, russia, and bulgaria, ... go figure; None of these are giving the little people what they need & want.

Once again, lets remind all of Satoshi's Vision.

1.) Free banking for all on earth

2.) little to no fee

3.) no transaction cost

4.) anonymous, nobody knows who has money and where

5.) no theft, nobody can steal your money

All governments on earth are organized criminals intent on robbing the sheep, thus the GUYS/GALS to who satisfy the needs of the sheep will NOT come from the status-quo educated elite.

U have two bank accounts, one for life savings (BTC), and another for day-2-day expense, the guy who figures out how to integrate this will make a fortune.

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MONERO doesn't cut the privacy test, and of course ALL BITCOIN CLones are an open book, and let everybody at the CIA/NSA/FBI know your spending habits.

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Can U handle the Truth?



Just two days ago SEGWIT2 was declared dead!

Why? Because the 'experts' & bitcoin-core ppl now realize that Satoshi was right, that there is NO way in hell you can herd a bunch of cat's especially 51%, when there are millions of cats in a open desert.

All forks are dead,

WRT to the argument about fee's, slow transactions, ...

Fee's are a problem, but U don't have to pay the fee, and if you just wait until the next block u go into the front of queue,

Slow-transactions, again these are problems of fools, certainly 10 minutes or 2 hours is not bad if your moving $1M USD from a to b, what's the hurry?

WRT to buying coffee, well then use BTC-Z, its a penny coin that is essentially 100% BTC with equihash (GPU),

I think BTC will continue to be a 'rich mans' coin, no way in hell the average joe can own a coin, no more than the average joe can own an ounce of gold,

The average american don't have $500 USD in the bank, who in the hell is fooling who here?

NO BTC fork will ever get the 51% consensus, the writing is on the wall.

New Forks, or clones have to be VERY GOOD in order to surpass BTC, very good.

PPL forget these debates are not new, back in the 1990's or 1980's with PC's it was first that mattered, and best, and fastest, you had to be one of the three to be a king,

Same now BTC was first, and there they will stay, as for next tier u must be "BEST" who that be? Fastest again, as all is just a cheap clone, ...

I think 2nd gen BTC will come from somebody who rolls a new block-chain paradigm from scratch and resolves all the problems,

For now BTC will be the MODEL-T, perhaps it will have a 20+ year life, ... who knows, most likely it will become the rich mans gold,

Missing for most people is 'privacy', only they say Monero offers privacy, but it doesn't, thus IMHO the next COIN for the rich will be ...


1.) Fast
2.) Best
3.) Privacy, nobody knows, no public ledger, nobody knows whos rich
4.) untouchable by GOV, not even the NSA can break

Doing 1-4 above will require a team of people who are not sucking NSA cock, or being spoon fed by CIA, or MOSSAD.

Almost all coin including BITCOIN is uncomfortably too close to NSA, same for Monero and its questionable choice of EDSCA integers

IMHO the next BTC will come from some kid in Mexico or Laos, on his PC running his GPU, and he'll develop an ALGO that satisfy's 1-4

The problem with all coin to date, is that it all has vested interest by the "Powers that Be"

Take BITCOIN-GOLD, just a worthless piece of shit, but being pumped by richest guys in china, russia, and bulgaria, ... go figure; None of these are giving the little people what they need & want.

Once again, lets remind all of Satoshi's Vision.

1.) Free banking for all on earth

2.) little to no fee

3.) no transaction cost

4.) anonymous, nobody knows who has money and where

5.) no theft, nobody can steal your money

All governments on earth are organized criminals intent on robbing the sheep, thus the GUYS/GALS to who satisfy the needs of the sheep will NOT come from the status-quo educated elite.

Just two days ago SEGWIT2 was declared dead!

Why? Because the 'experts' & bitcoin-core ppl now realize that Satoshi was right, that there is NO way in hell you can herd a bunch of cat's especially 51%, when there are millions of cats in a open desert.

All forks are dead,

WRT to the argument about fee's, slow transactions, ...

Fee's are a problem, but U don't have to pay the fee, and if you just wait until the next block u go into the front of queue,

Slow-transactions, again these are problems of fools, certainly 10 minutes or 2 hours is not bad if your moving $1M USD from a to b, what's the hurry?

WRT to buying coffee, well then use BTC-Z, its a penny coin that is essentially 100% BTC with equihash (GPU),

I think BTC will continue to be a 'rich mans' coin, no way in hell the average joe can own a coin, no more than the average joe can own an ounce of gold,

The average american don't have $500 USD in the bank, who in the hell is fooling who here?

NO BTC fork will ever get the 51% consensus, the writing is on the wall.

New Forks, or clones have to be VERY GOOD in order to surpass BTC, very good.

PPL forget these debates are not new, back in the 1990's or 1980's with PC's ( personal computer software ) it was first that mattered, and best, and fastest, you had to be one of the three to be a king,

Same now BTC was first, and there they will stay, as for next tier u must be "BEST" who that be? Fastest again, as all is just a cheap clone, ...

I think 2nd gen BTC will come from somebody who rolls a new block-chain paradigm from scratch and resolves all the problems,

For now BTC will be the MODEL-T, perhaps it will have a 20+ year life, ... who knows, most likely it will become the rich mans gold, and become a 'collectors item' for rich people.

Missing for most people is 'privacy', only they say Monero offers privacy, but it doesn't, thus IMHO the next COIN for the rich will be ...


1.) Fast
2.) Best
3.) Privacy, nobody knows, no public ledger, nobody knows whos rich
4.) untouchable by GOV, not even the NSA can break

Doing 1-4 above will require a team of people who are not sucking NSA cock, or being spoon fed by CIA, or MOSSAD.

Almost all coin including BITCOIN is uncomfortably too close to NSA, same for Monero and its questionable choice of ECDSA integers

IMHO the next BTC will come from some kid in Mexico or Laos, on his PC running his GPU, and he'll develop an ALGO that satisfy's 1-4

The problem with all coin to date, is that it all has vested interest by the "Powers that Be"

Take BITCOIN-GOLD, just a worthless piece of shit, but being pumped by richest guys in china, russia, and bulgaria, ... go figure; None of these are giving the little people what they need & want. BTG offers "Zero Privacy" thus in reality its just another way for GOV to tax sheep.

Once again, lets remind all of Satoshi's Vision.

1.) Free banking for all on earth

2.) little to no fee

3.) no transaction cost

4.) anonymous, nobody knows who has money and where

5.) no theft, nobody can steal your money

All governments on earth are organized criminals intent on robbing the sheep, thus the GUYS/GALS to who satisfy the needs of the sheep will NOT come from the status-quo educated elite.

What do U think?

R U willing to work on it?

I know many kids in Vietnam are working on this right now.

Move to a 3rd world country, and teach local kids at high schools how to write block-chains. This shit is not going to come from mainstream western civilization. The status quo has too much invested in continuity of governments.

Just two days ago SEGWIT2 was declared dead!

Why? Because the 'experts' & bitcoin-core ppl now realize that Satoshi was right, that there is NO way in hell you can herd a bunch of cat's especially 51%, when there are millions of cats in a open desert.

All forks are dead,

WRT to the argument about fee's, slow transactions, ...

Fee's are a problem, but U don't have to pay the fee, and if you just wait until the next block u go into the front of queue,

Slow-transactions, again these are problems of fools, certainly 10 minutes or 2 hours is not bad if your moving $1M USD from a to b, what's the hurry?

WRT to buying coffee, well then use BTC-Z, its a penny coin that is essentially 100% BTC with equihash (GPU),

I think BTC will continue to be a 'rich mans' coin, no way in hell the average joe can own a coin, no more than the average joe can own an ounce of gold,

The average american don't have $500 USD in the bank, who in the hell is fooling who here?

NO BTC fork will ever get the 51% consensus, the writing is on the wall.

New Forks, or clones have to be VERY GOOD in order to surpass BTC, very good.

PPL forget these debates are not new, back in the 1990's or 1980's with PC's it was first that mattered, and best, and fastest, you had to be one of the three to be a king,

Same now BTC was first, and there they will stay, as for next tier u must be "BEST" who that be? Fastest again, as all is just a cheap clone, ...

I think 2nd gen BTC will come from somebody who rolls a new block-chain paradigm from scratch and resolves all the problems,

For now BTC will be the MODEL-T, perhaps it will have a 20+ year life, ... who knows, most likely it will become the rich mans gold,

Missing for most people is 'privacy', only they say Monero offers privacy, but it doesn't, thus IMHO the next COIN for the rich will be ...


1.) Fast
2.) Best
3.) Privacy, nobody knows, no public ledger, nobody knows whos rich
4.) untouchable by GOV, not even the NSA can break

Doing 1-4 above will require a team of people who are not sucking NSA cock, or being spoon fed by CIA, or MOSSAD.

Almost all coin including BITCOIN is uncomfortably too close to NSA, same for Monero and its questionable choice of EDSCA integers

IMHO the next BTC will come from some kid in Mexico or Laos, on his PC running his GPU, and he'll develop an ALGO that satisfy's 1-4

The problem with all coin to date, is that it all has vested interest by the "Powers that Be"

Take BITCOIN-GOLD, just a worthless piece of shit, but being pumped by richest guys in china, russia, and bulgaria, ... go figure; None of these are giving the little people what they need & want.

Once again, lets remind all of Satoshi's Vision.

1.) Free banking for all on earth

2.) little to no fee

3.) no transaction cost

4.) anonymous, nobody knows who has money and where

5.) no theft, nobody can steal your money

All governments on earth are organized criminals intent on robbing the sheep, thus the GUYS/GALS to who satisfy the needs of the sheep will NOT come from the status-quo educated elite.

Bitcoin-z ? BTC-Z u be talking about??

or

Zencash, or zcash, or zerocash, all gpu equihash based

Surely, your not talking about the shit-coin BTG aka bitcoin-coin? BTG turns gold into shit, turns BTC's into alt-coins.

When the shoe-shine boy is advising U to buy alt-coins, ...

"Sell Mortimer, Sell" - trading places the movies

$450k is NOT a lot of money, its chump change, somebody would be far better to sit on it, or buy gold, which isn't likely to go away

In a years time of these alt-coins will be gone

These day-traders and their penny-stocks, or their penny alt-coins, it comes around every decade, and it ALWAYS ends the same.

"The secret of money is keeping it, not making more" - J P Morgan ( richest man in the world in his day )

"Making money is easy, keeping it is hard" - JP Morgan

A fool and his money spent on alt-coin is soon departed

what operating system u on?

what miner are u using?

open or closed source

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Be very careful your cards are $600 each, and its SUPER-EASY to kill them, most of the bullshit I see on the net will fry your cards,

Personally I use linux, and keep my power ( in watts ) well below 110 watts on my gtx-170 class cards, no problem to get 35MH

U need to MODEL one card first, you can't learn on the rig, U need to learn about ONE-CARD, know its limits its characteristics most mining software like ewbf or claymore will crash once you push the clock to the limit, I find open-source (ccminer) to be much more stable

There are 1,000's of variable, but the first deal is to PROTO-TYPE your gtx-1070 take one card, put it in a stand-alone system and LEARN how it working learn about power, fan, clocking of memory & gpu; learn et-al

IMHO windows sucks, sure you can use a MSI GUI and its pretty, but u make a mistake and fry your card,

It's better on linux, you use the cmd-line, nvidia-settings and nivdia-smi, and you can write scripts that automatically config your miners at boot, but FIRST U MUST learn how to use these tools, first U must know what your actually doing.

This stuff takes time, and +90% of the ppl I see here don't have a clue what's going on underneath the sheets

More important than MH, is power, as YOUR profit at the end of the day is more dependent upon your electricity bill than you MH-HASH rate.

Optimizing power/profit, hash/algo all takes time, experts use the cmd-lines, idiots use the GUI

It's DOA, not going to happen KAPUT

All the other x11 coins are penny coin worth 2 satoshi, only 'dash' was high value, now with a D3 you can mine $2 dash/day, but it costs $4/day for electricity, the other coins U can mine, but the ROI is still negative.

What's a D-3 good for?? space heater, if you can handle the noise of a jet engine in your house

In theory the ASIC should have a 'developers kit' it should have a way to down-load micro-code and re-deploy the HW, sadly BITMAIN doesn't work that way, they're control freaks, and NEVER give their customers the keys to the car.

It's from the 1950's, what is NEW is the GPU made it possible,
The entire reason CUDA exists and the nvidia devleopers library is-was so that scientists could code ML algo's.

All the science was developed in 1950's for ML, 1980's a guy discovered backwardization, its stalled in 1990's cuz CPUS were too slow, but now with GTX-1080 class machines anybody with a desktop can generate their own ML.

Just a few days ago a ORANGE grower somewhere 'rolled' is own AI-ML sorting machine for 'oranges' if I remember right, he trained the ML to recognize some 100's of defects and types, and BINGO he had a sorting machine that could recognize any orange, or any fruit for that matter better than a human,

This is why all these AG jobs will go away, pretty soon NO HUMAN will be involved in BIG-AG

The math/physics is all 1950's people, nothing new, its just the GPU in the last 5 years that made all this possible with a $1000 class cpu/gpu.

This is OLD news, they talked about this last year,

The ML algo is well known, so it can be placed on asic

What good is it ?

Self driving cars, spy cameras with ability to ID U built inside, red-light cameras that read license plates and email u a speeding ticket,

Big Brother SPYING IOT all on one chip,


All the algos, language translation, image analysis, big-data analysis, its all down now to one small common well understood algorithm

Have they delivered the chip? Is it working? Probably not, Google is also working on the same chip, everybody is

The thing to remember is that BITMAIN is a one trick pony, an the S9 is dead, nothing new is coming as nobody can get 14nm or smaller to work, so in order t stay in biz BITMAIN had to find new markets, so they play the same trick as 'mining' they promise something and hope that the can get the money up front and some day deliver,

The problem is the ML people ( mostly NSA, CIA, FBI MS FB ) google-is-nsa type spying level, they're NOT going to use chinese shit because the US-GOV wants control of the world,

Now I doubt that BITMAIN will give us the $1 chip that does ML, but certainly the people who make the rasberry-pi clone CPU can and will.

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two most general and popular algo's are ...

    Artificial Neural Networks

    Deep Neural Networks (Convolutional or Recurrent Networks)

Both of the above can be coded in a page of PYTHON, so its easy to learn this stuff, but it takes a bunch of GPU ( 1080 class ) to 'train', but once you train the system with your data, then you can get 99.9% which is better than a human,

all of it works pretty much the same, huge matrixes are correlated and then a calculus descent function is applied to find the optimum

Y = F (X)

Say you have an 'x' it could be photo of a woman, and you want a Y that indicates on a scale 1-10 is she hot or not, ... the ML algo will generate you a F() function ( matrix ) that will take the image, and return you a number 1-10 of 'Y'.

Now how the F() is built is training, both super-vised and un-supervised learning, supervised is where I pass the algo 1M photos and I tell it 1-10 for each photo, eventually the algo figures it all out, un-supervised training is where the algo all on its own figures out what is a 1, and what is 10,

The best in developing this shit is 10% supervised, followed  by 90% un-supervised, once the algo gets general idea, it will always learn better than a human, but initial seed of 10% supervised gets it in the right direction.

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Now set back and think in the general form of problems

Y = F ( x )

x can be anything, and Y can be what ever u want, about 8 years ago I wrote on ML that took any music 'live' (MP3) and generated 'music script' so that I could play guitar of any song I wish, the transcription sw at the time was expensive and didn't work so I rolled my own.

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Now specific to MINING, say you have a bitcoin address and you want its PRIVATE-KEY, well there is a database on line of all training data, so you train an ML to learn the relation between all addresses and all keys, ... this algo actually exists

Lot's of interesting stuff to think about

U got the pool ( niburu.com ) for BTG, and you got it all right? Its working? R U testnet mining on the shared peer node-list or are you running on a private internal -testnet?

I ask because for 3 weeks pool.gold has been running 'shared peer', thus why in hell would U & Suprnova.cc NOT do the same.

Just asking, why the insult? U make it appear that people shouldn't be asking questions.

I'm sure that U being on OWNER of a BTG POOL, should be FRONT&CENTER promoting your own pool and making it work.

U know now as well as I that out of the gate suprnova.cc is going to get 99.9% of the UNIVERSAL PUBLIC POOL HASH, which means the 1/2 dozens penny-ante mining pools ( niburu ) will not even be able to cover costs for their VPS

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Relax, surely your joking Einstein, I don't have any stake in this FAUX SHIT-COIN SCAM, but U do, thus its U that need to relax, I'm just an audience clown enjoying the show.

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Einstien, I have a question for U,

http://btg.nibirupool.com/

Why does YOUR POOL have no software? WHy not running, why no miners? Why U not even testing? What's the point???

How are you going to be ready in 24 hours when You don't even have a SINGLE miner on your pool?

It just doens't make sense, that U are not mining your own pool???

Or is your pool like the other six, just part of the faux scam to make it appear that BTG has a community??

It's NOT 'ok'

Cuz code is supposed to go live in 24 hours ( If u believe in tooth fairys )

suprnova.cc has big problems, its reporting the wrong hash-rates for reasons we don't know, and they're getting all the blocks, which makes sense if the hash-rates are real

wrt to the argument that suprnova is too stupid not to use the node-list and have peers and do a world-shared tesetnet, I would argue that the MORONS at pool.gold ( github.com/btcgpu ) got that right, so we must assume that given suprnova.cc is 10000X smarter than the dumb-asses at pool.gold that suprnova.cc would have added peer nodes to the source, especially given that the add-node software is python in the distro provided by github.com/btcgpu

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BTGold is NOT LIVE YET !!!!!

You are mining worthless testnet coins currently. This is used to set up your rigs, test everything and then switch over to "real" coins once the devs of BTG release the mainnet wallets. There is no precise date for that release yet. You can test everything but remember - YOU'RE MINING ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS TESTNET COINS !!!

why would he run his own fork? his own nodes? This stuff is easy to get.

Besides take ZEC "ZCASH" here is SOL-RATE Pool Hash: 7,768.90 kSol/s

that sounds about right 800k - ksol's, and very popular equihash coin

Perhaps your right, but why 'test a pool' and not test the shared-node pool? The nodes are out there, the node gathering python code is in the DISTRO on github.com/btcgpu

Assuming that the smartest pool on the block, would NOT test the world is bizarre, what does it prove to test their own private internal node chain?

Pool.Gold is not run its own private, you can see that because they're never getting more than a few percent of total nodes, so they're doing it right,

So why would suprnova.cc have taken the 'lazy approach'??

IMHO perhaps faux-miners are feeding retarded hash-rates and the suprnova.cc btg server doesn't have a handle on real versus average versus faux

Just pointing out its very strange, perhaps U have an argument, but your simplifying the problem

There are TWO problems I brought up, the rediculous hash rate 800K Million-Sol's/sec and the fact that they're getting +99% of all blocks, well sure as hell they would be getting all blocks, pool.gold is only getting 1% of what suprnova is reporting, so it would all make sense if the 800k Million sols/sec were real,

btg.suprnova.cc

Pool Hash Rate    794,048.179 MSol/s

pool.gold ( same incompetent morons running github.com/btcgpu )

383.45 KSol/s

Incompetent idiots, have now even lost control of mining, suprnova.cc knows what they're doing out of the gate they will own BTG mining forever,

Sure the BTG dev's pre-mined +200,000 that we know of for themselves, and who knows how much pre-mining they have done with early release of software (mainnet) to insiders, I know sammy-007 ( proxy solo ) is working with them so the early dev's can have early access to solo mining.

Should be interesting show, still SUPRNOVA warns everyone that current testnet coin is worthless, but its clear that people are wasting a TON of hash to be first idiots to get the BTG when it goes live

Pool.Gold has been taking in +1000K sols/sec for 3+ weeks, but now has dropped to 300k

Can't believe that 800k Msol/sec rating on suprnova, but must be true they're getting +99% of blocks

ALL IS A SCAM

Seriously, sceptical of anything be ready within 24 hours

Latest release date of 4, is 12NOV@1200UTC, but then this is their 4th time they have said they would release some shit-coin live that had working software,

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Current difficulty of testnet is 60,000, again I can't believe it true that SUPRNOVA is getting 800k MSols/sec, but if that be true, or even partially true, then what of a mining rig of 1070? at maybe 3,000 sols/sec, maybe they'll get 0.0001 BTG/day, and make a whopping  $2, with a $4/day cost of electricity, and the profit will only go down.

Where the FUCK does 800k Msol/sec come from? Do the chinese already have ASIC EQUIHASH running?? Jeebus x christ??

DUMBFOUNDED

It's the 'disposable camera' business model, run a few hashes and toss, and buy new. Typically chinese business;

I personally NEVER buy HW that I can't MICRO-CODE, I guess that's an old-school idea, BITMAIN ain't know for its software, so NEVER expect them to offer a generalized solution, ppl say the Japanese & Koreans are both working on this, probably be closer to an FPGA, but no reason that a general purpose asic state machine couldn't be fabricated.

If I were BITMAIN I would be working on LBC large-bitcoin-collider machines, that would sell like hot-cakes next generation mining it will be more profitable to hack existing known 'rich man coins', than looking for the block of 12,6, or 3; Smart guy to could set them up to target the EDSCA-d and reduce the brute-force search to manageable time's.

This is why BTC will drag its ass on SHA2 just a matter of time before LBC HW ASIC's are released. They will sell like condoms in bangkok

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The assertion was it NOT in BITMAINS interest to deliver a general purpose machine ( flexible micro-codable asic hw ), the domain of customers is small and they have been trained like seals to buy S1, S2, ... S9, ... S10, if the biz model works, why fix it?

I would expect that design to come from MIT, and perhaps a initial custom ASIC 1st gen fabrication be crowd sourced, and fabricated in China of course so that chip's are $1/each

U R right, DASH shit is better than CANNABIS but there are two other shit coins even better than dash-shit

onx $6.20
dpc
dash $5.80
cannabis $5.50

http://whattomine.com/asic

DPC & ONX will both get 10's of 1,000's of penny coins per day with a  D3

Then when U exchange them into DASH/BTC and pay the 50% fee, .... u still will not cover the power cost ( est $4/day @ 0.15 kwh)

X11 quite curious, most algo's like equihash have a clear leader, but many trade with 10%, but in the case of X11, only one has value and the rest trade at 2 satoshi, ...

Cryptonight might be the same, Ethash is interesting,

I have to ask what next trick of the one trick pony BITMAIN, can they make a faster s9? Many are saying NOT

Experts are saying they also can't do equihash or ethash anytime soon,  they must be really worried.

I suspect in a year nobody will even remember their name, like so many since 2011 that are no longer mentioned ( asic miners )


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The future will be Gtx-1070 clones ( sucking <10 watts ) on a USB stick, deja-vu folks; Fully programmable and CUDA compliant chinese cloning
If I were BITMAIN that's what I would be working on

No, it means I'm REALLY GLAD I didn't buy one

I think there were a 1,000 ppl on this forum 2-3 months ago predicted that once these 50,000 D3's hit the street that difficulty would skyrocket and profit would go to ZERO, and the thing is like always, the experts were right.

Another thing that was predicted in August 2017 is that bit-coin-Gold is a SCAM, and guess what the experts were right, but the shills are still active,

Hell there are probably shill's for D3's;

Even BITMAIN has taken the D3 off their product list and raised the price of S-9's

IMHO NEVER buy specific single application HW, this what is great about GPU's you can make them do anything, but a D3 is not even a useful boat anchor.

CANNABIS-COIN ( marijuana coin ) is the only X11 crypto that you can mine and pay your power bill

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Seriously I came so close to buying one back in August, so glad it didn't happen


A 1,000 Watts costs me $4/day, exactly how much profit they turn for DASH, trouble is they're a super loud space heater and the wife would not accept the noise. Next month when the 'last' 50,000 are delivered I suspect the profit will be less than $1/day for all X-11 coins.


ASIC CUSTOM Dev Kit for Algo Redeploy on D3
WRT to the assertion of redeploying the micro-code, NADA it has never happened, sure in theory somebody could offer a developer's kit and sell general purpose ASIC box at 20TH that you could pre-compile an algo, but this is NOT in the business model of BITMAIN, they want the same suckers to trash and buy new, providing U all with code would kill their business model.

U download their 'testnet' code github.com/btcgpu

U go into bgoldd-daemon.cpp, and you comment out two C++ lines that say "if not -testnet on cmd-line, then throw exit()", then rebuild

Now U have a working wallet to do as you wish.

I suspect that's how these online scams that generate addresses/private-key's are working they have a server running the daemon, but keep the priv-keys in a database for later use ( with-drawing funds from idiots who trusted public websites for wallets ).

Of course someone could also write a python script for generating a 'G' address for BTG, but why bother when u can just comment out two lines of code.

That would be pool dependent, if your solo mining right now test is 18332 and main is 8332 by default,

Every pool has its own proxy, and its own ports

I think suprnova.cc being a good company, and wanting to keep the transistion perfect would use the same port as they have for testing, this way their customers make no changes, besides what would be the point of keep the -testnet active for the mining pools, nobody wants to mine a 'testnet' that promises zero coin

For the other mining pools, you probably would need to study their 'how to'

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Here's what SUPRNOVA.CC is saying ...

BTGold is NOT LIVE YET !!!!!

You are mining worthless testnet coins currently. This is used to set up your rigs, test everything and then switch over to "real" coins once the devs of BTG release the mainnet wallets. There is no precise date for that release yet. You can test everything but remember - YOU'RE MINING ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS TESTNET COINS !!!

TESTNET-PORT IS: stratum+tcp://btg.suprnova.cc:8816 Nicehash: 8862

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See right now they say "TESTNET-PORT" 8816, that will probably drop, and no reason to say MAIN-NET, problem is that suprnova.cc can't activate until they have the working code, and nobody has the code cuz it hasn't been released, and there is no public block-chain for the post fork main-net

The pools will not be getting the code ( source github.com/btcgpu ) any earlier than anybody else, most likely the 'first' to mine, will be those who mine solo, and have their own blocks ready to go when they get the source, ... which is promised 12NOV @ noon, but this the 4th promise in 3 weeks, thus promises mean nothing from BTC-GPU.

WRT to other pool's who knows,

Now POOL.GOLD they're part of the BTC_GPU team, so they will have the code early, and they will probably day's ahead of all other mining pools, because they have insiders advantage, thus MAJORITY of miners will be on POOL.GOLD,

Once suprnova.cc gets got up on the blockchain, and has the source, then the miners will most likely end up there, as suprnova.cc is a good company, and can handle the over-load, while btc-gpu/pool.gold cannot handle a load, as we know a few weeks ago a MINOR dos attack brought them down.

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Precise date language above is important, this is the 4th 'deadline' for delivery that BTC-GPU has given us in 3 weeks, ergo its not likely that they will deliver on 12NOV@noon. Incompetent people are frequently forced by their superiors ( jack liao ) to work for a new dead-line, but given the team hasn't changed, and the same ppl are still fumbling along, its NOT likely to get better, more likely to get worse.

Read carefully what suprnova.cc is saying here

Note these are the ONLY honest mining pool on earth


'The BTG U MINE has NO VALUE"

"We have not a clue in the world when this will go online"