to everyone who thinks uro is a scam, here is the one question that convinced me. What is the motivation behind this coin, the incentive to actually use it? no cryptocoin can be of any real value unless it is useful to either a broad section of society, or to a niche business where it serves as both a viable and superior alternative to fiat currencies. Otherwise you just may as well write a check, or swipe a debit card. sure the transaction fees are lower, but if you are spending 20 bucks at a time, it doesn't matter to you. The speed of supersend and the various additions to the anonymous coins of privacy features are prime examples of trying to create a perceived incentive to use them. Until you can pay for basic needs such as food, clothing, shelter, and beer, cryptocoins are just a video game. it's like playing an online casino using a random nunber generator. This coin was engineered for a specific purpose, and is the first of it's kind. Follow the money from there, and always ask, who benefits? where is the advantage for them? This is how I was able to gain the breadth of knowledge necessary to come to a coherent theory. If there are any lies here, it is lying by omission. It's what they don't say that will make or break YOU. Now is the time to hold, in my opinion. just watch carefully for any information released, because they will tell you only what they want you to know. It's not setup to scam you, but it's not made for your benefit either. You have to find the opportunity for yourselves.
UROCOIN IS NOT A SCAM TO AQUIRE BITCOIN FROM YOU.
Mr green, is it ok to bump? This took some time to put together, and I really want the community to consider this. thank you. |
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It's not setup to scam you, but it's not made for your benefit either. You have to find the opportunity for yourselves.
UROCOIN IS NOT A SCAM TO AQUIRE BITCOIN FROM YOU.
This is the key point here. You're not going to get the proof you want because no one cares that you want it. The coin will succeed or fail, and it will have nothing to do with you. If you're reading this, you're not who this coin is made for. You merely have an opportunity to speculate on making money with it, or not, as you choose. Ultimately what you believe about the coin is irrelevant to the coin itself. The coin has ALREADY succeeded. It has accomplished the purpose for which it was created as soon as the contract was secured from IPL.(If it has been) THIS IS MY OPINION. IT IS NOT A CONFIRMED FACT. |
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Something just crossed my mind. By cutting out the commodity exchanges URO gets rid of one important feature - the escrow service. I don't care how legit a company is but shit happens all the time even to the best of us. So, I wouldn't trust anyone with some $4M worth of my money until I can see the goods. That's why commodity exchanges operate first and foremost as escrow services. Is an escrow service for URO being planned?
blockcypher will allow multi sig wallet = escrow But still there's a need for a trusted entity that would release the funds upon certifying the delivery of goods. I mean anything can happen like an earthquake or a civil war. In this case the seller wouldn't be able to deliver. It's even listed in the boilerplate contract attached to the URO Protocol. While a disaster is too bad for the seller, the buyer would probably want the money back. What guarantees he/she will have? The buyer will still be liable to provide the goods and may be sued for the full amount of the contract plus court costs,fees, and penalties. This is why shipments are insured. If insured, the insurance company may provide full or partial restitution to the injured party. There are no real guarantees in anything. There is only a system in place to react to circumstances in what is generally accepted by society as a "FAIR" manner. The law can give me a fair trial, but the law in and of itself cannot stop me from killing someone. Only my own judgement and restraint can do that. Rational thought wins every time. |
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to everyone who thinks uro is a scam, here is the one question that convinced me. What is the motivation behind this coin, the incentive to actually use it? no cryptocoin can be of any real value unless it is useful to either a broad section of society, or to a niche business where it serves as both a viable and superior alternative to fiat currencies. Otherwise you just may as well write a check, or swipe a debit card. sure the transaction fees are lower, but if you are spending 20 bucks at a time, it doesn't matter to you. The speed of supersend and the various additions to the anonymous coins of privacy features are prime examples of trying to create a perceived incentive to use them. Until you can pay for basic needs such as food, clothing, shelter, and beer, cryptocoins are just a video game. it's like playing an online casino using a random nunber generator. This coin was engineered for a specific purpose, and is the first of it's kind. Follow the money from there, and always ask, who benefits? where is the advantage for them? This is how I was able to gain the breadth of knowledge necessary to come to a coherent theory. If there are any lies here, it is lying by omission. It's what they don't say that will make or break YOU. Now is the time to hold, in my opinion. just watch carefully for any information released, because they will tell you only what they want you to know. It's not setup to scam you, but it's not made for your benefit either. You have to find the opportunity for yourselves.
UROCOIN IS NOT A SCAM TO AQUIRE BITCOIN FROM YOU.
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proof that is real business?
Fuds?
loved your work with CoffeeCoin and Spaetacus Coin article great work. some will say scam here, and some wont. theres a lot of reading involved to figure out an indefinite answer. so far no one has proven its a scam, but theres no evidence a ship filled with urea paid for in uro is on its way to india either. all we can do is trust the players or distrust them. I'll be very pleased to finally find out they have been truthful 100%. and if its an elaborate scam then golf clap for the depth and commitment The contract with IPL should be proof enough. If Rivaa fails to execute, they will face tremendous consequences. The urea is real enough. Question is, how do we, the community, profit from this deal? |
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Something just crossed my mind. By cutting out the commodity exchanges URO gets rid of one important feature - the escrow service. I don't care how legit a company is but shit happens all the time even to the best of us. So, I wouldn't trust anyone with some $4M worth of my money until I can see the goods. That's why commodity exchanges operate first and foremost as escrow services. Is an escrow service for URO being planned?
This isn't a futures market, it's a direct contract for consideration under the U.N. equivalent of the Uniform Commercial Code. If individuals are eventually able to buy smaller amounts directly, an escrow service would probably need to be provided by the reseller breaking down the shipments. Business opportunity there, for anyone with access to venture capital.... I mean the current deal with Rivaa and IPL. |
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Something just crossed my mind. By cutting out the commodity exchanges URO gets rid of one important feature - the escrow service. I don't care how legit a company is but shit happens all the time even to the best of us. So, I wouldn't trust anyone with some $4M worth of my money until I can see the goods. That's why commodity exchanges operate first and foremost as escrow services. Is an escrow service for URO being planned?
This isn't a futures market, it's a direct contract for consideration under the U.N. equivalent of the Uniform Commercial Code. If individuals are eventually able to buy smaller amounts directly, an escrow service would probably need to be provided by the reseller breaking down the shipments. Business opportunity there, for anyone with access to venture capital.... |
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So your position is that nobody should invest in uro? Why not just state that outright? You feel it's an infringement of your rights to have your posts deleted, is it not an infringement of my rights to try and restrain me from spending my hard earned money in whatever way I choose? It's my money. If I want to buy uro I will. If you don't, don't. have you anything at all useful to add? |
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I've followed out several scenarios based upon available information.
Here is my chain of logic BASED UPON ALL OF THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, BE IT TRUE OR FALSE.
WHY? tie the coin to urea, something most people have never even heard of?
Because you have a financial interest in that commodity, as a manufacturer, wholesaler, or retailer.
HOW? does this benefit you? (This was the toughest, and I may not be entirely correct here, but I'm certain that I'm close.)
By creating a network which allows you to bring your product to market faster and cheaper than your competitors. With Government contracts involved, this is a very heavy factor. You will wait some time for payment, but it is guaranteed by the full faith of the national treasury.
WHAT? is the process by which you attain that advantage? You create a system that allows you to avoid Government regulations which require involvement through several layers of Bureaucracy
WHERE? In a country with A. Great market demand OR B. Under-served or expanding markets. (India is still an agricultural economy and has the largest land area under cultivation in the world.) (Pakistan has tense relations with India, and is under-served due to this)
WHEN? The success of Bitcoin as an alternative to fiat currency and the massive influx of new cryptocoins make this the perfect time. There is ample proof if needed in a court of law to prove that cryptocoins are a viable payment method.
WHO? at this point, if the other questions have been answered- IT DOESN'T MATTER. You can be assured that whoever it is is playing their own angle and knows the game
Every time I come here there's a new troll under the bridge.
This is my position on uro. What's your theory mr guglimugli?
Do you even have one? Can you fault my logic? Or are you just here to disrupt the flow of information by picking fights and creating drama?
OH PLS CAN ANYONE HERE TALKS NORMAL OR DO YOU LOOK FOR CYBER FIGHTS? why do you attack me like that? what did I do to you? come on! do you think I care what you say after you came to me like this? [/ You poor helpless victim, you....  |
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I've followed out several scenarios based upon available information.
Here is my chain of logic BASED UPON ALL OF THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, BE IT TRUE OR FALSE.
WHY? tie the coin to urea, something most people have never even heard of?
Because you have a financial interest in that commodity, as a manufacturer, wholesaler, or retailer.
HOW? does this benefit you? (This was the toughest, and I may not be entirely correct here, but I'm certain that I'm close.)
By creating a network which allows you to bring your product to market faster and cheaper than your competitors. With Government contracts involved, this is a very heavy factor. You will wait some time for payment, but it is guaranteed by the full faith of the national treasury.
WHAT? is the process by which you attain that advantage? You create a system that allows you to avoid Government regulations which require involvement through several layers of Bureaucracy
WHERE? In a country with A. Great market demand OR B. Under-served or expanding markets. (India is still an agricultural economy and has the largest land area under cultivation in the world.) (Pakistan has tense relations with India, and is under-served due to this)
WHEN? The success of Bitcoin as an alternative to fiat currency and the massive influx of new cryptocoins make this the perfect time. There is ample proof if needed in a court of law to prove that cryptocoins are a viable payment method.
WHO? at this point, if the other questions have been answered- IT DOESN'T MATTER. You can be assured that whoever it is is playing their own angle and knows the game
Every time I come here there's a new troll under the bridge.
This is my position on uro. What's your theory mr guglimugli?
Do you even have one? Can you fault my logic? Or are you just here to disrupt the flow of information by picking fights and creating drama?
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If you really want proof that uro is backed by big business, big money, there is a way to prove this. I have said, previously, based upon my understanding of the available information, that the companies will pay up to 80-85% of the reasonable market value of 1 metric tonne urea. The order book is packed with 5-6-7 btc orders. If you want to know if these are from private party investors, or from corporate exploitation, build a sell wall at .1 btc. Wait about a week or so. If this is, as I suspect, an engineered attempt to secure an extremely profitable government contract by operating in a legal 'gray area", where no decision has been rendered by the courts as to the legal status of cryptocoins as a payment method, and will probably take years to be heard and decide, if it is pressed in the courts ( which I personally think it will be, but this has no bearing on the coin at this time), the buy orders will continue. If there are no buys at this price, then you can lower your sell threshold to the .01 range it's been trading at, and which the market seems to support. If it works, you get at least 10x the pay. If not, you wait a week for your reward. Once the contract has been fulfilled, these people have no use for you, always remember that. To any business human capital is only valuable to the extent that it allows SOMEONE ELSE TO PROFIT FROM THE USE OF YOUR MIND AND BODY. MAKE THEM PAY. THEY WON'T SHARE UNLESS YOU FORCE THEM TO.
That would require all participants of the entire market to act as one... you are saying "you" as though it is a single entity selling. To clarify, I mean you, the community supporting this coin, as a whole. It's an appeal to combine your strength for the common good. It's a union without dues, based upon mutual respect and forgoing an instant small gain to provide a gateway for the entire community to profit as they should. Fear and greed are the worst motivations. Just price your coins at an advantage and see if someone who knows something you don't will still see this as a bargain. Then you can return to playing the market for max effect and trying to screw each other out of pennies. I understand it takes the fun out of it, the only thing holding this coin back is FEAR. STAND UP TOGETHER OR FALL DOWN ONE BY ONE. |
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If you really want proof that uro is backed by big business, big money, there is a way to prove this. I have said, previously, based upon my understanding of the available information, that the companies will pay up to 80-85% of the reasonable market value of 1 metric tonne urea. The order book is packed with 5-6-7 btc orders. If you want to know if these are from private party investors, or from corporate exploitation, build a sell wall at .1 btc. Wait about a week or so. If this is, as I suspect, an engineered attempt to secure an extremely profitable government contract by operating in a legal 'gray area", where no decision has been rendered by the courts as to the legal status of cryptocoins as a payment method, and will probably take years to be heard and decide, if it is pressed in the courts ( which I personally think it will be, but this has no bearing on the coin at this time), the buy orders will continue. If there are no buys at this price, then you can lower your sell threshold to the .01 range it's been trading at, and which the market seems to support. If it works, you get at least 10x the pay. If not, you wait a week for your reward. Once the contract has been fulfilled, these people have no use for you, always remember that. To any business human capital is only valuable to the extent that it allows SOMEONE ELSE TO PROFIT FROM THE USE OF YOUR MIND AND BODY. MAKE THEM PAY. THEY WON'T SHARE UNLESS YOU FORCE THEM TO.
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the next thing this community needs is a fiat-uro exchange. We can e mail cryptsy and vote for a uro-usd market. true-asset, if you are around, why not contact the big exchanges, like coinbase, and see if you can interest them in a uro exchange?
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50 btc buy orders on 35000 satoshi spread? 900000-935000? use your head people.
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do you know WHY the market is moving? it's because no matter how much you put up for sale there is a buyer who will snap it up instantly.
Why sell cheap?
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I'm watching the run on bittrex and laughing at the guys giving away 30k worth of product for 600 usd
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URO to move into Pakistan very soon...as more importers release the value of Urocoin GES import #Urea to Pakistan 2014-2015 last hurdles with TCP clears up. Local importers excited as GES promises low Urea prices for Farmers https://twitter.com/GESystemsgroupall of you who are selling low are subsidizing this deal. |
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BRAVO!!!POST OF THE MONTH!!! ALL YOU NEED IS BALLS AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DISCIPLINE! I know you and I butted heads a lil bit, Crypto, but you have my respect, sir. Thank You.
I got discipline from my military service. I still do. There's a big difference between discipline and obedience. The later is not one of my favorites. As for the balls, they dropped the first time when I got shot at at the age of 8. Now, come, feel them.  Discipline means doing what you have to do when you KNOW it's gonna hurt. I do it every day. You wouldn't want ME to feel your balls, if they were in my hand, I'd be twisting them off.  I've had guns pulled on me many times, but never been shot. Maybe because I'd look them right in the eye and BEG them to put me out of my misery. I'm not that lucky, I guess. I responded to a mugger once by putting my mouth over the barrel of his revolver and placing my hands together as though praying. I truly don't give a fuck. Seems I've found a kindred soul. Fuck you and prosper. |
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The weak are dumping on bittrex. That's good. It'll come back hard when there's an empty sell book.
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Disclaimer#1: This post will offend most of you as people nowdays tend to be offended by the stuff they don’t like and to completely ignore the stuff they do.
Disclaimer #2: This post contains a goatfucking shitload of profanity. Deal with it, pussies!
Disclamer #3: Author’s point of view may not coincide with his/her opinion.
Here are some random thoughts that I had while watching The Great URO Holy War so far.
1. Give me some proof, motherfucker! Hard liquor is the only thing in the world that has proof. Death and taxes are the only things that are certain. Hey, give me proof Obama was born in the USA! Personally, I don’t give a flying genetically engineered rat’s ass about it. He’s the President and he probably doesn’t either. Do you? Well, sucks for you in that case! In our case, the market will show. When somebody buys it – it’s gonna go up. That’s it.
2. Deals, documents, blahblahblah. So far URO had been mostly traded by the bots. The only way to see if it’s real – a massive purchase. It won’t happen as quick as some might think. There’s a lot of leeway for the buyers to slowly accumulate URO at low prices. That’s until the suppliers hoard-up most of URO.
3. GES didn’t post on Twitter for a year! Ok, that DOES seem weird.
4. IT’S A SCAM! If it goes up and I sell it in time then it’s a good scam. Good and evil are relative to the subject. Of course, I’d love the idea of crypto-backed currencies to take off but if I just make money on this “scam” – so be it. It may kill my dream but I’ll be rich, bitch!
5. GES is bankrupt! Ummm… Let’s get back to #1. I’ve got a proof that MtGox is bankrupt because I just got a letter from the Japanese court (with cute stamps and shit) that says it all. Can I see some GES bankruptcy proceedings? Btw, I didn’t get that goxed, but it’s still a cute letter.
6. IT’S A SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!!!1l1l1 Go find a cure for cancer or something. There are three things that I’ve seen the humanity to put over 90% of effort and resources into: killing, fucking, and getting shitfaced. People who spend 24/7 FUDding are either assholes or insane… assholes. Now, go put that energy to some REAL use.
7. 7. Oh, poor farmer! Look, no matter how much of a good image this whole ordeal gives to the signatories of the URO protocol, it’s NOT about the “poor farmer.” The farmer WILL stay poor. There's a long chain going from the producer to the farmer. Producer => Bank => Trader (whale) => Bank => Transporter/Importer => Bank => Distributor => Bank => Poor Framer => Tax and Bank (most of farmers own to the bank). The chain starts with the producer and ends with the proverbial poor farmer but both are on the bottom of this chain. That doesn't mean that the farmer will be less poor. However, there's a chance that the importers and distributors will become richer. URO just cuts out few links out of this chain. It cuts out the commodity exchange full of the old money whales that trade urea back and forth without even knowing what the hell it is. It also cuts out the banks. When the CEX whales, having outlived their questionable parasitic usefulness, can go and fuck themselves no matter how pissed off they would get, the banks won’t give up so easily. They’ll scream of drugs, terrorism, and money laundering just to keep their fees. I see it as one of the biggest threats to URO and the free market.
8. To be continued…
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10. PROFIT!
BRAVO!!!POST OF THE MONTH!!! ALL YOU NEED IS BALLS AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF DISCIPLINE! I know you and I butted heads a lil bit, Crypto, but you have my respect, sir. Thank You. |
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