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541  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Does Faucet give real bitcoins every few hours? on: November 01, 2023, 07:52:57 AM
Yes, that's correct. They can't send you "real bitcoin" whenever you click the "claim" button because the fees for that would be higher than the amount they're sending, and you'd also need to deal with confirmation times. It's pointless with a custodial service anyway.

This is no different than the approach exchanges and casinos use. It's just a number in their database that keeps changing, and once you make a withdrawal request, that's when they send you the funds.

That sounds bad, so we also don't know how much bitcoin they have? including casinos and centralized exchanges also the same? the numbers written on our account are just fake bitcoins? can they use the bitcoins we send them for their needs? As long as there are no major withdrawals on the exchange, no one will know that our bitcoins there have been used. Could that be true?
542  Economy / Micro Earnings / Does Faucet give real bitcoins every few hours? on: November 01, 2023, 07:37:17 AM
I know this faucet longer than this forum, the name of the faucet is freebitxxx. It's best if we don't need to mention it clearly because that's not the issue I'm going to ask about.

So in a few hours the faucet will give us a very small amount of free bitcoins. The question is, is it real bitcoin? or is it just fake bitcoins and when we have met the minimum withdrawal limit, they just send real bitcoins to our withdrawal wallet address?

I think it's fake bitcoin, because on the faucet we only get 0.0000006 while the transaction fees are more expensive than that. So the small amount given by the faucet is fake bitcoin?
543  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: November 01, 2023, 07:21:29 AM
Btw tetapi jika harga bitcoin tetap dalam kondisi murah dalam rentang waktu yang lama, misal sampe 2 tahun apakah kemungkinan para miner ini akan bertahan gan? mengingat katanya biaya operasinal untuk mining itu cukup mahal.
Dari pengamatan ane terhadap pengalaman yang sudah-sudah, biasanya mereka akan stop mining. Namun tetap, masih ada miner besar yang melanjutkan aktifitas mining mereka, karena mungkin cukup worth, apa lagi ada beberapa miner besar yang tinggal dan hidup di kota yang cost listriknya rendah sehingga walau tidak begitu profit, tapi cukuplah untuk hidup dan sebagian BTC pasti mereka hold untuk beberapa tahun ke depan menjelasng halving berikutnya (2028)

Jadi biaya listrik sangat signifikan ya gan terhadap menghasilan para minner? Adakah negara yang memang bener-bener memiliki biaya listrik yang murah? Kalo misal semua miner ga lagi mining gara-gara harga btc terlalu murah sehingga para miner merugi maka bitcoin bisa down kan gan?

Ane jadi penasaran seberapa banyak yang bisa di hasilkan dalam sehari atau sebulan jika melakukan mining. Apa disini ada thread yang menjelaskan hal itu gan? ane cari-cari ga ketemu2
ya ente hitung sendiri aja, gampang kok, kalau tiap 10 menit menghasilkan 1 block (6.25 BTC), dalam 1 hari (24 jam, dijadikan menit lalu dibagi dengan angka 10 menit), kalau untuk sebulan ya x 30 hari dengan dihitung per-satuan menit.

Maksudnya kalo kita punya komputer miner gan, kira-kira penghasilan harian atu bulanannya itu nyampe berapa? Bukan hitung-hitungan secara global,  ane liat harga miner untuk btc juga muahal. Terus kalo mining yang pake GPU, itu bener-bener ga perlu miner yang khusus untuk btc? hanya komputer biasa gitu gan? (eh tapi sorry gan, keknya ane melenceng terlalu jauh dari topik)
544  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Politik Dinasti dan Nepotisme on: October 31, 2023, 06:28:31 PM
Ane kaget dengan model koalisi hari ini gan, Pertama ane kaget anis bisa berpasangan sama cak imin, padahal anis sebelumnya reprentasi dari PKS yang cukup bersitegang dengan PKB. Kemudian prabowo tiba-tiba berpasangan dengan gibran, dan adanya konflik antara PDIP dengan Jokowi. Wah bakal rame ini keknya pemilu depan dan masih sulit di prediksi karena tidak ada paslon yang memiliki elektabilitas paling menonjol. Viks si pasti 2 putaran pilpress

Untuk kasus gibran, jujur saya kaget juga gan bisa tiba-tiba ada peninjauan ulang undang-undang, kemudian di setujui dan langsung berpasangan dengan prabowo, sebelum itu juga kaesang mendadak jadi ketum partai. Seperti jokowi sudah memetakan ini jauh jauh hari. Ane gak nyangka aja kalo jokowi bakal sejauh ini dalam merencanakan, karena dari awal tidak terbaca sama sekali. Dan ane pikir mungkin itu kehebatan politik jokowi yang diam diam das des langsung jadi tanpa perlu dibuat heboh di awal.

Terkait politik dinasti, ane pikir pasti ada lah pengaruh jokowi didalamnya, meskipun ane ga punya bukti apapun hanya pandangan ane pribadi
Awalnya ane juga kaget gan ,benar seperti yang agan bilang itu diatas. Saya rasa rakyak di bawah juga merasakan hal yang sama ada keanehan di politik kita ini sedangkan para politisi-politisi itu pikirnya "ah cuman sebentar nanti juga dingin lagi" . Memang benar menurut saya juga ini akan rame sebentar saja kalau tidak ada yang menggugat. Cuman ini akan menjadi catatan sejarah yang tidak akan pernah hilang .

Ho'oh gan, Bahkan belum lama ini ane ada pertemuan sama anggota dewan dari PKB, katanya dia sendiri juga kaget kalo koalisi akan menjadi seperti sekarang. Katanya ini adalah manuver dadakan karena ga ada yang kepikiran juga kalo anis bakalan berpasangan sama cak imin. Di masarakat bawah tentu pada kaget gan karena koalisi ini. Atau mungkin cak imin udah tau kalau prabowo bakal ambil gibran jadi langsung melakukan manuver

Jika prabowo dan gibran menang maka kemungkinan akan dingin, tetapi kalo yang jadi ganjar bisa jadi malah anget lagi karena perseteruan PDIP dengan jokowi sehingga kasus aturan umur dalam pemilu bisa di ungkit kembali atau di gugat lagi agar kembali ke peraturan sebelumnya. Ah, bagaimanapun sejarah akan ditulis oleh pemenang gan, kita mah cuma penonton, sukur dapet amplop kalo kaga ya udah nasibnya  Grin
545  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am open to learning new things as a beginner on: October 31, 2023, 06:20:19 PM
Hi bitcointalk members, it is a pleasure to join this great forum of Bitcoin. I was introduced to this forum recently when I showed interest in Bitcoin. I was told I will get hand full of information about it here. I have been going through learnmeabitcoin.com which I came across online for some days now. Now I want to start interacting here as well as I am learning more about Bitcoin. I want your guidance as senior members in the forum here. Thanks.

Welcome to the forums. If someone introduces you to join this forum, you must have been told many things by him.

This is a discussion forum, so all you need to do is discuss. You can ask or answer other people's questions. We share thoughts and ideas here, although sometimes we also share nonsensical nonsense
546  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Politik Dinasti dan Nepotisme on: October 30, 2023, 11:52:31 PM
Ane kaget dengan model koalisi hari ini gan, Pertama ane kaget anis bisa berpasangan sama cak imin, padahal anis sebelumnya reprentasi dari PKS yang cukup bersitegang dengan PKB. Kemudian prabowo tiba-tiba berpasangan dengan gibran, dan adanya konflik antara PDIP dengan Jokowi. Wah bakal rame ini keknya pemilu depan dan masih sulit di prediksi karena tidak ada paslon yang memiliki elektabilitas paling menonjol. Viks si pasti 2 putaran pilpress

Untuk kasus gibran, jujur saya kaget juga gan bisa tiba-tiba ada peninjauan ulang undang-undang, kemudian di setujui dan langsung berpasangan dengan prabowo, sebelum itu juga kaesang mendadak jadi ketum partai. Seperti jokowi sudah memetakan ini jauh jauh hari. Ane gak nyangka aja kalo jokowi bakal sejauh ini dalam merencanakan, karena dari awal tidak terbaca sama sekali. Dan ane pikir mungkin itu kehebatan politik jokowi yang diam diam das des langsung jadi tanpa perlu dibuat heboh di awal.

Terkait politik dinasti, ane pikir pasti ada lah pengaruh jokowi didalamnya, meskipun ane ga punya bukti apapun hanya pandangan ane pribadi
547  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Saya seorang pemula yang mencari pedoman di sini. on: October 30, 2023, 11:41:49 PM
Halo senior.
 Saya lestari. Saya baru disini. Saya baru saja sembuh dari penyakit, jika tidak saya akan banyak aktif sejak saya mendaftar tetapi saya harus menjaga kesehatan saya terlebih dahulu agar saya baik-baik saja sebelum saya mulai memposting di sini. Saya harap saya disambut. Saya ingin mendapat pencerahan lebih banyak tentang platform ini dan Bitcoin sehingga saya bisa mendapatkan lebih banyak pengetahuan. Terima kasih atas cintamu.

Selamat datang, Sepertinya ini postingan agan yang pertama dan belum membuat postingan lagi setelahnya. Ane pikir itu langkah yang bagus karena agan langsung mengetahui cara membuat post, jujur pas pertama gabung ane bingung gimana cara buat postingan. Jika agan pengen belajar tentang bitcoin agan bisa baca-baca forum, ane liat banyak diskusi yang membahas tentang bictoin. Jika agan ingin belajar tentang wallet, ada agan @husna QA yang ane pikir sangat jago kalo urusan wallet. Jika agan pengen mendapatkan penghasilan tambahan juga bisa, Forum ini bener-bener komplit gan. Diskusinya juga sangat aktif..
548  Other / Meta / Re: Solution to account seller? I think on: October 30, 2023, 03:38:22 PM
Are you kidding me? If you do that then your account will be tagged. One way to prevent buying and selling accounts is to prohibit it, or legalize it with a high minimum price. Or use KYC so that 1 person only has 1 account. However, this forum is an reedom forum by limiting it, we destroy freedom in this forum, the current system is good and nothing needs to be changed.
If you actually use your common sense, you can probably do it anonymously and create another account to post your investigations and it's not like you're using it to gain fame or infamy in the forum, you want to do it so account buyers and sellers are discouraged from doing so. KYC is not going to be a thing here, if it were then the doxing tags would be useless and invalidated.

I didn't expect this to get this much attention, I will try to reply when I can. Even forgot that I started this topic lmao.

Yes maybe you can but I don't have much time to create alts and operate other accounts.

Of course you post will get attention because you are thinking of a solution to the forum's problem. However, I'm sure many senior members have thought about this before us and maybe what DT is doing is quite effective because I also didn't find another way because basically buying and selling accounts is not prohibited by the forum.
549  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Imagine life if there was know bitcointalk like this forum on: October 30, 2023, 01:40:06 PM
And the good thing is that through the forum most people were able to earn some money through Campaigns, so tell me what platform would have been more better than this forum?

I no so many persons has other major sources of income aside from this forum while some persons depends on the forum to earn a living, so tell me if there was no forum like this how things would have been for you?, I love learning so I'm always here to learn so please share your knowledge and views.

Essentially you're asking about a signature campaign, right?

Of course I would be fine even if I didn't know this forum. There are lots of sites out there that can make money, if you have more skills I'm sure you can make more money than on this forum. If you like learning, maybe you can browse and look for other sites as another source of income if you are not busy in the real world.


Signature campaign is far less to what this forum has to offer us, this is a citadel of bitcoin knowledge itself because it's the only approved forum whereby you can get the best information needed about bitcoin, you learn and get varieties of other opportunities here because bitcoin is fast increasing in adoption, it's a platform that you can meet people, discuss about bitcoin, business and other things of life, then if you participate in a signature campaign as well, you're a step higher as well because you will be happy to earn something in doing so.

I'm not saying that the revenue from signature campaigns is small. For me, who has a small rank, it's not too much, but it's not bad either. For members who can earn $200 per week, that's a large amount in my opinion.

Yes, that's right, here we can learn and discuss. However, without a signature campaign, I'm not sure this forum will remain busy, maybe some members will stop posting or only be online occasionally
550  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Imagine life if there was know bitcointalk like this forum on: October 30, 2023, 01:15:14 PM
And the good thing is that through the forum most people were able to earn some money through Campaigns, so tell me what platform would have been more better than this forum?

I no so many persons has other major sources of income aside from this forum while some persons depends on the forum to earn a living, so tell me if there was no forum like this how things would have been for you?, I love learning so I'm always here to learn so please share your knowledge and views.

Essentially you're asking about a signature campaign, right?

Of course I would be fine even if I didn't know this forum. There are lots of sites out there that can make money, if you have more skills I'm sure you can make more money than on this forum. If you like learning, maybe you can browse and look for other sites as another source of income if you are not busy in the real world.
551  Economy / Economics / Re: choose an option on: October 30, 2023, 12:57:11 PM
which would you prefer to receive?
a. $480,000 lottery win as payments spread over 96months(8 years) of $5k a month

I'll choose the first one, point a. I thought I'd take it easy for 8 years because my wallet would always be filled with $5k. I also thought about selecting points b and c. But if I take $480k straight away, there's a chance it will run out in 2 - 3 years. If I choose point c, I will most likely be anxious if the price of bitcoin drops sharply and I will not be able to sleep well. Option a is more convenient for me
552  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: October 30, 2023, 03:51:08 AM
Oke dicatat, trims gan. Ane juga baca disini kalo katanya halving akan terjadi setiap 210 block dan akan terus berlanjut hingga habis tak bersisa.

Tapi ane merasa dalam sisi yang lain juga ada bahayanya gan. Sekarang kalo pasca halving ternyata harga engga naik maka penambang akan rugi bandar kan gan? meskipun kalo ane baca sejarah setiap pasca halving pasti ada kenaikan harga signifikan. Mungkin histori ke gini juga ngaruh ke mainset banyak orang ya jadi moment ketika mau halving banyak orang yang hold bitcoin sehingga harga naik tajam (permintaan meningkat)
Bukan 210 block, namun halving terjadi setiap 210.000 Block baru ditemukan (terjadi setiap 4 tahun sekali dengan asumsi 1 block tercipta setiap 10 menit). Semisal pasca halving harga tidak mengalami peningkatan, saya kira mayoritas miner akan tetap melakukan hodl, karena dengan cost operasional yang mahal mereka akan mengalami kerugian jika memaksa untuk menjual hasil mining mereka.

Oya ane lupa menambahkan K di belakang 210, trims sudah mengoreksinya gan. Btw tetapi jika harga bitcoin tetap dalam kondisi murah dalam rentang waktu yang lama, misal sampe 2 tahun apakah kemungkinan para miner ini akan bertahan gan? mengingat katanya biaya operasinal untuk mining itu cukup mahal.

Ane jadi penasaran seberapa banyak yang bisa di hasilkan dalam sehari atau sebulan jika melakukan mining. Apa disini ada thread yang menjelaskan hal itu gan? ane cari-cari ga ketemu2
553  Economy / Reputation / Re: Advertised services and participants in a paid sig campaign on: October 30, 2023, 02:25:03 AM
But is that surprising coming from someone who posts this 3 weeks after joining up a BTC mixer's sig campaign?

I have been following the sinbad avatar campaign for 3 weeks. Today I just understood that in some cases, hiding bitcoin transactions may be necessary to protect our privacy from the public or for certain purposes. I have never had experience using a mixer, and if I may ask. How much does it cost for one mix? Service fees and network fees. Maybe I want to try it

Sorry, maybe my question is very basic, but I have no experience with mixers and I don't have much bitcoin so I thought I'd find out the actual costs involved. I hope those who answer have experience using a Sinbad mixer

This falls squarely within the scope of the questions posed by 1miau: is a user who doesn't have the slightest idea about a product, credible to promote it?

In any case, it's up to the manager to make his  own decisions. But I'm not sure that in these cases, this will be beneficial to the community in terms of credibility.

You mean I can't question that? and I can't join the mixer campaign?

You can suggest to the campaign manager to remove me or suggest to the campaign manager if they are looking for campaign participants then ask them whether they have knowledge about the service or not.

Emmmhhh.. But it doesn't seem like that's your goal, you're just looking down on me.. It doesn't matter, I'm not a good poster  Wink

Maybe you think that if BenCoodie doesn't agree with gambling then it's better if he doesn't join the gambling campaign and if he has joined the gambling campaign then don't express his disagreement with gambling openly, is that like that?
The boldened part.
Either he hates gambling and opposes it or he doesn't hate it and doesn't oppose it, then, he's eligible to wear a paid signature. No one is forced here to participate in signature campaigns of services, they don't like.
Opposing gambling and getting paid the same time for advertising gambling via signature isn't credible at all.

In the end, none of us can decide, only the campaign manager himself can decide. Maybe the longer this thread exists will only make BenCodie's reputation questionable, if that is one of your goals, then you can open this thread longer.
554  Other / Meta / Re: Investigation and action required. Unusual forum moderation. on: October 29, 2023, 09:04:40 AM
Quite a long post, but I took a little time to read the OP's post. It seems I don't have the capacity to express an opinion here. But I would like to have a little opinion.

For advanced identification, it sounds good. But if the moderator has to see the PM and publish it to the forum then I think that's too deep and the PM is someone's secret. Everyone has secrets and I don't think it's ethical to share anything in PM with the public
555  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to Make a Quality Posts in the Forum on: October 29, 2023, 08:53:19 AM
It seems like your post is too long, there's only a little content. Mostly descriptive in my opinion, but this post is worth a read. The point is:

1# The quality of the post depends on what is in the account owner's head
2# Write comments or opinions on boards that interest you
3# Don't create spam because it is useless and can get your account banned
4# Don't try to cheat by plagiarizing or using AI
556  Economy / Reputation / Re: Advertised services and participants in a paid sig campaign on: October 29, 2023, 01:56:16 AM
~cut~

Oh no, your explanation makes perfect sense to me. Yes guys, I think everyone has a negative view towards gambling but gambling is still a fun activity and I agree with you that everyone can choose to gamble or not.

Maybe you think that if BenCoodie doesn't agree with gambling then it's better if he doesn't join the gambling campaign and if he has joined the gambling campaign then don't express his disagreement with gambling openly, is that like that?

This PytagoraZ account is an attention-seeker that has has been getting involved the Reputation board from almost day one of it being created, this is clearly an alt-account who wanted nothing more than to rank up as fast as possible. He has managed to enrol on a signature campaign therefore he will not want to sabotage his account now but eventually the guard will slip. I would advise members to not engage with either BenCodie or PytagoraZ on an intellectual angle as they are incapable of debating.

So are you still talking about bullshit accusations without evidence? It doesn't matter, I already knew that you were that kind of person from the last time I argued with you. Of course this is a freedom forum, you can accuse me of being an alt, a liar, a cheater, a gay, a lesbian, a drug dealer and anything else that comes to your mind. Don't worry, I won't question whether you have proof or not. Because evidence is not important to you

Yes, you can also tell other people not to argue with me, because often you are the one who disappears when I argue with you Wink
557  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: October 29, 2023, 01:30:13 AM
Gan, halving ini emang ada jadwalnya apa gimana si gan kok bisa di prediksi? atau ada rules bahwa bitcoin akan halving jika sudah sampai blok sekian dan sekiat gitu? sory ane masih awam bgt kalo urusan ama bitcoin. Oya kalo udh halving emang ga rugi ya penambang kalo misalkan biasanya sebulan bisa dapet 1 brrti setelah halving cuman dapet setengah kan?
Jadwal halving itu tidak pasti kapan tepat untuk tanggal dan bulannya, namun yang pasti tahun 2024, dan tepat pastinya berada di block 840,000. Yang jelas penambang itu akan mengalami pemotongan reward dari sebelumnya 6.25 BTC menjadi 3.125 BTC, kalau ente lihat secara sekilasnya sudah pasti rugi dong, tapi karena demand (biasanya) meningkat, artinya tidak rugi kalau harga BTC mengikuti atau sejalan dengan harga fiat, atau naik. kalau pengalaman yang sudah-sudah, malah makin hari, penambang akan makin banyak, dan halving ini merupakan sebuah momen spesial yang biasanya ditunggu-tunggu oleh para bitcoiner di seluruh dunia.

Oke dicatat, trims gan. Ane juga baca disini kalo katanya halving akan terjadi setiap 210 block dan akan terus berlanjut hingga habis tak bersisa.

Tapi ane merasa dalam sisi yang lain juga ada bahayanya gan. Sekarang kalo pasca halving ternyata harga engga naik maka penambang akan rugi bandar kan gan? meskipun kalo ane baca sejarah setiap pasca halving pasti ada kenaikan harga signifikan. Mungkin histori ke gini juga ngaruh ke mainset banyak orang ya jadi moment ketika mau halving banyak orang yang hold bitcoin sehingga harga naik tajam (permintaan meningkat)
558  Economy / Reputation / Re: Advertised services and participants in a paid sig campaign on: October 28, 2023, 03:37:04 PM
The solution for BenCodie: Don't join gambling signature campaigns, if you really hate gambling and think it's harmful. Otherwise, you would inevitably contribute to be "harmful" as well by wearing that paid signature.  Cheesy
Only join a campaign, where you agree with the advertised service.
And that's exactly, what CryptopreneurBrainboss pointed out in his topic.  Smiley


Maybe you have free time so you have time to write something like this. I think benCodie is entitled to whatever his stance and beliefs are.
No one here in this topic denied this.
In fact, we stated multiple times that BenCodie can have whatever opinion he wants. The issue of the whole topic is that BenCodie advertises a gambling service in his signature to get a nice amount of BTC for free, while he believes gambling would be "unethical" and "destroying lives". We have to be honest here: that's 100% hypocrisy.

To be honest I have the same view towards gambling. Gambling has a high probability of destroying a person's finances. I'm not against gambling, sometimes I gamble too, I like blackjack and sports betting. Although I am not an active gambler. But BenCodie should have been prepared for the consequences of being kicked out of the campaign if he made a statement like that, but if the campaign manager doesn't mind it, why should we bother?

We do not need to interfere with his principles and impose our principles on him.
No one imposed any principles on BenCodie.
Is it not allowed to talk about certain issues on Bitcointalk now?
Is it fair, that BenCodie censored my opinion in his self-moderated topic?
He can do whatever he wants but he should not be surprised if there's criticism for his clownery.

Of course you are free to say anything here, as far as I know this forum gives freedom to anyone. But I think the issue of BenCodie's campaign and statements can only be resolved between him and the campaign manager

Yes, you can complain and create a thread about your comment being deleted. If you feel your comment has had a significant impact and Bencodie is trying to cover it up, then he feels it is necessary to delete your comment.


To be honest, I'm a little embarrassed to argue with you, because you are a high-level member
559  Other / Meta / Re: Plagiarism vs AI Posting on: October 28, 2023, 02:59:22 PM
There's more to using of AI in generating post, why then can't a user of such never indicated the source of their contents to be AI generated, if you're giving out an idea, then let it be strictly on your personal own point of view, if you're collecting other ideas from different sources and yet claiming they are yours without you indicating their sources means you're not to be trusted with whatever you offer since they are not generic from you.
First, before we look into why can't a user indicate that his or her content is Ai generated, we will have to look at why some users will want to use a CHATGPT in the first place.

Mostly, those who use it, use it to find an answer to a (maybe) complicated question which they believe could be of good knowledge or act as a good information to other forum users, who might in turn want to appreciate the user by giving merit.

So considering the above, we know that those who use CHATGPT, just as the op have said, use it to make them appear more intelligent and knowledgeable than they original are, and this they do, all for nothing but to earn more merit in the forum, so if earning merits be the goal, indicating the real source of the information they are sharing might just be a goal damager for them, since the real essence of using Ai in the first place, which is to appear more intelligent than they truly are, is completely defeated.

Going back to the op, I think since the forum already have a rule against plagiarism, same rule can apply to those who use CHATGPT to make post, or better still, let the forum allow campaign managers to discipline those users involved in such an act.

Honestly, I don't know the motive why someone would use AI to create a post. Do they deliberately do this with the aim of creating high-quality content to gain merit? I don't think it's difficult if just comment, I wonder why there are people who like to use AI. Even though my post is not good, at least my writing represents what is in my head
560  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: October 28, 2023, 02:52:34 PM
Yang ingin ane komentarin cuma WTF, setelah ane jual btc ane di harga $27k karena kebutuhan mendadak keluarga, dari hasil beli di harga $33k dan $28k. Jadi pengalaman pertama ane hold bitcoin adalah rugi. Sekian dan terimakasih
Kebutuhan keluarga lebih penting gan, BTC bisa di beli lagi harga berapapun semisal harga sekarang tinggi mungkin di tahun 2024 bisa lebih tinggi dari sekarang, tetap masih ada kesempatan untuk beli sambil akumulasi dan saya rasa bullish sesungguh nya perkiraan saya adalah November tahun depan. Cheesy

Iya si, cuma enek aja gitu, setelah nunggu sekitar 3 bulan. Giliran udah diual malahan naik setelah beberapa minggu. Ga banyak si kerugiannya karena cuma hold dikit aja. Mungkin mulai sekarang mah kaga usah beli, tinggal simpan aja hasil dari gajian sig,... wkwkwk

Di Tahun 2023 saya rasa tidak sampai harga 1 miliar, 2024 mungkin saja
Kalau mencapai 1 Milyar per 1 Bitcoin, kita akan mengatakan wow secara berjamaah dan jangan lupa sujud syukur karena kita yang memegang Bitcoin tidak dalam jumlah utuh, hanya dalam jumlah no koma nol sudah bisa sangat senang seperti mendapatkan jackpot. Smiley

2024 juga masih belum memungkinkan. 2025 bisa jadi. Tapi menurut kalender hitungan halving tidak lama lagi akan sampai. Tidak berani ane sebutkan berapa harga per 1 Bitcoin. Minimal ATH sebelumnya atau ATH baru bisa terwujud.
Menjelang masuk tahun 2024, kita harap harga dukungan seperti saat ini bisa bertahan.

Udah deket kah gan untuk sampe harga 1 btc 1 milyar? punya 0,1 aja udah bisa kebeli mobil noh kalo harga btc 1 milyar. Tapi ngumpulin mpe 0,1 juga lama yak....  Grin
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