Nothing impossible. But, come on this is 2018, what you expect with buy mobile phones and mine something with that?


Except you have to plan to change a mobile phone to something, like the article above, look like cool, lol.
That article means nothing, no technical data, even the contents of the article didn't show anything about mining.

Damn, just got my popcorn ripe.
Where are the people? So, this is the end of this series? Thanks everyone, you all very cheer up this day. 

You made BitBustah back to smile after failed in an exam today, you did good. 

Personally, I like what you write above, educative.
A bit thing that bothers me only the title, it's too provocative and rough I think. Probably the title should be softer.  

So, Capital Recovery limited to 100%. Means, when money-out equal to money-in it's called Capital Recovery. When money-in didn't reach 100% of money-out both term can use, Capital Recovery if we count from below (0%) and ROI if we count from above (100%), but this ROI still minus. But, if money-in more than money-out, we only can call it ROI, right?

But whatever it is, as long as we can understand each other, it is no big deal. Honestly, this is helpful. 

You can install two different drivers for both cards. First of all, go to drive C:\. Find AMD folder, then open your RX 570 driver folder (depend on which driver type you are using). You will find a folder named "Package," save it to the safe place.

since you are using Blockchain driver the folder tree would be:
C:\AMD\Win10-64Bit-Crimson-ReLive-Beta-Blockchain-Workloads-Aug23\Packages


That's the right move. Just need some other action to complete.
Open Device Manager, then find your RX 570, in Display Adapter section, and right click then updates manually. Find Packages\Drivers\Display\WT6A_INF\... in the folder that you save before. You will find inf file, then chose it. The system will be updating a driver for RX 570. If your 570 has been modded, don't forget to bypass driver signature using atikmdag patcher.
Restart your system....

a bit confused by this explanation.
I'm so curious about what you said, then tried to Google it, and the result is:


Source: https://www.tutorialspoint.com/data_mining/index.htm

Nobody knows when.
This is a few things that may cause GPUs prices go down.
- Demand for GUPs itself.
- Devices regeneration, The new version launched, old version would be down priced if demand for old version is low (back to point one).
- Crypto market sluggish (mining context, since gamers more less than miners). But no guarantee, like this day.
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And many more. 

Point taken! (personal view, same as me).

We learn nothing with one simple click, right. But we can't deny, that's the main function of technology, to make our life easier.

That's called resource efficiency, a GUI such as NiceHash Miner requires more system resources because of the elements that require loadings, such as icons and fonts, they take up additional system resources.


Honestly, I learn from that process, how to pick the driver, how to modified bios, etc. Then now I know how to facing when I get into trouble with my rig.

But yes, one click for everything would help us, reduce much time, reduce headaches on our head, lol. Go for Innovations.

Of course, doing what you want to learn, Learning by doing is the best way. Read some specific tutorial referring to what will you do that you can find anywhere (Youtube, Forum or whatever). When you get in trouble, you can ask here, and for sure we will help you.

Glad to hear you fixed it. 

You did a right thing with updating this thread, so another member with the same problem would be more accessible to find a solution, may you need to add your way to fix your problem on your OP.

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Pertama ini tentang Mining Altcoins bukan Mining Bitcoin, dunia mining menjadi boom....boomm setelah harga bitcoin merangkat naik dari harga 8 juta hingga pernah mencapai 200 juta lebih. dampak nya tiap orang mencari apa itu bitcoin? , Bagaimana cara menghasilkan bitcoin?, alat apa yang di gunakan oleh bitcoin? tapi apa yang didapat setelah mereka tahu bahwa untuk mendapatkan bitcoin tidak semudah mereka mendapatkan informasi tentang bitcoin itu sendiri alhasil mereka mencari informasi alternatif bagaimana mendapatkan bitcoin tanpa harus membeli peralatan bitcoin yang dirasa mahal. diluar hal tersebut munculah alternatif bahwa untuk mendapatkan bitcoin dengan cara menambang alternative coin atau yang biasa disebut Altcoins.

Singkat cerita, mereka pun tahu bahwa untuk menambang altcoins bisa digunakan alat di luar ASIC akan tetapi tidak semua orang tahu bahwa alat untuk menambang pun ada specifikasi tertentu. yang pada akhirnya banyak menyarankan pake CPU tanpa VGA, pake Handphone dan pake Laptop. Secara technical ya.. itu bisa digunakan tapi jika memang tujuan mencari keuntungan jangan pernah menggunakan Alat-alat tersebut. Mari kita Analisa kenapa alat tersebut tidak disarankan untuk digunakan

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CPU tanpa VGA, Laptop, dan handphone, saya pribadi tidak menyarankan untuk digunakan untuk mining coin Altcoins apapun. bagaimana pun itu spec jangan pernah dipake untuk mining. Ya tentu saya tahu coin mana dan bagaimana caranya mining Altcoins hanya pake CPU tanpa VGA, dan laptop.

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- Pertama saya menulis tentang hal ini karena saya sengaja menggunakan alat tersebut untuk mining, dengan tujuan untuk pengetahuan dan pengalaman pribadi.

- Kedua. kenapa ada member yang seolah-olah membenarkan dan menyarankan untuk menggunakan CPU tanpa VGA, Laptop, dan Handphone bisa dilakukan untuk mining altcoins. Meskipun saya ragu bahwa yang menyarankan itu pernah mempraktek-an apa yang disarankan atau hanya sekedar searching kemudian di share..

Kita Analisa :

1. Ketiga alat tersebut tidak di desain untuk proses yang berlangsung terus menerus dan memakan banyak resource pada processor

2. Mining menghasilkan Panas terhadap hardware tersebut karena pada proses mining mengharuskan alat tersebut (CPU) berjalan 24/7.  

3. Pada proses mining ketika suatu alat berusaha memecahkan block dari suatu coins, maka alat tersebut sangat bergantung pada kecepatan processor dalam meng-eksekusi / menge-nerate code. kecepatan ini biasa di sebut dengan hashrate.

Inilah alasannya kenapa tidak disarankan menggunakan Alat tersebut untuk digunakan mining.

1. CPU, Laptop dan handphone tidak memungkinkan untuk mengeluarkan panas yang berlebihan akibat proses mining meskipun Casing tersebut dibuka (untuk CPU tanpa VGA), bagaimana dengan Processor, RAM, dan part lainnya dalam mengeluarkan panas.

2. Sebagian besar PSU yang digunakan CPU bukan 80+, jikalau ada yang Customize itu pun rated-nya bronze. PSU untuk mining mengharuskan berjalan 24/7 dan memiliki nilai efeciency yang tinggi. meskipun sebenarnya PSU rated gold,platinum tidak didesain untuk berjalan 24/7.

3. Batterai Laptop tidak akan kuat untuk terus menerus berjalan apalagi dengan baterai Handphone, maka dipastikan akan drop dan cepat rusak.

4. Memiliki hashrate yang kecil, hal ini akan berdampak pada lamanya mendapatkan coin, dan tentu saja berdampak pada pendapatan anda. sedangkan ketiga alat tersebut harus berjalan terus-menerus tentu saja tagihan listrik membengkak. kesimpulannya apa yang kamu dapatkan tidak sesuai dengan tagihan listrik dan bisa terjadi CPU anda rusak

Note: untuk handphone tidak dihitung karena sudah pasti sangat kecil dibanding dua alat tersebut

Kita ambil contoh CPU/laptop yang memiliki processor i7

- i7 memiliki 6 cores

- 12 Threads

- Processor Base Frequency 3.70 GHz
                                          
Performance: 6 execute instruction per clock                                

untuk mengetahui performance VGA silakan lihat thread saya, agar tidak duplikasi menulis perbandingan 3 alat tersebut dengan VGA:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3069732.msg31624218#msg31624218
                                                  
Jika belum paham mari kita analogikan dengan penghasilan yang di dapat dari processor tersebut :

Saya asumsikan bahwa CPU tersebut menambang di coin ETN.

harga coin ETN saat saya menulis post ini : $0.044771 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/electroneum/)

anggap saja anda menghasilkan 2 ETN/ hari

- 1 Minggu: 2 x 7 = 14 ETN , 14 x 0.044771 = $0.626794

- 1 bulan : 14 x 4 = 56 ETN x 0.044771 = $2.507176[/] anggap saja $3

- 1 Tahun: $3 x 12 = $36 konversi ke rupiah (anggap saja harga rupiah 15k) = Rp 540,000

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I didn't suggest you use Teamviewer, just trying to clarify what Mo20 said before, Mo20 suggesting you use Teamviewer without any output on both card, and I told you will get small screen because those cards will not produce the right resolution.

I suggest you use a dummy output (HDMI or whatever adapter) in one of your cards with a small Hahsrate. Adapter only, don't need to connect to monitor. Have you done what I suggested before?

May you mean AMD and NVIDIA.
Because of the space between the three socket PCIe 16x on that board far enough, you can add the three card directly to board without using Risers.


Yes, you can mix both AMD and NVIDIA on one board, for better mining process, use two different mining software to handle each type of cards. But not too easy to do it.

Advantage of putting the cards directly on the motherboard.
-You would be cutting some cost to buy a Risers.
-You will save PSU cable socket (SATA, MOLEX, 6PINS) for powering the Risers.

Disadvantages of putting the cards directly on the motherboard.
-Those cards will get in the way other PCIe (PCIe 1X) sockets near the card that plugged.
-Will heat faster, because of cards position close to other components on the mobo that the same produce a heat.

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1. Yang sudah di review baik yang sudah mendapatkan merit atau yang tidak mendapatkan merit tidak diperbolehkan ikut kembali dalam review-post ini. hal ini dilakukan untuk memberikan kesempatan kepada member lain.

2. Yang ingin berpartisipasi cukup ikuti format/contoh dibawah ini:

OverClock, and bios modification is a little bit different.

Bios Mod
Changing default bios condition to something that we want. After modified the bios, still we need to do a tune-up (Overclock, Underclock, Undervolt..etc) until we get stable setting using tuneup utility such as After Burner.

OverClock
Increasing clock rate from the default setting to the higher one, using tuneup utilities.

If your plan is to control your rig through Team Viewer, you need output on one of those cards (if you set as primary display), so the system will be working on the right resolution. If you didn't plug any output, you will get the small display and maybe dropping your hashrate (AMD cards issue).

Plug dummy output on a card with dropped hashrate.

Tips: just quote the point would you replying or asking, don't quote all of the posts.

dummy output means output display, didn't need to be connected to a monitor, HDMI adapter is enough.

We are both still exist here, that proved that we could survive. Would be a good reference for a new miner, that we can survive because we learn. Learning new thing and learn from the past.