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541  Local / India / Re: current bitcoin price drop result of Chinese exchanges on: March 10, 2017, 06:38:28 PM
They will soon allow those pending withdrawals to withdraw and the price will soon go down.
A lot is riding high on ETF decision. If it gets approved then be ready see the bitcoin price shoot to 2000$ to 3000$, irrespective of any one understanding significance of it. But big whales are moving(buying/selling) large bitcoin chunk too fast.  If it gets rejected then some correction is expected but bitcoin price would not plunge by huge margin. It would be relatively small/appropriate.
542  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining on: March 10, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
It is better to stay away from the cloud mining. Most of them are indeed scam. Those which are legit offer very low earning to invest. Those offering high return are probably scam.

543  Local / India / Re: Amit Bhardwaj/Kumar and a HashOcean clone called Gainbitcoin. on: March 10, 2017, 02:13:51 PM
Neither I visited ASOCHAM nor would have received any answers because that was not the platform. More importantly it is the investors who invested their money in gainbtc should do that.

Well the above note was general and not specific to you. Also just imagine you had invested your hard earned money of years and invested in this scheme and you not getting returns so will you be waiting for the right occasion or will ask him either return the money or give the status of it?
Not invested a penny in fraud. However I've seen this fraud flourished among colleagues and most of them have taken personal loan just to invest in this scheme. Now these people have lost their mind/money when these new changes. I've been asked to invest in gainbtc however after reading this thread I started investing it from my side. I found more evidence of fraud nature of it.  Sad part is there are people who are still joining it.

You indeed have vivid imagination! But that is in wrong direction.
544  Local / India / Re: Amit Bhardwaj/Kumar and a HashOcean clone called Gainbitcoin. on: March 10, 2017, 10:57:52 AM
Neither I visited ASOCHAM nor would have received any answers because that was not the platform. More importantly it is the investors who invested their money in gainbtc should do that.
545  Local / Alt Coins (India) / Re: Is there any exchange or wallet for dash or dogecoin in India? on: March 10, 2017, 06:32:27 AM
Hello,

Is there any well known India-based wallet and exchange for purchasing Dashcoin and dogecoin ?  Basically I'm looking for India based exchange which deals in altcoin?

Most of the trusted exchange and wallet available for dash and dogecoin are international.
I am afraid there is no India based exchange that deals with Altcoin.
I was also looking to buy ETH few days back and since I wanted to pay with netbanking,I searched for any Indian exchange that sell Altcoin but in vain.

we are india guys use dc-ex.com for safe wallet full automatic. You can store BTC, LTC, DASH, YASH, PMUSD, Payeer, Advcash, Okpay, Payeer

Quite unclear as what you are trying to say. Are you from India who use this site or Is this Indian site dc-ex.com? And what are the fees for per transaction ?

Also is there any other site available for altcoins?
He just trying to promote dc-ex by spamming and making off topic reply.


I checked the site and it seems his reply wasn't a spam.  The site is peer to peer exchange for digital coin. Some observations :
* There is no mention about who is behind this site. The leaders are not mentioned.
* HQ is located at Tamilnadu
* nothing much to add about the site.
* site Looks more amateurish than professional.
546  Economy / Economics / Re: What will be our new world currency? on: March 10, 2017, 06:22:07 AM
US Dollars will remain global currency in coming years as well. There is no chance of any country allowing digital cryptocurrency to become global currency.
547  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: March 10, 2017, 05:56:35 AM
100% sure that it wont be used by more than 20% of world. Current bitcoin technology is not scalable to the world or country level market.
548  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: March 09, 2017, 01:45:05 PM
One great thing about digital currencies is that it's easy to switch between them. There can be (and, to some extent, already is) competition between digital currencies. If Bitcoin becomes too compromised, people can move to other digital currencies.


Digital currencies have some acceptance just because of bitcoin is successful so far. Others have tried and not succeeded that much. If in future other cryptocurrencies scale up to the expectation then one could switch between them otherwise sticking to bitcoin is safe.
549  Economy / Speculation / Re: It going to hurt..! drop back under 1000$ on: March 09, 2017, 01:34:20 PM
Lets do it again ! 200 USD here we come!
It is not going to happen soon and hopefully later as well.  There is much more awareness and people involvement in bitcoin. 
550  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Price drops after ETF not approved, it's because people are Dumb on: March 09, 2017, 01:24:39 PM
HODL is good policy. However price wont drop after ETF rejection. It is definitely going to get some correction.  Another cause we need to  check is Chinese market situation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-08/china-s-top-bitcoin-exchanges-extend-suspension-of-withdrawals

Who said it would be rejected?

ETF has been rejected twice/thrice earlier. And that too based on security issue and not on price fluctuation. So there is chance of rejection this time as there is chance of approval as well.  Approval will help in gaining rise.
551  Local / India / Re: Amit Bhardwaj/Kumar and a HashOcean clone called Gainbitcoin. on: March 09, 2017, 01:16:51 PM
For those who were making point on regular payouts from gainbitcoin, check the reviews posted on the coinbank app's playstore/appstore .  

[https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.coinbank.wallet&hl=en

Some handpicked some reviews which narrating ongoing issues in gainbtc model.
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Roshan G
*****PLEASE TEAM OPPOSE THE MANUAL WITHDRAWAL PROCESS***** This is something we do not want as we have invested our BTC with multiple accounts and now OUR BTC STUCK WITH GB. Other Programs do auto withdrawal only and with the wallet they want. ONLY GB IS FORCING FOR COIN BANK WHICH TAKES HELL LOT OF TIME FOR TRANSACTION TO BE COMPLETE. THERE IS NO PHONE NUMBER AVAILABLE OF SUPPORT TEAM AND WE HAVE TO WAIT WAIT AND WAIT FOR TRANSACTION TO BE CONFIRMED HERE. I am so pissed with this app as other mention with the manual withdraw my money stuck and now I can not withdraw until it reaches 0.05 This is really fooling around with coinbank. I am more than happy with zebpay or Unocoin. This app takes too much time to transfer our BTC. I really feel this is the way to fool us around.

Rajesh M:
⚠Attention⚠ Team Please Merit Aap Sab Se Request Hai Ki , Menual Withdrew Ka Puri Tarah Virodh Kare, Air Sab log Iska Prachaar Kare Aur Help & Support Mai Saare Log Ticket Raise Kare Rojana Kare Takki Amit Bhardwaj Ke Samne Yeah Baat Aaye Aur Yeh Menual Option Ko hatha de


Shekhar S
If you loose your backup phrase or misspellings the same. You will lost your valuable Bitcoin. No system for get back of your Bitcoin. My friend lost 1.5 BTC

DHARMESH G
very week point in this app....................... 1 No way to raise a ticket ? 2 no way to call support team ? Need help asap 3 no way to bitcoin cash received in bank account we all r depend to zebpay wallet.... bit coin pending to conform for sending in zebpay wallet from your side last 1 day very long time continue.....?
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Just check first review from Roshan G
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Roshan G
*****PLEASE TEAM OPPOSE THE MANUAL WITHDRAWAL PROCESS***** This is something we do not want as we have invested our BTC with multiple accounts and now OUR BTC STUCK WITH GB. Other Programs do auto withdrawal only and with the wallet they want.
- Payment system has been changed. That too without any intimation to users. This has created rage, frustration among the investors.
- Now these investors who have been receiving payouts regularly till now, have to get the payouts by manually requesting the payouts. This is particularly affecting majority of users who have created dummy account or farmed account of and invested 0.1 btc contracts from gainbtc.
- if any one here who has invested in gainbtc would have better idea about ongoing chaos in gainbtc then they could contribute here.

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ONLY GB IS FORCING FOR COIN BANK WHICH TAKES HELL LOT OF TIME FOR TRANSACTION TO BE COMPLETE. THERE IS NO PHONE NUMBER AVAILABLE OF SUPPORT TEAM AND WE HAVE TO WAIT WAIT AND WAIT FOR TRANSACTION TO BE CONFIRMED HERE. I am so pissed with this app as other mention with the manual withdraw my money stuck and now I can not withdraw until it reaches 0.05 This is really fooling around with coinbank. I am more than happy with zebpay or Unocoin. This app takes too much time to transfer our BTC. I really feel this is the way to fool us around.
- above mention major points 1) forceful use of coinbank app for receive and withdrawal   2) New condition put on withdrawal Limit
1. Forced investor to use the coinbank app for withdrawal or receipt. There are increasing cases of payments and transactions getting delayed over 2 days.
2. New condition on withdrawal limit:   It seems that Mr. AB has implemented limit on withdrawal. That is minimum amount one could withdraw is 0,05. This mean those who have account-farm or accounts with contract worth 0.1btc will get 0.01 per month. This mean these contracts will have to wait for five and half or six months for withdrawal.
Just imagine the consequences of this. Those with 100 or 200 contracts worth 0.1btc will  be screwed because 100 contracts worth 0.1 are now stuck for five months or more to get withdrawal from those accounts to reach 0.05btc threshold.

This must have definitely caused havoc for those who were defending the gainbitcoin for there regular payouts.
552  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Price drops after ETF not approved, it's because people are Dumb on: March 09, 2017, 12:28:44 PM
HODL is good policy. However price wont drop after ETF rejection. It is definitely going to get some correction.  Another cause we need to  check is Chinese market situation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-08/china-s-top-bitcoin-exchanges-extend-suspension-of-withdrawals
553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Positive news for Chinese players : We are going to see $2000 in March itself ? on: March 09, 2017, 12:26:12 PM
Did you check this news from bloomberg which mentions that major chinese exchanges are still continuing the suspension. Only this time it is indefinite!!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-08/china-s-top-bitcoin-exchanges-extend-suspension-of-withdrawals
554  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's with the price dropping? on: March 09, 2017, 12:21:36 PM
As per bloomberg report the story is different. It says that major exchanges will life the suspension after regulators approve internal compliance upgrades. More information at [1]

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-08/china-s-top-bitcoin-exchanges-extend-suspension-of-withdrawals
555  Local / India / current bitcoin price drop result of Chinese exchanges on: March 09, 2017, 12:14:41 PM
The chinese exchanges have continued to hold the suspension on the withdrawals. This is a big thing. Because this time the ban is for indefinite time. suspension will lift only after regulators approve internal compliance upgrades. Withing few hours, the price drops in bitcoin prices fell sharply and continued to remain so.
Check further details at following link

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-08/china-s-top-bitcoin-exchanges-extend-suspension-of-withdrawals
556  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think bull run coming soon on: March 09, 2017, 12:00:00 PM
This is already a  bull run that we are experiencing right now. Being up by 120% from last year is more than what I can wish for, and sometimes a retreat is also a welcome sight so we can start another cycle of run up towards new territories. If this consolidation that is happening right now is any indication of higher prices, then we might break $1,500 sooner than expected.
Well I really hope we break 1500$ sooner than expected now so in expectation to what will happen this weekend if ETF gets approved or not im holding all the bitcoin I have accumulated from trading and signature campaigns these past few weeks and im not gonna sell them yet to get more money. I hope we break 1500$ by that time but a little rise to 1300$+ would I think be lovely too.
Looks like 15k$ will have to wait bit longer than expected. Looking at price correction, it seems bulls are rethinking their decision. It could be due to http://www.businessinsider.in/bitcoin-slides-after-chinas-3-biggest-exchanges-say-they-will-keep-blocking-withdrawals/articleshow/57538794.cms
557  Economy / Speculation / Re: What keeps Bitcoin price stable? on: March 09, 2017, 11:57:07 AM
* Absence of FUD ( fear, uncertainty, doubt),
* Absence of pump and dump

There you go price of bitcoin will 99% stable. With above two options, price of anything will remain stable/steady and all increase or decrease will be gradual.
558  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: March 08, 2017, 06:14:22 PM
My prediction is simple we will touch the 2000 dollars price at the end of the year maybe we will only touch but I think that price is reachable and if it this then bitcoin will create a storm in the economic world and everyone will want to have a piece of bitcoin.
Judging by the fact that analysts predict, then it really will happen. I think that such a prospect is quite possible, given the doubling of prices over the last few months.
Yeah, the current bitcoin situation is very promising and gives the impression that it is going to keep on rising in both the user base and the price and that means that we should hold on to our savings because there is going to be a peak in the next few months and that will be a good way to make profit.

Hitting main stream of adoption would be my predictions on bitcoins, still it might need more time. Probably before 2020, we could assume everything will be available for bitcoin payments.

Things will definitely change in next 4 to 5 years as we will see more adoption and even the acceptance of bitcoin will go to higher level and we will find many online as well as offline places where we could easily spend our bitcoins and the price will also be much higher then present.
I don’t know spending bitcoins off line at the moment sounds like nothing but a pipe dream at the moment, confirmations are taking a long time the las time I sent a transaction it took 24 hours to confirm despite the fact I sent a good fee.
This is true especially when trying to estimate the usage of bitcoin in day to day life. Just check how much time does any credit/debit card takes to complete the transaction. It happens in few seconds. Everytime I try to send or receive bitcoins average time is few hours. Who would wait for that much amount of time for completion of transaction.  Bitcoin technology needs to be scalable to growing requirement.
Just imagine what would happen when bitcoin price would reach to the highest level, transaction fees also increase exponentially. That is not good sign.
559  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? on: March 08, 2017, 01:57:56 PM
Looking at recent price fluctuations, it does seems that prices are being manipulated. Prices are observing bit of dump now.
560  Economy / Economics / Re: Difference of Trading and Investing? on: March 08, 2017, 10:36:59 AM
trading is buying at low, selling at high.

investing is buying a stock or a house, and earn long term money from it.

Trading is short term self-investment whereas investment is a long term trading. Smiley  There are many ways to go about trading. Investment also requires quite a lot research.
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