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5401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What importance is kyc In gambling section on: June 03, 2019, 06:45:13 AM
People had conflicting views about KYC on gambling sites, but for me, it's better  they asked KYC if the winning is above the threshold to withdraw justliek they do in exchange, if the winning is only $100 to $500 then it is ok not to ask for KYC, bit if it is above $3000 then they can ask players to do KYC.
Can you give me one good reason why you feel KYC is required for money above 3000$ ? Because for me, I think its not necessary at all regardless of the amount in question since gamblers enjoys their privacy. If a casino site deems it necessary to ask KYC from gamblers who win huge amount of money, then it should be made compulsory for everyone because as far as I am concerned KYC is KYC

If I won a huge money on a site and it starts asking me to fill kyc before withdrawing, I would angrily leave that site with the money, but I can bet that the damage I would make to the reputation of such site would be worse than the money they hold behind.
Let me give a short illustration, if as a business owner you do a carry out Giveaways as a way of promoting your business? Don’t you think it will be necessary to have the information of the winners of those giveaways? This will be the proof you can also have to tell others of your genuine. That is the same thing with KYC for big winners in gambling.

I think this is the same thing with gambling, the industry will need the information of the winner since most people don’t believe that its possible to win big, the information might not be displayed but its safe with the site .Its not a bad thing to fill KYC anyway, just few questions asked.
5402  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the real value of bitcoin and cryptocurrency on: June 03, 2019, 06:13:57 AM
In my opinion bitcoin and altcoins are both unstable, So with Bitcoin i can not compare any of altcoins. The reason here is clearly seen, when the price of bitcoin gets enormous, the price of altcoins decreases. Reduced price of bitcoin too much, later the price of altcoins increased.
You sure, because to me, I see it differently, I believe we just left the bear market not quite long and we still have the fresh memory of the events that happened then, I believe we remember vividly that when bitcoin was extremely low which was during the bear market, most altcoins too were extremely low and none of them has been able to recover since then until the top 50 coins started recovering first following the semi bull run of bitcoin.

The only time altcoins were running so high was never when bitcoin became low, it was when bitcoin started consolidating which will be the same pattern it will follow now. If you say altcoins moon when bitcoin becomes very low, then it means people should not expect any increase from altcoins now until it gets to ATH and back to bear market again.
5403  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 29 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: June 02, 2019, 07:10:48 AM
I think this crypto gambling foundation or whatever you guys are trying to get known more nowadays requires a lot of third party involvement as well. I mean NOBODY in their right mind would question provable fairness of primedice, primedice is the most legit casino in the whole world with stake right with it, so we all know you are legit.

Bustabit and dice as well those guys are legit. You guys are making so much money staying legit that I don't even doubt you because being scammers would make you earn less money than legit business, so it makes no sense to turn dark now, so I trust you with all my heart.

But, this crypto gambling foundation should be definitely a third party organization, it looks like heavily supported and involved by the team and that won't be liked by many. Hire some consultant firm all independent from your operations and make them look for all websites with fairness and yours too, we all know you will be there and you are fair so let others say that about you.
5404  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲EOSBet.io - Licensed Casino Platform 🎲Provably Fair 🎲NOW ACCEPTING BTC ₿ on: June 01, 2019, 03:14:47 PM
Is there any news for any new games? I know you guys are working on hi/lo right now but it hasn't published yet and I wouldn't be really into it even if it was available since I don't like it that much. Is there any other games on your mind ?

I don't know if you shared that information yet but if it is possible I would love to play some other games as well, video poker is one of them, that is a great game. Maybe plinko as well because I like that too. I don't know what else you can add but as long as you add anything I would be super happy.

Dice is boring after a while and it gets just too stressful, I want to go back to times when I played to have fun instead of just feeling like I am grinding and trying to lose as little as possible just to keep mining bet token, that is not a good thing for a casino.
5405  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Looking for fair & trusted site? on: June 01, 2019, 08:24:32 AM
I'm suggesting some gambling sites which hopefully benefit everyone. Those who are looking for safer and trustworthy sites are hoping to benefit from this post. All these sites are popular and probably the Fair Sites. Hopefully, my recommended sites will be working for those who are looking for good and popular sites.

Bet365    :-  https://www.bet365.com/
Stake      :-  https://stake.com/
Betway    :-  https://betway.com/
Primedice :- https://primedice.com
Cloudbet  :- https://www.cloudbet.com/en/

Thank You
I think you forgot to add one of the most popular sites there is and that is fortune jack. Fortune Jack is very popular and a lot of people are making use of it, though I can't really tell the level of their security, but I haven't heard or read any bad stories about them ,just like you will hear about other casinos (there might be, just that I haven't come across one before )and people who I know that are making use of it says that the site is good and they haven't had much or any issues with making use of it.

Even the ones you have mentioned here ,you can't vouch for them to be highly secured. But it's always best for newbies to go for popular casinos instead of the ones that are not popular ,because that way they are lessening the risk they take. Going for a new casino with no reputation yet is a huge risk for anyone
I want to also believe it is a mistake or maybe the OP only needed to mention 5sites, everyone know Fortune jack to be truly trustworthy and safe though but I also expected some other sites that were absent on the list, but like I mentioned earlier, there is possibility that he only needed just 5sites and the good thing is that the sites he listed are all very good and can be recommended

Recommending a site is different from vouching for the site, I feel he is only recommending based on what he knows about those sites, its will now take whoever wants to gamble on the site to go for proper lesson on how to ensure a more secured gambling.
Exactly he listed very nice sites and I must commend him for that, none of the site on the list has ever disappointed me and Bet265 is the overall Best, with so much years of experience I call tell anyone that gambling on that site is safe but the player will still have to play safe, that a site is safe does not mean the players should play foolishly and expect safe result, if any player plays without control, they would be accountable for their actions.

Like you have said and I quote Recommending is not vouching, I have recommended BET365 but that does not mean you have to disobey the rules of gambling because its safe. In any site, always play what you are able to afford.
5406  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you start crypto gambling? on: June 01, 2019, 07:49:23 AM
I joined crypto gambling in 2016 through a friend. We made some money from our portfolio, and then I was introduced to crypto gambling by my friend. I began to experience the foundation, I lost a sum of money and started trying to check the amount I lost, but I increased the loss. I still remember that I started with 0.05 BTC and 1ETH, ending the game of chance I lost all the money I invested. Until now, I have not earned a profit from crypto gambling.
That sucks man. You should not gamble if you are not able to figure out how to win and make money in crypto gambling. It is just about making money and you could do that by trading crypto as well. In addition, you could have been far more rich than any of us had you speculated in Bitcoin back in 2016 for long till December of the boom.
Mapping out a plan for winning in gambling is not so easy, its possible that he came in with the winning mindset but you should understand the uncertainty in gambling and moreover no one speculated that BTC would experience this great increase and even when there was speculations, we would keep on doubting, rather we prefer to gamble and get quick cash.

I don’t even know how much I would have lost by now but I know I would have made more money if I invested in any other business. I have had fun and that is more than the money lost.
5407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: HAVE YOU EVER MET ANY SUCCESSFUL GAMBLER on: June 01, 2019, 06:42:20 AM
I have not yet ever met a "Successful" Gambler in my whole like all was I met was a "broke" gambler. Since I don't believe in gambling that much because I have once a family of gblers I never seen them successful but I seen them winning sometimes. I can't called their winning as their success since when they go again in the next day to play they will lose it again. Success is not just one day or one week but success is lifetime.
Its bad that you have no winner around you but I have seen some, and even seen more who have retained their wins. The few ones who you have seen that win and loose back are those who are not guided players, there is also a warning but the interesting nature of the game keeps them blinded till they loose back what they have lost

I haven’t won so much in gambling but I gain fulfillment and that alone is more than been successful. Its quite unfortunate that the only people the OP sees as successful gamblers are those ones who have made plenty but like they say in my dialect “Money never gives happiness and does not make anyone a success” There is more to being successful than money alone.
5408  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you disagree?? on: May 31, 2019, 04:54:40 PM
So now ... I'm revisiting this thread and I'm glad I created this topic.. I still believe we'll see btc over 15k by the end of this year..in fact I think 20k is possible
A good prediction dude, if many of you buy when this thread is made, of course your profits must have been very large Smiley
we almost touched $9k, maybe it will be realized in the next few days. Actually $15k is not difficult if the market is still bullish for long time
Those who were still waiting for bitcoin to dump to $4800 as at the time the op created this topic will be so disappointed by now, because we have moved very far from that value becoming a reality, and before we can get that again is maybe when the next bull run peaks and people are beginning to dump their coin, thereby leading us to bear market again for the cycle to restart, then they can get the opportunity to buy at that price.

Well, I think I would not say it is still too late for them to buy, they have already missed out of 4k trend, then can still buy in this trend since it is like we cross past that $15k by end of the month.
5409  Economy / Speculation / Re: $10000 is just around the corner it seems. on: May 31, 2019, 03:53:35 PM
If you look at Google trends for Bitcoin we basically hit the highest in the last 12 months. So there is attention already.

If Bitcoin breaks $10K this time unlike last May 2018, then it will make headlines everywhere on most financial websites and papers. Then the retail FOMO rally will follow.

These days most exchanges are prepared for a surge of new customers so it won't be as bad as last Nov-Dec 2017. So if it takes off who knows where the new top will be?
In that case, I think I will have to reverse my support for the $10k, I honestly don’t want it getting there yet, I still need to raise more fiat through my work to invest more at this value. I wish I had more money, I would have invested all now, because I can also sense that $10k will cause a very big drama and create an history we have never see in the price of bitcoin.

If FOMO can pick up at $10k which is far higher than the value where the last FOMO pick from, I think bitcoin might be heading close to$50 before we get a turnaround back to all times low again for another bear/bull session, but I doubt if that will be possible now, because some analyst believes it’s a 4 years cycle.
5410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is needed for a gambler to the success? on: May 31, 2019, 01:36:09 PM
Gamblers like you who strongly believe in the fallacy of gambling as a game of luck have been the ones enriching casino operators. I have been at a casino center where I saw gamblers furiously scribbling down the previous number on a strip of card and there are times gamblers frantically scour the casinos digital board to display the last digital numbers all in an attempt to get lucky lol its quiet humorous.

The house edge will not stop anyone from being successful unless those who are not strategic in playing, there is therefore nothing like lucky player but players that knows how to handle their games and as well stay on top of their game.
You are so on point. Why would a reasonable person believe a game to be all about luck without, gambling games that I have seen requires real thinking and so there should be strategies to playing, I think there are too many indolent gamblers, they depend on luck, even when they know deep down their hearts that there is a room for knowledge.

I agree with you completely, gambling requires strategy and one of the best of those strategies is Martingale strategy. It has worked for a lot of players, there are also other strategies and it depends on the game but in luck, luck happens one in over 100 times in gambling.
5411  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 51btc won in a day on: May 31, 2019, 06:12:22 AM
Primedice user (Marcelod4) won in a day 51BTC  and convert to 51BTC to $178,700 <-- awesome wining .

Congratulation Marcelod4

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It is unpredictable winning for me, that i can win 5 bitcoins in a day. Awesome, he won in gambling, winning in gambling, it is very difficult but he did it, hence 5 bitcoins are for him, very precious thing. Definitely his life has been changed, because now bitcoin price has been reached $8750 , and in coming days, we will see more changing in bitcoin price.
Magnificent wins like this are very rare to see especially those who make it happen on daily basis because you cannot do it all the time. It is great to win with such a big amount but what if he loses it tomorrow. I think he should stop using this money to start further gambling as we know that in this place you can win this game but it is equally possible to lose the next game as well. It should be enough.
How can he lose such money, I think that would be completely impossible, for a player that can win this type of huge money, I can bet that he already had a plan before he won. The only people that can win this big and still lose in the end are those who start gambling without a goal, they only gamble with hope of making money, no set plan of how to achieve it and what to do with it when it finally arrives and majority of them never win.

Incase the player is confused on what to invest in let me advise on cryptocurrency investment, this would be a great time to invest and there is safety guarantee, less risk with a very bright future. Do not try to put the money back into gambling.
It’s very possible bro, in short there are record of people who have done worst, I read of one who had consistently been playing for years and according to the report, he already prepared a plan on what to do with his money, but immediately he hit the jackpot, that demonic though of playing again for more wins came upon him and he did again with all he won and within another few seconds he lost it all again

Gambling is mysterious and the money gotten from it is never used for anything reasonable. Let’s just hope this player would do better and like you advised, cryptocurrency is and remains the best place for investment.
5412  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♨️🎲 WINDICE.io 🎲 Choose your lucky number 🔰 Progressive Faucet💰 Jackpots 🎁❤ on: May 30, 2019, 04:41:38 PM
Looking at how windice owners and workers build the website and the community, I can safely say that windice will stay like one of the top gambling places in crypto world for years and years. I don't really know the daily wagered numbers on average and how much they profit etc etc and I really hope this website profits them a lot.

Because, if the creators/owners/workers all make decent amount of money that means it will continue to do so until they can't and looking at some of the other examples like primedice where they do make a lot of money it means it doesn't have to end anytime soon.

Windice is literally the first place in probably 5 years to take this "new casino" deal for real and managed to do it properly, all others had an awful start and some went downhill and even the ones we like now had horrible starts, the best case of running a casino in the past 5 years is Windice, dudes really know what they are doing.
5413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Your thoughts on Facebook's GlobalCoin on: May 30, 2019, 12:15:40 PM
As a stable coin there will be no reason to hold it. As a method of payment, I'd rather use a myriad of other untainted options.
That is if the payment method you mentioned will be accepted by Facebook. One thing that we need to get clear is that, Facebook coin may not be a global currency as people thought it will be, Facebook will only be a stable coin that will marketed to its users, and when we talk of users, we are not talking of regular users, but the commercial users on its platform.

We have millions of commercial users who would be willing to go through any method Facebook imposes on them because of the usefulness of Facebook platform to them in marketing their products to end users and regular customers on their platform. So this coin is not actually going to be for everyone, but for specific people on their platform.
5414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Looking for Good Coin to Invest : My List may help on: May 30, 2019, 11:26:46 AM

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Is there any way we can just have a peaceful suggestion without having any form of manipulation? I can’t believe that I paid attention to you only to get disappointed along the way. When you said you had the answer to the best way to make money, your introduction was getting interesting and was hoping to see the real way in the end, only for me to see that you are shilling your project.

Are you saying the best way to invest in good project is to invest in your project? Common man, how does that correlate. Well, the best way for now is to focus on IEO projects and if your project is not on IEO, then I am sorry, your project may not meet up with its cap.
5415  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbetting? Welcome to the winner's circle on: May 30, 2019, 10:51:41 AM
Okay, this is cool, but I haven't seen anyone that is following this thread that talks about winning a bet, or is it not working out for them? And what I'm seeing here isn't what I was expecting before I got on this thread. Thought you were going to give us the strategy you make use of, but you're just posting answers here. I think it's best you drop the strategy you use in getting all those answers you're given and that way we can look into it as well, since you said those that are relying on news and others are wasting their time. So how do you know that what you're posting here is accurate?.
5416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is needed for a gambler to the success? on: May 30, 2019, 10:16:44 AM
Everyone know gambling is filled with success and loss but what is the most important for being successful in gambling
Luck or experience?
Majority of the things we do in life requires patience, although I don't really know about gambling since it is something that has to do with luck, you will have to be careful and at the same time make use of your senses and be patient as well. I read a story of a man who has been going to casino for like twelve and betting the same number and after twelve of not winning, he finally won like about thirteen million dollars or so. Not everyone can have that kind of patience lol, and I'm very sure that he was playing it like a mad man, unlike some people that will go to casino and waste all their money in gambling. So play wisely and have patience in you.
5417  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Creators of Dicing 🎲 | 29 Billion Bets | 112+ BTC Jackpot! on: May 29, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
People don't have to bet 100 BTC just to join the VIP chat. The min amount wagered could be small like 0.1 BTC or so. The reason why I suggested this is because it would eliminate all the childrish behaviour that is very common right now in the general chat.

Most of the people there probably didn't even bet 3 figures worth of fiat and are constantely begging others for money because they lost it all on dice and they got a family to feed. It basically happens very frequently and its getting very annoying.

The VIP chat most likely wouldn't have these issues and nobody would keep betting just to get into the chat just to troll. Because if there begging isnt working on the general chat then it wouldn't work either in the VIP chat.

Its just an idea.
I think it would make super difference for the whales not people who want to be whales. For example if there was a chat where only few hundred people are allowed and only 10-20 people are online all the time, that place wouldn't be more "elite" in the sense that there will be less and less people talking there?

Look at regular chat, there are a ton of people chatting there and the chat is so fast that you have to follow very carefully to read all messages, what if there was a channel where you and people like you could talk with 10-20 people at max, the chat would have more quality.

Think about twitch for example, some twitch channels have open to everyone chats and usually those places are a mess and you can't read all messages but when they turn to subs only mode there is more quality and the streamer has more chance to replying to everyone. Similar idea.
5418  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bittrex locked me out on: May 29, 2019, 10:10:22 AM
We really need to understand this with the exchange platforms and id verification is to bring government confidence into cryptocurrencies. I think many dubious people are hiding under the anonymous nature of cryptocurrencies and bitcoin's transactions in particular to fund terrorism, hacking, scamming, stealing public fund and laund it through exchange and that is why it is good they know the identity of those that used their platforms.
When it comes to exchanges like Binance and Bittrex, they are the most respectable exchanges I have ever seen because they would not take any shit that would tarnish their image or mar the investment of their users.

If we make our right investigation, we will find out that op is probably the one at fault here which should be all about KYC and I don’t know why people who feel they are not dubious run away from KYC, if we trust an exchange and that is the only exchange we chose to use, I think the KYC is worth trying.

The only exchange I have been using is binance which I have done my KYC and have no reason to go drop my KYc again somewhere else.
5419  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do technical actually work on: May 29, 2019, 09:40:52 AM
Yes, technical analysis works.

But you cannot totally depend on technical analysis for trading regardless whether you trade bitcoin or Forex. You have to do fundamental analysis as well because in the history bitcoin price mainly drove through fundamentals. However, it's not possible to apply technical analysis for all coins. Coins with low volume and market cap which are listed only in one or two exchanges can be easily manipulated. Therefore, it is wise to take decisions for trading using technicals only for major cryptocurrencies which have a high volume and market cap such as bitcoin and Ethereum.
Yeah agree, because we know that price changes don't occur because of just one factor, there are many others factors that affect prices, start from manipulation, economic conditions, issues that happens, and many other thing. Predict prices not only from TA by reading candles, but there are many other things you can do to predict the price so it will be more accurate
I think it is better we depend more on these factors than to rely on reading candles on TA. I have seen so many charts in the past few weeks that bitcoin started this bull run and no one out of them has successfully match the value they predicted and the value the market itself released.

All these predictions that I see are basically assumption and numbers picked randomly, I think other factors like the ones you mentioned are really the ones we should look at for us to accurately make the right decision or near the right decision. That is why I like holder, they don’t speculate as much as short term traders does, they just wait to see the end value which is the ATH before taking profit.
5420  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: May 29, 2019, 07:46:48 AM
Putting your money into the interest is by far the most logical thing you can do no matter when you do it. When bitcoin is going down you are making more bitcoin so you are losing less than others, when bitcoin is going up you are making more profit then others.

I think while we are on this bull run I wish we had like a locking mechanism as well, I know it doesn't feel safe and what would happen if you suddenly needed money so it makes absolutely no sense and nobody would want it but if we had locking mechanism in the website I would put all of my money into interest and lock it for 30 days straight so I wouldn't touch it.

Whenever bitcoin goes up I tend to cash out a bit from my profits to get something I have been wanting for a while (this time it was a laptop bag for my alienware) and I need to stop doing that so I would totally use that locking mechanism even though it makes no sense to build something like that.
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