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5401  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: Post Reporting Being Used As A Tool Of Harassment and Censorship on: February 12, 2020, 08:10:03 AM
So you're just choosing to remain completely impervious to the fact that you aren't being "singled out" and simply being treated like everyone else? Do you have anything relevant to add to the conversation or just namecalling?

Do you ever ask yourself, regardless of what is happening here, why it is you are so obsessed with my every activity you feel the need to respond to it?

I'll take that as a "no" and another "no."

Back to the subject: The majority of your comments were deleted as they were responses to off-topic posts that were also deleted. Both your and their posts were completely devoid of relevance to the topic of discussion. Just thought you should know.
5402  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 12, 2020, 05:46:23 AM
So do all BSV shillers actually believe Craig is Satoshi ? Or are they literally trolling on a completely different level ?

I haven't exactly followed the hole Bsv shit-show , but how can these plebs actually believe Craig is Satoshi simply because he said so ??

There would be countless of ways to prove it , if infact he was ,  but he failed to provide any proof . So why do people actually believe it just cause that man is spreading this crap everywhere " I am Satoshi " Huh


How? Maybe if you have master's degree in software engineering, bachelor in informatics and 15 years of experience as a software architect, then you can make your own educated decisions listening to the man himself rather than the social media? As a professional in my field (which many people simply are not) I can say with absolute certainty that Craig is Satoshi. So your whole assumption is wrong, no one on the BSV side is believing anyone "simply because he said so".  However, you on the other hand, very much show the attributes of a person who believes the anti-Craig propaganda simply because sociopaths such as OneMegGreg said so. Oh, and most importantly, I've got empirical evidence that Craig is Satoshi. You can't beat it with any other kind of evidence.

You want to see what it looks like to have empirical evidence, then watch this:

https://youtu.be/ji2p5pxURVs

You're certainly awful at realizing when you're being conned. None of your impressive education helped you become wiser in that regard.

I watched a minute and a half of your YouTube video and I thought the same thing I've always thought about Craig: holy shit, this guy is an absolute fucking fraud.

You look at this video and you claim it is "empirical evidence" that Craig is Satoshi.
I look at this video and use it to come to the exact opposite conclusion.

Do you see how useless your "empirical evidence" is yet?

Produce some real evidence and as I said earlier, I won't contest it. I will let it be evaluated by others. What you've produced so far is just jokes.

As for what Andresen actually believes regarding Craig, let's be fair. He said this in 2016, yet BSV shills continue to misrepresent his words:

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Now that six months have gone past, I’m being asked if I still think Craig Wright was Satoshi.

I think there are two possibilities.

Either he was Satoshi, but really wants the world to think he isn’t, so he created an impossible-to-untangle web of truths, half-truths and lies. And ruined his reputation in the process.

If he was Satoshi, we should respect his wish to remain anonymous, and ignore him.

The other possibility is he is a master scammer/fraudster who managed to trick some pretty smart people over a period of several years.

In which case everybody except the victims of his fraud and law enforcement working on behalf of those victims should ignore him.

So, either he was or he wasn’t. In either case, we should ignore him. I regret ever getting involved in the “who was Satoshi” game, and am going to spend my time on more fun and productive pursuits.

So Andresen believes there's an equal chance that Craig is a "master scammer." The narrative that he completely believes Wright is Satoshi has been bogus since before BSV was even an idea. Either way, he clearly says Wright should be ignored. And I accept an appeal to Andresen's authority on bitcoin over yours every day of the week.

Vitalik mic drop moment about Faketoshi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qLI3VIHuKU
5403  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: Post Reporting Being Used As A Tool Of Harassment and Censorship on: February 12, 2020, 05:09:06 AM
My favorite thing about these threads is it is like a clown car that carpools around to pick up all the clowns and brings them to one place so they can demonstrate their clown act. Except for Vod of course, he is a sad children's party magician. He still hitches a ride with the clown car though. Don't forget your noses everyone.

So you're just choosing to remain completely impervious to the fact that you aren't being "singled out" and simply being treated like everyone else? Do you have anything relevant to add to the conversation or just namecalling?

Your response is a perfect example of a post that should be deleted for being off-topic. It doesn't have anything to do with the subject matter being discussed and is simply trolling. If it gets deleted, I wouldn't be surprised, and I also wouldn't be surprised if mine was deleted along with it.
5404  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2020, 07:44:09 AM
Unfortunately collapse is a reality.

You're misusing the word "reality" here. Something isn't a "reality" until it has happened. You can say its a "certainty," and I would actually agree with you, as everything that ever was eventually collapses, even the universe itself.

But the fact is the old school capitalist countries are surviving from collapsing by letting/pushing third world countries to collapse. And taking advantage of these poor collapsed countries.

I agree with you here. The thing is most of the benefit goes to a handful of people, and your average capitalist country citizen (I assume you mean Western country citizen as most countries are capitalist) doesn't really enjoy the spoils,* as they are also being milked by the same handful of people.

What is truly unsustainable is the massive flow of wealth to the top 1%, from the poor and middle class to the rich. I would like to think that factor would make revolution inevitable but we have a long way to go before our poor people are uncomfortable enough to take action. So, it may not happen in any of our lifetimes.

Will society collapse at some point, for some reason? Certainly.

Will it happen within our lifetimes? Probably not.

*edit: I suppose we enjoy the spoils in the form of iPhones, diamonds, single-use plastics and cheaper prices thanks to cheap labor sources.
5405  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2020, 07:24:14 AM
Culture always moves to the left. Just to the left of socialism, we have communism.

The entire west is socialist.

If this were true, it would mean socialism is doing quite a good job then.
No. We are living off the wealth that previous generations of capitalism brought us. Like a fat kid spending a huge inheritance on fancy cars and hookers and blow.

Speak for yourself. The companies I work for are run by people under 50 or even 40 years of age, who are all self-made. If their income ever came from "previous generations," its because that's been the case of every generation since the fall of Rome.

Socialism is not sustainable and a collapse is coming. This is nothing new around here.

Right right, we're always on the brink of collapse. I felt the same way around 2011, and then years went by and the collapse never happened. A collapse is always coming, just like the second coming of Jesus. It's always just around the corner.
5406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Satoshi Vision - Unmoderated Thread on: February 11, 2020, 06:14:38 AM
3 more BSV nodes have fallen into line, but the contingency of stalwart nodes on 0.2.1 and 0.2.2 doesn't seem to be shaken:



Meanwhile the price of BSV still hovers around $350  Roll Eyes

Imagine how the fate of a $6.4 billion market cap could rest on the shoulders of 259 nodes... Decentralization, just like Satoshi envision it!  Cheesy
5407  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2020, 04:54:59 AM
Culture always moves to the left. Just to the left of socialism, we have communism.

The entire west is socialist.

If this were true, it would mean socialism is doing quite a good job then.

Sanders is a lifelong commie and his party is openly talking about throwing right wingers in gulags. Yes they absolutely will kill masses of people if they can get away with it.

 Shocked

Better start moving into the bunker now before its too late!!!

The president doesn't have nearly as much power as people suspect. Its more of a figurehead position that represents the overall mood of the country. Right now our mood is contrarian cheeto. By this time next year it may have switched to hopeful bird.



I found this part of the aforementioned quotation to be especially apt:

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Regardless of who wins the election this year, the supranational corporatocracy that essentially owns the U.S. government is not about to let Bernie Sanders implement the same basic social programs that most capitalist countries throughout world have provided to their people for decades.
5408  Other / Meta / Re: REEE: Post Reporting Being Used As A Tool Of Harassment and Censorship on: February 11, 2020, 04:37:39 AM
As usual, thank you for doing you part to help me raise awareness about these issues.

The main issue is that you don't understand how forum moderation works.

If you write a reply that solely addresses a post that is later deleted for being off-topic, that means your post is off-topic as well, and will also be deleted. It's pretty easy to understand, really.
5409  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: February 10, 2020, 06:42:35 PM
I saw this on Bovada today, the odds for all presidential candidates, republicans and Kanye West included (lol):



It kind of gives you an idea of where everybody currently stands. I was surprised that they had Bloomberg so high on there. My other go-to source for odds, RealClearPolitics, seems to not be reflecting anything of value anymore, as they still have Biden up nationally by a considerable margin, despite the fact that he failed to win a single delegate in Iowa:

5410  Other / Meta / REEE: Post Reporting Being Used As A Tool Of Harassment and Censorship on: February 10, 2020, 06:23:36 PM
Since TECSHARE doesn't want to hear rebuttals in his locked thread, I thought I would point out some of the things he missed for him in this thread.

From TS's OP in the locked thread:

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By the pattern of the removed posts, you will see the intent is harassment and preventing specific topics from being discussed. They mods are either just mindlessly removing them, or worse actively complicit in this behavior.

The intent of the mods is to do their job as mod. That should be self-evident.

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Feel free to make another REE: Thread™ if me having the ability to speak in this thread bothers you so much.

That's not what bothers me. What bothers me is that you won't let other people speak and explain to you why you are mistaken in your locked threads.

For example (and mods, please feel free to correct me where I may be mistaken):

Post #1 (reply to Vod in topic OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes): Vod's comment was off-topic, thus it was deleted. As your post solely addressed his off-topic post, it was also deleted. This is pretty standard protocol.

Post #2 (reply to Vod in topic More trust system abuse by Lauda): same as Post #1, your comment was deleted as it was only a response to Vod's post, which was also off-topic. You even said this:

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Remind me again what this has to do with the topic? Oh right nothing, not that you or the mods give a shit about that.

Apparently the mods do give a shit about it.

Post #3 (reply to Vod in topic More trust system abuse by Lauda): you just reposted your previous reply to Vod, whose comment was, again, also deleted.

Post #4 (reply to Lauda in topic Timelord2067 ad hominem, trolling, fud, accusations, fake flags, lies etc NSFW): this was written in a self-moderated thread, it even says Lauda deleted it:

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic.

Post #5 (reply to marlboroza in topic PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2): this was your reply:

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Thanks for demonstrating how the mob handles criticism... with more mobbing.

How do you consider this to be on-topic? Its just a quip and adds nothing constructive to the conversation.

Post #6 (reply to marboroza in topic PrimeNumber7 is an alt of Quickseller, Take 2): same principle as posts 1-4 -- the post you were replying to was deemed off-topic, and as a result your response was off-topic as well.

Post #7 (reply to Vod in topic Trust System Abuse By Nullius): same principle -- Vod's post was off-topic and deleted, yours was simply a reply to it, so it was also deemed off-topic.

Post #8 (reply to Vod in topic Trust System Abuse By Nullius): same principle -- Vod's post was off-topic and deleted, yours was simply a reply to it, so it was also deemed off-topic.

Post #9 (reply to Vod in topic Trust System Abuse By Nullius): same principle -- Vod's post was off-topic and deleted, yours was simply a reply to it, so it was also deemed off-topic.

OK, you mentioned a lot of deleted posts and I am not going to go through the rest of them individually, but I hope you can see the pattern emerging here.

If a post you are replying to is deemed off-topic and deleted, and your reply only addresses the off-topic aspect of the deleted post, your post will also be deleted.

Some of your other deleted posts are just straight off-topic or trolling. As I said in the other REE thread, even TOAA learned that in order to not have their troll posts deleted, they needed to address an on-topic element in their post somewhere, then they were free to troll about and be a general dickhead.

OK let's take a look at the rest of the ones I think were probably just deleted for trolling/off-topic, and not because the post you were responding to was deleted:

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Is some one upset their little smear fest is not working as planned?

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You mean like these dogs?
(meme)

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You are often wrong, but since when has that stopped you?

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Now only to get to the other dozen or so people you attack...

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Some how I don't find your observations to be very impartial considering your own history of trust system abuse against me.

Out of your list of 26 posts, I see 2 that are borderline on-topic and perhaps shouldn't have been deleted. The last one is hard to place given there's no context.

2 out of 26. And for those 2, most people would say, "oh well", and move on with their lives.

Well now, I know your natural response to me is "I don't care what you think", and that's part of the problem. You should care, because if you did, you might have learned a thing or two from what others are trying to point out to you. Instead you live in a perpetual state of confusion and paranoia, which I guess for you is a lot more fun than simply accepting you didn't understand the forum rules.
5411  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 10, 2020, 03:11:19 PM
So you do agree now, that a forged forgery in someone else's name does not make that someone else guilty of forging?

ANSWER THE QUESTION. YES OR NO.

You seem to be silently ignoring this important piece so I just want to have it established. So we would not have to return to this idiocy.

What is a "forged forgery," and why would Craig present it as evidence at his trial? Surely he would know if a document he was submitting to the court was forged or not prior to its submission. He presented it, and only afterward was it shown to be forged. Then he said, "Oh, I didn't alter it, someone else must have."  Roll Eyes

To answer your question regarding proof that CSW is Satoshi. Yes, I know for a fact, that Craig Wright is the sole creator of BitCoin and the person behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. I have empirical evidence. I have already stated it. How many times must I repeat it? Empirical evidence is the best kind of evidence and that's why I can say with 100% certainty that Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto.

What a cowardly load of bollocks. We can come to the exact opposite conclusion as you based on your ethereal "empirical evidence." That's no evidence at all. Its simply your assertion which you insist is meaningful without any sort of rational basis.

I don't care that you have already stated that you have the evidence. I said produce the evidence. Now stop squirming and produce the evidence or prepare to be ridiculed indefinitely.
5412  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 10, 2020, 02:02:43 PM
reductio ad absurdum x2, propositional fallacy

Are you going to make with the proof that CSW is Satoshi or what? You know it as a fact. Share why with us.

Unlike the contributors of this thread with which you are arguing, you've produced no evidence of anything other than that you have a huge ego.

Thus far you have simply attempted to "win the argument" via personal attacks and logical fallacies.

Produce your evidence or shut up.
5413  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 10, 2020, 10:28:01 AM
Writing / posting anything is for 'free' - what do you expect?

Metanet will fix that

 Cheesy

It's a laugh alright. So you won't be using Metanet then, I take it?

Not that anybody will, because it doesn't exist outside of a paid membership. Its kind of like joining the Faketoshi Fan Club for those who want to throw money at Craig directly. Right now, Metanet consists of 3 YouTube videos. Take a look for yourself:

https://metanet.icu/

Decentraland will be hosting full-fledged virtual orgies before Metanet has its first actual user.
5414  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 10, 2020, 08:27:52 AM
Nope

Nope to your nope. See how easy that is?

Anybody can do what you're doing.
5415  Economy / Reputation / Re: Trust System Abuse By Nullius on: February 10, 2020, 07:51:44 AM
It is a well known psychology of mobs. Vod starts it off with his frivolous rating, then Lauda joins in, then marlboroza, then Nullius, then Vod again, all content in the knowledge it will be much harder for them to be held accountable in the noise.

Do you honestly believe Vod's ratings for you have nothing to do with your ridiculous rating left for him? Don't bring up "but theymos said!!!" -- everybody here knows what theymos also said. I would say its too bad you don't have a single ally on this forum, but then you might also be part of a mob.

Yeah yeah, I know:

I am not here to be your friend.

You're here to win, we get it. What a great salesman.

If your sales suffer its because of your own attitude and actions. You'd have to be pretty dumb to not see how your actions in one section of the forum affect your reputation into other sections. I suppose this is the part where you say its not fair. You're right, its not fair. Life's not fair. Now buck up and stop bitching for a change.

Nobody's out to get you -- you keep getting yourself.
5416  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: February 10, 2020, 05:46:17 AM
Hyena is trolling out of desperation. What kind of a person says "I know for a fact that Craig is Satoshi" and then runs away from his statement? Well, a troll.

He wants us to think he's an authority on the subject when in fact he's a dev for SV-related projects and has a lot of money (and/or credibility) tied up in its success.

Regardless, the subject matter being discussed here has nothing to do with the technical aspects of BSV (its basically the same thing as Bitcoin Cash with some minor alterations). It has to do with whether or not Craig is an honest individual. Hyena is certainly no expert on that.

As for the profound technical brilliance of BSV, well:

Bitcoin SV (BSV) Nodes Are Accidentally Connecting to Bitcoin Cash (BCH) Nodes
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Feb 8, 2020

An issue has arisen on Bitcoin SV (BSV). Its nodes accidentally connect to some Bitcoin Cash (BCH) nodes when in safe mode.

Bitcoin SV (BSV) is a hard fork of Bitcoin Cash (BCH), and it seems that its architects did not change much. Bitcoin SV’s shoddy engineering allows for some BSV nodes to connect to BCH nodes when in safe mode...

The issue was brought to the attention of devs last week, and it was unfixed until recently. According to the comment on GitHub, the Bitcoin Cash blockchain is longer, which sometimes fools the Bitcoin SV node when in safe mode. It automatically enters safe mode when it finds a longer but invalid chain. The temporary solution now is to force-disable safe mode.

The issue underscores how similar BSV is to BCH—so similar that, apparently, even the nodes themselves sometimes struggle to tell the chains apart. The fact that the issue was allowed to persist for so long is also damning in its own right. Bitcoin SV has been live since November 2018, and only now this issue is being brought to light. Either the devs or doing a poor job or no one is paying attention to the actual architecture of Bitcoin SV.

Bitcoin SV has often faced criticism for the divisive activities of its founder, Craig Wright. Recently, even the founder of Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, weighed in on the controversy: he says that BSV “offers nothing” and that it absolutely will not be used by Wikipedia. The comments came after BSV fans were speculating Wales might come out in support of BSV after committing to a speaking slot at an upcoming CoinGeek conference.
5417  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer and Thief: Jens Steyaert - Ceo of Buzzex and ADZbuzz on: February 10, 2020, 05:29:23 AM
Do you have any sort of links to the project or screenshots or anything? I believe what you are saying, but it would be good to post some sort of reference material (other than photos) to give us something to investigate.
5418  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer and Thief: Jens Steyaert - Ceo of Buzzex and ADZbuzz on: February 09, 2020, 06:40:54 PM
This is an interesting post. If you could add a bit more info on the nature of the scam, I would suggest moving it to the Scam Accusations or Reputation sections. It would be read by people who probably have more to add to the story. This (Altcoin Discussion) section is kind of a wasteland.
5419  Economy / Reputation / Re: Viewing unedited posts and deleted posts, view per post, per user or per topic on: February 09, 2020, 04:06:33 PM
I've been thinking about expanding my archived posts to all posts that haven't been deleted yet. It would be useful for a case like this. It requires scraping a couple million pages, and storing 50+ million posts. I can limit the number of files on the server by storing 10 or 100 posts per page. Would this be useful?

Yes, I'm all for it!
5420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The Essential NFL Thread 🏈🏈 - new poll every week on: February 09, 2020, 02:06:17 PM
The XFL started today and I was wondering if anyone here is interested in it and has started a thread for the XFL?

I don't know much about this competition being Australian lol but I am looking at placing some bets. Any tips would be welcomed either in here or in a new thread.


Shit, I didn't know the league started. I'm going to check out the games tomorrow.

https://www.reddit.com/r/XFLstreams/comments/f0xllu/game_thread_la_wildcats_vs_houston_roughnecks/

For some reason I just can't really get into other sports, including other versions of football. I have a hard time sitting through a college football game, for instance. So I'll be just kind of sportless until August rolls around.

The Super Bowl was on a local TV channel here for some odd reason -- watched the whole thing (again) packed into 2 hours, halftime show included. It has to be one of the most expensively-produced Super Bowls ever. There was easily over a hundred dancers/singers/musicians involved in the halftime show. Then with all the theatrics, smoke and fireworks and everything -- the whole production probably cost more than that of many countries' annual GDP.

Well folks, I think I'm gonna call it a wrap. Thanks to contributing to this thread throughout the season. I might unlock this thread for the next season, but will probably just start a new one. Hope to see you all there in August!
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