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5401  Economy / Speculation / Re: Investing Advice PLEASE :-) on: June 03, 2016, 11:14:13 AM
with $4000 i would go all in with buying bitcoin, with that much money you can only buy 7.4BTC and then after that you can only hold it for the halving rise or you can also invest some part of that (like 2BTC) in altcoin markets for additional profit.
5402  Other / Off-topic / Re: if you have the 10 BTC where you want to spend it on: June 03, 2016, 10:58:44 AM

if you have the 10 BTC where you want to spend it?  Wink

well, 10 BTC is about $5400 is a large amount of money which i don't plan on spending these days. i am mostly planning on something big in my life and that is why i am only saving money. so if i had 10BTC i would have held it for the price rise to spend it then so i get the maximum potential out of it.
5403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's stopping people from using bitcoin? on: June 03, 2016, 10:53:54 AM
I think bitcoin is actually more secure than a lot of other payment gateways. Rather, I think it's the bad image that has been cast over what bitcoin is used for that is creating doubts over the public about the morality of bitcoin.

For example, bitcoin is used for buying drugs. The public thinks that is all bitcoin is used for, and therefore they don't use it because they think it's illegal.

i agree. sadly the media has always been mostly against bitcoin especially whenever it is in their favor and most of the time they are just spreading the negative news because it is hot.

and this negative publicity is one of the biggest obstacles in front of bitcoin.
5404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: some say bitcoin only until 2030? on: June 03, 2016, 10:50:29 AM
anything that is being said here is just pure speculation. you can only talk about near future when the network and everything else is still the same (like 2-3 years after today) and you can't give any certain prediction of 2030 which is ~14 years from now.
5405  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will you do if you own 21 BTC? on: June 02, 2016, 06:39:52 AM
I invest 1 btc in altcoins but 20 btc l hold in my wallet when price will rise in the future:-)
you need a good division for a good investment I think not too much to allocate to investments in altcoin. because of fluctuations in altcoin greater than bitcoin and it is a substantial risk for your money. so it seems allocate 1 BTC only is enough to invest in altcoin

yes but it depends on what you are planning to achieve and how good you are in trading. for example i have seen people who have invested more than 50BTC into trading altcoins only in one of their exchanger accounts. if you know the tricks you can invest bigger and earn bigger too. but as a start you should always start with the minimum amount.
5406  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: June 02, 2016, 06:35:56 AM
Go to HashOcean Share 0.3 mr

No, and no and totally no.

Cloudmining no way, and no thanks. 0.3 mr? I rather just go to a gambling site and do 1 90% roll and be done.

Then move on to the winnings to trade back to invest for ETH then take my chances there then touching new sites.

Cloudmining are not even worth to invest a single penny. investing 7btc in cloudmining is like you just throw away your money yourself and don't need them.. suggesting this make you an Idiot. looks like you don't know that cloudmining sites are just ponzi, and if one or two are paying then they paying very less.

yeah, i don't know why there is a lot of advertising this new cloudmining service! none the predecessors could make people any money before that and there is no difference here either.
especially if you are looking for a big profit like 10BTC on your investment as OP has started.
5407  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: June 02, 2016, 06:32:23 AM
In my eyes holding is very good these days because the fact is that the price is gonna rise and because of that you can make a lot of money.

holding has always been a good option. because we are still in the time when bitcoin is still considered cheap and if you are a long term investor in bitcoin you know that these prices are just too small when comparing them to the real value of bitcoin in a couple of years into the future when there is mass adoption.
5408  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: TinderBTC (claims 0.1% profit per hour on btc investment): Scam or Legit? on: June 02, 2016, 06:27:01 AM
I saw an advertisement for TinderBTC as a comment on a facebook post by Trezor. I'd like to know if anyone here has heard of them or invested yet.

They advertise a 0.1% per hour return with a minimum investment of 1 satoshi. This works out to 72% per 30 days (or 103.7% if compounded daily). It looks like they take a 5% cut immediately (determined by using their profit calculator, and their referral program is a 5% cut so this would make sense)

It's immediately triggered my "too good to be true" sense. My initial reaction is that it's either a complete scam or, at best, a Ponzi scheme.

What do you all think?

i have never heard of them but here are the RED flags that i see in what you have described:
0.1% per hour
a minimum investment of 1 satoshi
generally i say anything that is too good to be true is a scam unless proven otherwise. and this looks like a scam specially since they have such a small amount as minimum they want maximum number of victims.

They claim the minimum withdrawal is 0.0003btc so anyone can test it for USD$0.16

well, that's the way they get ya!
you deposit small and withdraw small too, it doesn't matter for a scammer to spend 16 cents and it won't make you rich either but you will think they are legit so deposit bigger and that's the time they run away!

every ponzi scheme works like this, you pay a couple of people and then stop after they get more investors.
5409  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: TinderBTC (claims 0.1% profit per hour on btc investment): Scam or Legit? on: June 02, 2016, 06:15:10 AM
I saw an advertisement for TinderBTC as a comment on a facebook post by Trezor. I'd like to know if anyone here has heard of them or invested yet.

They advertise a 0.1% per hour return with a minimum investment of 1 satoshi. This works out to 72% per 30 days (or 103.7% if compounded daily). It looks like they take a 5% cut immediately (determined by using their profit calculator, and their referral program is a 5% cut so this would make sense)

It's immediately triggered my "too good to be true" sense. My initial reaction is that it's either a complete scam or, at best, a Ponzi scheme.

What do you all think?

i have never heard of them but here are the RED flags that i see in what you have described:
0.1% per hour
a minimum investment of 1 satoshi
generally i say anything that is too good to be true is a scam unless proven otherwise. and this looks like a scam specially since they have such a small amount as minimum they want maximum number of victims.
5410  Other / Off-topic / Re: On my way out... on: June 02, 2016, 06:11:28 AM
dude you need serious professional help. go talk to a psychologist both about your gambling problem and the fact that you are considering suicide because of losing $5000.

we all make mistakes in our lives some are big and some are small, you have to learn from your mistakes and try not to repeat them not give up!
5411  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: June 02, 2016, 06:04:47 AM
My initial goal when know Bitcoin is because of the speed and kindness in the transaction, but once I see more about Bitcoin goal now I not only to get the transaction/facilities of fast and cheap, but also to find a pretty good profit, namely investing for a long time and for currency, because the project is still in the stage of the Bitcoin introduction and after Bitcoin already up on the highest stage (FIX) then the price will be higher Bitcoin from now on.

yeah, also make sure to look at services like gyft which offer good discounts or gift cards at a very low rate. that way you can even save up more money just by using bitcoin.
5412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: June 02, 2016, 06:02:18 AM
That's responsible gaming the way it should be.
Exactly, safe does not mean that you don't lose your money in gambling as gambling is really risky in reality. You have two chances of losing and winning money. For me, the only safe method in gambling is the basic sayings "do not bet what you can't afford to lose", because if you do that it will be the start of you addiction and it is a recipe for disaster.

Indeed you have to set a limit so you will not go over it, you need to stop when you hit this limit.
If you just set some rules for yourself gambling can be safe on that way.

If you can do this it will be a lot more safe, I honestly find it hard to do this because when you are doing this you are thinking again and again that you can do it one more time.. and so you go till you lost a lot of money.

you can put all your funds in cold storage so it would be hard for you to deposit and only make small deposit suitable for you, the amount that you want to gamble with, then it is not so hard to limit yourself to that fund because depositing again is harder.
5413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: June 02, 2016, 05:58:10 AM
If I were rich I would keep a bitcoin wallet just for gambling which I would top up whenever I feel like it, but I would set a topup limit. I would use a separate bitcoin account because I can control how much I spend and I wouldn't want to have access to all my funds or a lot of them because I might be stupid one day and get very greedy and gamble all of it away. I wouldn't make it so easy for myself tomtopup either. So I would gamble but only smaller amount to pay for things without blowing the whole lot. 
At least you are being responsible, we know that we have a good plan right here when we become rich because we are just poor or at least living at an average life right now, but I am wondering if ever we are gonna be rich, can we still follow what we are saying here?
Even after you are being calculative and very much conscious with your bitcoins, still your plan may not work with your gambling to make you rich.

As long as you are ready to top up your wallet to load your bankroll with gambling, you will need to do that very often and almost every day, which will signal you that you are not moving towards your target of being rich.

you can only get rich if you are the owner of the gambling site. if you run a good casino which is fair and only if you can make it popular enough you can actually earn a lot of money from it because there is always a lot of people who will come and play with lots of money which they will lose eventually sot the casino owner can earn all those money.
5414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: LUCK!!! :) How does it feels? on: June 02, 2016, 05:52:35 AM
good luck rarely happens to me especially a good luck that can lead to a good amount of money won never happens to me, maybe i am unlucky but i have never had the experience of winning big time like hitting the jackpot or winning in dice when i set the multiplier so big.
5415  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: earn btc on: June 02, 2016, 05:49:52 AM
Buy 3 account with member rank or more and use signature campaigns to earn them

that will only lead to more posts so the quality of your posts will be lowered which will lead to spamming and finally getting banned from the signature campaigns by the manager or even getting banned from the forum.
5416  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 02, 2016, 05:42:37 AM
I go fo GOLD,
Gold is jewelry and jewelry is always appreciating unlike bitcoin is not that stable and there is always a fluctuation on its price.
But you also have a profit in bitcoin specially in trading.


well for me i appreciate bitcoin more than gold.  the good thing about gold is they last forever unlike bitcoin when you lost your wallet they are lost forever.

You got that right. Grin For a bitcoin starter and never got in to gold then it is really bitcoin which they will pick. But if you invested in gold from the start you would really pick that one. Gold jewelries can help in just manner of time. In emergency you could pawn it or even sell it to a human to human trade which is really the faster way. For they know that gold is valuable. Try doing that using bitcoin you will be denied.

well, i think having gold as jewelries is a different story. that is just two birds with one stone you both invest in gold while using it too.
that is why gold is such a popular investment among everybody even those who are not so much into investments.
5417  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is trading just a form of gambling? on: June 02, 2016, 05:35:47 AM
I think it can be considered as gambling but its not really gambling on the other hand, I think its for a part is but for the other part not at all because it has a lot of other functions.

many people are doing it like gambling but it is the wrong way of trading. and them using it the wrong way doesn't mean trading is gambling! it means you should not invest without knowing about the future of your investment, if you are buying something (bitcoin or altcoin) and just hoping it goes up that would be gambling but if you buy them at a price that is good and when you think they can go up based on your analysis it means you are trading.
5418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would you do if after a year bitcoin replaces all the world currencies? on: June 02, 2016, 05:30:55 AM
you gotta stop thinking about ifs and also stop thinking about getting rich quickly by just holding bitcoin. start seeing how good bitcoin is in comparison to fiat and use it more as a currency.

this way of thinking is the main reason why the market can change this much (volatility) people are hoping to get rich so they start buying, the a wave of FUD hits the media so they all panic and start selling then it is reversed so they panic again and start buying.

in the end these people are only losing money because of the way they think.
5419  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim Bitcoiner on: June 02, 2016, 05:18:24 AM
Assalamualaikum everyone..
I am Muslim and i have been using bitcoin for several months. I just learn bitcoin and i saw many a lot of devious scheme to earn bitcoin. Just like HYIP, PONZI, Gambling, Bet etc.I am very afraid of RIBA. therefore, for guidance and assistance will be appretiated

Thanks Grin Grin Grin

bitcoin is money
these ways you mentioned here are just some not so famous ways of earning bitcoin and AFAIK none of them are RIBA although things like gambling are prohibited by the religious rules

p.s. you shouldn't ask these things here, if you are a real Muslim you should ask you r Marja!!
5420  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where to invest my BTC on: June 02, 2016, 05:07:54 AM
there is no reliable way of investing bitcoin, all the methods are either bad or scammy. the best option for earning a profit from bitcoin is trading and even trading is not 100% reliable because the risks of trading aside there is always a risk of exchanger running away with your money.
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