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5441  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 11:00:25 PM
Yes it will be pirated with and without DRM, but that will not prevent the Magazine for being successful.

That to me smells of speculation. If it were even remotely true, people wouldn't be using DRM in the first place.


On the other hand if I have to license specific propriety software and / or hardware from Microsoft, Apple, Amazon etc in order to be able to read it for a limited time, [...] than I am not.

We won't have a time limit. You bought what you bought. It's yours. Time limits used to be used as a way to help differ hosting costs, but when the file is a download to your mobile phone for example, why would we care?

The whole plan is not crystal clear yet to me either as I am rather new to this. I will tell you that we are planning for:

  • iTunes newsstand
  • Android
  • Kindle
  • BitcoinMagazine.net direct view

I haven't checked yet, but I have reason to believe none of those purchasing mediums would give you a timeline, and even if they did (like what, a whole year?) we would just give it to you again for free on request.

If that's not good enough, then we're arguing about free vs paid and we go back to my original statement that we simply haven't figured it out yet. We need to gauge interest, pay for printing+shipping, then we can see about making things better for everyone involved.

I really appreciate your passion and if you have any suggestions, I am more than willing to play Devil's Advocate.
5442  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 10:41:53 PM

We have corrected the bug that caused the country information to get dropped.  For those that have already ordered, you can either send an email to support@bit-pay.com with your invoice URL and your country, or we'll contact you (if we cannot determine your country ourselves).


Thanks Steven! Appreciate following up!
5443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 09:48:51 PM
Has anyone uploaded the digital copy to a Torrent site yet?   Grin  Grin
And actually, I was curious about this Matthew - what stance will you take on piracy?  Are you fine with people sharing the digital copy with each other, knowing that it will happen regardless?  Or are you going to attempt to fight it somehow?

I don't represent everyone at the magazine or BitTalk Media with the following comment, so take this with a grain of salt.

I personally think that if we have a magazine that is easily stealable, then it deserves to be stolen. We're not going to be giving out a pdf file for example.

On another note, I believe in the power of community. The only people ripping this magazine off would be those with absolutely no money and no thought of supporting the magazine- in which case they have their reasons and I appreciate that.

There is a dangerous line between print and digital though, and I want to make sure that the actions of digital release never complicate the print release. I have no problem with giving the digital away for absolutely free-- it's the fact that we'd have no revenue to print the physical issues that would be the problem.

Whatever we decide, everyone will find out at the same time as we're planning on Android, iPhone and general Web releases as well. I am also very open to suggestions for how to handle it (please, nothing like "Pay with a Tweet") and still keep the magazine alive.

5444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 09:45:11 PM
You said it ships on Feb 1st, so we could be expecting it Feb 2nd through... Feb 9th for US customers?

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This one is scheduled for February release.

That's all I've said so far. I would never hammer it to an exact day. I learned by lesson with the BitTalk.TV Christmas Special.
5445  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 09:34:42 PM
Ordered the first issue. When I selected my country from the list and pressed the save changes, it reverted to USA, what I did was I wrote the country in the Region box, selected my country from the dropdown, saved, selected from the dropdown again, and then ordered. Hopefully that will work.

Yea, that seems simple enough.  Roll Eyes @ Bit-pay
5446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 09:29:51 PM
This looks great. I just ordered two copies.
I've never used bit-pay.com before, but I have a few problems:

First order was payed using the Schildbach wallet, and it deducted the bitcoins, but bit-pay still timed out. Realizing that if I get four copies instead of two that's fine, so I went ahead and ordered two more and using bitcoin spinner this time, the payment cleared and I got the confirmation email, but my address in the confirmation does not include the country (Denmark). Is this normal?

Looking foreward to my two (four) copies, and best of luck with future issues.

Thank you for bringing this issue up. I will forward this for you to Stephen@bit-pay.com. We have absolutely no control over issues that arise with Bit-pay and they seem to be working very quickly to fix any problems we're having so I suggest everyone just e-mail Stephen directly at that e-mail address the next time there is an issue.

Thanks guys.
5447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 09:12:18 PM
Looks well formatted. I just get a godaddy parking page when I click the link you provided though.

Get off godaddy.

#NoDaddy

Use namecheap.com (AntiSOPA) or internet.bs (sends DMCA to you, ignores threats)



+1

GoDaddy supported SOPA, boycott.

I didn't use GoDaddy. Where does it say GoDaddy? I have used Cinfu to register all domains except for Bitcoinmagazine, which I did not purchase myself. Are you suggesting I pay the money to transfer it out of the current registrar and over to CINFU?

5448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:41:13 PM
Thanks!

EDIT: If it's not showing your country at all then I'll need to communicate to Bit-pay about it. Which country is it not showing?

Gosh,

just ordered a copy, I'm from Italy, my country was not shown either, but I thought it was just a "cosmetic" problem since there was a drop down menu to input one's country.

Tell me please if I have to PM you my address!

Regards.

spiccioli.




Send a copy of your invoice URL and your problem to stephen@bit-pay.com

He will assist you in updating your records. Thank you!
5449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:39:01 PM
Simply change it to your country and it will be sufficient.
i thought this too, but on the next page (after confirming the payment, where the btc address is), just city and state was part of my address, and the country was missing.
however, i can enter the country as the state, in my case that doesn't matter.

The international order form does not accept a different country than USA. When I change it, it switches back to USA, and the bit-pay invoice does not list the country at all.

I've alerted Stephen of Bit-Pay. I'll update when I am updated. Thanks for reporting this error!

5450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
Just ordered a copy Smiley

Awesome!
5451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:04:35 PM
I was going to order a physical copy for myself in the UK but the country field is still defaulting to US and when I click checkout it's not showing my country at all. Please fix this so I can get one ordered please! Smiley

I was going to order a physical copy for myself in the UK but the country field is still defaulting to US and when I click checkout it's not showing my country at all. Please fix this so I can get one ordered please! Smiley

Several others have commented on this. The 'default' location has nothing to do with your location. Simply change it to your country and it will be sufficient. At the moment Bit-pay doesn't seem to offer a shipping/pricing module so I am just charging $3 to cover most costs. We will probably eat a loss on that eventually if enough people order it from Cairo, but I am more concerned in the first month with just getting it out the door.

Thanks!

EDIT: If it's not showing your country at all then I'll need to communicate to Bit-pay about it. Which country is it not showing?
5452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:00:43 PM
Look at all these unanswered posts. That's what I get for going to sleep once in a while.

First, I need to answer a serious issue in the community--- privacy.

SgtSpike is right. We could easily be a scam trying to get mailing addresses and real names of bitcoiners. And even if we're not, the security of that confidential data is extremely important is it not? Now rather than put all this on my shoulders at this moment (usually Vladimir handles our security) I will say that if you are ordering through e-Mail, your e-mail is only seen by myself, Mihai Alisie, and Google documents servers. If you are ordering through Bit-pay, it is only seen by me and Tony of Bit-pay. That should be enough but I understand if a security and anonymity conscious community requires more from me. I am absolutely all ears on this one. Any advice?


Bbit (although surely jesting) is wrong. I am not going anywhere. I enjoy trolling low standards far too much to ever leave the world of Bitcoin. I also have shared my personal, banking, address, etc information with 50+ individuals in our organization, the Digital Commerce Advancement Organization (http://dcao.org). So if I ever did something stupid, Vladimir Marchenko, Ken Armitt, Zhou Tong, Arthur Britto, Roger Ver, Stefan Thomas, Charlie Shrem, Jay Shore, Erik Vorhees, Mihai Alisie, Nuri hodges, Slush, Steven Wagner, 40+ others would not only know where I live, but they'd know exactly how to hurt me the most.


And finally, Holliday and others have brought up a good point about the bitcoins paid to us. Our printing fees are in USD, not BTC. We WILL transfer the bitcoins out to USD as soon as we receive them. Anyone who has run a magazine before will understand this without explanation. This is also why our fees are denoted in USD and not BTC.


We're really excited to provide this magazine to the public and I personally won't be getting any rest until it's done.


P.S. As a troll, I understand the dangers of letting a forum thread go without the OP constantly nurturing it. I'll be here to answer any questions, openly, honestly and transparently, even if I need to use style="opacity:0.4;".

Thanks!
5453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:55:56 AM
I forget who said it, but there was a comedian who said that you haven't made it until your have a magazine devoted to your race/class/cause/etc. Funny that it might actually be true still today.

Is it possible to order a copy for a friend?

Of course! You can pay now effortlessly through BitPay on our site as well.


http://bitcoinmagazine.net
5454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:43:26 AM
If Bitcoin ever takes off mainstream, this will be a collectors item akin to original Elvis memorabilia.  First volume of first season of first Bitcoin magazine ever printed?  Heck yes...  Especially with the low qty first edition print.

Just ordered a printed copy.  If it comes wrapped in plastic, I'm not sure I'll have the heart to open it.  Good thing it comes with a digital copy too.  Tongue

Best of luck with the magazine.  I hope it succeeds in high enough numbers to continue on longer than the prior attempt at a Bitcoin publication.

@ istar - To some extent, I agree with you.  OTOH, a stark cover like this will draw attention to it very quickly when it is seated among racks of magazines all garnering for a person's attention.  You know what they say - any publicity is good publicity.  Or something like that.  At any rate, I think at this stage in the game, it's still more about getting the word out there than making it look good.  Making people curious about it should be the #1 priority.

Someone has in fact asked me to provide them with a Mylar plastic wrapping and a certificate of authenticity of first printing ever of the #1 issue, but this kind of thing would require a much different arrangement and we're currently looking into it. This individual in question offered 1BTC more for the special service, but I am not so sure that would cover the costs.

I will find out.
5455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:41:51 AM
...

All perfectly good viewpoints that have been discussed thoroughly in our team. We recognize that in Brazil for example, this particular issue may never see a store window for obvious reasons. On the other hand, if I were new to bitcoin, I'd still pick this up on the front cover alone, and that was the main reasoning behind choosing such a provocative and well known image-- not to mention Bitcoin, Satoshi, Pirate Party and Anonymous all pretty much have a lot to do with each other anyway as far as I'm concerned.


Please make next issue focus on the positive sides that are accepted by the public.


It can feature ... Hitler

I appreciate your advice and I am a very outspoken person without fear of repercussions, but as long as I am Editor of the magazine, I'd prefer an Anonymous cover over Hitler anyday.

And is that an interview with Satoshi?
You'll have to wait and see!

5456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:36:26 AM
Nice work, a successful magazine will certainly add to credibility. Good luck, and I look forward to reading it.

Thank you! Much appreciated!

BTW, how does one access the digital copy? was I supposed to register on the site before buying it?

The digital copy does not support pre-orders on Bit-Pay, so I can only allow for that to be used after it is able to be downloaded immediately after. You can of cours get a free digital copy with the print copy as well.

Thank you!
5457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 08:04:09 AM
I just saw the Page One movie about the New York Times and print media in general being slowly but surely destroyed by the internet and social media. It's a great irony that the cryptocurrency of the future is staking out space in media's past. I look forward to reading the magazine if and when it gets down to my local B&N. Would it help if I call the store and demand that they carry it?

It is ironic, isn't it? People who say paper is dead and cryptocurrency rulez tend to say so while holding a casascius coin in their pocket. Humans can't help but be attracted to the tangible.


Good work on actually making it happen! Hopefully the cover stories being on pages 24 and 28 are not indicative of there being 23 pages of crap before them.

The cover shot is just a sample of what's to come. The numbers is not correct, and the lineup might change slightly as well as we finalize the last segments.

5458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 07:38:07 AM
This is awesome!

The easter-egg idea is inspired as well.

Unfortunately, the easter-egg idea, while great from a promotional standpoint, doesn't put bitcoins into the hands of very many people.

I think the best way to convince people of the power of bitcoin is to let them play with it, like the old bitcoin faucet did.  The bitcoin faucet failed primarily because it was too easy for jerks to automate requests for bitcoins and suck the faucet dry.  But, if you are actually charging people money for a product, and give them a small amount of BTC as an added bonus, you shouldn't have to worry too much about chargebacks.  You can make the monetary value of the BTC to be small enough that it wouldn't be worth the hassle of actually ordering a subscription just to grab the bitcoins. Rather, their only real worth would be the entertainment value of trying out something new and different.

As such, I think it would be really cool if every magazine subscription was associated with a unique private key from which a person could claim a small amount of bitcoins, say ฿0.01 every month.  For example, you could generate a private key from the subsciber's name and address.  Or, you could print a QR code with a private key on the address label.  Alternately, you might find it easier to have them log into the magazine's website with their subscription ID, and have the site send them some BTC directly.


It is a good idea. One of our colleagues has already recommended something similar-- wrapping the magazines in plastic, placing a small bitcoin code sticker on the inside and having that be a small bitcoin reward. I believe this kind of bonus should be considered mandatory to a cryptocurrency magazine. The real problem then lies in our pricing. We have just sold over 100 issues at $6. If adding the plastics, the stickers, etc, raises the price to $7 per issue, would that still be worth it to those 100 readers? How about the other 1,900 we are marketing to?

I'm all ears to ideas, and I pride myself on being a solution maker-- but this one is a no-go for February in the least. I look forward to the day when we have 50,000+ issues being sold regularly and the cost of doing so is so low that we can give away anything we like.

Help us get there!
5459  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 07:07:18 AM
Matthew, if your magazine content is as rude and arrogant as your forum posts this should drive the publics opinion of bitcoin right into the ground.

However, at first glance it looks well put together.. I'll be buying the first issue to check it out. Hopefully it's a success for you and the bitcoin project.

I do know how to troll, that's true. This magazine is serious business though. There is a clear difference in my mind between the two. If you can tell, there were a few 'easter eggs' in the 3rd page alone. That kind of thing will always exist so long as I have anything to say about it. Life should be fun. Thank you for giving it a chance just the same and judging the project on its merits and not by its producer.
5460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will change Bitcoin as you know it. on: January 25, 2012, 07:06:17 AM
After processing 117 124 issue orders through e-mail, I decided to just start using Bit-Pay until I get our own backend up and running.

Subscribers can now just click the "Bitcoin Order Now" button corresponding to their choice and streamline the process much easier.
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