Bitcoin was designed to pay without any third party. As simple as that.
From here on everybody can make his own use case and everybody has to pay attention that the other party of the deal/transaction is not malicious/scammer.



Unfortunately far too many have also proven that they cannot be careful with their keys, they cannot be careful with their funds, they cannot make any (financial) step without having support and insurance.

* I didn't follow BCash hence I didn't know whether that was implemented. Possibly OP also didn't, hence it's good that you've mentioned that.
* it can be seen as a hypothetical question for other forks, especially if by chance OP knew that this was implemented in BCash

Inseamna ca eu sunt cel care intelesese gresit ce ai scris acolo si spunem - in mod diferit - cam acelasi lucru.
Numai ca in loc sa zic ca Evomag cauta sa lucreze direct cu BitPay, de exemplu, am zis ca BitPay cauta sa lucreze direct cu Evomag, ceea ce, imi dau seama acum, e pe dos si tu ai zis bine.

Se pare ca este ceva neintelegere aici, o s aincerc sa o clarific.. sper:
Bitcoin nu este forked dupa nimic. Bitcoin este sursa pentru alte forkuri si clone.
Bitcoin este un program pe calculator. Acest program este din timp in timp imbunatatit si apar versiuni mai noi. Ultima a fost botezata 22.00, asa cum ultimul Windows este 11 (si ceva).

Prin imbunatatiri a aparut SegWit, tot prin imbunatatiri o sa fie Taproot anul acesta, dar astea deja sunt detalii.
Faptul ca este imbunatatit nu inseamna neaparat ca s-a facut fork. Unele au produs, intr-adevar, si (soft) fork in retea, dar prea putine au avut acest efect. Si in asemenea cazuri (soft fork) majoritatea comunitatatii a decis ca respectivele modificari sunt ok. (S-a incercat si soft fork pentru blocuri mai mari si nu a fost acceptat de comunitate.)
Deci revin: versiune = imbunatatire, nu neaparat fork.

Sorry, I disagree. I think that the price and the hoarding are more related to the (perceived) scarcity than usefulness.
And that's what I try to express, but maybe I'm failing to do that, or maybe I'm wrong. I guess that we have to agree that we disagree on this and just move on 
Thanks for the attempt to clear it up though.

The price of gold has nothing to do with its usefulness, it's more related to the hoarding of gold by banks, states, ...
And I see this similar with bitcoin too: I don't think that those hoarding it as a store of value would care much whether bitcoin is used as a currency or not, as long as they can use it as an asset, even if not traded so often (and bitcoin price is also a result of hoarding more than actual usage).

And with the rise of LN, with far too many keeping their coins in custodian wallets, the users who want to spend may soon not even use bitcoin, they may use IOUs without knowing it.

Wouldn't it "steal" those BCH.. by moving them to your (new, safe) bitcoin address?  

All the proper tutorials about claiming fork coins tell this:
before claiming the fork coin - no matter if it means to send the fork coins to an exchange or other operations - the very first step is to move your bitcoin into a new safe wallet.
This is necessary not only because of mirroring tx. This is also necessary because the fork coin wallet may be malicious, for example.

I find this funny. I guess that they're extensively logging users' every step if the logs have became too big to handle 
I guess that the logs filled up some disk space that was shared with other services involved in withdrawals - I don't exclude an instance of bitcoin core either.


If people would go more by this and would keep at exchanges only small funds for short time, they would not freak out for every announcement like this. I wish to see those days...

Parerea mea este ca multi evita pt ca devine scump pentru cumparator. Nu multi sunt de acord sa dea 8-10% extra doar pt ca sa plateasca cu bitcoin.
In plus, ce il opreste pe procesatorul bitcoin sa faca peste cativa ani direct contract cu magazinul? Ar putea scadea adaosul de bitcoin la jumatate...


Pai nu am cumparat crypto. Am cumparat cu crypto. 

Restul detaliilor le aflasem, dar asta cu blockchain propriu cumva imi scapase. Dar nu am sapat, ca ma enervasem.. 


Eee, de astea se intampla chiar si fara sa dispara tickerul original. Capcana cu zahar e pusa, sunt doar asteptate mustele...

Cand faceti miscarea, sa-mi dati si mie un semn; o sa incerc sa contribui si eu un pic.


Eu am facut chestii de astea cu taxi traditional, dar de la magazin (de obicei farmacie) la mine acasa, inca dinainte sa fie pe la noi Glovo & Co.
Variante acum exista, sa vedem si daca IonCreanga (mai) e in Bucuresti sau nu.

Tails can work without persistent storage at all. You keep your seed on a paper and you're good.
I don't think that Windows can do that. And in 10 years you'll forget why that old PC was never online, you'll sell it and somebody may recover the wallet.

Of course, it can be seen as an extreme example, but it's you who has to think on the full use case. On short term, as long as neither will ever go online, there's not much of a difference.
On Windows you may have to also set it to not auto-start USB devices if you plan to use an USB stick for transferring unsigned/signed transactions. To avoid surprises...

Sure. All the pharmacies, and gas stations, and shops that had for you cards where you gathered reward points. Those were basically tokens in a database and you were able to exchange them back for "value" and buy something.
Lately supermarkets and credit cards also have that. I don't know which were introduced first though, in my country pharmacies and gas stations did it first.

My post was also contained the part "and that's what you are using", i.e. other parts were also rewritten, and being rewritten with every new thing he's doing on his PC (of course, depending on the OS and software).
Of course, the bigger the HDD, the better the chance the old files can be recovered, but he should stop using that HDD.

2 of his 3 applications are in bounties where the managers themselves are red-tagged.
I see there some sort of "infinite loop" and the red tag seems to be a "detail" too many just ignore, as long as they may(or may not) earn a few extra dollars here and there.

I think that somehow more than red tag is needed, but I'm not sure what, since all the ideas I can think of are against the forum's policy vs "freedom of speech", so I won't express them

It depends on country's legislation. In some countries the exchanges may also auto-report to authorities for monitoring their users' income.
I don't know though how it works and who is complying.


I think that https://oxt.me/ may also be worthy for the list. It looks more up-to-date than walletexplorer, especially for the new transactions.

While his point may have been that if you want to spend, you better spend fiat and keep the bitcoins, he should have also emphasize that he also spends bitcoin, just because he is a model, a trend setter.


Not necessarily. Gold is also a store of value and it's being used only as an asset, bitcoin may also go on this path. I don't say it's a good direction, I only say that it's possible. And it won't make it worthless/pointless.


In 10 years from now people may spend Satoshi or sub-units of that. Bitcoin can still function as a currency, the 8 digits after the decimal point is a lot.
It all depends whether people will still spend or will be convinced to just HODL.

I also think that you should get some professional help and if possible, under your supervision (to avoid stealing; keep in mind that anyone who has your keys can spend the coins).
You seem to confuse terms here - for example bitcoin core doesn't use seed phrase, HDDs are not flashed - and somebody may have to actually try to see what you have there.

First thing is that the HDD where you had all that have to not be started. If you installed a new operating system on it and that's what you are using, the chances for recovery are slim.

Cred ca m-ai inteles gresit. Nu ma refeream la investitie. Ma refeream strict la minat. Monede noi, dar nu foarte noi, fiindca au ajuns deja sa fie tranzactionate.
Ideea e ca nu vei putea trimite la tranzactionat fiecare block reward (mai ales la pool mining), o sa strangi ca o suma minima, ca altfel platforma de tranzactionare nu te baga in seama. Si pana faci asta, pretul poate sa pice urat (am patit, si nu doar o data)
Ce spui tu se aplica la cele foarte noi, care inca nu sunt tranzactionate. Acolo da, este 100% loto.


De fapt investitorii se uita dupa echipa, ca spera ca le va da o imagine daca proiectul este serios sau nu. Bineinteles, si un proiect serios poate sa pice... Dar in prima faza toti cauta cate un indiciu sa vada daca au sanse de castig sa nu zica ca au investit "in orb" (desi cam asta fac si se mint singuri)


Da si nu. Cei care au dezvoltat moneda au minat de la inceput (sa nu vb despre cazurile cand si-au rezervat de la inceput monede). Ei au posibilitatea sa miste pretul. Ei au putere de convingere. Codul din spatele monedei evolueaza si ei pot sa aiba un cuvant greu de spus in ce modificari se aduc.
Si eu cunosc monede care au disparut. Nu mai exista niciun nod viabil. Desi unii pot sa mai aiba blockchain-ul local dupa atatia ani, nu se conecteaza intre ei, nu mineaza nimeni, moneda a fost delistata de la platformele de schimb.. parctic nu mai exista.


Am incercat sa le dau o sansa. Dar nu am urmarit fiecare pas. Si m-am trezit ca a aparut EGLD is ERD nu mai exista si va fi delistat. Am vandut si gata.
La nivel de marketing si contracte stau binisor. Poate ca vor avea o sansa. Investitional, cred ca inca sund cu mult sub ce aduce bitcoin.
Dar fazele astea ca bitcoin e primitiv si ethereum e pe moarte sunt pentru aia care nu se uita un pic in jur. Intre marketing si spalare pe creier mai sunt ceva pasi...


Corect. La ambele.