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5461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your gambling system? on: February 07, 2020, 11:28:22 AM
would be lovely to see a spreadsheet comparring win rates between different strategies.


Every single system despite "triple bet after loss instead of double" was worse than regular martingale and literally every system was worse than single bet system (all your wallet in 1 bet. Double or go home broken). So i don't see a reason to use them/rank then in spreadsheet. They are all worthless.

As Haunebu said. Using systems will only boost your fun factor if you like it.

Using systems is better than gambling randomly in my opinion primarily for the sake of fun.

makes sense
so is it a consensus that triple bet should be the new martingale?

so interesting how simmilar risk management is in trading and in gambling
even being different and trading having the need of more skill than gamblers, risk management could be applied to both, starting from the basics of never investing more than you're ok with losing to more advanced concepts.
5462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ETH-based descentralized casinos on: February 07, 2020, 11:25:44 AM
With the raise of DeFi and solutions like Pooltogether I wonder how I haven't seen some ETH casinos with good reputation where you can simply connnect your wallet via metamask and play games.

are there solutions like that alreadyor nobody came up with it?




So far there are no popular gambling sites like that any eth developer can do that for the Eth community but if you are a gambling operator you would like to target as many holders as possible and not only investors of Eth so your profit will not be restricted on one community if gamblers it's not profitable for gambler operator then.

ETH's network congestion is to be blamed for that. Inchain gambling is quite famous for Tron and there are many popular gambling dapps on Tron blockchain. Tron of course was intended to act as a gambling token and that's not a surprise. EOS dapps are the next popular in gambling for their agility. And even though being one of the most used coins, there are no successful gambling dapps on Ethereum.

actually even when the network is clogged the fees are not higher than 0.03 USD
there are some gambling dappps but you're right, not many

let's see what the future will bring
a lot can change.
5463  Local / Desenvolvimento & Discussões Técnicas / Re: CriptoArbitragem - Um aplicativo para notificação de oportunidades de arbitragem on: February 07, 2020, 09:33:43 AM
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olha, com a volatilidade de crypto seria loucura esperar 3 dias pra concluir uma arbitragem, não?
só se for uma ordemque ja tá muito fora do preço das outras exchanges pra valer a pena, acho

seria bom ouvir a experiência de outros users mas pra Bisq em si me parece inviavel.
Até seria possivel realizar a arbitragem, mas seria necessário travar o preço por meio de algum instrumento de derivativo para se evitar a volatilidade. Apenas compensaria se a ordem fosse de tamanho relevante.

interessante.pode explicar melhor como funcionaria?

isso seria feito utilizando ferramentas já existentes no mercado?

entendode arbitragem mas não 100%
sempre escutei que a forma profissional de fazer é ter 2 balanços em cada exchange, nos pares que vc quer arbitrar
EX: USDT/BTC
sendo 50/50 em cada uma

Estilo uniswap pool.
5464  Local / Brasil / Re: Sobre o halving e as expectativas on: February 07, 2020, 09:30:51 AM

referente às possíveis manipulações.
eu também gosto das teorias de conspiraçao mas as reservas do theter não foram auditadas e tudo estava ok?

https://www.coindesk.com/documents-suggest-tether-has-fiat-funds-to-back-stablecoin-report

Isso desbancaria a ideia de que o tether estaria simplesmente imprimindo moeda pra inflar o preço do BTC
e então o preço estaria subindo pq pessoas estão comprando, simples assim.
5465  Local / Brasil / Re: Bancos deverão reportar movimentação superiores à R$ 2 mil on: February 07, 2020, 09:27:34 AM


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cara, na real, existe a ética da malandragem sim...

pergunta pra qualquer pessoa que vive na periferia do RJ, a galera confia mais no traficante que na polícia.

uma moça com quem trabalhei me falou:
"os puliça entra na casa, sem nem querer saber, se tiver dinheiro, pega.
abre geladeira, pega as coisas..."

e isso não é um caso isolado.

falta muito caminho pro Brasil ainda....
muito.

Mas ai ambos os casos são malandros. Tanto a "puliça" como a bandidagem. Quanto ao Brasil eu já desisti. Para quem é jovem, o melhor caminho é o aeroporto. Neste país não tem mais solução. Pena que já passei da idade, senão já estaria morando em Portugal.

realmente. tem isso.

Eu sempre tenho esperança mas realmente, o histórico daqui é díficil.
e o povo complicado de abrir a cabeça.
mas tem duas coisas que nenhum lugar tem: o clima e a felicidade.

quanto à idade: nunca é tarde.
5466  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Bitcoin saindo do canal multi-ano. on: February 07, 2020, 09:25:19 AM


nada mal.
conforme o tweet de hoje to ThisIsNuse:
https://twitter.com/ThisIsNuse/status/1225696148867829760?s=20

com essa subida saímos do fundo do canal multi-ano, possível que continue por aqui algum tempo antes de decidir se vai voltar a visitá-lo,mas eu chuto que não voltaremos para ele tão cedo.

o que acham?
5467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often do you gamble? on: February 06, 2020, 01:28:35 PM
Realistically, I don't think it matters how often somebody gambles.

Few people gamble so frequently that they don't have the time to take care of the important things in life, e.g. their job, health and family.

What is more important is how much, as a fraction of the total income that people gamble. Above a certain fraction, this can be considered a problem.

Keep it low guys and enjoy the process!

interesting point of view.
above which fraction would you consider it a problem?
5%?
3%?
maybe even more than 1%?

would it be ok for a person in a given time to gamble with more than 50% or their monthly income?
what if they already have financial freedoom and enough cashflow to pay for all their expenses for the next 15 years?

too many questions
too little time to answer it.
5468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ETH-based descentralized casinos on: February 06, 2020, 01:26:58 PM
The idea is not new. 

Who doesn't like a decentralized form of gambling?

But there is no massive call or demands for that and crypto-gamblers still prefer the usual way which is choosing a much reputable site-deposit-play-withdraw. And to those persons or groups that are planning to build a site like that, gamblers should also see that they are serious in promotions and marketing.
Maybe not on Ethereum platform but they have some gambling dapps, On TRON and EOS they have decent volume with Decentralized Gambling Sites. Just like this one on Tron https://888tron.com/ But of course, do your own research about this site. To OP you can find the full list on https://dappradar.com/
great comment, thanks @LbtalkL
the link with the Dapp list is super usefull and definitely related to what I was talking about.

will look into it
thanks a ton.
5469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Win a Presidential plane... on: February 06, 2020, 01:25:04 PM
That's a lot of money, if he manage to sell those ticket for $25 each he'd get 150M but those average citizens wont probably be interested because they have to spend money to store it, maintenance and pay a pilot to fly it and you'll only get 1 in 6M chance to win it. Why not just do a bidding with airline companies to raise and to sell it much more easily or collect proper taxes from business in their state and eliminate drug cartels that's destroying their economy.


the idea of selling to airline companies is definitely better.
I talked about ho stupid would be to buy an airplane if you can't mantain it on an earlier post on this topic.

regarding eliminating drug cartels: politicians have skin in the game and earn with the prohibition, only effective way to end the war on drugs (which is really stupid, btw), is legalizing and decriminalizing.
5470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your gambling system? on: February 06, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
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that's a really interesting post.
would be lovely to see a spreadsheet comparring win rates between different strategies.

but trust me:
if you find a way that the casino don't have an edge they'll figure it out at some point and change the system.

even if you win, the true winner is always the house.
5471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's in the game, after all? on: February 06, 2020, 01:20:18 PM
it's usually a combination of dopamine hits caused by small wins and excitement on the possibility of "easy money" that keeps people gambling.

thats what they says . being addicted cause by dopamine in the brain  .

small wins dont gives me dopamine but big wins yes . these days i dont feel like gambling when i only have a small money or a small coins on my account .

easy money yes , this what i think of everytime i step on the gambling platform but the hard truth is that the more i think for easy money the harder i can earn because i end up betting huge and loosing pretty quickly .

this is quite amazing about human nature
people will experience dopamine differently.

some have more resistance, some less, so forth and so on.

for some people a small win will feel the same as a big win.
5472  Local / Brasil / Re: Receita Federal cria código pelo qual vai multar quem não declarar Criptos on: February 06, 2020, 01:18:24 PM
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em teoria ninguém "precisa" escolher o caminho do crime, muitas vezes ele só costuma ser uma escolha mais fácil.
o que falta é uma educação que dê noção à quão integrados estamos ao todo (todos somos um) e desenvolvimento com ética.

nesse sentido os sistema construtivistas são muito interessantes (pedagogia waldorf, montessori, etc...)

Pior que muitos tem educação, fizeram boas escolas e sabem direitinho entre o certo e o errado, mas mesmo assim optam pelo lado criminoso. A questão de ética é bem subjetiva. Depende muito do ponto de vista. Uma coisa pode ser ética para uns e não ser ética para outros.

é subjetiva mas tem alguns pontos universais:

ex:
-ninguém defenderia que um inocente deve ser preso
- ninguém defenderia que filhos devem morrer antes dos pais.
- em geral a gente concorda que matar o coleguinha não é legal.

mas outros pontos ficam mais "embaçados":
ex:
- é certo roubar dos ricos para dar aos pobres?

alguns vão afirmar categoricamente que roubar é sempre errado.
outros que aumentando distribuição aumenta a justiça social,então... good karma.

agora, tem uma diferença de saber com a cabeça e com o coração
quem sabe a diferença do bem e do mal no coração não dá golpe nos outros.

não tem subjetividade nisso.

esses dilemas éticos são muito interessantes, valem um tópico por si só.
5473  Local / Brasil / Re: Bancos deverão reportar movimentação superiores à R$ 2 mil on: February 06, 2020, 01:15:14 PM
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eles sempre vão querer abocanhar a parte deles...


Sei que os governos querem sempre abocanhar a "parte deles", mas também não pode deixar a malandragem correr solta. Não existe esse negócio de "ética" para a malandragem, o que eles querem mesmo é a grana.  Shocked Shocked


cara, na real, existe a ética da malandragem sim...

pergunta pra qualquer pessoa que vive na periferia do RJ, a galera confia mais no traficante que na polícia.

uma moça com quem trabalhei me falou:
"os puliça entra na casa, sem nem querer saber, se tiver dinheiro, pega.
abre geladeira, pega as coisas..."

e isso não é um caso isolado.

falta muito caminho pro Brasil ainda....
muito.
5474  Local / Brasil / Re: CriptoAwards 2020 vem aí! on: February 06, 2020, 01:13:21 PM
Interessante que os dois sites se uniram, só uma dúvida, tem a premiação de maior scam do Brasil? Porque aqui é bem disputado, pessoal disputa ferrenhamente esse posto.  Tongue

Brincadeira, legal que esse tipo de evento aconteça por aqui, apesar de que geralmente quem vai é quem já é familiarizado com criptomoedas. Queria mais eventos que chamassem a atenção de quem quer aprender. Mas é meio complicado fazer as pessoas terem interesse em algo assim. Enfim, que dê certo essa parceria e o evento seja bem legal.

 


ahahahaha cara,é foda... energia tremenda separar o joio do trigo no BR.

e dá trabalho até pra quem quer criar conteúdo de qualidade sem ser taxado de scam.

eu mesmo já pensei em criar infoprodutos educativos na área de crypto que teria muito conteúdo de análise técnica,mineração especulativa,gerenciamento de risco e como identificar altcoins com potencial...

mas só de pensar na maré de energia que vem com a responsabilidade de criar um conteudo desse já dá preguiça...

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agora no twitter recebo vários anuncios da galera abrindo fundo brasileiro com exposição à crypto, sempre que to com um tempinho comento "not your keys, not your coins"
5475  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: CAMPANHAS DE ASSINATURAS ATUALIZADAS on: February 05, 2020, 12:42:51 PM
Para quem interessa, a campanha da 777coin acabou de trocar de gerente
Era o Hhampuz, mas saiu, e agora entrou CryptopreneurBrainboss

Fiquem ligados: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088856.900
so complementando, regras continuam as mesmas:

Tier D)

3 Heros @ 2000 Satoshis/post | Bonus: 200 Satoshis(Extra) / Post
3 Seniors @ 1750 Satoshis/post | Bonus: 200 Satoshis(Extra) / Post
3 Full Member @ 1500 Satoshis/post | Bonus: 200 Satoshis(Extra) / Post
3 Member @ 1250 Satoshis/post | Bonus: 200 Satoshis(Extra) / Post

pagamentos do Tier D, em geral era fácil subir pro tier C nessa campanha se fizer td direitinho, 15 posts/semana é tranquilo de manter

legal ver que tem mais gente participando agora:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_EQZj-GQZikCHy_MRPm0NrQu7QrfpkMXSVSlz81C_Co/edit?usp=sharing

(é só o btc subir que aumenta o movimento aqui)
5476  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: 3° Sorteio Grátis de BTC da aba portuguesa on: February 05, 2020, 12:39:47 PM
hoje é Dia!

vou de d

parabéns pela iniciativa
vamos ver se dessa vez rola Cheesy

(acho que vou organizar um no futuro também, quem sabe com uma altcoin ao invés de btc pra variar um pouco.)
5477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's in the game, after all? on: February 05, 2020, 12:36:58 PM
that is quite a nice topic, one of the best I've seen on this part of the forum

I bet (pun intended) it's usually a combination of dopamine hits caused by small wins and excitement on the possibility of "easy money" that keeps people gambling.

of course there are deviations on this behavior but I don't see how people would approach gamble on a "personal growth" way.
more like a "test of luck" or "destiny's checking"
5478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often do you gamble? on: February 05, 2020, 12:34:01 PM
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Anyways, this thread is more about time than money. Gambling a lot myself, time-wise, I came to conclusion that even if you gamble just once a week, or once a months, you should never gamble more than 4 hours in a row. With gambling more than that you become exhausted instead of relaxed, and it's bad for you even if you don't lose much money along the way.
not unless you are winning and losing continuously thats why your money are not spending quickly right?we have sometimes a semi luck situation when the bet is winning and losing evenly so the more we are staying in the Gambling table.

and if we win enough?then that is the right time to get out and find way home.

Yes, normally it's not only losses, because people rarely hunt for very high multipliers. But if you are hunting for 9900x in dice, for example, you can spend hours without hitting it. And even if you lose less than $2 in the process, you lose a lot of time and a lot of your energy, and that's not good. I use gambling for relaxation, but if I gamble for too long, it can end up being more exhausting than a day of hard work.

actually, it's better losing money than losing time
you can always work and recover the money but time is really scarce, you can never recover it.

that's why prioritizing is so important in life.
5479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Much Money You Need To Win To Stop gambling, Is This Possible. on: February 05, 2020, 12:32:33 PM
There's no really limit or enough for gambling that's just how greed of humans works, once they succeed in achieving something they move to another goal. That's how gambling works let's say you won a $100,000 but its still not enough so you wager more, we're never really content with anything even if you've manage to multiply $100k to $500k.
each person is a different person, right?

with 200k $USD I'm set for my whole life and can provide a beautiful life experience for me and my family.

and talking to friends I know sometimes they'd need 5x, 10x this amount to settle

(I mean, I'll never stop working but financial freedoom definitely helps with many things)
5480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: TIPS FOR NEWBIE GAMBLERS ! on: February 05, 2020, 12:30:31 PM
Actually, I think I have to disagree with rule number 5. Although most casino bonuses are actually intended to make you lose money in the long run, it's actually possible to benefit from these if you're careful.

There is a concept known as matched betting, whereby you basically accept promotions on multiple different websites in such a way that it's literally impossible to lose money. If this promotion arbitrage is possible, then it's worth taking up the offers.
for those interested in knowing more about matched betting, here's an explanation:
https://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/what-is-matched-betting/

there's way more on the website

take into accoutn that they'll offer to register with them (and I earn nothing with it, not a refferal)
but they're producing articles explaning the idea better so I thought it was worth to share here.
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