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5461  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New demonstration CPU miner available on: June 14, 2011, 10:25:13 PM
I suspected it, and saw it confirmed when I didn't specify number of threads and read the lines in the log file. Nothing new here but thanks for pointing it out anyway Wink.
5462  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Will fund ASIC board for mining community. Need Hardware devs. on: June 14, 2011, 10:04:04 PM
Subscribe. Sorry for not contributing anything, but I haven't a clue about hardware stuff (my geekiness stops at the kernel).
5463  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New demonstration CPU miner available on: June 14, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
I just downloaded and built cpuminer-1.0.2. I expected to see some improvements thanks to ckolivas' affinity changes (assuming they have made it into the release), but I'm surprised to find I'm getting the same speed:

Code:
$ grep CFLAGS_value */config.log
cpuminer-1.0.1/config.log:ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_value='-O3 -Wall -msse2'
cpuminer-1.0.2/config.log:ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_value='-O3 -Wall -msse2'
$ tail */my-log
==> cpuminer-1.0.1/my-log <==
[2011-06-14 18:57:05] thread 5: 161767000 hashes, 2694.78 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:58:00] thread 1: 160434868 hashes, 2684.82 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:58:00] thread 4: 162531240 hashes, 2694.68 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:58:05] thread 2: 160738332 hashes, 2678.31 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:58:05] thread 3: 162845920 hashes, 2687.02 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:58:06] thread 6: 161633936 hashes, 2691.05 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:58:06] thread 0: 162323744 hashes, 2687.43 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:58:06] thread 5: 161767000 hashes, 2694.55 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:59:00] thread 1: 160434868 hashes, 2693.92 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 18:59:01] thread 4: 162531240 hashes, 2684.48 khash/sec

==> cpuminer-1.0.2/my-log <==
[2011-06-14 21:30:10] thread 0: 40046392 hashes, 2687.31 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:30:10] thread 2: 32207448 hashes, 2687.27 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:30:10] thread 1: 49517220 hashes, 2687.39 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:31:12] thread 4: 158828460 hashes, 2687.11 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:31:12] thread 6: 161129456 hashes, 2679.90 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:31:13] thread 3: 164484744 hashes, 2686.09 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:31:13] thread 0: 160185568 hashes, 2685.15 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:31:14] thread 2: 161037240 hashes, 2685.64 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:31:14] thread 5: 164770840 hashes, 2687.16 khash/sec
[2011-06-14 21:31:16] thread 1: 165057400 hashes, 2684.58 khash/sec
$ grep -vE 'url|user|pass' cpuminer-1.0.2/cfg.json
{
    "algo" : "sse2_64",
    "threads" : "7",
    "retry-pause" : "25"
}
$ diff -u cpuminer-1.0.*/cfg.json
$ _

I tried removing the line that specifies 7 threads but that makes no difference (except for the log messages "Binding thread %d to cpu %d"). Am I omitting some step? The CPU is a "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5420 @2.50GHz". This is the layout of the CPUs/cores:

Code:
$ grep -E '^processor|^physical|^core.id|^$' /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
physical id     : 0
core id         : 0

processor       : 1
physical id     : 1
core id         : 0

processor       : 2
physical id     : 0
core id         : 2

processor       : 3
physical id     : 1
core id         : 2

processor       : 4
physical id     : 0
core id         : 1

processor       : 5
physical id     : 1
core id         : 1

processor       : 6
physical id     : 0
core id         : 3

processor       : 7
physical id     : 1
core id         : 3

"siblings" and "cpu cores" both have the value 4 in all entries.
5464  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just got hacked - any help is welcome! on: June 14, 2011, 06:43:32 PM
I think anything requiring "Updates" (Including Windows and certain GNU/Linux distros, most graphical browsers) is inherently insecure.

I ROTFL'd at this.
5465  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I just got hacked - any help is welcome! on: June 14, 2011, 02:02:21 PM
I have a friend with several thousand in his wallet (mined from earlier in the year) and he just leaves his laptop on without encryption and carries it around with him around town. I could have easily transferred the BTCs to my wallet while he was in the washroom.

Do it.

Then a day or two later, return him the money Wink. He will learn the lesson.
5466  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: BTC Market con soporte Bancario Argentino on: June 14, 2011, 12:31:38 PM
Anda mira, me lo acabo de topar en el wiki:

Quote
Further, PayPal has stipulated that trading Bitcoin is against their AUP, since they consider Bitcoin a currency, and currency trading is not allowed. There have been a handful of reported chargeback cases, and several high-profile account freezes by PayPal for bitcoin dealing businesses (bitcoinmorpheus, and coinpal). It is thus strongly recommended to avoid using PayPal for bitcoin transactions.

Que traducido, vendría a ser algo como:

Quote
Además, PayPal ha establecido que intercambiar Bitcoins incumple ¿la política de uso aceptable? ya que consideran que Bitcoin es una divisa, y el intercambio de divisas no está contemplado. Se han dado varios casos de devoluciones y bloqueos de cuentas "high-profile" por intercambio de bitcoins. Por tanto se recomienda encarecidamente evitar el uso de PayPal para el intercambio de Bitcoins.

Esto de high profile se me escapa, no tengo cuenta de PayPal y no sé lo que es.
5467  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New demonstration CPU miner available on: June 14, 2011, 12:23:49 PM
Also, you can set your frequency governor to ignore niced processes (at least for ondemand and conservative), keeping the CPU speed down when nothing else needs the higher frequency. Works quite well for me.

Ah, didn't know this. Will look into it, thank you!
5468  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New demonstration CPU miner available on: June 14, 2011, 11:03:42 AM
[...] power usage and heat generation. Of course they may be issues in their own right. Is there really a demand for this?

I for one would like to have it. I would have been a long time user of BOINC if it weren't for this.
5469  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC will be below $11 by Tuesday, probably be below $7 by Friday. on: June 12, 2011, 09:56:29 AM
Unfortunately, there are still lots of idiot investors, lol
When I was 16 I bought some USD while they were high to wait a bit till they rise even more. Since I lost 30% of investment, I had my lesson. Seems not everyone does.

That's because not everyone has ever lost 30% or more. That's just part of the process. I lost 50% after the dot com bubble.
5470  Economy / Economics / Re: Graph: Exchange price relative to computing cost on: June 12, 2011, 08:36:44 AM
Is there a reason why you display only so little data?

I couldn't get ahold of MtGox trade history for more than 24 hours back.

Bitcoin Charts has that information. Look at their API.
5471  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Mexico? Also, what do the market symbols on bitcoin charts mean? on: June 12, 2011, 01:43:30 AM
They are all of the currencies supported by "th", which is TradeHill.
5472  Economy / Economics / Re: Don't SELL !! on: June 12, 2011, 12:18:58 AM
OP,
Take your loss, educate yourself a bit on charting, currency trading and daytrading and maybe try hunting again later when you are better armed.

How on earth would charting and ccy/daytrading have anything to do with BTC?

There are zero reliable "levels" in the BTC market, let alone proper margin accounts, instant execution, depth, etc..it doesn't even make sense to get started to pretend that BTC is in any way a "truly" tradeable market outside of hitting buy and sell on mtgox randomly.

Charting is about the behaviour of a heterogeneous group of people. It applies to the BTC market.
5473  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: BTC Market con soporte Bancario Argentino on: June 12, 2011, 12:04:18 AM
Genial  Wink  , no hay una forma de sacar los BTC por paypal no ? porque por lo que vi Bitcoinmarket  ya no lo soporta mas :S

Algo leí hoy mismo acerca de que las compraventas de bitcoins con paypal incumplían alguna de las cláusulas del contrato de paypal, por lo que cerraron el grifo.
5474  Economy / Economics / Re: do you really think it's over? on: June 11, 2011, 11:48:06 PM
What surprised me is that mt. gox, has a limit where you can only sell $1000 dollars a day. If this is true, this would explain partly why the price rose so high, sellers were not able to unload fast enough.

AFAIK MtGox doesn't let you *withdraw* more than $1000 a day, not sell.

If the limit was on selling, the big downwards movement of today would have to be explained somehow. There were single sell operations of 1000 or 2000 bitcoins (I don't remember at what price but it's irrelevant, it would have been a minimum of $13k).
5475  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC will be below $11 by Tuesday, probably be below $7 by Friday. on: June 11, 2011, 11:15:41 PM
lawl did OP just register a new account to post this?

5 out of their 6 posts are in this thread Tongue
5476  Economy / Economics / Re: Don't SELL !! on: June 11, 2011, 08:28:25 PM
I like how we first had weeks of posts about how prices > 3$-5$ were not a bubble, then had a nuclear explosion of price(TOTALLY NOT A BUBBLE. +3000% in 8 weeks is normal, to-scale behavior!), then had people "out of the mainstream" hop on board when it was peaking, and then the bubble popped (-50% in 5 days is faster than even the mortgage crisis managed, well done...STILL NOT A BUBBLE..oh wait) and people are now showing the classic "bought the top, sweating blood" state.

When they sell their last BTC for an incredibly painfull loss somewhere between -50% and -90% (go for it OP, just imagine your cash value should we return to 1$-3$ permanently!), then we will have bottomed out.

I absolutely love how even the tiny BTC market 1:1 mirrors the "real world" markets in terms of herd behavior.
It's also incredible how you just cannot escape the whole human nature thing regardless of how little or small a market is..and how well this fits in with explaining why not everyone is a Soros/Buffet etc.

+1 to this.
5477  Economy / Economics / Re: The price of BTC needs to come down on: June 11, 2011, 04:43:31 PM
The current transaction fee is a pain but that will drop soon.

I haven't found much information about fees. Care to explain in a couple of words why do you think fees will drop? Thank you.
5478  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: New demonstration CPU miner available on: June 11, 2011, 04:20:36 PM
As a user I would expect that total Mhash/s were the sum of the khash/s of all threads—in your example it would be always around 12 Mhash/s (since each thread works at a consistent pace of nearly 3000 khash/s). That's not the case, so I guess the algorithm is different.
5479  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Bitcoin en España on: June 11, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
Jaja, cómo no se me había ocurrido antes??  Espera que me monto un Euro Drain para mí xD.
5480  Economy / Economics / Re: It looks like the Bitcoin's value is about to see a major retrace on: June 11, 2011, 02:53:49 PM
After the big downwards movement of some minutes ago, it went up just when it touched $13 as expected. Midterm bullish is still alive ATM.
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