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5461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 06:17:15 PM
Do you have infos if stamp is deducting the fees in btc or fiat?
I would tend to say fiat but it would be not too far off if they atleast hold a part in btc?

I have less information than anyone who trades there.  (Is the fee really 1%?)

It does not matter whether a payment (fee, purchase, deposit…) is in BTC or in dollars.  Its value is best measured in dollars, converting BTC at the current market rate.  How that amount is kept after the payment can be considered a separate decision by the person who received the amount.  

That is, if Autumn pays Brock in BTC,  and Brock keeps them as BTC for some time, it is the same as if Autumn had sold the BTC, given the dollars to Brock, and Brock has immediately bought back the BTC.

Yeah you are right with this.
i was thinking about the next step stamp is gonna take.

1. They have a private btc reserve
2. They have to buy back the btc

Option 2 has higher probality to raise the price
5462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 05:50:33 PM
Can someone launch a speculative cypher of how much money has bitstamp done in his history and in a standard month?
Jorge?
Um, eyeballing the charts, it seems that they had ~90 kBTC/week of trade volume since Nov/2013; about 60 weeks.  Guessing an average price of 600 $/BTC, that would be 3.2 billion $ of total trades in that period. If they charge 1% trading fees (guessing; what is the right number?), that would be 32 million $ of revenue in that period, or almost 30 million $/year.

That explains why they got the 10 M $ investment.  (It does not explain why they would need such investment.)

But their revenue is falling, now about 60 kBTC/week at less than 300 $/BTC.  That is ~80 M$/month of trade volume, 800'000 $/month of revenue from 1% fees

However, we do not know whether they charge the same fee from all customers.  If their moms trade at Bitstamp, maybe they are exempt from fees.  Wink

Do you have infos if stamp is deducting the fees in btc or fiat?
I would tend to say fiat but it would be not too far off if they atleast hold a part in btc?
5463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 05:40:35 PM
Can someone launch a speculative cypher of how much money has bitstamp done in his history and in a standard month?
Hi

Jorge?

There is a thread in service discussion about it.
If you assume 10k btc volume per day it would be around 14.5 k btc from fees. But they will also have expenses over the year..

They also had VC funding, right? So probably insurance too.

Yeah 10 million from pantera in 2013.
Any1 knows what they did with the money?
5464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 05:32:23 PM
Can someone launch a speculative cypher of how much money has bitstamp done in his history and in a standard month?

Jorge?

There is a thread in service discussion about it.
If you assume 10k btc volume per day it would be around 14.5 k btc from fees. But they will also have expenses over the year..
5465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 07, 2015, 05:03:54 PM
i call 300 before friday

I kinda have that feeling too. Dont see a dump after goxstamp reopens Smiley
5466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Could someone help teaching me how to short on: January 07, 2015, 04:59:56 PM
How much does the price have to move before you make money going short or long with leverage? 4%?

Depends on fees & leverage. But with 10x leverage and standard fees you will probaly be at 20-30% profit
( with 4% change)
Good luck and dont get wiped out coz if its going down its gonna go down real quick
5467  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Anyone OFfer User Verification anymore? on: January 07, 2015, 08:27:33 AM
I guess,

But something could be done. I'm personal friends with a sitting board member of the Bitcoin Alliance of Canada, but he doesn't use these forums.
Gotta be some way to establish some identity or trust.
Building a trader history, really is meaningless, as you just proved. And even top trusted members can scam..
There are certain reasons for a trusted member not to scam. A primary one is the fact that accounts can be sold and that positive trust has value. If a person were to attempt to scam (that may or may not be successful) they will then lose the value of this trust and of their account.

This is demonstrated by your recent hate campaign against Vod since he left you negative trust, thus leaving the value of your account to be less

My account value was less before I did anything. So please stop saying my hate campaign against a member who clearly has an issue and is abusing a system. Is the main reason, It just gave him different fuel to use after he was proven to be full of shit with his first false accusation towards me.

Exactly you just put more fuel into this and from my point of view it did not good for you.
If you would have shown more diplomacy and maturity - i am sure not only i would have taken a stance for you instead for vod ( im not involved with either you or vod in any way, but saying it as part of our community)
5468  Other / Meta / Re: Remove VOD from the Default Trust List - clear case of neg for calling out abuse on: January 07, 2015, 12:18:40 AM
I'm starting to see a pattern where Vod
leaves negative trust for non scammers
(Evershawn, Takagari, Tecshare).

In these cases, those receiving negative trust do not
handle it well, and escalate the conflict.
Then Vod responds with escalations of his own.

This is only natural for both sides, however,
I feel that if you're on the default trust
list, you have a greater responsibility --
one that entails the discipline to avoid
these kinds of conflicts and flame wars in the first place.

Yes, people who are escalating their complaints
may be acting brashly or immaturely, but
that doesn't mean they deserve negative trust.

During a conflict, it is too easy to say: "this person lied,
therefore they are untrustworthy and deserve negative trust."

In my humble opinion, this is not the
intended use of the trust system.

Vod is good at detecting liars and scammers,
however, he shies away from using his default
trust to leave negative feedback for obvious
scammers such as Moriarty and BlueMeanie.

I think that if Vod wants to stay on
the default trust his, he should make
some improvements.  


how can you trust a lier, especially over the internet?
i think this is a total valid use pf the trust system

to be honest looking at the tagakari case i think the escalation was tagakaris fault
5469  Other / Off-topic / Re: Life Without Bitcoin on: January 06, 2015, 08:41:25 PM
Gleb = milf

Sorry  Grin

Good catch though Wink
5470  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NUCLEAR IS GREENEST TECHNOLOGY CLAIM 65 TOP BIOLOGISTS on: January 06, 2015, 01:50:37 AM
no he is not.
and i even posted a source which is from the world nuclear association. only if the coal fuelled powerplant have no working filter system or pollution control the statement is correct.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Safety-and-Security/Radiation-and-Health/Naturally-Occurring-Radioactive-Materials-NORM/

...and what about dumping the ash? As far as I know that stuff used to go into bricks, cement and landfills... and sometimes to Somalia Roll Eyes


like the radioactive waste from nuclear power plants am i right? just that they are thousands times more toxic for the next 10.000 - 100.000 years  Roll Eyes

the source i gave you is from the biggest nuclear lobby in the world. as a nuclear power fan WNA should be your god, your dad and your mother at the same time.
and they say this is just a plain wrong statement.

im trying to imagine instead of 2 coal fuelled powerplants we have 1 nuclear power plant.
we would have a ultimate MCA every 2-5 years?

for example:
the funny thing germany has by far (very far) the highest security standards for nuclear power plants, but it is still far from safe, we still have alot of problems happening all over the place.
i dont even wanna imagine how it would look like when third world countries and tiger states are running full on nuclear power.
without the right security nuclear power plants are not that different from a nuclear time bomb.
indeed, ignorance is bliss

There are lots of nuclear power plants in Europe and in the US. Do we have serious accidents in every 2-5 years? I don't think so.
Many of those third world countries and tiger states are already running nuclear power plants without any issues.

If you guys are not confident with your knowledge and safety practices about nuclear power plants, certainly you don't have to use those things Wink.
BTW what will be next? When BMW will start breeding horses Smiley?


1. i was thinking of a future where nuclear power plants are replacing coal fueled power plants.

2. please look up the numbers of existing nuclear power plants, coal fueled power plants and the respective ratio.

3. which 3rd world country has nuclear power plants? do tiger states really have more then a handful nuclear power plants?

4. the german security and technology standards regarding nuclear power is far superior to that of the us (and all other in the world) and we are not confident because we have problems.
that should tell you from the US something right? us security and technology standards are pretty much only on par with russia  Cry

5. do you know how many nuclear power plants has to be build so that mankind doesnt need coal anymore?


2-5 years per mca if mankind is lucky lol


/edit

about serious accidents, you should look up the history of nuclear power plants in the us again lol
5471  Other / Off-topic / Re: Riemann hypothesis - Proof on: January 06, 2015, 12:49:26 AM
didnt read yet, but if its correct the author will get atleast a million $ from the Clay Mathematics Institute (CMI) Cheesy
5472  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NUCLEAR IS GREENEST TECHNOLOGY CLAIM 65 TOP BIOLOGISTS on: January 06, 2015, 12:14:50 AM

He's right. Nearly all coals containing small amounts of radon and radioactive uranium, thorium, barium potassium isotopes in concentration varying with the area where it is mined. Oil and natural gas contains radium and radon. In the ash all of these stuff getting concentrated. More details: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/

no he is not.
and i even posted a source which is from the world nuclear association. only if the coal fuelled powerplant have no working filter system or pollution control the statement is correct.

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Safety-and-Security/Radiation-and-Health/Naturally-Occurring-Radioactive-Materials-NORM/



Chernobil and Fukushima was two pretty bad accident indeed but, across the world 10-30 thousands of people dying every year because of pollution generated by the coal burning power plants. So there is a hidden cost what we are actually paying day by day, and this isn't some "whos gonna pay when" type guessing, but hard facts.


im trying to imagine instead of 2 coal fuelled powerplants we have 1 nuclear power plant.
we would have a ultimate MCA every 2-5 years?

for example:
the funny thing germany has by far (very far) the highest security standards for nuclear power plants, but it is still far from safe, we still have alot of problems happening all over the place.
i dont even wanna imagine how it would look like when third world countries and tiger states are running full on nuclear power.
without the right security nuclear power plants are not that different from a nuclear time bomb.


indeed, ignorance is bliss
5473  Other / Off-topic / Re: Whats the best legitmate way you know of making money? on: January 05, 2015, 11:42:55 PM
be a banker and print your own money.  Wink
5474  Other / Meta / Re: How long does it take to become a Legendary Member? on: January 05, 2015, 11:40:26 PM
hm wait, but you probaly still need atleast 480 (hero) right?
5475  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NUCLEAR IS GREENEST TECHNOLOGY CLAIM 65 TOP BIOLOGISTS on: January 05, 2015, 11:32:05 PM
balthazar could get a job at tschernobyl or fukushima and make a youtube diary on how healthy the radiation there is (helps against acne i heard)

 Roll Eyes

5476  Other / Off-topic / Re: Starting a business that involves webcam - I NEED HELP! on: January 05, 2015, 09:51:38 PM
i hope you have nice tits

(no man boobs)

 Tongue

to stay on topic:


free: open broadcast software

fee: xsplit

professional: wirecast
5477  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NUCLEAR IS GREENEST TECHNOLOGY CLAIM 65 TOP BIOLOGISTS on: January 05, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Safety-and-Security/Radiation-and-Health/Naturally-Occurring-Radioactive-Materials-NORM/

 Roll Eyes
5478  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NUCLEAR IS GREENEST TECHNOLOGY CLAIM 65 TOP BIOLOGISTS on: January 05, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
whos gonna pay when (not if, when) tschernobyl and fukushima is gonna happen again?
Knock-Knock! It's ignorance knocking. Grin

They also have no idea that coal, oil and other natural fossils have significant amounts of uranium and thorium... As the result, coal powered plants introduced greater amounts of radioactivity than Chernobyl & Fukushima & all other accidents being combined.


 Roll Eyes
5479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NUCLEAR IS GREENEST TECHNOLOGY CLAIM 65 TOP BIOLOGISTS on: January 05, 2015, 09:24:04 PM
whos gonna pay when (not if, when) tschernobyl and fukushima is gonna happen again?

of course nuclear is nearly emission free, but what about the question of security and final disposal?
there are types of nuclear reactors in development though that could be a big advantage in the area of security and final disposal - but until they work and run 20-30 years could have easily gone by...
5480  Other / Politics & Society / Re: uk government on: January 05, 2015, 07:31:28 PM


cyril smith, MP a.d.

pedophile for life


no words
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