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5461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: January 11, 2020, 04:24:45 PM
I think the super cup final match is Real Madrid's to lose. It will be another match full of a tactical war between Zidane and Simeone. When it comes to big Matches like Finals, Zidane has been inch-perfect so far so i back him to pocket this upcoming one too.
Atletico Madrid are not as strong as they used to be when they won the La Liga ironically that's the same year that they lost their first Champions League to Real Madrid but Madrid are not the power house they used to be themselves but still they are the clear favorites to win the Super Cup tomorrow.  I will have my money on them.
Betting for Real Madrid's victory like that would be a good choice, considering that Real Madrid is a tough team when in the Final.  and now Zidane is confident that he feels better than before when he won the Champions League.  proven Zidane has many strategies for the team, when against Valencia yesterday Real Madrid used five midfielders. 

Zidane, happy his foster children can understand well the tactics of the five midfielders who applied it against Valencia in the Spanish Super Cup semifinals.  Zidane said he would try other tactics in the next match.
5462  Economy / Speculation / Re: My opinion about the price movement of BTC on: January 11, 2020, 02:41:42 PM
A series of events are attach to the price of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrency, proof is what happens in the Iraq situation, we have moved to  the $8000 level and that is the hot topic right now, people consider that Iraqi's and other neighboring countries are buying Bitcoin and other top Cryptos, because of the series of events that might come in the coming months.
I don't think only Iraq and other neighboring countries bought Bitcoin, but all countries have bought it so there has been an increase in the price of Bitcoin.

while news of the conflict between Iran and America might be part of positive news for Bitcoin and some Altcoin.  because I looked at the technical analysis also was in the area to buy.

sometimes I observe positive news on Bitcoin along with technical analysis showing the area to buy.  so it's no wonder that sometimes some people don't realize that it's happening together.  and sometimes just assume that there is an increase in the price of Bitcoin only because certain countries are buying.  even though that's not entirely true.
5463  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Learning to trade on: January 10, 2020, 11:37:20 PM
Also to add.
You need to have some real experience. For this, use a little amount which you can afford to lose. And trade until you have completely lost it. Of course it’s all only to become more experienced.
And only then will you become a really tough trader.

If trading requires loss, why should we trade? it's better to just sleep. to become experienced, you don't have to lose your trade. maybe it's better to save money first and then learn to understand everything related to the trade itself, such as learning to understand indicators and the potential of coins to be traded to experienced people. then practice it yourself, but remember not to lose. if it's not possible don't force it to happen worse and go back to study again.

an example which I often do when trading, I use the RSI or CCI indicator every time I open a position and use a short 30Minute time frame, when the RSI has reached overbought or oversold.

like I did before when RSI has reached overbought, I trade short futures on binance. less than an hour I get 45% then I close it. because my important principle is not to lose, the profit problem is only a bonus.
5464  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ZAKY-CELL] Jual Beli Bitcoin - Voucher Indodax - Pulsa - Escrow on: January 10, 2020, 08:04:05 PM
Teruntuk teman-teman yang kemarin tidak bisa akses, saya mohon maaf, karena ada kendala teknis saat update. Dan terima kasih atas kepercayaan dan kesabaran mas Zaky selama pengembangan websitenya Smiley

Sukses untuk mas dan bisnisnya makin barokah.
Terimakasih Atas Do'anya dan Terimakasih telah menjadi Pengembang Website Zaky-Cell, berkat bantuan nya kini Zaky-Cell menyediakan Paypal, Perfect Money, Payeer dan Skrill.


Sudah berkali2 transaksi voucer dengan om Zaky, ndak pernah delay, fast response.
recomend seller, btw baru tau ternyata orang ini partnernya Indodax, hahahaha
di minta testimoni
Terimakasih juga kpd Om Roy, yang menjadikan Zaky-Cell tempat melakukan penarikan IDR, saya selalu siap menampung hasil gajian dari sMixer  Cheesy


Website-nya barusan saya coba buka di Firefox dan juga Safari hasilnya seperti ini:

https://i.imgur.com/hlsxLTd.png
https://i.imgur.com/5xqkf6s.png

Penasaran coba buka menggukanan Tor Browser, baru bisa muncul page nya:

https://i.imgur.com/qeKbOwQ.png

Entah ini di laptop saya saja atau user lain mengalami hal serupa juga...
semua pertanyaan mengenai website telah dijawab oleh masulum selaku team pengembang.
Om Husna ditunggu WD nya hasil dari cMixer  Cheesy
5465  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC to 5000$ before a big rise ? on: January 09, 2020, 08:01:12 AM
Don't believe in the prediction because it's not true because they only speculate about the price of bitcoin themselves, so the forecast is never right.
I just guess that the price of bitcoin won't go down to $5,000 because in my opinion bitcoin will continue to rise slowly and its peak is halving after it approaches.
Think positively about the price of bitcoin in the future, don't believe too much about what the prophecy says because it's only the spread of fud.
If you don't believe in a technical or fundamental analysis, do you only guess the price?  like a shaman or rather a gambling trader.  whereas in trading various indicators are provided as a tool to determine price movements, while fundamentals provide information about something positive or negative happening to Crypto itself, so that we can know where prices will move.  is it possible because you have never learned technical and fundamental analysis?  so you say don't ever believe in predictions.
5466  Economy / Speculation / Re: $9k next week on: January 09, 2020, 03:17:15 AM
Yes indeed, even though bitcoin is going to redeem the price of $ 8500 but it can't afford it and the price is back down a little now, but reaching $ 9000 is only a few hundred dollars more so for me it will be easy for bitcoin to redeem it.
Many investors are now only short-term to get its profits.
not as easy as you say, the price of bitcoin is not exactly easy with each increase and decrease.  it happened because of a process from either technical or fundamental.  it does look mathematically close from 8500$ -9000$ but if a technical or fundamental analysis does not give a positive signal to the increase I think it will still be difficult.  I think for this month it is quite below 9000$ first, the most important is the volume of trade has increased, because then for the next month I think it will be more volatile.
5467  Economy / Speculation / Re: $9k next week on: January 08, 2020, 02:03:37 PM
as I wrote in my previous thread, in my technical analysis the resistance line actually didn't reach the price of $9,000 for this month.  but sometimes the price of bitcoin when experiencing bullish or bearish when it reaches a resistance or support point sometimes exceeds that line. so it doesn't have to be straight on that line.  and for this month maybe I will choose the price below $9000. And of course the point of resistance and support for the next month will be broader in the sense that the price will be at a higher Resistance line, as seen from now trading volume has increased

Potential Price of BTC / USD Bitcoin pairs Until January 31, 2020.
Key Point: 7122$

  • Resistence 3: 8469$
  • Resistance 2: 7954$
  • Resistance 1: 7636$

Key Point: 7122 $

  • Support 1: 6609$
  • Support 2: 6289$
  • Support 3: 5774$

CONCLUSION:
If BTC / USD trades above the key point then the highest potential price of Bitcoin until January 31, 2020 is 8469$
If BTC / USD trades below the key point then the lowest potential price of Bitcoin until January 31, 2020 is 5774$

DWYOR: (Do With Your Own Risk)
5468  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Analisa Teknikal Bitcoin buat day trader on: January 07, 2020, 06:30:22 PM
Kemungkinan Target Harga Berikutnya Di Atas 8.000$

Bitcoin suka melakukan fluktuatif dengan cepat: Mengikuti analisis kemarin, saya melihat bahwa tahun 2020 sejauh ini sangat bullish untuk Bitcoin.

Dalam waktu kurang dari tujuh hari, Bitcoin telah mengalami peningkatan 10%. Kemarin, saya menunjukkan chart 4H. Hari ini, Bitcoin telah mencapai target dengan cepat mencapai zona resisten di 7631$ - 7876$.
TF 4H


Bitcoin telah melakukan lebih dari itu: Melihat pada grafik harian, Bitcoin dengan baik keluar dari garis tren paling signifikan di tahun 2019, garis yang mulai terbentuk pada paruh kedua Juni, sementara tinggi 2019 Bitcoin tercapai.
TF 1D


Itu tidak berarti bahwa misi tersebut tercapai, karena Bitcoin harus menahan level tersebut (dan tidak berakhir sebagai pemalsuan), tetapi itu masih sangat mengesankan. Seperti yang sudah kita ketahui di crypto, tren dapat berubah setiap saat, tetapi sejauh ini, ini terlihat menjanjikan.

Total Kapitalisasi Pasar: 210$ miliar
Batas Pasar Bitcoin: 143,5$ miliar
Indeks Dominasi BTC: 68,2%

Mengikuti kenaikan beberapa hari terakhir, saya tidak mengharapkan Bitcoin untuk menembus 8000$ dengan sangat cepat. Dari bawah, jika terjadi koreksi, level support pertama adalah 7631$.

Indikator RSI:
Bagus dan bullish, indikator momentum terus naik. Ini adalah level tertinggi dari indikator RSI sejak akhir Oktober.

RSI Stochastic:
akan melakukan cross-over di area overbought. Ini mungkin memicu koreksi yang mengikuti kenaikan.

Volume:
Perlahan, volume mulai muncul. Itu masih bukan level volume yang saya harapkan untuk perubahan tren; Namun, volumenya perlahan-lahan naik untuk bullish.

5469  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Jr. Member s.d Hero)[UPDATE] on: January 07, 2020, 05:18:02 PM
Ini laporan pertama saya disini dan mungkin menjadi laporan yang terakhir juga, karena limit bantuan disini hanya sampai Hero. jadinya saya pilih yang menurut saya pribadi pantas mendapatkan sentuhan.  Cheesy

Lokal
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874360.msg53531222#msg53531222
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=903836.msg53500659#msg53500659
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874360.msg53438928#msg53438928
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874360.msg53425581#msg53425581
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874360.msg53415558#msg53415558
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874360.msg53475042#msg53475042
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874360.msg53491194#msg53491194


Global
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210054.msg53368131#msg53368131
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5212144.msg53437250#msg53437250
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206406.msg53415651#msg53415651
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213547.msg53475925#msg53475925
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4520779.msg53479971#msg53479971
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214442.msg53506089#msg53506089
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5176196.msg53513752#msg53513752

Dan apabila terdapat kritik dan saran silahkan beritahu saya. Terimkasih
5470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you use betting tips? on: January 06, 2020, 12:34:52 PM
The most important thing in online gambling games, whatever your type of game.  Whether it's playing Sportsbook, Casino, Cockfighting or other things.

Financial management of your balance is something that needs to be done.  For example, how many wins / losses must be done.  When to stop playing, and when to buy your bet.

Without Management who controls your balance and your trust will be without results in the various online gambling that you follow.
Actually this is also done by professional gambling players in the world.  Obey what has been committed to themselves.
5471  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Analisa Teknikal Bitcoin buat day trader on: January 06, 2020, 03:04:55 AM
Potensi Harga Bitcoin pair BTC/USD Sampai Tanggal 6 Januari . TF 4H
Titik Kunci: 7375$


  • Resinten 3: 8017$
  • Resisten 2: 7772$
  • Resisten 1: 7621$

Titik Kunci: 7375$

  • Support 1: 7131$
  • Support 2: 6984$
  • Support 3: 6735$
Sebagai penerusan Analisa Teknis saya yang minggu kemarin tgl 30 Desember, jika melihat Harga Bitcoin minggu kemarin telah mencapai Titik Suooirt 2 yaitu sampai harga 6984$ dan Kemudian mentul menuju Titik Kunci 7375$.
dan saat ini saya membuat lagi Analisa Teknis yang berlaku sampai 13 Januari 2020.


Seperti Biasa Indikator yang saya gunakan:

Indikator:
  • Inside Pitchfork
  • Parabolic SAR
  • RSI

TF 4H


Inside Pitchfork
Inside Pitchfork saya gunakan sebagai penentuan titik Resisten dan Support, cara penggunaan nya hampir sama dengan Fibonasi.

Parabolic SAR
Indikator Parabolic SAR saat ini posisinya pas dibawah candle, dengan begitu kemungkinan naik sudah pasti. namun perlu di waspadai karena spread Parabolic SAR nya terlalu dekat yg di khawatirkan perubahan yang harga yang fluktuatif, itu bisa saja berbalik arah lagi.

RSI
Masih berada di titik 63 dan saat ini posisi cenderung menukik ke atas kemungkinan naik masih ada.

Potensi Harga Bitcoin pair BTC/USD Sampai Tanggal 13 Januari . TF 4H
Titik Kunci: 7234$


  • Resinten 3: 7876$
  • Resisten 2: 7631$
  • Resisten 1: 7479$

Titik Kunci: 7234$

  • Support 1: 6989$
  • Support 2: 6837$
  • Support 3: 6592$

KESIMPULAN:
Jika BTC/USD diperdagangkan di atas titik kunci maka potensi tertinggi Harga Bitcoin sampai 13 Januari 2020 Hanya 7876$
Jika BTC/USD diperdagangkan di bawah titik kunci maka potensi terendah Harga Bitcoin sampai 13 Januari 2020 Hanya 6592$

Sebagai Catatan: Harga Bitcoin saat ini berada di atas titik kunci dan berada di area Descending Triangle untuk jangka panjang.

DWYOR : (Do With Your Own Risk)
5472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: January 03, 2020, 10:47:54 PM
Yes, both teams are on the top flight. Certainly sevilla and bilbao will present a very exciting and interesting match. Victory for Sevilla will continue to keep them in third place in the standings. Their points will be the same as Real Madrid, of course Madrid have not played their matches. For Bilbao the victory will make the distance to rank 4 closer.
The Getafe vs Real Madrid match seems interesting to look forward to. The two clubs have met 28 times in the history of the two clubs, and Real Madrid is superior with a record of 20 wins and three draws, while Getafe has only won in five matches. This has increasingly seen statistics over the past few seasons.

Since 2015, Getafe hasn't been able to beat Real Madrid, both at home and away. Of the last eight meetings, they won one draw, and the rest, seven defeats.

Thus, the record of Jose Bordalas's foster children this season is quite positive when playing at home. They have only swallowed one defeat in nine home matches so far, namely cons Barcelona (0-2) in the 7th week. The rest, closed with three draws and five wins.
5473  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC TO 5K$ soon on: January 03, 2020, 05:26:56 PM
For last 6- 7 months btc price was around of 7.5k$ , now this support level is no longer, that mean btc is ready to dump hard.
I'm not sure what you say bitcoin will experience a dump, in my technical analysis for the 1D time frame, the $5000 support didn't exist until the end of January. if that happens maybe not this January. while the weekly timeframe for the Parabolic SAR indicator is slightly above the candle around $8100, which may be achieved in the near future. and there is a hammer candlestick, as I learned it is a sign of a bullish occurrence. so in my opinion $5000 won't happen anytime soon.
5474  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [Exchange] PayPal/Skrill/Neteller BTC/LTC/ETH/ETC/PM/Payza/Webmoney/Payoneer on: January 03, 2020, 04:11:14 PM
Please let me know the amount, is it 150$ as you told on telegram?
Yes, I have sent Skrill funds to you and this is my bitcoin address: 1ZAKiBoZ6uq3rRBuzhCZMNVfoCTau4SPS
5475  Economy / Speculation / The potential price of Bitcoin that might be achieved throughout 2020 on: January 03, 2020, 01:46:53 AM
TF 1W

Potential Price of BTC/USD Bitcoin pairs Until December 31, 2020.
Key Point: 8147 $

  • Resistence 3: 18,677$
  • Resistance 2: 14,527$
  • Resistance 1: 12,049$

Key Point: 8147$

  • Support 1: 4182$
  • Support 2: Not Found
  • Support 3: Not Found

CONCLUSION:
If BTC / USD trades above the key point then the highest potential price of Bitcoin until 31 December 2020 is $ 18,677
If BTC / USD trades below the key point then the lowest potential of the Bitcoin Price until December 31, 2020 I wrote Not Found because I think for the long term it is impossible to reach S3.



TF 1D

Potential Price of BTC / USD Bitcoin pairs Until January 31, 2020.
Key Point: 7122$

  • Resistence 3: 8469$
  • Resistance 2: 7954$
  • Resistance 1: 7636$

Key Point: 7122 $

  • Support 1: 6609$
  • Support 2: 6289$
  • Support 3: 5774$

CONCLUSION:
If BTC / USD trades above the key point then the highest potential price of Bitcoin until January 31, 2020 is 8469$
If BTC / USD trades below the key point then the lowest potential price of Bitcoin until January 31, 2020 is 5774$

DWYOR: (Do With Your Own Risk)
5476  Other / Meta / Re: [LOG] The ranked up members - Congratulations! on: January 02, 2020, 12:43:31 PM
Congratulations, AakZaki has ranked up to Hero member, He is active in Indonesian local board
when moon?when Legendary?soon Cheesy
AakZaki has been added to the logs. Wink
Thank you for recording my historical data, even though I forgot when I rose to the rank of Hero Member.

This time I will tell you that a colleague from the local board has just reached the rank of Hero Member namely kawetsriyanto Congratulations to you Bro
5477  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: January 02, 2020, 12:07:35 PM
Karena belum terjadi, mereka bebas menyebut harga, lu juga bisa sebut harga semaunya.
kalo gue akan menyebut angka nolnya 6 digit, one million USD

..ane pantau news terbaru bitcoin masih rawan dari peretasan
Ayolah untuk sekedar memberikan bukti atau link berita yang elu dapat, biar clear benar tidaknya suatu informasi yang diteruskan. hingga yang lain, newbie atau pendatang baru tidak kepo seperti ini:
Saya mengutip dua postingan anda Om, anda menanyakan sebuah data pada om @alankasman, sedangkan anda sendiri tidak memiliki data pada tulisan yang saya garis bawahi. mungkin anda beranggapan itu kebebasan berpendapat, lalu apa bedanya dengan yang dikatakan om @alankasman. padahal berita atau link yang mengatakan Bitcoin akan mencapai 1 juta USD itu tidak ada.  Grin mungkin saya akan mengatakan itu Kebohongan Publik

Masalah harga saya sih tidak begitu pandai memutuskan atau memperkirakan gan. Cuman saya cuma bisa mengira2 kalau proses tersebut bisa mempengaruhi harga bitcoin, itu saja gan.
berarti selama ini kalo trading cuma nebak-nebak harga dong? kayak dukun aja om  Tongue

~snip~
Jadi indikator yang mesti diperhatikan pada saat munculnya fundamental negatif, adalah Price Action.
saya rasa indikator Price Action tidak sepenuhnya akurat om seperti gambar dibawah ini, mending lebih ke RSI penentuan harga lebih terukur, karena terkadang munculnya Fundamental Negatif bersamaan dengan RSI yang Overbought begitu sebaliknya munculnya Fundamental Positif terkadang bersamaan dengan RSI OverSold.



Perhatikan Tanda Panah
1. Indikator Price Action menunjukkan area Jual, dengan perbandingan lain terjadinya Shotingstar Candlestick tapi yang terjadi harga Bitcoin malah naik, harusnya kan turun.
2. Indikator Price Action menunjukkan area Beli, dengan perbandingan lain terjadinya Hammer Candlestik tapi yang terjadi harga Bitcoin malah turun, harusnya kan naik.

Disitulah saya beranggapan bahwa Indikator Price Action tidak sepenuhnya akurat dalam situasi apapun.
5478  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Diskusi] Analisa Teknikal Bitcoin buat day trader on: January 01, 2020, 06:07:44 AM
Sebelum nya saya ucapkan Selamat Tahun Baru 2020.
Di awal bulan ini saya ingin membuat Analisa Teknis lagi yang mana TA saya ini adalah bertujuan untuk menentukan titik potensi jual dan beli seperti yang saya lakukan tahun kemarin.

Sepanjang Tahun 2020 ini saya akan coba konsiten untuk sharing setiap minggu dan setiap bulan.

Oke Langsung Saja....  
Seperti Biasa Indikator yang saya gunakan:

Indikator:
  • Fibonasi Retracement
  • Parabolic SAR
  • RSI

TF 1W = Untuk Jangka Panjang


Fibonasi Retracement
Fibonasi Retracement saya gunakan sebagai penentuan titik Resisten dan Support.

Parabolic SAR
Indikator Parabolic SAR saat ini posisinya sedikit diatas candle sekitar di Harga 8110$ dan titik itu akan turun lagi pada tanggal 6 Januari nanti, dengan begitu kemungkinan tercapainya sangat tinggi dan apabila titik itu tercapai pada tanggal 6 Januari nanti berarti perubahan tren bearish akan terjadi ke bullish.

RSI
Masih berada di titik 42 dan cenderung stabil beberapa minggu terakhir.

Potensi Harga Bitcoin pair BTC/USD Sampai Tanggal 1 Januari 2021. TF 1W
Titik Kunci: 8147$


  • Resinten 3: 18,677$
  • Resisten 2: 14,527$
  • Resisten 1: 12,049$

Titik Kunci: 8147$

  • Support 1: 4182$
  • Support 2: Not Found
  • Support 3: Not Found

KESIMPULAN:
Jika BTC/USD diperdagangkan di atas titik kunci maka potensi tertinggi Harga Bitcoin sampai 1 Januari 2021 yaitu 18,677$
Jika BTC/USD diperdagangkan di bawah titik kunci maka potensi terendah Harga Bitcoin sampai 1 Januari 2021 saya tulis Not Found karena saya pikir untuk jangka panjang tidak mungkin mencapai S3.


Indikator:
  • Fibonasi Retracement
  • Parabolic SAR
  • RSI

TF 1D


Fibonasi Retracement
Fibonasi Retracement saya gunakan sebagai penentuan titik Resisten dan Support.

Parabolic SAR
Indikator Parabolic SAR saat ini posisinya dibawah candle kemungkinan naik masi ada, akan tetapi seiring berjalannya waktu (setiap hari) titik Parabolic SAR itu akan naik dan apabila tidak dapat mendorong harga maka kemungkinan tren bearish akan terjadi.

RSI
Masih berada di titik 46 dan cenderung stabil beberapa hari terakhir.

Potensi Harga Bitcoin pair BTC/USD Sampai Tanggal 1 Februari 2020. TF 1D
Titik Kunci: 7122$


  • Resinten 3: 8469$
  • Resisten 2: 7954$
  • Resisten 1: 7636$

Titik Kunci: 7122$

  • Support 1: 6609$
  • Support 2: 6289$
  • Support 3: 5774$

KESIMPULAN:
Jika BTC/USD diperdagangkan di atas titik kunci maka potensi tertinggi Harga Bitcoin sampai 1 Februari 2020 yaitu 8469$
Jika BTC/USD diperdagangkan di bawah titik kunci maka potensi terendah Harga Bitcoin sampai 1 Februari 2020 yaitu 5774$

DWYOR : (Do With Your Own Risk)
5479  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [ZAKY-CELL] Jual Beli Bitcoin - Voucher Indodax - Pulsa - Escrow on: December 31, 2019, 05:55:50 AM
Websitenya memang ga autoredirect ke https ya gan?
Sudah diperbaiki om, karena memang website nya baru selesai di build ulang. terimakasih sudah di ingatkan  Cheesy

Btw kalau ane beli pulsa dengan nominal di atas 500 ribu (katakan 1 juta), apakah ada diskon khusus?
Untuk pulsa sendiri kami menggunakan pulsa seperti M-kios dan semacam nya, bukan pulsa Transfer. jadi kalo nanya diskon saya usahakan ada tapi nominal tertentu dan mungkin tidak banyak.
5480  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: NEVER EVER deal Bitcoins with PAYPAL (F&F too!) on: December 31, 2019, 02:51:17 AM
In the case of BTC trading to Paypal you have to make transactions to those who have high trust, in this forum many people have high trust, so if you make a transaction to people who have high trust your funds will be safe. I often do this kind of transaction and everything runs smoothly. and I will not make transactions to those who do not have trust or with a newbie account.
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