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5461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: January 02, 2017, 09:07:03 AM
trading is a good way to get bitcoin or with the investment, however, Both jets require a lot of money in order to get good results. if you want to start from scratch, I think looking for a signature matching, will make you better. although the results are not too many, but it could be a start-up capital for investment or trading.
trading is not easy now. it become very risky. specially altcoin trading. there are lots of scam and fake altcoins idling around all exchanging sites (almost in all) and you can't really decide to choose which one to trade.. but you can still try that if you like. if luck with you. you can earn good BTC.
No No,trading not easy but not difficult,why?Because it will easy if we have to campaign and master,believe in yourself.Difficult because they don't read the chart,not control emotions and important is  no trust in yourself,so many people fail in trading
I don't know how campaigning can help you be better at trading. But I can assure you even if you are good at reading charts there is always a possibility of losing money. Technical Analysis they say is a tool to become rich in price movements but what they don't know is that it does not always works. Trading can always be unpredictable therefore you don't know how much you will profit in it.
5462  Economy / Economics / Re: WILL BITCOIN BE USED BY ALMOST EVERYONE IN 2022? on: January 02, 2017, 04:21:37 AM
Im thinking more like 2020 and everyone will be using bitcoin in one form or another.

I don't even think that 2020 or 2022 is bitcoin is on total adoption by that time. 3 - 5 years from now on is still not enough to make the people use bitcoin. But thinking about its earlier years it went very far by now and it seems that many people are getting into it everyday. Still I don't think with those given years bitcoin is not going to be used by almost everybody.

Yes, you are right, Bitcoin is becoming more popular every day. But it seems to me that not all of it will be used. Many simply do not trust Bitcoin. He will always be an alternative currency
It is hard to predict what will happen in our future. I do think that in 2022, almost people on this planet have heard about Bitcoin and some of them even use it as a primary currency. However, we can not deny the possibility that other altcoin will win the battle against Bitcoin. Etherium may become the new world famous cryptos
That is exact, bitcoin becoming the primary currency in 2022 is unclear due to many reasons. But this time it's not gonna be a battle between altcoins and bitcoins but between btc and fiat virtual currency.

At this point of time even if Microsoft integrates bitcoin into their programs it is hard to tell if bitcoin has still the upper hand in virtual currency when that time comes.
No it's not possible. Even the internet is not used by all the people in the world and it is out for years now, and you expect a limited currency like Bitcoin will be use by every person in the world. All people need to have access of the internet first before we expect people to be aware of Bitcoin. And also Bitcoin can be block by the government we can't expect anything for the future of Bitcoin as of yet.
5463  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: January 01, 2017, 05:32:29 PM
I think it's better to save. Investment is the high risk game and you never know what to expect from. I save the part of bitcoins that I get from my campaign and I may count this saving as investment, cause of the price for bitcoin is growing day by day.

Exactly, savings in bitcoin are actually considered as an investment as the amount increases with the time when the price increases, so if someone is saving in bitcoin then maybe they don't need any investment but still if someone wants more in less time then they will have to take risks of investing.
Yes saving Bitcoin actually work. But if you are really into maximizing your Bitcoin's earning power I would recommend converting your Bitcoin to Fiat. By having Fiat money many investments will arise from it from such as the Stock Market in which we all know putting our money into a good company is a very good way to earn without doing anything. Investments without directly investing your Bitcoin is a better way than saving your Bitcoin in your wallets.
5464  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: January 01, 2017, 07:14:35 AM
Yes Bitcoin is a hedge against inflation, it does bypass banks

though a Bank is getting a third party to hold and insure your

coin, just as with Fiat
Even though it can give a edge on inflation or even if the bank accepted that Bitcoin is better than Fiat one thing always hinders it for happening and it is the Government. Our government is in charge for the circulation of our official currency and all banks are only allowed to accept their own currency or sometime US $ currency other than that they won't recognize it as acceptable money.
5465  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: December 31, 2016, 07:35:45 AM
Bitcoin appeared once - it was totally different from other payment systems. And since then, and say that Bitcoin is dead. In fact, the constant hype surrounding it. And always will be
If you allow the most vulnerable segments of the population - migrant workers and all those who do not have bank accounts - to exchange money at greater distances it will strengthen the bitcoin will not fidget and talk about the collapse.
Everyday we hear rumors about anything from having a global market crash to the world ending, and I don't think most of the people don't care at all. So what I know is that in Bitcoin's case most of its users are not worries about that including me. Bitcoin's correction in the market is normal just like other things such as gold which has occasionally drop but always get back up. What I am saying here you don't need to worry about Bitcoin being dead in the foreseeable future.
5466  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does a President Trump mean for Bitcoin? on: December 31, 2016, 05:10:54 AM
Doesn't he have many other things to concentrate on? But he's Trump, no one can predict anything about him. As far as I have observed, he's more into war rather than the economy. So I guess he won't give a fuck about Bitcoin. Roll Eyes
Well he can affect Bitcoin indirectly as a matter of fact he can have an affect on everything. For example Bitcoin can be affected by the price of US dollars in which Trump has full power on controlling it. Also when you have a knowledge about the markets each countries market has a global effect on everyone. We can see that Bitcoin's price depends on fiat value now we will know if Trump has a good effect on it or not.
5467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your good intentions regarding Bitcoin in 2017? on: December 30, 2016, 06:31:49 PM
If personal issues is counted than my good intention for my Bitcoin is to hold it and later on convert it to Fiat when Bitcoin's price is up. Bitcoin earning is now part of my life as it really help me have an extra boost in my financial situation. It really helped me have savings without even bothering my real money. Later on the money will be use in Investing in the stock market. I am still young and I am hoping that my money will be big later on.
5468  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 30, 2016, 10:50:03 AM
invest wherever you feel like losing btc.

No way mate, its not that you are going to invest your bitcoins and risk it for something that you feel losing it. That's why we are investing our bitcoins so that we can grow it and to get some profit. But if you are thinking that way, better to think on the opposite side and think for other types of investments that you think you have more chance of getting profit and can manage it well like trading.

hey ive invested. made some lost some. made more than i lost. did some research, dived in.

BUT what i mean is if you dont expect it back, kiss it goodby (invest only what you can lose with a smile), when it pays, sometime a little, sometimes a lot, it is Good.

we are all invested in btc when you get down to it.
I think you have mentioned a wrong statement. Maybe what you are saying is Invest wherever you think you are gaining. But it is not that easy before you make a move in investing your money on something  you must study it first you must know the risk involve and how much will you be gaining from it. After that you may know what is the best for your plan.
5469  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Very little Press Coverage of Bitcoin's Rally this time on: December 30, 2016, 06:28:59 AM
Don't worry, press coverage will start soon enough - probably after Bitcoin reaches 4 digits. Although there is some reporting, it's actually good that journalists are still sleeping. Rallies fueled by mass media are the least sustainable. Uninformed people that only buy because of greed triggered by mainstream media tend to be quickly disappointed. We don't need that.

In my opinion the recent price moves are driven by real demand - mostly from India. So I would think that this rally is a bit more sustainable than the previous mega-bubble.

ya.ya.yo!

Its a chinese exchange pump, don't fool yourself lol

This is true. We are slowly beginning to be in a bubble as it once was during the end of 2013. I wonder what "real" demand is yayayo talking about because the only organic growth where it is happening is in the dark markets. As long as there are drug addicts willing to use Bitcoin and criminals willing to to take it as payment, there will be some demand for it as a currency. So far that demand is not as big as everyone would like to imagine.
What? You are actually promoting the use of Bitcoin by drug addicts and criminals, and you are actually loving it? I don't know what to say because even yourself, a Bitcoin user, only think of us as a whole that we are bad guys. How can we have more press coverage if ourselves think that the currency we use can only be use by criminals?
5470  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Starbucks accepting bitcoin on: December 30, 2016, 05:57:08 AM
In my country, a Bitcoin exchanger (coins.ph) recently launched their own virtual credit card, I plan to load my Starbucks card using that virtual credit card, if it works, then maybe I can say that Starbucks in my country accepts Bitcoin through a VCC but if its direct paying Starbucks using Bitcoin then we don't have it yet here.

It would be better for you to keep all your Bitcoin savings intact because there is really no need for them to be spent to buy coffee in Starbucks of all places. Just use cash. It is a better form of payment for your daily wants and needs.
I think he is just expressing his opinion about the matter of being able to use Bitcoin through his wallet to buy a coffee. He did not specifically say that he will be using his Bitcoins to pay his coffee, he is just planning because there is a possibility of using a Virtual Credit Card to buy anything. It is like using your Bitcoin but with more uses because Credit Cards are accepted almost anywhere.
5471  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: December 29, 2016, 06:54:28 PM
You can get passive earning by investing in shares. Or maybe real estate somwhere at good location where is big demand so the value is rising. Or from valuable watches, jewlery, art, gold. Bitcoin could be also source of passive income if you have invested it somwhere or maybe just by holding it and waiting for price to go up.
No not agree with you these source can not be source of passive income, these source can be investment source but can's be passive income source. Getting a real job or a business income e.g. regular income from a shop can be passive income.

I can see you two have two opposite opinions over there, and I'm afraid I can't agree with you. A job or a shop usually brings to you an ordinary life, nothing special. Investing in shares, real estate, gold,... are common ways to get rich, and works for lots of people. I personally believe in bitcoin too.
"Getting a Real Job" itself means you are working for you to earn money. Having a real job is not a passive income rather it is a main source of income. Let us not confuse ourselves with simple terms. A passive income is a source of income in which it generates revenue without your everyday work. Passive income such as interest or bond payments are good source of passive income.
5472  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: December 29, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
I now have all the savings invested in different projects. Some of the projects with little or no risk, but in spite of that, I do not keep the money just idle

There are no such thing as no risk investment, there is always a risk to every investment even if it is only a small risk however most of the time when people said that there is a small risk investment the return rate for that investment is also low so it is totally not worth the time to keep money in such investment while some better investment exist

You are right that in any investment they have a part of the risk involved. But, if you know on what your invest and you have a deep knowledge of the market, you reduce the risk considerably.

I think a person need to have a mix of both, you need to save a little to have access to money in case of an emergency. Also, you need to have investments for the sole purpose to grow your money over time for the future.

I agree. Saving and investing goes hand and hand. People need it invest and save some money. Investing activities might not result into the planned outcome and if that happens, savings will save people from going bankrupt and hungry. So saving is also important. People can't also just invest everything. If they do invest everything, there is a chance to lose everything.
That is one bold move about investment. Saying "Don't keep your money Idle" is not a god suggestion. In Investing it requires certain kind of decisions, decisions that will determine if you will either gain or lose money. You just don't put your money in anything because the chance of losing  your hard earned money will be easy if you make quick and random decisions.
5473  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE CASINO - 100BTC MAX WIN, WAGERING CONTEST! 1ST PRIZE 1 BTC ENDS JAN 2ND on: December 29, 2016, 03:44:52 AM

I as well also following that hack me bounty thread. Someone accept the challenge it is UGMZ. He said we will give him a month in order to penetrate bitdice system. I hope he will find a hole in bitdice system in order to aware bitdice that their system is not secured and some pro hackers can penetrate and do some coding to their system to steal money from them. Anyways Good Job bitdice for making your security strict and for now not hackable.
The fact that that bounty hacker will require a month to crack bitdice security to try and penetrate is already a proof that bitdice has done a good job in implemwnting a very secure security in their site. It'll be nice to see what that bounty hunter will be able to do after a month. I'll follow him and see if he'll be able to crack bitdice security.
Yes, usually hackers will not prefer long attempts (they do want quick results or they will move on to next things) so, literally we are already in safe with respect to bitdice's security systems and measurements.

I always do check that topic for update till date, bitdice's ideas are proven as rock solid against hackers.
No, hackers aren't easy giving up types. i think the expert hackers won't be willing to hack/bypass bitdice just for 1 btc, either they need more bounty/ time to figure out how to get more once there're in.
And on top of that if they are black hat they will take that btc for themselves.
Atleast if they are white hat or even gray hat they will hack that account but give it back or to charity. Maybe even to the people that lose their dice bets there. Wink
That is why it is important to have a secure website when betting, and I might say Bitdice as of experience has one of the best security. Even I is having some time to validate my log in to the site. For the overall security of the site I might say that it has no bottlenecks.
5474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 28, 2016, 12:32:31 PM
My source of bitcoin is bitcointalk. I always join in tip threads. But I think the best source of bitcoin is Gambling and Trading because many of my friends get many bitcoin there. But not always good source of bitcoin because in trading or in gambling theres always a winner and a loser.
Yes I agree quick way to get bitcoin is gambling or trading. But we must consider risks, i recommend one secure and proven way to multiply bitcoin is by mining. Moreover, if we use solar energy is certainly faster turnover. The way such as gambling, trading and HYIP is need speculation and risk, but with mining everything is clear.
Mining is not profitable because electricbill is too high. I think you cant earn quick here because you need to invest big money to buy solar panel and other things so only few people can do it profitable. So If we are not rich we can avail this.
Yes Gamblimg might be a quick fix to earn Bitcoin but if you look at it in another sense it is a quick way to lose money also. We all know that gambling has a major risk involve in which you can lose all your money that you bet. I cannot count it as a good source of Bitcoin because it is not stable and you don't know how much you will profit from it.
5475  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should people use Bitcoin? on: December 28, 2016, 06:08:08 AM
For me using Bitcoin is not necessary because I am looking for growth in terms of prices. It is a matter of preference on how you will use your Bitcoin is it for investment, for extra income, for some kind of payment method or a mix of all of them. Bitcoin has many purpose it is not only money. We can say that even holding Bitcoin is counted as using it.
5476  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no competition on: December 28, 2016, 04:34:29 AM
Well it seems like it. The price keeps getting higher. TBH Bitcoin is really the only crypto I'm currently familiar with. I see some movements in other altcoins but it looks like they'd spike and then crash, not unlike bitcoins steady rise.

It definitely benefited from being a pioneer coin.
A cryptocurrencies' success does not always depend on having a high price or not. We can't really tell something is better because it is more expensive sometimes they don't belong to the same category. Well to be honest in terms of users Bitcoin is leading the cryptocurrency world also the demand of it getting higher and higher everybody which means is it still # 1.
5477  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we need ebay like site to promote bitcoin on: December 28, 2016, 03:42:23 AM
Fortunately we have that kind of site and its name is overstock.com. It is similar to ebay and is accepting Bitcoin as payment. From shoes to gadgets they have it. The problem is overstock is still not know as ebay but I know overstock is popular to Bitcoin users. But for me I can't say they will promote Bitcoin because they also have several payment options not only Bitcoin.
5478  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: December 28, 2016, 02:45:06 AM
How can they say the bitcoin is dead with price good as this? I think that demand for the coins is on the rise and with the good price bitcoin is attracting new users. But not all people are familiar with bitcoin and some of those who have heard of it think that it's banned or illegal or beeing used only on deepweb.

This thread is a very old thread and people who have said the bitcoin is dead are people before who experience a tremendous deflation in bitcoin. But definitely this time their minds have changed and no longer continue to say that bitcoin is dead. Its just that this thread is attractive so many are commenting on this thread. Bitcoin will live and will meet my grandchildren in the future.
Like any other things with price from stocks to oil they all have trends. People who believe that Bitcoin is dead can't control their emotions and don't know anything about the market trend. Market Trends goes on occasional ups and downs it is normal and it is how to make the most profit. Some people take advantage of it and make a living with it.
5479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: December 27, 2016, 08:33:40 PM
It seems that experts say that Bitcoin 'Here to Stay,' But Banks Could Disappear.
The best example for this is people have started using bitcoin as a mean of receiving and sending money over the internet, and I think many will do so as bitcoin becomes omnipresent, banks will start adopting bitcoin because everyone thinks that it is the future of money.

It means banks will disappear or banks will change themselves as bitcoin banks.

Banks might adapt also bitcoin, its terms and uses. It seems impossible that bank will disappear . Banks were use by many and operated by lots of businessmen they might get bankrupt butI I know they will not let things happen, they were business minded anyway they might know bitcoin by now.
really needed a lot of times to make bitcoin beat banks.
even if then bitcoin exist and have more user than banks i don't think this is a realistic thought.
so far people have no trust as when they trust banks, bitcoin is still to young to be able do that.
By the time Bitcoin is forming a serious threat to the banking system, governments will come to action and put all kinds of policies into place to hold back Bitcoin's growth.

That's still somewhat of a more friendly approach as governments can also choose to put a total ban in place. That's also a realistic possibility.

That's why I am happy with how Bitcoin is operating right now. It's an alternative currency, investment and store of value tool. As long as it stays like this, governments won't have any incentive to ban Bitcoin.
How can banks turn into Bitcoin banks if even the government does not allow the use of Bitcoin anyway? There is no sense of thinking that a limited currency can change all banks. If we think of it this way that Bitcoin cannot be a form of stable business because it is volatile and also limited a price change can determine whether you have earned or not.
5480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no competition on: December 27, 2016, 06:22:42 PM
All those FUDsters that where saying year ago how Bitcoin would fail because another currency would take over get proven wrong year after year. The more time Bticoin is alive, the stronger it gets and the bigger the network effect. Sorry but there will not be a Bitcoin 2.0. Bitcoin will go to 100k+ per coin in the next 5 to 10 years, it will absorb all the value researched in the field if not directly through protocol improvements then through sidechains.

Bitcoin will remain the only solid coin. The only coin that survived for the longest time (other coins can't claim this unless they invent a time machine).
There will be alts that pump really hard and make people millionaires, but no alt is going to surpass Bitcoin's strength and solidity. No coin will get a bigger marketcap. In the long term people holding 21+ BTC will be rewarded by history with rich-tier status for seeing the value in it before most people did. Do not let the FUDsters trick your mind or the trolls try to derrail the excellent job being done by Core devs.

Let's continue then our path towards inevitable triumph.

There might be a new coin that can compete with bitcoin, it's called Grancoin

Are you serious or you are just trolling, I have never heard of your coin. For now Bitcoin is the Boss, even the other projects acknowledge this.
Everything gets old after the effect of hype subdues. I think right now cryptocurrencies is still growing as it is not yet prominent in all of the countries which means it has room to grow. Right now only a few percentage of the world's population know anything about Bitcoin we can say that Bitcoin's future is still safe to be considered that it has no competition but every year there are new kinds of innovation that has a chance to dethrone Bitcoin. It is only a matter of time.
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