dga or tromp, any desire to make 1 BTC and help jl777?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1524143.msg15334660#msg15334660

I haven't taken the time to digest Equihash well enough to articulate an algorithm in pseudo-code.

I realize 1 BTC is probably insufficient for your time.

P.S. I am not involved in that in any way other than being aware that jl777 wants it.

It is an interesting point, but the performance improvements he desires can be accomplished with encapsulation by employing polymorphic types (storing a header of type H that the Person type can't operate on because it only knows it is an H but the container collection can) but of course this binds the instances (e.g. of Person) to the type of H they were constructed with so they can't be added to other types of containers that require another type for H. But his C solution also makes this conflation.

The reason to prefer C over C++ is that C has a smaller surface area of base concepts whereas C++ has everything and the kitchen sink in its 1500 page manual.

When it comes to performance, a skilled C programmer can beat an average C++ programmer who utilizes the STL. So jl777 wants to understand the algorithms well enough so that he can create a C implementation. This seems to be a worthwhile activity as it will make the Zcash PoW algorithm accessible to C programmers who hate C++ of which there are probably many.

I would bet that if you can write down the algorithms in a simple pseudo code which he can easily translate to C, then I bet he'd probably pay you the bounty.

I've got to get my crypto-currency design launched first, before developing other decentralized applications.

Dan has done some good work and experimentation that even influences some of my designs.

I don't think DPOS is the best we can nor is it acceptable, because after all PoS means the majority can decide to fork it. I mentioned some other weaknesses recently for DPOS (lazy to dig up the link). I want to take away the power of anyone to fork. Only proof-of-burn will work as a fork methodology after I am done changing the crypto-currency landscape with the first major overhaul of proof-of-work since Satoshi.

As for DEX trading, I think it is probably useful for exchanging not in real-time. For serious traders, they need a system that can't give any party any leverage. I haven't analyzed Dan's decentralized market place tech recently to see where he ended up and what are the strengths and weaknesses.

I've got so many fish to fry, that real-time trading stuff is a low priority for me. jl777 is working on that too, so I try not to duplicate the areas that those two others are already working on.

I'll be doing other important achievements for decentralization.

And if I go quiet it means there is a better chance it may actually come to market. If I am here talking, you will know it will never come to fruition.

I'd probably have more to say if I took more time to think about it, but I've wasted enough of my and your time today foruming.

StinkyLover, my gf says I am so very stinky because I didn't have time to take a shower for 3 months (well I finally took one yesterday). I offered her some my dick cheese and she said, "ewww". It was really bad, I could even smell myself (that is when you know it is bad when the fumes are visibly rising like the old Vics vaporrub commercials).

I would have more empathy for the Ethereum folks had they not ridiculed me when I tried to warn them before and got banned from the forum for warning them. As you know, I've since learned to back off and not pick sides (not because of the bans which I could give a fuck, but because I realized it was counter to allowing the free will that nature requires).

So I am not picking sides here. I expect Ethereum will fork and live on, but somehow less spell binding than it was before.

Those guys had fun, had a good run, got paid high salaries, etc..

Others of us can take a stab at it too and see if we can do better.

Those guys might pop back with new projects or a renewed Ethereum.

I guess I should try to view it from your likely perspective. You were probably really thinking that Ethereum was really awesome and could really change the world. If I had thought that about Ethereum then my attitude would have been much different. I had technical reasons for not falling for that delusion.

Nevertheless I am surprised that in the end of it, I ended up enamored with a better conceptual design for a DAO which does not pool funds. So I got to admit, Ethereum bit me.

Perhaps that is no consolation to you.

I wish we didn't have to fight. Well actually I love sports competition, but for me that isn't a "fight". Argument is good when it is constructive (or destructive but worthwhile). I guess it is the nature of the game we are in. Good luck to all of you.

I am not sure if I respect the attacker. He might be a blowhard or he might be more capable than me (not that I am particularly capable at hacking or networking, because my skill is more in design). I intend to find out. No doubt he can commandeer more resources than I can.

He only used that as a bait to incite the Ethereum community to dig a deeper hole by proposing forks and doing whitehat attacks. He laid a trap.

The only lawsuit that is coming is the class action lawsuit from DAO and ETH holders that will be wiped out by the collapse in the price once the attacker has finished depleting the USG.MIT who have been manipulating the price and absorbing all the selling. Well that is the conspiracy theory anyway.

He is making his profit from shorting. He never expected to get the ETH. He wants to profit while destroying Ethereum.

I was too sleepy at the tail end of that marathon day yesterday when this debate heated up at the end with 4 against one sleepy one.

smooth et al, you forgot another key point. You argued the high difficulty would only cause the miners to win a block every day ~200 minutes instead 2 mins (assuming the more plausible 100X hashrate attack), but the miners will leave because they become unprofitable (as the block reward doesn't increase but the length of time they need to mine for the same reward increases by 100).

So the your mining hashrate actually drops to 0 also under the attack scenario.

Duh!

PWNED.


PWNED. REKTD.

Last post before I go jogging and hopefully kick myself out of forum addiction mode...


Well quarks are greater than 0, not that it matters.


I wasn't thinking of the government cracking down on Bitcoin. I am thinking of my technology which can obsolete Bitcoin.


The global elite (not the expendable pawns that Popsicle thinks he is fighting @Dao/Eth) created Bitcoin to be the TrojanHorse for globalized Technocracy when they crash the nation-states. I am curious how compartmentalized Popsicle isn't.

One more:


That feature is the flaw of Turing-complete scripting, which myself (and numerous others) personally told the founders of Ethereum would lead to the clusterfuck they have now:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505886.msg15278364#msg15278364
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505886.msg15284692#msg15284692
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505886.msg15306066#msg15306066

So the bug is in Ethereum, as explained in layman's terms here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523492.0

To fix the bug, they have to fix each instance of failure with a fork. This may be seen as a feature by those who are alleged to be behind this alleged conspiracy.

This is an inexorable bug, or until death do us part.

That feature is the flaw of Turing-complete scripting, which myself (and numerous others) personally told the founders of Ethereum would lead to the clusterfuck they have now:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505886.msg15278364#msg15278364
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505886.msg15284692#msg15284692
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1505886.msg15306066#msg15306066

So the bug is in Ethereum, as explained in layman's terms here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523492.0

To fix the bug, they have to fix each instance of failure with a fork. This may be seen as a feature by those who are alleged to be behind this alleged conspiracy.

This is an inexorable bug, or until death do us part.

Haha. Translation:

"alt molester" == "child (of Bitcoin) molester" && "child (of Bitcoin) molester" === "son of a bitch"

(note I am not agreeing with any thing, consult your own attorney)

Ah this is getting much more interesting to me now.

Am I reading this correctly, that Popsicle head is under the delusion that no one can kill Bitcoin. lulz.

Also I wonder if he contemplates whether he and/or Bitcoin are/is a tool for the global elite. Not that I know that to be a falsifiable theory.

I empathize, but it is not consolation for those who have to be the brunt of his problem.

He needs to give himself a swift kick in the ass and start running every day, kick the addiction, to switch his life back on. Well never give other people advice. He just probably doesn't realize I am not a callous person. But again as addiction illness goes, it is nearly impossible for the patient to be objective about the internal problem and its outward effects.

(I fight every day against a chronic illness and give all my effort. At least his is curable with effort. Mine not certain. He should realize how lucky he is and seize the opportunity on health that others don't have.)

The ideological argument is secondary to the fact that Ethereum was inescapably fucked from the day they launched:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523492.0

How is Andreas fornicating with his "overtaking the world" memes the past few hours?

Aha, Ethereum core BCT promoter confirms the irrefutable power of unstoppable organization:

The Bitcoin scripting layer is not powerful enough to do the killer app for smart contracts that I have in mind.

Apology I didn't give you anything to refute.

Hope you don't mean side-chains and Rootstock. I've already refuted the likelihood of that being technically sound.

I wasn't aware that the original source was making that presumption (well I vaguely remember an allusion to Bitcoin copy coins). It makes sense though, as it is a lot more practical to attack with ASICs you already have.

But the reason I don't think the original source means what you think it means, is because the author linked to that article again in the recent discussion of his DAO hack. So it seems he thinks it is still applicable to relevant altcoins (i.e. worth even attacking), of which none that I know of use SHA256.

Any way, it is sometimes difficult to know what that author thinks because he is cryptic.

I note that initially the Daotacker empathetically offered to stop at 33% drainage of the DAO; thus only a 33% haircut for the fools who invested in this hairbrained idea to pool $168m.

His one stipulation was that there be no forks and so he would be allowed to keep his bounty in exchange for availing of the feature in the smart contract.

The Ethereum community not satisfied with the -33% spanking, tried to fight back by proposing forks and preparing a whitehat counter attack. With the popular support of the forks advancing in violation of his empathetic offer, the daotacker resumed his attacks by offering miners what appears to be a share in the spoils of the remaining 67% of the formerly undrained DAO tokens.

The whitehat group seized this as an excuse to launch their counter-splitting-attack.

The daotacker responded by splitting the whitehat's splits to drain them anew.

The Ethereum community has by now walked themselves into a corner with the only options being:

• a perhaps inexorable hacking fight over the split coins
• allowing the daotacker to take 100% of the DAO tokens (convertible to ETH at 0.1 par)
• or forking Ethereum

So now instead of taking a -33% haircut and being able to live on, it appears Ethereum can only die (perhaps a slow and torturous terminal decline). It either dies by losing 100% of the DAO tokens or by forking. If they fork, some fanboiz will remain, but enough of the CC community will hate Ethereum so much that it will suffer being persistently maligned. If they instead allow the daotacker to take the 100% of the DAO tokens, there will be likely class action lawsuits and/because the fanboiz will be emaciated.

If they had only taken the -33% haircut instead of doubling-down on self-belief. But the class action lawsuits were likely perceived to be on the horizon.

Or if they had never launched this delusional smart contakes in the first place.

On top of this, the daotacker might possibly be employing shorts and price swings to bankrupt the alleged permabull manipulators of the Ethereum price.