It seems like amount paid should be proportional to the amount of time between payouts. I understand paying out less often for smaller miners but if the purse is empty, they're disproportionately penalized.

Good point.

Hah, no. Because either there will be a billion asics from other companies already mining or all the bitcoins will already have been mined.

Cool. I sent him a potential logo (for use to indicate that it's a firstbits address). It was only a rough but I'll send you a copy too later.

This will sort itself out in time if Bitcoin is worth a damn. Trying to force things will probably result in unintended consequences (and somebody taking your money).

You may want to contact him directly. If it comes up for sale, it will likely be snapped up by domain squatters.

If you look hard enough, you can see patterns in anything

Well, as the guy who administers the firewall, I don't think that's the case . My home network is pretty much straight-through outbound. It looks like some connections are being made but the handshake is failing. I'll take another look tonight.

Maybe on the front end.

It doesn't look terribly promising. Mostly it looks like it's connecting to three ips and then the handshakes are timing out.


Think I'm going to leave it for a while. It's bedtime anyway

Indeed I can. I am also capable of drawing logical conclusions. Though I've worked with code enough that not much surprises me, "downloading shares" does not particularly imply a causal link to "authorization denied" to me.

If that is the cause though, I'm happy to take it at that. Now I need to work out why it doesn't seem to be getting any shares, just a lot of handshake timeouts. I set up the port forward but it doesn't seem to have helped. Do I just need to leave it doing its thing for a while?

Having a little trouble. No luck searching and this thread is a little long to trawl through.

I think I have it all right. bitcoin.conf set up, running the Bitcoin Wallet, running p2pool, can connect with a browser and empty logs show up but when I try to connect with the miner, no luck


As far as I know, the username and password should not matter so no idea why this is failing. Any ideas?

Thanks

I'd be all for jumping on a team working on an alternative exchange. Only I'm a bit bullish about the realities of running one in the US. The government is going to start making peoples lives hard when they realize they're not getting as big a slice of the pie as they'd like.

I think somebody is already doing that. MtGox just has the name recognition for now. The number really isn't all that important anyway.

Calm down, the govt is printing it as fast as they can....

Even if he does, this really isn't a job for one man anymore.

And that is exactly the kind of thought that can lead to this kind of problem. Often there is a lot more complexity than one would expect. Sometimes there are clever ways to get around this with pre-caching, indexing and other kinds of optimization but if you're not expecting the complexity, you're not going to be ready for it.

I was actually considering setting up an exchange myself a couple of years back. Coincidentally enough, for Pokemon trading cards (and also separately considered for video games). I didn't get much past the "pondering it" stage but I could see there were hidden depths that could catch the unwary.

It's not unusual for systems not to be designed to scale well, particularly when the need to scale is hard to foresee. Sometimes it's just under-specced hardware, sometimes it's unfortunate architecture decisions, sometimes it's something as simple as neglecting to add an appropriate index to a table (I have seen that drop a query lasting over a minute to sub-second response). Then, not only is your system suddenly struggling under a load, it's so busy that it's hard to interrupt it to perform necessary upgrades. Sort of a catch-22.

What also doesn't help is that your system can be performing fine up to maybe 95% capacity then you cross a threshold and everything goes to crap. Queries start failing so people start hammering the system more trying to get their information instead of getting it in a nice steady flow. You start falling behind and things just go from bad to worse, you're spending your time catching up instead of servicing new queries and because of this, people are putting in more and more new queries. Your problem is generating problems.

Now, ideally, MtGox would have spent some time architecturing things so that things could have scaled easily. Then again, ideally Cyprus wouldn't have set things up so that they had to dip into peoples bank accounts so...

You either don't work in IT or haven't worked there long enough.