Since newbies can't post images. Screenshot order: 18, 19, 20, 21, 13, 14, 15, 10, 11, 12, 16, 17 as per request of Ghzoan (OP)
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If this was sorted that greatly by you, why are you doing your best to cover everything up? A business operating within morally acceptable borders doesn't push it's customers into signing some wicked NDA (I suspect that's what happened with jason). Or how can you explain that he is not willing to share details about his settlement when he initially was so open about sharing this situation? Why does he say "I can't tell more" if not because you made him shut up?
Lutpin, the agreement is with the player and the software provider. This was never a dispute with Betcoin and our player. It was a dispute with our player and the software provider. As far as we are concerned, he can share any specifics that he wants and we never even asked him to sign an agreement with us. We never needed an agreement, a settlement or for him to shut up and encouraged him not to shut up and spoke to him nearly everyday about the matter. This was a dispute with the software provider. We actually want him to speak more about it and say whatever he wants. If, as you say, the problem lied with Betsoft vs jasonort, then why did you deliberately change the terms of service to act as if jasonort did not meet the requirements to win the jackpot, and intentionally did not change the "Last updated" date until far after the incident was "resolved"?
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So did he paid you 40 coins already or not? Is it still under investigation or are the rest of the 40 coins also released? And if you claim you deposited more then 0.01, how much was it then? And did you got muted by a mod, or got a message a Admin muted you? yes, i didnt get rest 40, it was btw 1 to 5, 3-4 times done deposit, i didnt get any msg just "u muted" Did you lose any of your deposits in that timeframe? Do you have transaction ID's to prove that you deposited? (As irrelevant as this question may seem, it carries some weight)
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I just found out today (my second day of logging in), that, because I am a US citizen, I can only play for free. **pouts** That really sucks... Not that i was going to deposit anything for a while, but yeah... It's not like our government acknowledges Bitcoin as anything, I mean they certainly don't accept it to pay them in taxes... so... **shifts eyes and mumbles something about greedy-tax-slurping-bastards**
Some people suggested some ways around it, but heck, I don't know how to use proxies or anything like that; besides, it's kinda cheating the rules at that point.
Try hola. It is a simple chrome extension that you can get for free. I find it pretty easy to use and it should work for PD to. Or, get someone else that you trust in a country that is not restricted to deposit for you, and when they get the deposit, they can tip you on PD no problems. Oh, hey! Thanks for the suggestion! So, does that mean that I can withdraw just fine then? **scratches head** Or does that same person have to withdraw too? The amount is tipped to you, i.e your account. You should be able to withdraw at that point.
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which part we cant agree instead of saying your withdraw is pending because we are investigating possible cheat/exploit just bare little with us
why all those unnecesary questions?
I think perhaps now you're starting to form the picture here. Hypothesize: if the player was in fact cheating but Edward paid him the coins, what then? Instead, if you can link the coins to someone whom you can penalize (perhaps legally) then you are able to recover the coins and also deter future cheating.
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Edward had reason to suspect you for other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.
In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.
You will likely be paid within the day
Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward. You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance. FUCK U AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE DUMB FAMILy. I HAVE MADE MORE. I have made from 0.2 to 140btc. The fact that u are a poor dumb and sstupid gambler dosnt mean everybody is like u You realize that although the amount you won is higher, the % increase is much greater from OP's bets? 140 / 0.2 = 700x your original deposit 80 / 0.01 = 8000x the original deposit. If you won as many times as OP did, then you would've finished with 1600 bitcoins, more than 10x what you say that you returned with. did anyone said he played with 0.01 on every bet till 80 btc? Thats the point they are avoiding. They tslking llike he was betting 0.01 and won till 80btc. If he lost 80btc, these scums will say its fair Irrelevant with what I stated. It doesn't matter whether you played with 0.01 until 80 BTC or if you went and doubled or anything else. It's still 8000x the original deposit. At the very best, a 1 in 8167 chance when playing at Primedice. It was probably an even lower chance if they wagered more, due to house edge.
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Edward had reason to suspect you for other reasons than you turning 0.01 into 80 coins there was an unusual circumstance to do with your win otherwise. He held your cashout and asked for additional information (not something I would have done personally but I stand by it) so he could in good mind process your withdrawal. There has never been a situation where we required information in order to push a withdrawal, only to potentially speed up. Your win is under investigation and will be paid if no foul play is found, if you had provided information it would have been processed on the spot.
In the past Ed did this with a user hufflepuff who refused to give information, he was cashed out for 2400 in wins despite not providing information. You were sent half your payment and I ask that you remain patient for the remainder while we investigate your case. I'll also be discussing this matter with Edward as I think him asking for that sort of information is not useful regardless and it sets a bad precedent.
You will likely be paid within the day
Holy shit, never thought if that amount is 80 btc, and he won that just from 0.01 btc. Thanks for the clarification stunna, so we all know if hes real edward. You are a fool. Its possible to winb10000000 btc from 0.01. And 80btc is not that big. Afterall people loose thousands of coins and fuckers like u act like its normal and fuckers like nlico come screaming provably fair. STUNNA GO LEARN HOW PROVABLY FAIR WORKS Fool? Can you made that amount from same like OP did? 0.01 -> 80 btc? If you can't, don't act like you already made decent amount from small balance. FUCK U AND FUCK YOUR WHOLE DUMB FAMILy. I HAVE MADE MORE. I have made from 0.2 to 140btc. The fact that u are a poor dumb and sstupid gambler dosnt mean everybody is like u You realize that although the amount you won is higher, the % increase is much greater from OP's bets? 140 / 0.2 = 700x your original deposit 80 / 0.01 = 8000x the original deposit. If you won as many times as OP did, then you would've finished with 1600 bitcoins, more than 10x what you say that you returned with. Even if you bet at 4950x in Primedice and then 1.617x which gives you about 8000x, that's a 0.012244% chance of happening - a 1 in 8167 chance. For someone to win at those odds and that initial deposit, it obviously seems suspicious. You would literally be more than 5x as likely to win betting on a number twice in American roulette than you would be to win that much.
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Betcoin Jessica stopped by chat earlier I see. Grabbed the archive and edited it down to relevant comments and reversed the bottom to top reading order. Entire unedited version here: https://archive.is/pSjUZ[chatlog]-snip-[/chatlog] Seems like all Betcoin can do is reply with ignorance and pretending like they're above everything, acting as if nobody knows what's going on (or that they're trolls and spammers deliberately trying to slander their name). Even as ungod brings up decisive evidence, Betcoin Jessica tries their best to try and pretend like the correlation is absent. The only thing that's stark is their conscience. The continuance of this corruption is unacceptable. Or they share not winnable money from the 'jackpot' pool.
I guess Betcoin wants to try and wrassle as much money as they can out of their players before they all leave, instead of trying to create a fair platform to keep them there.
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Waiting for an update from coinmillions.com. Their account was last active today at 12:30 forum time, so they've been on BCT. It's been two days since they've stated: Ok, We are importing all the contestants and will present a winner later today! Than you all for taking part in this weeks promo. You guys and gals rock!
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So this guy hermanhs09 from Coinroll signature campaign posts over 80 times in a day and over 170 posts in 2 days.I know forum doesn't have posting limit regulations but this cunt definitely deserves a temp ban.Not like his posts are very constructive and all.Thoughts ? Hmm... Let's say i am a shitposter. But i dont know which posts are you talking about,can you tell me which one actually? Im very curious about it. How are you able to create constructive posts when you reply within minutes of each post that you make? If there are clearly posts that have explained what you've stated, then there isn't a need to recycle that content and post it again and again. This post: Wow! Those damn chinamen kick serious ass.
Those Swedish pussies at KnC miner look like silly little bitches with their garbage Neptune mining junk. They don't understand shit about business and now they are driven away as another non-competitive clunk.
Those shrewd Jews can squeeze a penny until Lincoln screams, but Spondoolies couldn't stay competitive against the hyper efficient Chinese manufacturing.
Survival of the fittest my friend. The Jews and Swedes are OUT OF BUSINESS because the fucking Chinese kicked their asses.
What the hell is this post about? And where are your proofs? I would say im feeling the same like kryptqnick,you are talking some shit. But where are the proofs? can you provide any,or it is just talking without any sense? requires no thought whatsoever to construct it and you're not offering anything.
Likewise: I have 1 BTC right now, so that would mean that I would have 100,000,000 $. Of course, this will never happen ... Never say never, but this time you are right hahaha,you made my day Blackmet Im getting laughed all the time about these threads " what would you do if 1 sat is 1000$ " or something like that lol so many of them :O
this tutorial is very useful Im pasting it everywhere for people who dont know how to earn, it is faster to read it than write how to earn money with bitcoin Where are you pasting it? Nowhere?
It seems like you think that spacing out your one-liner into three lines means that it's not a one-liner anymore. I don't know anybody who can post 156 posts in 24 hours and still think that they're not spamming. That's only the average, too. In your peak times, you whip out posts like they're nothing!
EDIT: 6:27 PM Forum Time I found this. Why are you replying to an archival thread?! Hello BTCtalk,
I need someone who can post ads on CL, like 40 per day , I would pay per ad(0.6$ per ad) or per day(35$ for 40ads) !Also I would pay 10-15 $ in BTC for each good(UP on the site) autotrader or ebay listing. The payment will be through BTC ! Please reply here for more info or pm for my Jabber!
Thanks!
What is CL? because i probably could do something like this,it is not hard for me and i have a a lot of time free. Anyway just explain it here,dont send me any PM's alright? if the topic is still current.
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Give them warning for spamming people should deserve second chance not unless they are been red tag by dt2 members
warning is a must, because giving immediate black list for people is not fair it is like bullying and your taking the member the rights to get a decent sig if you do an fast execution,
remember they are not scammers they want to earn decent money by joining sigs not mentioning those who really intend to spam and posting 1 liner like yobit shit posters.
Dont Make Harsh move to much because it can give good and bad effect to this furom.
Why do you deserve a warning for doing something that is clearly indicated to be not permitted in the signature campaign guidelines? If you are put on the blacklist then it should be explicit as to why you were. Some users create posts leading up to just the character count that a signature campaign requires. If you look at a couple Meta threads about signature spam, you'll find that some people copy & paste, use a lot of recycled content, and sometimes literally repeat something they're quoting. The following are some examples of garbage: I do notice whenever I place a bet for a larger amount I always lose compared to if I placed a smaller one. That is always the case and I don't know why. It never seems to fail. Yes that is what happened to most of us. Basically the theory that explains this is, when you bet small and win you dont feel it and same with loose, but when you bet big and loose you feel a lot. Depends on what balance I got at the moment I gamble, if I got "some" big balance i'll go with high bets or if I just play for fun just with small amounts and yes it's fun though I can hit big anytime.
I'll stop gambling when I already win big or lose big. No point in being greedy, and no point in chasing losses. If I were to chase all my losses in gambling, I would be broke in the long run and be pretty much penniless whereas on the opposite situation, I might lose it all and be broke again.
You are true chasing our loses will make us lose more , so the better option is that we have to think for the future and have to play for today and have to forget about what we lose yesterday, with that we will be fair in there and will not lose everything. I stop when i lose all my money or when i already doubled my money
when you loose all your money you probably stop it because you have no other option except stopping it. this is not cool BTW. you should stop when you loose your first bet.
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Maybe i lost some amount on France tonight, but nice recover i got with this litle bet: Well, now you've redeemed a good chunk of your bankroll. What are you at now? I'm estimating ~800 mBTC? It's actually kind of amazing how much you've managed to recover from your fall. Maybe at this point it's time to play it safe so you don't go back down.
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-snippy snoop- Thanks to cryptodevil, Lutpin and mexxer-2, these guys are good people.So I think right to RED TRUST for all who sell/buy accounts for all who invest in HYIP, DOUBLE and PONZI SITE. These members - cryptodevil - dooglus - Stunna - Ryan - Vod - Lutpin - The Pharmacist - SFR10 - shorena - james.lent - Lauda I Love cats and dogs are good people, smart and has good reviews ... I think all newbies and members should follow their example. It's quite interesting seeing the opinion of someone who was given negative trust, for them to return positive messages to the ones who had sent it to them. I quite like how you understood the underlying factor of how they were against the promotion of scammy sites. If only more people were like you (reasonable) then perhaps the forum could return to a better state. I agree with the decision of permitting red trust. Negative feedback is given to those you cannot trust. If someone is selling an account and (directly/indirectly) causing scam/spam behaviors across the server, then it encourages that behavior. Likewise, the promotion of HYIP. Now, you choose where to place your money, so I'm fine with discrete investments so long as they aren't promoting (i.e. replying to the thread, participating in promotions, etc.) because obviously, it won't bring forum attention to it. The only problem here lies in when someone defaults a loan and the loaner accepts the account as collateral. Is it the fault of the loaner for accepting the account? I'm not stating my opinion on this question.
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I feel like you guys are seriously over-inflating the ratings of some of these sites. I see so many 9/10 ratings it's uncanny. Nowadays, everything is driven so high. Why? Username: actmyname All the reviews have been accepted and paid for. Transaction ID: d1ce585c9f03aac3b160f2dc45b0620cbf4d1e437a55a29ec3a0f5fff8e0a9b2Address: 1ActBTCi5XUMjqnyFxVWgSfE5xWicj8g3o EDITED: [June 11 18:33 Forum Time]
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Honestly this forum shouldnt be viewed as a paycheck. Posting for sig campaigns is a privilege. And obviously its not just 1 post that would earn them that tag. People need to realize the facts around here. Too much trash has been posted on a daily basis
Can I report here, is the Coinroll manager on board? "Too much trash has been posted on a daily basis" Like.. hermanhs09 Over 350 posts in (under) two days. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=378917Is this campaign pay per post? Looked over his posts. Definitely bad. The campaign is 0.25 usd per post, and 0.0005 usd * total posts daily. So that would be... approximately 0.1344 BTC from the posts and about 0.0033 BTC from the daily counts. The coinroll payments are manually paid every week, so notifying the campaign manager might be good. I'll do that right now. There's replies every single minute! Even sometimes there's two replies in the same minute! It's all oneliners spaced out to look like they've posted more. Total tally for the past 2 days as of this edit: 1:15 PM, EST - 337 posts from July 9th to July 10th
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When you are wearing a signature, you're advocating for that product. You're encouraging the use of it, and what if the source is not reliable? This seems as if it's a personal attack, but a part of the problem lies in the fact that as EcuaMobi stated earlier: Also, I do believe highly-trusted users and staff should be specially careful with what they promote. As I said long ago in a similar case: if the staff promotes a site newbies will think it's endorsed by the forum (I know it's not the case but it can look like it because of the 'Staff' legend). So they definitely need to check any site before promoting it.
Although the only explicit issue you can find about Betcoin is the Betsoft situation, research is still a necessity especially since TwitchySeal has laid out all of it on a thread. Doesn't the jasonort problem at least raise any alarms as to the fact that there might be something else going on? Even though he got his "settlement" (which is definitely a fraction of what he should have gotten) the entire situation started off with Betcoin's ignorance, which has happened on many occasions.
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It also feels like 98% of all of the long-term offers topics are absolutely terrible attempts at scams, and more than half of them are made by fresh accounts.
Perhaps instead of banning newbies from the main loan section, you ban them from the long-term offers subsection? The thing is, this also applies to the Securities section (which is, when offered by newbies, the same as an investor-based games topic). I don't know.
It just seems like because of the constant amount of scam attempts, the REAL newbies don't get a chance.
Oh, and another thing: these newbie threads can be home to lots of sig spamming for: "you need collateral" 5 times by different people or "nobody will give you this loan"
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Although I would agree with this concept in its foundation, I do think that there are two ways to do this:
If you create a blacklist, you would need to constantly add people to it but one of the pros to this is that you won't overlook anyone who posts good content.
If you create a whitelist instead, you can more easily create the list (it would be far smaller), however, it would also take some time to scour all the campaigns for high-quality posters.
Both of these take time, but you need to decide on one. Honestly, they're quite equal.
I would say that an appeal thread might be a good idea for users that wish to either leave the blacklist or get on the whitelist
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The lights are going out!! Is this what the end looks like? That's less than $20 swing. So far no crash, prices at same level than yesterday, considering the normal price fluctuation It looks bad until you zoom out. That's what happens when you focus on a small portion of time vs price. You can pretty much take any trough from a random daily point and make it look like it's a staggering crash. Don't extrapolate from a few points of data. Otherwise, you make a fool out of yourself. https://xkcd.com/605/ is pretty relevant.
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Total amount excluding losses on dice: 0.1 BTC now.
2 heroes 1 senior some other shit
This is some fucking revenge for you Stunna.
In other words you stole $65 for shits and giggles. Pathetic. Actually more like $200 but I lost over 50x that amount because of this piece of shit forum. b4tbm9D8pfk How did the server make you lose 10 grand? ... and how did Stunna have anything to do with that? Since: Actually it has nothing to do with gambling.
I'm on a vendetta and I'll never stop.
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