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561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: October 17, 2017, 11:51:28 AM
Of course. It make sense especially for the newbies or beginners. Small investments give chance for beginners. Big things starts from small things so thus investment. We grow our investment because we start it from small. You will appreciate small investments when you reach high. You will see the difference.
Investments even in small amounts can give good profits if invested at the right place. There is a beginning of everything and it takes time to achieve great goals. All big businesses were small once.I would like to give a suggestion also. The best option for investing is bitcoins. Even if someone buys 0.001 BTCs, he will double his amount within days but do make investments.
562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 17, 2017, 11:30:53 AM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?

We can be smart players if our opponents are fools or dont know how to play the game well. If all of the players are smart including you then you will just rely on luck to win the game. So if you are not skilled or unfamiliar with that gambling game better you make some observations and practice well first before you enter that gambling or else you will surely lose your money.

Rely on luck and have skills these are an other thinking and not enough for a smart player. Smart player need to play gambling every time in a smart way, I mean if i couldn't afford gambling and continuously i do betting then in the end, i will in a debt. So smart player always see his pocket firstly and then start only this game, where he think he has skills to win it, and then rely on luck and do it.
Gambling with a limited amount is indeed smart and the definition of smart player was also a good one. There are games in which gamblers can use their skills and name the winning. For instance poker and sports bet. These involve luck to some extent also but some games like dice, slot and roulette depend upon luck only. Playing such risky games with a small amount is wise.
563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: October 17, 2017, 11:04:19 AM
I've read here a lot about "Gambling doesn't make you rich" So I thought about it, and it does make sense. So what do you feel about gambling then? Just entertainment? I think that's not everybody's mindset.

In the back of my mind, I want to be rich but not because of gambling. But when I gamble, I still always want to win. So when you always win, you become more rich and more risk will be involved. Anyway, if I would earn a winning bet that would have a lot of profit from, I would withdraw the initial bet or the bitcoins I deposited to get it back, then still gamble.

If you would have a winning bet that would give you a lot of profit, what would you do with it?
If I obtain or win a huge amount of profit through gambling, I will definitely spend it for investment or buy some altcoins. I won't gamble it gain because there's a chance or I should say that house will never let me win again and they will cheat inorder to retrieve your winnings. So I guess I will use it as a capital for my trading or something to gain more profit.
It is very wise to invest money in something that can give profits instead of playing with earned profits again. I have one advise also. Investing in altcoins won't be very profitable, bitcoins is the right choice.
However, it is very difficult to give up on gambling after winning a good amount because people become greedy. They try to get more and ultimately lose up all the amount.
564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: October 17, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
Yes its true you really need to analysis, learn and the most important is strategy when you play gamble because it's a big thing in gambling to win, and it is better for a man to have it. because it is not good to depend only to luck to win the game, because luck is sometimes comes to us. And also we need to believe in superstition sometimes it gives us luck to win.





  
Sorry but I have a different opinion than you my fellow. No skills or analysis can ensure victory for gamblers. If it was possible, then most of the gamblers would have learnt such strategies and named ample amount of money but we don't see many rich gamblers around, which means it is not possible to become millionaire by simply doing nothing. Gambling is a fun GAME only.
565  Economy / Economics / Re: £500 to spend, on Ether or Bitcoin? on: October 17, 2017, 08:13:53 AM
Hi All,

I have just over £500 to spend and I'm not sure where I should be investing this.

Do I buy a small fraction of a bitcoin or buy 2 ethers?

What would you do?

I'm looking for some long term investment.

Also, i'm hoping to contribute £100 per month towards either one but not sure which direction I should be taking.


Many Thanks
For me, I can say that bitcoin is more good in investment than all the altcoins. £500 is a enough money to start a long term investment in bitcoin. Bitcoin is very profitable so It is better to invest your money to the bitcoin.
Yes you are right in the future bitcoin will be the main stream for the people to use. I also agree with the investment in bitcoin, because the worldwide popularity, easy transfer, security, and of course the growing price.

The high price means the high profit. As much we invest in bitcoin the more and more money we will earn in the future. So for me the best choice for investment is only bitcoin.
Bitcoin is first and last option because popularity and usage factor of bitcoin is quite high as compare to ETH and it price doesn’t increase with so much margin as price of bitcoin raises up to 1000USD per week and people are not much aware of ETH all are bitcoin fan so don’t risk into the new evolving currency put your money into right one to get high profits.
566  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin breaks all time high and surges past $5,000 on: October 15, 2017, 07:22:01 AM
will this fork play out as free money as usually when bitcoins are kept in exchanges or is it specifically for bitcoins in wallets one possess it's private keys.
Hopefully it will. The aftermath of the fork will tell before we can know if the free money will be available or it is just going to end up being one useless fork in the history of all forks. I have been trying to see if there is any information regarding it but nothing yet.
567  Economy / Economics / Re: I want to invest 1000 USD into crypto on: October 14, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
Alright, let's say I have a budget of 1000 USD and I want to invest it into cryptocurrency. Is it better to buy my own setup and mine or do cloud mining or should I buy some coins directly ? What cryptocurrency might be the best for long-term profit ? I am willing to lose that money (although I would be sad ofc) but I wanna somehow start with cryptos since I believe it has got a great future.

Most cloud mining are scams so stay away from it. Mining with $1000 usd? Not sure if that is enough, the prices for mining items alone has risen tremendously, 5000 usd might be quite enough to get your own best items for the best prices. But, it is difficult to setup a mining rig because most of it are sold out or too expensive. I cannot see into the future, if I could I would buy 5000 BTC when it is cheap. So, the lesson is do your own research first before you get into cryptocurrency. Do not ever be a FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) and diversify you altcoin portfolio.   
Investing 1000SD is not enough increase your budget up to 5000SD TO invest in the BTC And join the community of cryptocurrency investors by which you will gain huge profit dint get into the hands of scammers there is no such low investment nowadays the only major one is BTC and you should invest in it.
Why would you say $1000 is not enough ? It depends on what you want to use it for but any amount is enough and that amount is even a very good amount to start earning something tangible.

If the OP can put his mind like few weeks into learning trading and practicing a little with some little amount first until he is sure it is something he can do with some little confidence for a start, that amount can increase faster than he would expect.
1000USD is a good amount but it also matter that in which crypto you are investing make a decision wisely and invest in that one which has long lasting benefits as well as its popularity is also great, don’t put money just for the sake of profit and see other factors also and nowadays bitcoin is the beneficial one so invest in it to make double of that amount,
568  Economy / Economics / Re: it is possible fiat currency will crashed? on: October 14, 2017, 12:27:03 PM
I heard Robert Kyosaki is talking about the crashed of FIAT CURRENCY? when this thing will happen? how are we going to respond?
I do not think Fiat easily collapsed so. There are a lot of bad rumors about digital money, and you should not believe those rumors, because their words are not necessarily right. Because you should consider whether the rumors are true or not. I never thought that Fiat would collapse because it was a tool for people to value the assets of the world, and people used it to convert digital money into fiat, which is very necessary in life so it will never collapse
hard to believe that fiat will crashed even the countries economy is down their fiat will still alive, its the currency that represent their nations so I'm not sure
if how fiat will collapse and what would be the replacement for that, if we are thinking that crypto will do then it will break the concept of being decentralized
as government needs to control it.
Flat will crash only in one situation that if world will totally switch into bitcoins and this will take time to do so flat has importance still it is being used all over the world as mode of payment and income bitcoin popularity is increasing which is real threat to the flat but if flat will be gone then bitcoin will take over it and that will be more beneficial for the user.
569  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin successfully defeated China on: October 14, 2017, 10:38:30 AM
You just have to compare the volume before the ban on chinese exchanges, its not the same like 2-4 years ago when most of vol was in china so this was just big fud, I am glad its over
Chinese give huge loss to the bitcoin and this shows the strength of bitcoin that how it survives from that situation easily and those who are still in favor of china will see that china will beg to rejoin, now there is no possibility that bitcoin can be controlled it defeated Chinese in good way and the investors from all over the world make this happen and they will get profit soon.
570  Economy / Economics / Re: each state will create its own token? on: October 14, 2017, 10:07:41 AM
Hello people!As you consider whether each state to create their own tokens? under its currency?

I don't think so because no country wants to give a decentralize currency to their citizen and loose the economic control from their hands. And if there is Internet everywhere than it could be accessible from any part of the world. So there is no logic behind create such a vague and useless currency.
If you do try out to read up again on what op said and mean then you would answer on different thing. If each state would decide to create their own tokens then it would surely be a centralized thing which would based on their own currency but this thing would be somehow take lots of works or adjustments since not all citizens is familiar on this kind of thing.
yes that is fact that if a altcoin is restricted to some particular area or state then it will certainly be centralize and will not as universal, But i think that this will not be succeeded, because people like to use a universal currency and therefore they will still refer to bitcoin, because bitcoin is a universal currency and it can be throughout the world with same value. 
Centralized or decentralized doesn’t make a currency universal. Even bitcoin cannot be used globally by everyone as so many people will not even be able to access it due to lack of internet and being hugely behind in technology. At the end for the state, we will just end up having a form of the usual fiat they have had before in the form of digital currency which will end up being controlled.
Future will be all about bitcoin and this can be surely predicted that if this coin start circulating everyone will know about it and should use it and whereas decentralization is concerned it is the quality of bitcoin it generates huge profits which are enjoyed by investors and as internet is available everywhere in world and all are using it so why not bitcoin.
571  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin successfully defeated China on: October 14, 2017, 09:36:08 AM
Bitcoin has pumped back to $4000 and up, without no chinese markets involved, proving that we can survive government bans. I am very confident now in a strong recovery to an ATH. Once we reach ATH in a post-Chinese ban environment, we are going to prove to the world that bans on Bitcoin are useless, so they will either join us or keep getting exposed.

I predict chinese exchanges will eventually be back under regulated licenses, pumping the price even further. Get in now or cry later.

I believe, this is just a statement from bitcoin to the world, saying no matter what you do you cant stop me. Now, even if bitcoin gets banned by strong countries , it won't be affecting its value and it will continue to increase it price. I think, bitcoin is gonna be unstoppable now.
Only a fool or overconfident government can take this foolish step of banning bitcoin after what happened to China. We all know that bitcoin is damn popular now and it has users around the globe. We cannot stop bitcoin now from ruling the world and becoming the next international currency of the world. I don’t find a single reason for which bitcoin could be controlled by states.
572  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: October 14, 2017, 08:50:33 AM
Bitcoin is Volatile, So if you invest bitcoin For A long Time Then You will be called Millionare,
All bitcoiners Know What Bitcoin Can Do. And We Are All Expecting to it's price.
From An employee into An Employer, This What bitcoin can do.
Yep! This is what exactly people are using bitcoin for. The talented people are not willing to be ruled by useless rude bosses who themselves are incapable of becoming bosses. All those who have ego issue or don’t want to be servant of others can earn their money without getting snubbed by others. Bitcoin is the only currency which can make you rich in few months can make your dreams come true.

573  Economy / Economics / Re: Most people dont even know what this is yet. on: October 14, 2017, 08:19:45 AM
In my local area, there is no store or shop that accept bitcoin. some of them know about bitcoin but don't accept payment through bitcoin because they prefer to use cash money

I do not think they like cash so they use it, for a more precise reason, they do not want to use bitcoin which they do not really understand to carry out the transaction. In other words, bitcoin is not yet fully available.
What do you mean by not yet fully available? Bitcoin is available in almost all the countries and they just need to buy it from an exchange or a local wallet that offers buying and selling bitcoin and that is how it is so easy to use bitcoin and make it fully available to the people who want to use it.
I 100% agree with you that most of the people even never heard the name of bit coin but as this is the introduction stage of bit coin most of people are now educating about bit coin but the problem with bit coin is the use of internet.

As the aged people have low idea of internet and the world money is mostly with these aged people in their businesses or banks accounts so that’s why they don’t have any interest to learn internet and invest in bit coin
Bitcoin does not need any improvement at all. All the features exhibited by bitcoin are amazing and are according to the needs of time. The decentralized nature of bitcoin meets the need of people who want not to be controlled by corrupt governments. All those people who are not willing to pay nay tax which is being utilized by government in wars etc. can easily use bitcoin as an alternative.
574  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin benefit of saving for a long time? on: October 12, 2017, 07:09:18 PM
Yes agree, bitcoin profit will be felt if we keep for a long time or at least a year, so we can get profit at least 100%. I will also do so, which keeps bitcoin for a long time.
All the experts who are very well educated in the world of bitcoin says that bitcoin is best coin for the one who is planning for long term investment. I believe there is no other better way of making a very good amount of profit if you are dealing with bitcoin than holding it for a long time. Market price of bitcoin will definitely increase with each passing day, thus adding more money in your account.

575  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it possible for the bitcoin to lose it's value ? on: October 12, 2017, 02:59:11 PM
Definitely not. It may dump but will not totally lose its value since no one can stop it.
And the market conditions depends the investment ratio of the people. The more the investment the high the price. It is the rules of business. As many people start believing and investing in bitcoin the price and market cap will automatically raise high and decrease in such a field which is used all over the world cause some annoying things, which I think will never last for long time.
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578  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you see trading as fun and games? on: October 09, 2017, 08:31:51 PM
To be honest, it's kind of fun experience to me. It doesn't have the pressure like gambling and there is a lot of altcoins that means there's a lot of choices. Dividing you investment into different altcoins has a lower risk of loss but you still need some research.

Yes its just the same as gambling with less risk to have. I am taking trading seriously and i always do a lot of research before investing into a new coin that i think has a potential and the best thing to do is read the comments of other experienced traders.
Trading is not at all related to gambling. Gambling is an evil game that is totally based on your luck and is highly destructive in nature whereas trading is a profession where you can make maximum money based on the level of your knowledge digital currencies and crypto market. It is great that you do deep research and analysis of the coin before investing into it because this is what trading is all about.
579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Once again,BTC is back on: October 09, 2017, 07:56:07 PM
Good news.BTC price is recovering and its now $3,390.I think the panic drama has ended and ray of hope is seen once again.

            BITCOIN  -  UNSTOPPABLE
everything has come back now, when Bitcoin has a price of about $ 4000. I'm sure now everyone has returned happy from the panic that happened in the last few weeks.
This was meant to happen from the beginning of the dip. If people were thinking that bitcoin will keep on decreasing and become worth 0 dollars then obviously it was just a foolish dream. Bitcoins was just testing his real supporters and the smart ones would have actually bought good amounts of it when it was 3200 dollars. Finally the nightmare is over and now everyone is waiting for November.
There is always a pump after every dump and it is the special characteristics of bitcoin and it has recovered from the 3000USD and this shows the determination and motivation of the investor and those who were talking about its zero value now their mouths are wide open and they are wondering that what happened and this is the time when profits comes,
580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Bitcoin ever replace conventional money? on: October 09, 2017, 07:05:39 PM
For what's it replaced? Conventional money is much needed. Proof that happened with China, they forbid cryptocurrency in circulation. Certainly means conventional money for them is better than bitcoin.
This will happen in near future that bitcoin will replace conventional money and that will be time of bitcoin, this is only possible through the advertisement of bitcoin as more people attract toward it demand will increase and more people will use it to pay to travel to do everything in their routine, I am waiting for it and that time is near,
My answer is YES. In fact, it is just a matter of time and then all the governments will accept bitcoins as well as altcoins.  Many countries have already accepted bitcoins and majority of the banks are dealing in digital assets too. It is the future of money. Moreover, bitcoin is money because it is a medium of exchange but this has a great value, so people treat it like an asset more.
Conventional money is at its end it will be replaced by bitcoin in near future and this will happen because the people who use bitcoin are now recommending bitcoin to other and as whole world will start using it there will be no value of conventional money, and all this will happen in next 5 to 6 years and that time will be revolutionary.
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