You got that one precisely backwards.
Captchas do NOT protect against bots, captchas prevent regular users from using the site.

The reason is simple: There are Chinese companies paying workers pennies an hour who solve captchas for a job.
This is where bots get their captchas solved and this is why captchas cannot tell bots from humans anymore, simply because on the captcha part bots ARE in fact humans.

At same time the captchas increase difficulty NOT upon suspicious behavior, but based on the amount of times a given IP accesses a captcha.
This means, on a site like Coinpot.win, where users have to solve 10+ captchas every 15 minutes, ALL halfway active users will run into absolutely unsolvable scribbles within a few hours.
This also means, since those "professional" Chinese captcha solvers are FAR better in solving even the most difficult captchas than regular users could be, a site using captchas will FOR SURE within a few hours have EXCLUSIVELY bots for users, simply because regular users aren't able to solve the captchas anymore.

If I look at myself, after I signed up, I was using the site for about 2 days really frequently, then captchas increased difficulty and I cannot solve them anymore.
The only solution I have is using less captcha protected websites and since there are PLENTY of faucets paying better than Coinpot.win I rather use my limited accessability for other sites.
Only late at night, like past midnight CET captchas usually become solvable, because traffic on the web goes down and therefore captchas reduce difficulty, that's when I make a few claims, but compared to my first 2 days on your site, it's less than 10%.

Curious: Why do you throw virtually impossible to solve sribbles for captchas at your users and then penalize them for not being able to solve them?
Next question: Whats the point of blocking users from using your site? Isn't that pretty counter productive?
Anyway, I guess you'll give the usual answer about a bot protection that captchas just cannot provide, so if possible, skip that part and just tell me:

Since I've already been blocked an hour yesterday and had my share of wrong captchas today, what rules does the blocking follow?
Is there a daily limit that get's reset, or do you simply block users for an hour after so many wrong captchas and ...... most important ..... is there a risk of getting completely banned?

If you set a withdrawal limit that's reached in less than 6 claims, then it doesn't matter whether you allow a withdrawal after every claim or not, users will not claim from your faucet more than 5 times a day, simply because they cannot cash out more than what they get in 5 claims.
What sense does it make, having all users leave after 1:15 hours?

Same here.

Potcoin cannot be withdrawn, pops up a load of error upon withdraw request.
Furthermore one cannot register a Potcoin address at Faucethub, because Faucethub calls correct wallet addresses invalid anyway.

Question: Why do you allow claims

blackcoin 160000
peercoin 6000
primecoin 100000

every 15 minutes, but then limit withdrawals to the value of 4-5 claims a day?

Last question: Any idea when Faucethub will add B3Coin or when you will offer a different withdrawal method?

Yeah, I kinda figured they keep pages open because the ads still pay.
That's why I've included the info of when I last got paid by a faucet in the faucet list on my homepage.

Talking about the long term picture, the best investment I've ever done was my solar panels, which cut the outrageous electricity bills in Italy in half, which is way better than any other investment could pay (except of those moon shots if one had bought BTC for $5 a piece some years ago).

Cryptos is for me a fun game aside, way too risky for comfort, way too much fraud going on with it.
I have less than $200 invested in cryptos and that's already double my actual initial investment from where the value has gone up.

Wow, did I get you so exited that you cannot sleep anymore? Must be middle of the night for you.
If so, no worries, this doesn't run away, it's been dormant for over 10 years, I doubt it will get a boom by next month.

No I do not have Telegram, I'm present in a gazillion forums for all kind of topics, from gaming over computers to e-cigarettes, but for direct chat I have only Skype.
Since you have been on my homepage earlier, just look up the contact page top left in the in menu.

About the greed, I can tell you stories you wouldn't believe.
I.e. I have been on some very small real money backgammon platform, where I got in touch with the owner, when he discovered I was a professional player.
They paid me $1,000 for a detailed review of their site, I've given them like 50 pages full of suggestions, they have agreed with me on every single point, expressed their surprise because most of it they never even thought of.
I was getting exited about helping to build a user friendly gaming site, but ONE day later, they terminated my advisor contract and told me they'd do about the opposite of what I had suggested, because they thought that would be better, where I could clearly see, they tried dragging an instant big profit out of it, with the predictable result the entire thing would go down the drain.
It took less than 6 months from there until their site entirely vanished from the web.

These cases make me wonder where people have been during math lessons in school, 10K profit within a week in exchange for losing a business that would pay 1K a month for many years is beyond my logic.

All these abandoned faucets, where owners don't even bother closing the pages, where users still keep trying to claim, just to receive nothing ...... I mean at the very least, when abandoning a website, one could at least delete and/or replace it with a note that is has been closed.

Ok, this will go off topic now, but I guess I can't avoid it.
I've been a professional backgammon player, made a living out of backgammon for money online for some 5 years.
I've seen the platforms evolving from free sites like MSN Gaming Zone, up to professional platforms like Truemoneygames.
I've also seen them all go down the drain, absolutely all for the very same reason, pure plain greed of the owners.
Free platforms got drowned in ads and support automated until players didn't feel home anymore and money platforms raised the fees up to a point where nobody could make a profit anymore, because the platform took it all.

My wife has launched the Eurogammon platform back then
http://www.eurogammon.eu/
used to have 2000+ active members, but without having a popular free server to play on, it went down the drain when MSN Gaming Zone closed and with my server never becoming popular I wasn't able to get the players in there.

My wife and me have quite some experience in organizing tournaments, I've even invented some new tournament formats that players loved, in fact the Eurogammon website is (except of the forum) all my work including all the tournaments.

In the end it turns out, I'm pretty good in creating opportunities, but I'm a complete failure in marketing.
If you see an opportunity there, I'm open to almost anything.

Edit, update, here is your screenshot:
http://www.piranhazone.com/xtras/coins4days_bonusad.jpg
Top center you see what gets this stuck, because the "authentication required" just doesn't go away, cannot be cancelled nor submitted, while at the same time blocking anything else.
But to be precise, this is a milder form of this kind of ad, this one has a voice in plain english and can be terminated by pressing "Alt + arrow left", theres another of these with a strong eastern accent that isn't terminated so easy.

But while I'm at it, here's a bug you do have in your end of the site:
http://www.piranhazone.com/xtras/coins4days_bonusad2.jpg
This happens not every time, but frequently when the browser returns from the 2nd bonus link to your main site.
No big deal, refreshing the site will fix it, but I thought you want to know anyway.

Good morning
I cannot guarantee how good my brain works while coffee is still in the makes, but I wanted to give you an answer right away.

The keyphrase for me was when you said, you just want more users on your site having fun.
It may sound unbelievable for you, but I MIGHT have something to offer on that line.

Have a look at: http://www.piranhazone.com/index.php?language=1&page=piranhagammon
Under "Take a tour" you will get an impression.
This is a multilingua full flavored gameserver, including a fully functional client software, which I have written by myself.
For the moment it only plays Backgammon, but a 2nd game is in the makes.
It's the result of an argument in some forum, where other programmers wanted to tell me the story of how complicated and expensive it is writing a game server, where I have proven, it can be done by one single programmer and costs next to nothing, except of loads of my time.

Meaning this is 100% my work, 100% my copyright, where only my wife and a friend have helped with translations.
(The note in the FAQ about a graphics designer I had for help is obsolete, the latest version is even in graphics all my work.)

This has been online for over 10 years by now, but it never gained any popularity, simply because I do not run any advertising for it.
On the one hand it's the worlds only absolutely free gameserver, meaning it is not only free to use for players, but also advertising free, but on the other hand I don't gain nor lose anything, whether there are players on it or not.
That's why it has remained a tiny little thing for a handful of friends all these years.

Now this is out of your line, but if you want just some attraction on your site, maybe this is an opportunity?
An idea might be holding tournaments with Satoshis for prices.

Woah, loads of stuff .... I'll try to answer without quotes from you, or else it would become a book.

First of all thanks for the transparency, I love it when businesses treat their customers fair and show how they are doing so, a really rare thing nowadays.

Little side thought, maybe not really fair towards the ads, but I can't help thinking that way.
Does alone a click on an ad already pay you, independent of how long the one clicking an ad stays on the site it leads to?
I mean clicking 5 ads and closing each site right away takes what? 5 seconds?
For multiple times the payout, I'd do that with every single claim, no problem for me, actually much easier than clicking 2 bonus links with pages full of ads where I'm forced to wait 5 - 10 seconds each.

Yes, a combination of reCaptcha and SolveMedia, where I can choose which one to solve would solve the problem for me, at least for the moment, or at least it would make things a little bit easier.
At times reCaptcha is a pain as well, because it smoothly works exclusively in Chrome and even in Chrome at traffic rush hour those captchas become extremely time consuming, where I have to solve 10+ consecutive captchas before it will let me through.
That's why during daytime my time (which is apparently the traffic rush hour) I tend not to use any of the sites using either of these two types of captchas, but only sites using GeeTest or something like that, which do not increase difficulty only because there's more traffic on the web.

I mine two things, depending whether I need my computer aside of mining or not.
I have just a regular standard PC with an I7-7700K and a single GTX1070.
During the night (or better between 5am and 1pm where I sleep) I run Minergate in smart mode for Monero on CPU intensity 3 plus GPU intensity 2, that consumes (with monitor, speakers etc. all turned off) just so 150 watts and will produce roughly $1 in value while 8 hours times 150 watts at Italian prices will cost me roughly $0.60 in electricity.
But minergate gets the entire computer to lag and doesn't have any settings for lowering the power it takes, even at intensity 1 I cannot even smoothly type something into a browser window while Minergate is running, let alone working on a programming code in my compiler, meaning this is useless during the day.
Therefore during the day I run CCMiner for Verge through yiimp, set to -i 18, which will produce roughly 1-2 Verge per hour which just so covers the extra cost in electricity, above of what it would consume anyway, but on Verge I have the hope it may increase value in the near future and the setting allows me to work on the computer while I hardly notice the mining in the background.
For me there's no point in buying further hardware just to increase mining power, the difference between the coins I get and the electricity it costs in Italy is just too small, it would take 2 or 3 years just to recover the price of a 2nd graphics card.
But then I do have solar panels on my roof, which doesn't produce much power right now in winter, but during the summer this greatly improves my profit.


Last but not least, because I love this story ........ your question about a screenshot.
First I have to mention where this story comes from.

There was a series of TV ads in Germany years ago, for some espresso coffee from Italy, where some guy with a strong Italian accent was arguing about his car, here's an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWMUGH5y-l4
The story is always the same, she comes to complain that his car is in her parking spot or something, he insists on making coffee and in the end, when she finally wants to get back to his car being in her way, he says with his strong Italian accent: "I don't have a car."

These spots have been repeated so many millions of times all over German TV that the saying of "I don't have a ......" has made it into common German language, whenever anyone wants to say something like "I'm perfectly aware it will sound unbelievable for you, but I don't have a ......" (fill in whatever you don't have), that nobody uses the long form anymore, but everybody just uses an Italian accent to say "I don't have a ....".
For me, now living in Italy, this has become one of my favorite things to say, especially in THIS case, where I can say: "I don't have a mobile, nor a tablet, nor a notebook."

I just cannot imagine working with a monitor smaller than 55" in 4K resolution.
Still I don't know whether or not I can make a screenshot of that browser window.
The ad entirely locks up the browser, there's nothing you can do, not even switching to another tab in the same browser.
If nothing else, my screen is big enough to take a photo with my regular camera, so somehow I will get you an image about it.
For now I can tell you, it's under the first bonus link, the one where you can click skip ad after 5 seconds and I'm seeing it maybe once every 20 claims.

Ok, here we go, next I have a question, maybe a stupid one, but I can't make sense of it anyway.

Since your profit depends on how many users you can show the ads on your site, what sense is there in limiting how often a user can watch those ads?
I believe I understand the motive of sites that allow you to claim once a minute, they simply do not limit how often users can watch ads and thereby increase their own profit.

What I do not understand is, why allowing more frequent claims must always go along with lower claim amounts.
IFFFF what you get is relative to the amount of users watching your ads and NOT limited to how often the same user watches a given ad, then the amount of Satoshis you can pay for watching the ads can remain the same, no matter how often you allow a claim.

Not sure where I saw that or whether that's the "normal" price, but I've seen somewhere a price of these ads of $0.50 per 1000 impressions.
By a rough estimate I'd say you have 10 - 20 ads on your site, where one has to go through to get to a claim, meaning you get $5 - $10 per 1000 impressions, for this example let's just calculate with 10.
If I calculate the +/- 35 Satoshis you pay per claim (including the two bonuses), that would even match, because that's roughly $4 per 1000 impressions you pay to your users, meaning you keep 20%.

But then I still don't understand why you limit that to once an hour and/or reduce the claim amount upon shorter timing.

Edit, update: Here we go again, client error 117B
Took just over 1 day before SolveMedia again believes I shall be a robot for nothing more than me accessing too many captcha protected sites.
Since the solution appears to be turning my computer off for some 8 hours that simply means, I won't claim from your site at least for the rest of today and very likely not for the rest of the week, simply because turning my miner off for 8 hours loses WAY more money than I could gain by having access to your faucet.

Wonder whether or not it will ever occur to SolveMedia that multiple accesses to captchas from the same IP address might be simply a whole town having the same IP due to a shortage in IPv4 addresses.

Fortunately 90% of all faucet sites do not use SolveMedia anymore or at least offer a choice of captchas, meaning I can still go on with the remaining sites, but for you it means, one active customer less for a while.

Another edit: There's a good thing in anything I guess.
Power out in my street past sundown and longer than my UPS could handle ment my PC was offline for 2 hours, meaning I got a new IP and SolveMedia works again.
It's still a pain, but for the moment I take it.

Good morning

Now let me see what else to add to last nights post ......


..... then the next user has to find other 10 or give up on faucets.
A month later the total amount of users has increased 10 fold.
A month later the total amount of users has increased 10 fold AGAIN.
A year later the amount of users required to keep existing users happy exceeds the worlds population.


Why would there be a problem with a loyalty bonus?
All you have to do is lower the claim amount for new users and add what you save there in loyalty bonus for others.
I have no clue about the relation, but I would guess, to make a 1% per day loyalty bonus it would already be enough to reduce the base claim from +/- 15 Satoshis to 12 or 13.
The idea of "affording" a loyalty bonus only after the faucet is profitable is the same what electricity providers do, offering new customers way cheaper prices than loyal customers, making customers switch provider every year, rather than building a base of loyal customers.
It's as absurd as it gets, because the ONLY thing that does is opening a business opportunity for price comparison websites, where obviously the consumers pay the price of those sites, meaning in the end prices for EVERYONE are higher than they would be with a loyalty bonus and profits for all providers are lower.


..... more later, right now I got on your site into one of those browser locking ads and I have to terminate all browser windows to close that.
Be back later.

Well, it's 4:30am here, so just a short answer for now, but as you might have figured by now, asking my opinion may get a complete book in response, so I'll write more tomorrow (ermmmm ...... later today).

The orginial idea of a Ponzi is based on everybody paying something, but for the underlaying problem it makes no difference.
If getting a sufficient amount of Satoshis from a faucet requires getting 10+ referrals in, you'll run out of potential customers, because it exceeds the worlds population.

Not finding new referrals isn't a problem for now, all you need is your own website and a good reputation in some crypto related forums, there are more than plenty of newbies coming into the forums these days so that one single posting in a halfway big forum will get me at least 5 referrals, but of course not for every site, but in total for all the sites on my list.

A problem (and another suggestion of mine) would be, make a faucet for a less valuable coin, with a lower transferral free.
I collect Dogecoins (and I trade everything I can get for Dogecoins), simply because that's so much easier, faster and cheaper to trade than BTC.
Also in the Doge community there are WAY more newbies potentially interested in claiming from faucets, that one I know for sure, because the ratio of how often I find a referral for a Doge faucet is 5 times greater than the referrals I find for ALL other coins combined.

..... more tomorrow.

Edit: I ment to make another claim from your site before going to bed, but apparently I cannot, the captcha field doesn't show up above the claim button, refreshing the page 10 times doesn't work either.

Well, ok, of course you have your own point of view and it isn't the point of your users.
Furthermore I cannot speak for others, I can just speak for myself and I can predict for you, what I'll be doing in the near future.
I guess it won't be much different for other users, but obviously I cannot be sure about that.

First of all claiming from faucets without having a large amount of referrals in your back is entirely pointless, because alone the electricity running a computer exceeds the value of the claim, therefore, once I've built a halfway good base of referrals, I'll be claiming precisely once a day, just to collect the referrals and transfer everything to my wallet.
That's why for me accumulating sites pay way more than you do, even though for someone spending all day at the computer, visiting your faucet on top of every hour, spending the time clicking through your bonuses, will pay more, it just isn't worth my time.
(There are sites paying 5 Satoshis once per minute, meaning you could get to 300 Satoshis per hour, meaning WAY more than any other site pays, but those I completely ignore, simply because 10 or 20 seconds per minute of my time is WAY to much for 5000 or so Satoshis a day.)
Furthermore these accumulating sites pay loyalty bonus, referral bonus not only in % of their claims, but also 1% per referral on my own claims, plus a "mystery bonus", meaning from an accumulating faucet, IFFFF I get to 100 referrals and 100 days loyalty, I can claim 80 - 120 Satoshi in 10 seconds, once a day PLUS my referral commissions and that then summons up to a value worth claiming.

I do realize that my way of doing this is an extreme form of Ponzi scheme, because if everyone was doing like I do, you'd have to increase the amount of active customers 10fold every month and you'd exceed the worlds population by the end of the year, but then, this is my point of view, the view of a customer.

In the end I don't really know what I should recommend for you, I guess I shouldn't even try.
I give you my customers point of view, what you make out of that is up to you and whether or not I will keep using your site is then my decision.
For the moment I'm fine with your site and I give you a great deal of gratitude for being the ONLY faucet site where I have a personal contact, which (to me) is worth way more than a higher payout.

Yes, withdraw works, thanks for that.

2.) There are literally WAY more faucets than one can claim from, therefore I sort out those that pay best and if claiming 10 Satoshi extra takes 15 seconds, that's not worth it because in the same time I can claim 20 Sathoshi from 2 other sites.

4) Proof of Work uses CPU power, roughly 50 Watts for roughly 5 seconds the check takes, too expensive for the amount one can claim there.
I've abandoned all sites using it and apparently I was not the only one, most of those sites have noticed and switched back to other captchas.
Also it does NOT solve the problem of neighbors sharing the same IP.

On a general idea, of the by far best faucet site I know of, have a look at bonusbitcoin.
With setting "pay always the average", it pays 26 Satoshi every 15 minutes plus 5% of all your claims from the last 3 days every day at midnight, it pays directly to coinpot and takes less than 5 seconds to claim.
It has one popup every 3 hours or so, captcha switchable between reCaptcha and SolveMedia and pays a solid 50% referral commission.
It's a faucet I hardly ever miss, while I'm awake, even if I'm very busy with work (freelance programmer, sitting at the computer anyway) this one I claim no matter what, making almost 2000 Satoshi a day from there.

Sure that's still only some pocket change, but compared to the time it takes claiming, this one is the best and if I find a few more referrals it may actually ad up to a sum worth mentioning.


On a VERY general idea, you should forget the idea of a pleasant experience for your users, because nobody cares about that.
Aside of robots, which I will ignore for this point, there are only 2 types of users:

1) People like me, experienced with computers and the web, only caring about how fast one can get to the payout and how much it pays.
I really don't care at all how many popups you throw at me, I have a Logitech G13 programmable keyboard aside, where I have a hotkey for Alt-F4, shorting even that one to a single key.
I don't care how many ads you have on the site, I don't even see them, because I stay focussed on finding the "Claim" button in between the ads.

2) Beginners, trying to get into cryptos, claiming a few times, usually until they reach the minimum for the first transfer to their wallet, which at Faucethub is 20,000 Satoshis.
Once they get confirmed there, that their wallet is working, they will abandon faucets, because they will figure, it took them 2 dozen faucet sites and about 2 weeks of monotonous captcha solving work to make $3, which is less than the minimum wage in Bangladesh.
They never get the idea of building their own referral site, mostly because they simply don't have their own website.
These will care for easy usable faucet sites, but compared to what you get from frequent users, they are near meaningless.
I don't know whether or not you keep statistics about your users, but I bet you anything you like, 90+% of all your users will become inactive within a month.

This is NOT the case for accumulating faucets, because there you just don't have to be active, you spend once a day 10 seconds with them and most users will continue to claim from them way longer than from timed faucets.
I can tell, I have only TWO referrals at those moon____ faucets and those two users claim there so often that my 50% commission by far exceeds my own claims from there.

Since I have nothing better to do, let me give you a few more ideas:

1) A timed claim like you have, with one payout per hour is for robots, real humans need sleep, go out of the house frequently and miss claims.
I like far better the faucets that accumulate Satoshis over time, where accumulation slows down over time, meaning the longer you don't claim the slower it accumulates, meaning more active claimers will get more, but accumulation never stops.
It's like a ritual for me, every morning when getting up, with first coffee I click through the faucets and I ALWAYS go to those accumulating faucets first.

2) You have 2 bonus links on your site, where one can add 10 Satoshis each to a claim.
The first one takes 5 seconds and doesn't have a captcha, thats ok, but the second one has a captcha to solve plus an additional 10 seconds to wait.
If you calculate electricity for 15 seconds computer running that already exceeds 10 Satoshis, meaning this bonus is worth less than nothing for BOTH sides, because you only pay the energy provider of the user, meaning you pay, the user pays as well and the energy provider is the only one making money.
Fortunately for me I do have solar panels on my roof, but I guess that's still not wide spread.

3) I've added your faucet to my list including a link to this topic here.
http://www.piranhazone.com/index.php?page=crypto&topic=faucets
As mentioned above, I'd like to see a link or a button on your site that shows statistics about referrals.
Furthermore there's one feature on other faucet sites I like, which is a referral bonus independent from whether or not the others make claims.
Some sites pay not only 25% (or more) of whatever my referrals claim, but another 1% bonus on my own claims for each successful referral.

4) As mentioned above, I get my internet connection from Italian Fastweb.
This provider has far less public IPs than customers, meaning at traffic rush hours on the web they route complete blocks of a town, or in smaller towns even the entire town through the same public IP, similar to some kind of gigantic home network.
This means for me two things:
1) If during these times anyone in my neighborhood messes with his connection, the whole block gets blacklisted from captcha sites.
2) If anyone else in my neighborhood would like to sign up on your site, he cannot, because your site thinks it's the same user.
So the question becomes not only how to overcome the blacklistings, but also how could I refer my friends and neighbors?

Yes it is and I did try to find that setting somewhere on your site, but there is no such thing.
Remember, above I asked for a button "account".

Welcome.

Meanwhile I'm approching 4000 Satoshis and I still get error upon withdraw.
If I reach 5000 before the problem is solved, I'll get back to you here via PM.

Yes I'm sure, but I can provide you an additional information.
I'm running a webserver at a provider in Austria (while I live in Italy) to which I'm connected via VPN.
Now my provider doesn't like that, nor do faucet sites allow the use of VPN, therefore I haven't made a claim, but since the error message appears right on the frontpage of your faucet (where you have that SolveMedia captcha) I just opened the site to see what it shows and from there I can tell you, from Austria there is no error.
This means either SolveMedia has put me on some blacklist for accessing too many captchas per day or something, or SolveMedia doesn't like my Italian provider (Fastweb) anymore.

Either way, the problem has existed for me all day long, still exists right now, not only on your site but on ALL sites that use SolveMedia and I would really like getting access again.
I imagine even for you it cannot be the purpose of a captcha locking out one of the few really active AND regular customers you have.

Edit: It took me 8 hours sleep and turn my computer off to obtain a new (dynamic) IP from my internet provider and now it's working again.
Usually I never do this, I keep my computer on over night to run some cryptos mining, meaning my IP doesn't change.
So in the end this means, I just cannot remain as active as I was with faucets, simply because the plain amount of accesses to SolveMedia results in getting blacklisted.
(Wonder what happens to the poor customer who has my yesterdays IP now.)

Wellwell, now you're doomed, together with ALL other sites using SolveMedia.
Right now ALL sites display instead of the SolveMedia captcha a message "client error 117B".
There's no way around it and that means your site is locked for now.