I'd also like to point out the fact that the account kaykawa has red trust only because it is linked to those other alts.

So by marking my account, you are saying that I am all those other accounts as well and yet you claim that you don't see any other proof other than a styling change.

 What exactly led you to believe that I am all those other people?

Honestly, this is absurd.  

You're so quick to tag people without doing any type of due diligence on the matter and then above that you have the audacity to label me as a shady account seller and point blank say that I am a scammer or do business with one?

You're simply trying to play cop and are doing a bad job at it.  

Shame on you ibminer.

I didn't sell the account.  I gave it away.  If it was up to me, all account sales would be banned.

I gave it to 'Supers Sonic' on skype.  Also goes by 'Nauro' on bitcointalk.  He did graphics for me in the past and kept hitting me up for work.  I didn't really want to pay him anything, but he was insistent and it was Christmas time, so I told him he could have my account to make money from signature campaign.  


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It's quite ridiculous that I now have to prove myself from these accusations.  

This was why I wanted my first purchase of the account to be private because I don't want any connections to it after I'm done with it and yet  I have to listen to your condescending 'shady' comments.  

I get that you're trying to 'help' the public.  I just really think it could have been handled much better and with actual professionalism.  

I'm part of 3 people that are trusted with over 1000btc in our possession.  A quick look into myself would have led you to the logical realization that I'd have no reason to involve myself in shady behaviour.  

I sent him a message today on Skype

[8:35:10 AM] Doge Digital: Dude, wtf?  I'm negative trust marked because of the account I gave you
[11:19:58 AM] supers sonic: this is hilarious !
[11:20:01 AM] supers sonic: simply tell them
[11:20:25 AM] Doge Digital: tell them what?
[11:21:24 AM] supers sonic: that u sold account
[11:21:24 AM] supers sonic: and its not against TOS
[11:21:49 AM] supers sonic: if you sell a account and the person who bought scams u dont are responsible
[11:21:54 AM] supers sonic: moreover u didnt sold priv keys
[11:22:03 AM] supers sonic: so no intentions to sell trust
[11:22:09 AM] supers sonic: moreover with kaykawa accunt
[11:22:13 AM] supers sonic: NO SCAM HA BEEN DONE !
[11:22:36 AM] Doge Digital: I'll see how it goes first.  It should be taken care of now.  I'll message if anything goes wrong further
[11:22:49 AM] supers sonic: please can you lin me though
[11:22:51 AM] supers sonic: I want to see
[11:22:59 AM] supers sonic: now what reason those guys generated
[11:23:07 AM] Doge Digital: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1436577.msg15113090#msg15113090
[11:23:13 AM] supers sonic: really some guys there like lutpin , etc and just too much
[11:23:38 AM] supers sonic: u hacked his account ?
[11:23:46 AM] Doge Digital: whos account?  I don't know how to hack lol
[11:23:50 AM] supers sonic: well, u see I took account from you
[11:24:01 AM] supers sonic: he is saying he : Since that day, the account (kaykawa) was out of my control, the new owner was "Dogedigital".
[11:24:09 AM] Doge Digital: oh... no, i bought it from him
[11:24:16 AM] supers sonic: why he saying so then ?
[11:24:28 AM] Doge Digital: He's saying that he's not kaykawa
[11:24:35 AM] Doge Digital: he was saying that I was kaykawa
[11:24:43 AM] Doge Digital: which i was for like 3 months until i gave it to you
[11:24:50 AM] Doge Digital: but since you have red trust
[11:24:55 AM] Doge Digital: they're linking me to it
[11:24:56 AM] supers sonic: well, we can prove this that u sold it
[11:25:01 AM] supers sonic: I have proof !
[11:25:06 AM] supers sonic: how u want to know ?
[11:25:22 AM] supers sonic: a person messaged me that he owns me ( kaykawa account ) some 2 btc as he scammed him
[11:25:27 AM] supers sonic: I said sorry I have bought this accunt now
[11:26:08 AM] supers sonic: what the actual problem sis ?
[11:26:10 AM] supers sonic: is*
[11:26:18 AM] Doge Digital: Just that they think i'm kaykawa
[11:26:19 AM] supers sonic: He is clearly saying that he was the owner
[11:26:24 AM] supers sonic: no
[11:26:28 AM] supers sonic: see this post 1 min
[11:26:40 AM] supers sonic: @Dogedigital, I'm not throwing you to the fire, I quoted "when" i sold the account, and who was the "buyer".
Without that, how can I proove that i did it?.
[11:26:48 AM] supers sonic: looks like kaykawa was his account and got hacked ?
[11:27:32 AM] Doge Digital: no, I was saying that he was accusing me and trying to get people after me instead of him
[11:27:45 AM] supers sonic: ok and main thing
[11:27:48 AM] supers sonic: what wrong kaykawa did
[11:27:51 AM] supers sonic: ?
[11:27:58 AM] supers sonic: why they think kaykawa is scammer man ?
[11:28:22 AM] supers sonic: I mean why they looking who is kaykawa ?
[11:28:30 AM] supers sonic: that account scammed anyone earlier or what ?
[11:29:25 AM] Doge Digital: No
[11:29:34 AM] Doge Digital: Kaykawa has red trust
[11:29:38 AM] Doge Digital: Since they think i'm kaykawa
[11:29:42 AM] supers sonic: ohhh ..
[11:29:44 AM] Doge Digital: someone gave me red trust
[11:29:53 AM] supers sonic: must be lutpin idiot ..
[11:29:59 AM] supers sonic: anyways wait let me think something
[11:31:52 AM] supers sonic: see this
[11:32:04 AM] supers sonic: http://prntscr.com/bdwole
[11:32:25 AM] supers sonic: u can see I told him that I hve bought this account
[11:32:33 AM] supers sonic: so this is obvious, no ? that I have bought it ?
[11:32:50 AM] Doge Digital: i dunno.  just let it be for now i guess.
[11:32:57 AM] Doge Digital: I'll msg you if the guy still doesn't un mark me
[11:33:06 AM] supers sonic: ok
[11:33:14 AM] supers sonic: i am very sorry because of me you get red
[11:33:45 AM] supers sonic: shall I msg ibminer too ?
[11:33:50 AM] supers sonic: or wait til you guide me ?
[11:33:53 AM] Doge Digital: i'd just wait
[11:33:58 AM] Doge Digital: let's see if it corrects itself first
[11:33:59 AM] supers sonic: ok ..
[11:34:05 AM] supers sonic: ohok if not
[11:34:07 AM] supers sonic: I HAVE MANY PROOFS
[11:34:11 AM] supers sonic: we have skype history
[11:34:15 AM] supers sonic: which WE CANNOT CREATE
[11:34:17 AM] supers sonic: right ?
[11:34:20 AM] supers sonic: then we have that messages
[11:34:30 AM] Doge Digital: yea.  should be ok.
[11:34:32 AM] supers sonic: moreover once i remember was asked to sgn message and I fail to ...
[11:34:36 AM] supers sonic: anyways sorry .
[11:36:39 AM] supers sonic: andat last if nothing works , ask a mod to have a ip scan
[11:36:50 AM] supers sonic: clearly ur ip would be different from me .. range too i mean
[11:36:55 AM] supers sonic: anyways bye have to go for now.
[11:37:01 AM] supers sonic: any work for me any design ?
[11:38:25 AM] Doge Digital: Not at this moment.  Perhaps soon though
[11:38:41 AM] supers sonic: thanks, please let me know, I am always keen to design for you.

There are plenty of dice games that you can actually trust.

I'd avoid all sites that aren't provably fair (like Yobit for example) though just to be safe.

"It's time to make the right question to him."

Just stop man.  ^ That's what you bolded.  

Why put emphasis on that when you didn't even reach out to me?  You're clearly trying to divert attention away from yourself and on to me.  That's cowardly.  

As I said before, I didn't sell it, I gave it away to a person that did graphics for me.

Are you joking me? 

"Since that day, the account (kaykawa) was out of my control, the new owner was "Dogedigital".
Maybe he sold the account later, or is the guy you are looking for.

It's time to make the right question to him.


https://i.imgur.com/CEYf3rz.png"

That's your exact quote.  You even went as far as to BOLD my name and the statement to ask me instead when you didn't even have the courtesy or balls to ask me or inform me of what was going on first. 

That's exactly throwing me to the fire. Think before you act.

I gave the account away to a user that did graphics for me on Skype.  This was just after Christmas. 

I had the kaykawa account from July 31 (4:23:35PM) - December 26.

You can obviously tell the difference in the way we speak and that the account was used for graphics services (I absolutely suck at drawing).

The 'alts' connected to that account are all Indian based.  I am from Canada.  This is me (bitrated.com/dogedigital).  I am not Kaykawa and have no involvement in that account from Dec 26 onward.

You don't have that right.  That's the worst policy ever.  You explicitly agreed to keep the transaction private.

Especially knowing the nature of sold and transferred accounts, you need to contact me and see what actually happened instead of blindly throwing me to the fire. 

I gave the account away several months ago.

Kind of stupid tagging me without asking me about the situation. Especially in something with a previous transaction that was supposed to be kept confidential.

Quite disappointed in alesx.  Next time try to clear things up in a sensible way instead of trying to throw everybody else to the wolves to save your own ass.

So... what you're saying is that the fees are only taken on losing bets.  I didn't know that.

If the goal is to increase transparency and honesty, why would one hold it back?  Just curious. 

It's not like people are going to automatically jump at a new company that first introduces the method.

Any suggestions on how to make this as transparent as possible?

Not a concrete solution, but what if trusted members were able to pop under the hood periodically and check the logs and back-end code?

Are you sure about this "The rest of the bet go's fully to investors so every bet 99.45% of all loses go to investors." ? 

Please keep the thread safe for work. Thanks.

I believe my picks are set (I'm away from computer), but just in case (for transparency reasons) I'm picking cavs in 6 and 214 total points

We take security of the funds very seriously.

The vast majority of funds are held in cold wallet storage with 2/3 multi-sig.  We own the private keys.

We monitor the hot wallet closely to try and maintain a good balance between convenience and security.

Unofficial Discord Moneypot channel can be found here (please note that Moneypot has no involvement in any other channels on the server and are only here to communicate easily with Moneypot users):

https://discord.gg/011aeZCV0eln38t7v

Today, while cleaning up the database tables, we had a failed transfer of bet database information.  As a result, all bets before today will not display.  

Please note that the only thing affected was the bet information (bets displayed from https://www.moneypot.com/bets/231000000 for example).  

Balances and sensitive information were NEVER at risk.

I accept full responsibility for this matter and profusely apologize for any inconvenience it may have caused.

Are you referring to Cruel Poker (cruelpoker.com) ?

I wish they had traffic.  It looks great graphics wise, but have no idea how fluid the gameplay is because noone ever plays there.  It's a shame really.

SWCpoker.eu is the only real one for Bitcoin.

Yes, but gambling with a positive expected value as an investment