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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 13, 2016, 08:03:51 PM

Are you still not understand what is ICONOMI ... HuhHuh?? I can place a bet with having either of you about 20,000 ICN price of the end of the year exceed $ 5.


Oh really ? I am willing to make that bet. 20k ICN, it won't exceed 5$ by the end of year (31 december 23h59.59 UTC)

I want free coins.
How and where did it .... Huh

Yo Faggot aka marinholly167....

You just made a 20 K ICN bet that 1 ICN will be worth more than $5 before the 31st of december 2016.

Why you pretending to be surprised when someone actually is willing to take your fucking wager on?


Fagot you are. And I accept the strike .... !!!!

Well its very simple, I can contact a reputed escrow willing to hold 20k ICN on both sides until the date we both agree with and the participating exchange
(I would only take kraken as reference tho, or include an option to concider poloniex if it ever get released before that date we both agree with)

Let me know if that's fine, or what you want to do Wink , then we proceed.

GAME ON  Grin

martinholly167 is a bellend...

I'll volunteer to escrow this.
562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 13, 2016, 08:01:49 PM
What was the ICONOMI ico price?

0.0002 BTC per ICN / 0.1257 USD per ICN
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 13, 2016, 04:33:08 PM
Wow! Price increasing.

Lisk is next.

564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 13, 2016, 04:14:18 PM
The amount of BTC buys required to put ICN at 4X TARGET of its 0.0002 ICO price continues to decline!  

LESS THAN ONE-HALF OF ONE PERCENT OF ICN TOKENS ARE FOR SALE AT UNDER 4X ITS ICO PRICE.

GET THEM WHILE SOME ARE LEFT AT THAT PRICE.

ICN token price is on a hair-trigger and preparing to explode!!!
 
OCT 27



OCT 31



NOV 6



NOV 13



I AM HODLING.
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔹🅰RK🔹 [ANN][ARK] A Platform for Consumer Adoption🔹70% LSK Bonus - First Week on: November 13, 2016, 01:29:23 PM
I still do not understand why you tied this project with Lisk, was there a problem using BTC alone?

Accumulating Lisk will allow ARK management to vote in themselves (and others they choose) as Active Delegates for Lisk forging and therefore accumulate ongoing Lisk rewards by running Lisk nodes themselves.

hey devs, we will be able to add refund adress in case shit happens ? because I think I will invest more, but not if the refund goes to poloniex..

I am an escrow agent for ARK and not a member of the ARK dev team.  The way account keys have been distributed, I must participate in any transfer of BTC or Lisk associated with the ARK project.  My job is to stand up for investors in the event of an ARK launch abort and make sure those investors get their funds back.   If "shit happens", I will do my job.



566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 13, 2016, 01:00:54 PM
I can't believe how things change fast in crypto, this time last week, we have FUDsters and CryBabies all over the place, this week I see renewed hope in ICONOMI.

Both weeks you saw me HODL.
567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 11, 2016, 04:06:11 PM
For one year, it is possible to get $ 1 per ICN dividends.
 
Me too will be very satisfied with $ 0.1 weekly dividends per ICN.

I've already written this about ICN dividends:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5bi5em/what_defines_success_for_icnp/?st=ivdx8vk1&sh=07c6dbb9

As the article above discusses,  ICNP needs to go from its initial $4.6M to 2.7X during 2017 for a 15% annual dividend and 3.7X during 2017 for a 25% annual dividend.  Hitting 3.7X would make ICN a better dividend asset than any stock on NASDAQ and make ICONOMI a rock-star crypto on Wall Street.  

So let's look at the rock-star crypto 3.7X case.  $4.6M X 3.7 = $17M.    Profit is $17M - $4.6M = $12.4M.    Dividends to be distributed during 2017 would be 20% of that profit or $12.4M*0.20 = $2.5M.  These dividends would be distributed over 100M ICN tokens so each ICN token would receive $2.5M / 100M = 0.025 USD = 2.5 cents per ICN token over ALL of 2017.  If there was a constant weekly distribution of dividends over the 52 weeks in 2017, then the weekly distribution for each ICN would be 0.025 USD / 52 = 0.0005 USD per week or one-twentieth of a penny per week per ICN.  

So to equal the very best dividend stock on NASDAQ, ICONOMI must provide dividends per individual ICN token of $0.0005 USD per week or 0.025 USD total during all of 2017.

This analysis ignores other income streams besides ICNP.  This also ignores buying still more ICN weekly with your dividends for a compounding effect.

Getting back to the quote at the top of this post, EVERYBODY would be very satisfied with $0.10 weekly dividend per individual ICN.  This would mean ICONOMI would be paying out out $0.10 * 52 = $5.20 during 2017 on each ICO $0.1257 ICN token.  They would need $5.20 * 100M = $520M in cash to distribute as dividends to meet this 0.10USD per week per ICN target.  If this half-billion dollar dividend pool came from 20% of ICNP total profits, then the ICNP profits need to be $520M/0.2 = $2.6 billion.  With a B.  Growing the ICNP from its current $4.6M to $2.6046B is a multiplier of 566X, in a direct comparison of the 3.7X multiplier above that would make ICONOMI a NASDAQ rock star.

Hope is a good thing for the human mind to have.  Math is a better thing for the human mind to have.

Now, is ICN a panic sell if they can't hit a ridiculous 566X profit multiplier and turn ICNP into a multi-billion dollar fund in under 12 months to feed everybody's totally unrealistic dreams of $0.10 weekly profits per ICN?  Not at all.

ICN IS NOT A PANIC SELL WHEN YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE THE TRUTH ABOUT IT.   IT IS A DEFINITE BUY.

ICONOMI is not aimed at crypto children that don't know enough math to realize when their dreams are ridiculous.  ICONOMI is aimed at traditional fiat investors that currently have WAY WAY WAY more money to invest than the entire total in crypto right now.  And those traditional fiat investors are all crazy starved for income yield since the central banks have collapsed interest rates to zero over the past eight years.  

IF ICONOMI CAN HIT A 3.7X MULTIPLIER FOR ICNP TO BECOME BETTER THAN ANY OTHER NASDAQ DIVIDEND INVESTMENT, TRADITIONAL INVESTORS WILL POUR HUGE AMOUNTS INTO BUYING UP ICN TOKENS TO SECURE THAT DIVIDEND LEVEL FOR THEMSELVES.

Traditional fiat investors do not live in the crypto dream fantasy world of hoping for 566X multipliers on crypto-ICO performance funds.  They live in the real world where they will pour HUGE sums of money into purchasing any investment that can give them a 25% annual return on their money.  

That may be ICN tokens very soon, if ICONOMI can turn $4.6M into $17M during 2017 by investing ICNP funds into startup crypto efforts.

And you certainly should not panic about putting your money into something that could quite easily give you 25% or more return on your investment annually.

I am HODLING.


568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 10, 2016, 06:12:52 PM
 We are less than three weeks from ICN distribution
Just curious where you heard this tidbit?  Distribution is over and q1 is over 6 weeks away?

Quote from: MalReynolds
I will be wearing shorts and a Hawaiian shirt when this time comes...                                            
oh nyce... a few of us are in Hawaii maybe we should do lunch... Don't forget Flip-Flops!  Wink

I was trying to say coins were only released less than three weeks ago so it's too early to expect dramatic progress yet.  

I've been to Hawaii three times in the past 40 years, it is one of the most spectacular and beautiful places on Earth.  I have made a special effort all three visits to see not just Hono but also Hilo and the Volcano Park.  I am sure I will come again and I will definitely drop by for a visit.  

Try to get those telescopes built in the meantime.  I am a big space science buff and we need those things built.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Meter_Telescope_protests
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 10, 2016, 12:10:46 PM
If I had taken out that crypto to Fiat, I would have been left with nothing now. I live in India. In India, recently, to remove black money, the use of ₹500, 1000 notes ( equivalent to approx $8 and $16) has been banned. India would offer new notes in the coming days in exchange of that old notes.
If I had converted crypto to Fiat, maybe it would be detected as black money, for such big amounts of money compared to my monthly income in real world.

Good luck to you on your crypto investments.

I too am very interested in keeping large sums on the blockchain instead of fiat or banks.  The world is changing and the little guy is getting screwed.  All central banks have pushed interest rates to zero to make people spend more money and encourage consumption / growth in the economy.  This has destroyed people's savings as individuals and has destroyed capitalism as a business model in Europe and North America.  Now the central banks are interested in NEGATIVE interest rates because raising interest rates  now would drive national budgets into bankruptcy.  Negative interest rates are stealth taxes by central banks that national governments don't have the guts to  implement themselves.  In order for central banks to start doing negative interest rates, first they have to destroy cash as an alternate safe haven for the little guys to place their savings.  This is why all the large denomination bills in all countries are under attack.  In the US there are serious proposals to get rid of the $100 and $50 bills.  I believe this would have happened in the first year of a Clinton presidency and why I am THRILLED that Trump won - even if he is crazy.

I recommend that everybody read http://zerohedge.com daily to understand this stuff - it is really quite scary and getting worse.

You can start with this article, which everybody should read:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-09/american-uprising
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 10, 2016, 11:55:58 AM
I hope this infographics helps people who don't bother reading the whitepaper or FAQs Smiley

This is a great infographic and I encourage you to improve it.  

I suggest a pile of gold coins behind the guy in the chair.  Put your phrase "The more ICN you hold" over this pile of coins, and put the phrase "the more weekly ETH dividends you receive" under the conveyor belt.

Maybe put a ICN / BTC chart behind the gold coins with an upward zig-zag arrow?  Maybe with a question mark?  Showing that the ICN you hold could become more valuable with time?
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 10, 2016, 11:18:38 AM
Still, meeting someone in person is not the same as reading about what he achieved.

True.  I have been burned in the past for large sums by going with only what I read about a crypto person, and I have taken a risk in doing so again here.  But I believe in Jani and his team, their record is impressive.  

Would I be happier if ICN had a little pop at launch and permanently stayed above ICO price?  Of course.  And I am disappointed that has not happened.  But everybody's sense of time is so skewed in the crypto world.  We are less than three weeks from ICN distribution and it is not reasonable to expect huge progress on the actual platform yet.  I am patient.

I have broken the number one rule of investing by putting all my available crypto resources on one trade here.  Why?  I am too much of a poker player, I like that thrill of being "all-in".  Plus, I am not a rich man in real life.  I have a job and not enough saved for retirement.  My investment in ICN is a huge amount of money, but it is the culmination of two years of crypto trading starting from a much smaller sum that I could afford to lose.  My finances in real life are completely seperate (and much less dramatic) that my crypto investments.  My goal is to get in on a BTC / ETH level of pop and then pull it all out and retire.  (Or maybe leave it in and live off ICONOMI dividends?  We'll see...) I believe ICONOMI can get me where I want to go, but it will take time.  More time than 16 days.  And with a few dips between here and there.  

I hope this infographics helps people who don't bother reading the whitepaper or FAQs Smiley

I love infographics and I love yours.  But just so you know, I will be wearing shorts and a Hawaiian shirt when this time comes...                                            
572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 09, 2016, 11:21:57 PM

I believe it was stated to contact them for investments bigger than 100K dollar equivalent....


...only if you were purchasing in EUR or USD fiat.  I used BTC.

Quote
My ICN has been withdrawn to off-line cold storage, too

How is it possible to put icn in a cold wallet? Making a paper copy of myetherwallet?

My "cold wallet" is not on paper, it is on a completely isolated computer not attached to the Internet.  I have made multiple copies of the passcode and key file but I never attach the backup USB thumb drive containing the private key file to any computer on the Internet.

Anyone can claim that. But can you proof it? Any digital signature that proves that holding?

That's an interesting question.  I did a bit of searching on Google and I can't find anything that would let me encode something using my ETH private key file address for this account number to show I am actually in control of this account number.   Anybody have any ideas on how to do that?  I am running myetherwallet on my air-gapped computer where the key file is....
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 09, 2016, 06:20:08 PM
anywayz, my ICN's are kept at the Iconomi site (cold storage if I'm correct) and I'm getting some BTC ready to buy some additional tokens. As my sig says, panic selling is not an investment strategy. Keep that in mind and you'll get great rewards  Wink

I am a whale.  I have not put a single ICN up for sale at Kraken in the past 16 days and I will not do so now.

My ICN has been withdrawn to off-line cold storage, too. They will stay there.  ICONOMI is destined for greatness.

This is me.  I am HODLING.

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0x77054376c0d1f737195d65a34ba5676433fbe7ce
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 08, 2016, 02:07:19 AM
why dont u pay 5BTC to get on bittrex already ?

That's too much, Bittrex require only 3 BTC for guaranteed listing on their exchange.

https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202583854-Submitting-a-Coin-to-Bittrex

I'm all for getting on as many exchanges as possible.  But let's face facts.  Kraken is already 4X bigger than Bittrex.  And Poloniex is 3X bigger than Kraken.

Polo is where ICN needs to be.

http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/
575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔹🅰RK🔹 [ANN][ARK] A Platform for Consumer Adoption [ARK-TEC LIVE!] 120% Bonus on: November 08, 2016, 01:44:38 AM
As the Lisk escrow agent for ARK, I want to share with you a calculation I just did that is a bit....unusual.

Question:  How many Lisk does ARK need to hit their 2000 BTC minimum target?

Well, according to coinmarketcap.com, BTC is currently worth 705 USD each, and Lisk is currently worth 0.21 USD each.



So 2000 * 705 = $1,410,000, call it $1.4M even for ARK to hit their minimum donation level.

So in Lisk instead of BTC, ARK needs 1.4M / 0.21 =  6,666,666.66666666 Lisk

Good luck, ARK!!!  It takes balls indeed to ask for the Devil's Number of Lisk to start your journey!

FOLLOW LISK DONATIONS TO ARK  HERE:

https://tec.ark.io/

Or here:  https://explorer.lisk.io/address/9569486828221897676L

576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 07, 2016, 12:26:47 PM

MalReinolds, this wallet is yours?

Well, we can see whales on the ICN boat! Thats good

That's not me.  I'm not buying now only because I've already put all my available crypto resources into the ICONOMI ICO.  And I'm HODLING.

ICONOMI:  No mining.  No forging.  No coin inflation.  No timing or synchronization problems among members.  No huge backlogs against a 7 tps limit.  No development of new programming languages.  No titanic disasters that lose tens of millions of dollars from a software bug.  No flame wars about corrupt foundations and purity of immutability.  No gigantic blockchain files that get more and more sluggish with every gigabyte.

ICONOMI focuses solely on setting up a gigantic slide for new people to use in pouring new money into crypto.   And catching some of that money on its way down the slide.  This is a brilliant and ultimately lucrative idea worth HODLING for.

The ICONOMI platform is going to be just like those sluice boxes on my long-time favorite TV program Gold Rush:



577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔹🅰RK🔹 [ANN][ARK] A Platform for Consumer Adoption [TEC - 120% Lisk Bonus] on: November 07, 2016, 12:00:48 AM
who will be escrow for lisk

Our Head of Finance and MalReynolds

I confirm this.  Only the ARK Head of Finance has the passcode to the Lisk account itself, but not the withdrawal authorization code which only I have.  We have to cooperate to send Lisk out of the account after ICO ends.  We set this up a few hours ago.

https://explorer.lisk.io/address/9569486828221897676L

As I have stated before, I am a friend of ARK but not a member of their core team.
578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 06, 2016, 09:42:25 PM
...this will take off before dumpers have a chance to buy back in.

And that's EXACTLY why I'm ignoring mild value swings in ICN price and HODLING.
579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 06, 2016, 09:40:36 PM
Oh we're talking $ value?  Are we back to the old economy now?

To each his own. For me the $ is not my denominator. BTC is.

We're always gonna be using the value of the least volatile currency to compare what's happening between other currencies.  Today, and probably tomorrow, that's the USD.   Eventually BTC may become less volatile that the US Dollar.  But not yet.
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 06, 2016, 09:34:15 PM
Bought at 20k sat, now it's trading at 16k sat.
That's 20% down since ICO.

You bought at 20k sat when BTC was at 605 USD/BTC, so 0.00020*605 = 0.121 USD per ICN.

Now you've got 16k sat with BTC is at 706 USD/BTC, so 0.00016*706 = 0.113 USD per ICN.

0.113/0.121 = 0.933 which means ICN currently has 93.3% of its ICO value.

ICN is not even down 7% from its ICO value.  Stop saying the situation is 3 times worse than it really is.

Math.  It's one of humanity's greatest achievements.  Use it.
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