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561  Economy / Services / Re: Apple iPhone Factory Unlocking - Best Prices - Fastest Service on: April 11, 2013, 01:50:14 PM
I will, if you can unlock Bell Canada. Or Canada Bell. hehe.

Smiley Yeah, sorry I can't. Something to note though is that for $2 I can check the status of an IMEI and find out who it's locked to if you are unsure.
562  Economy / Speculation / Re: How does it feel to have sold < $120? on: April 10, 2013, 09:05:31 PM
I was thinking of starting a thread to ask... who's the sucker who sold for $105? Come on, admit it!!  Grin

I didn't buy or sell. Stomach cramped a bit and I sure wish I could have bought some of those $78 coins at bitstamp wowsers
563  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's just a minor correction - the bears are committing suicide at the gates on: April 10, 2013, 08:21:25 PM
50%+ is not a "minor correction", just for your future reference...

If you're looking at it from a 24 hour period.

It didn't even break a rolling weeks low.
564  Economy / Economics / Re: Calling to now May-1-2013 1BTC=25USD on: April 10, 2013, 08:19:39 PM
Me thinks this should be in speculation?
565  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can you DDoS a VPN server? on: April 10, 2013, 06:29:38 PM
Thanks a bunch for your help. Learned some great stuff now I'm going to go test it out. 10 Mbps vps should be easy to test the concept. Thanks a bunch.
566  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can you DDoS a VPN server? on: April 10, 2013, 05:40:42 PM
The VPS is running OpenVPN and on the 10Mbit/s line, correct? You should be able to. The authentication shouldn't matter at all. No reason to try to authenticate unless the authentication process is so slow it's more efficient to make the server come to a crawl by sending it real authentication requests. You don't have to send it to the particular port. Any traffic, TCP/UDP, to any port, sent to that IP *should* make it there.

That's right, a DDoS could be this many times over from multiple machines. You may be able to find an account on a seedbox or another VPS or two to send the attack. I'd give hping3 a try disabling wait times between packets and with 1500 byte (total) packets. UDP, TCP, shouldn't matter. Note that sending an attack from the box may render the attacker unreachable. A script which kills itself after 10 seconds might be good to get back into it, in case that happens.

Sincerely,
Teran

I'm going to give it a shot. Thanks for the input. So even if the iptables only allows the connection on the UDP, I can still send it port 80 traffic and take it to its knees?
567  Economy / Speculation / Re: From Bull to Bear. Sold it all. on: April 10, 2013, 05:10:46 PM
Broke below 200 on btc-e.

Holy moly this stuff is crazy.

BUY IT.  There is no fundamental reason it is going down other that another DDOS.  Use the opportunity to make money just like the people doing the attack are.   Do not be a sucker.

I'd hold off, this is the one I think.
It will go below $190.

This is coming from a pretty strong bull. It got overextended.

187 at btc-e. I'm not being a bear or anything, just stating where it's at. BTCE took a minute to see gox dropping hard.

I don't keep my coins on the exchange and I'm not trying to wait a few confirmations and panic. I'm long. Weather that's good or not on a short term basis.
568  Economy / Speculation / Re: Criminal ddos in progress? on: April 10, 2013, 05:07:04 PM
Bitfloor was toast there for a bit their web, api and web socket.
569  Economy / Speculation / Re: From Bull to Bear. Sold it all. on: April 10, 2013, 05:04:46 PM
Broke below 200 on btc-e.

Holy moly this stuff is crazy.
570  Other / Off-topic / Re: Can you DDoS a VPN server? Rent a bot net? on: April 10, 2013, 05:02:46 PM
These are good questions and you asked them humbly. I hope this is a good response.

Can a VPN service like say the one provided by Private Internet Access. If the only port they have opened on a server is an OpenVPN port, no http, mail, or anything else, can it be DDoSed?

Yes, absolutely. So I'll start with the literal meanings and go into the technicalities.

DoS = Denial of Service
DDoS = Distributed Denial of Service

So a DoS usually comes from one source, or is really small. DDoS is likely to come from a botnet and be rather large, at least in term usage.

A DoS attack can be very simple, or more complicated. If you want to "deny service" from a service, you usually have to keep it from giving service. That could mean simply disconnecting a cable. Or making so many fake orders on a website that there's nothing else in stock, in which case there's no more service which people can take.

More commonly, a DoS can be a network flood enough to saturate the link. If their connection can only handle 10MB/s of traffic and you flood them with 10+MB/s of traffic, not much else is going to get through. Any services, OpenVPN, SMTP/email, HTTP, all depend on the network link on the server to serve traffic. The firewall on the server itself pretty much can do nothing other than drop traffic for ports already open (or move traffic around in silly ways if needed). But it won't stop traffic from hitting the interface. You can send UDP traffic or even a completely different layer 4 altogether, and it'll probably get to the host and have an effect, at least in terms of network saturation.

More efficiently in terms of bandwidth, you can do HTTP benchmarks. If the webserver/web code is slow or particularly misconfigured, that alone will make a website mostly unavailable. If the service is over TCP at all (I think OpenVPN can do TCP and/or UDP), a TCP syn flood is possible.

So you really have to look at network saturation, application saturation, service saturation, and server saturation. If any of those are "saturated", it can  be a successful denial of service.

If I wanted to try it in person, set up my own VPN server and DDoS it, are there simple legitimate DDoS services or methods or are they all black market?

Kind of iffy. You may have issues with hosting providers on both ends. Most hosting providers don't like their network being needlessly flooded. For a DoS from a single source (or multiple, if you have several VPSs), you can try hping3. I have seen one DDoS-as-a-service website, and maybe there are some "legitimate" ones, but that is still questionable. You can search for them and try them if you like. Your best option is to test it out locally. If you can get three machines and a switch, you can set the server to negotiate to 10Mbit/s (to make it easier) on the ethernet link, have the attacking machine flood the server, and see what happens when the real client tries to reach it.

You can also do that in a VM environment, all on your desktop. Of course, it's not entirely as realistic due to certain factors, but may be enough of a test. And keep in mind, DoS on a switch is much harder than over a router. Routers are so much slower than switches in terms of packet-per-second performance. They are often the bottle neck in many cases.

If you want a good DDoS service to do a real world test (which is a bad idea), you can try the black market sites on Tor.

I hope this helps a bit! Let me know if you have any more questions about this.

Sincerely,
Teran

I appreciate the response. I've do understand the basics of DoS and DDoS.

Let me ask specifically in the example though for either one.

DoS. I have an OpenVPN set for UDP only. I require a password and a SSL certificate. If I got a little 10 meg connection VPS to test this, can I use hping3 to flood 100 megs of data towards that UDP port? Because I won't actually be authenticating, an attacker wouldn't have that data.

Then a DDoS, would be more along the lines of a bunch of people doing that same thing? So, I can test a DoS at it for now. How can I point some thick bandwidth at a VPS server running open VPN and the only port open on it would be the UDP?

571  Other / Off-topic / Can you DDoS a VPN server? on: April 10, 2013, 03:38:14 PM
I'm not looking to do anything illegal.

Can a VPN service like say the one provided by Private Internet Access be DDoS attacked? If the only port they have opened on a server is an OpenVPN port, no http, mail, or anything else, can it be DDoSed? Would this make it so their customers could not connect to the VPN and utilize the service?

If I wanted to try it in person, set up my own VPN server and DDoS it, are there simple legitimate DDoS services or methods or are they all black market?

MODs feel free to move this if I screwed up where I should put this.
572  Other / Meta / Re: Forum record broken April 3 2013 on: April 10, 2013, 01:41:07 PM
I have a feeling it will be broken again in the near future, and then not long after that, and then not long after that, repeat for a little while.

I'm okay with that post here. However, if anyone wants to speculate on a bubble pop / end of forum record breaking, take that to the speculation forum Cheesy
573  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why I will never buy from bitinstant.com again on: April 09, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Try contacting them. They have a thread for newbies you can ask for support.
574  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price alert idea on: April 09, 2013, 09:27:06 PM
I think people would definitely be interested in a service like that, but make sure it doesn't already exist. I know that the iPhone app btcReport supports price alerts by iOS notifications. If such an SMS service doesn't exist I'd say go for it. You may like to even include a service to automatically cash out their MtGox bitcoins, they would need to be happy giving you their API key however. You would need to access MtGox's API to implement this.

Yup, it already exists.

http://www.bitcointextmessage.com/

And it's pretty cheap too, 10 cents an alert, you set up the alert levels.

Thank you. Did you ever try?

Yeah, they give you the first two for free.
575  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price alert idea on: April 09, 2013, 09:13:15 PM
I think people would definitely be interested in a service like that, but make sure it doesn't already exist. I know that the iPhone app btcReport supports price alerts by iOS notifications. If such an SMS service doesn't exist I'd say go for it. You may like to even include a service to automatically cash out their MtGox bitcoins, they would need to be happy giving you their API key however. You would need to access MtGox's API to implement this.

Yup, it already exists.

http://www.bitcointextmessage.com/

And it's pretty cheap too, 10 cents an alert, you set up the alert levels.
576  Other / Meta / Re: Forum record broken April 3 2013 on: April 09, 2013, 09:11:16 PM
Most Online Today: 5690. Most Online Ever: 5690 (Today at 08:53:48 PM)

Well, I can assume we'll be breaking this for a little while, I'll report back in a week or two.
577  Other / Meta / Re: Forum record broken April 3 2013 on: April 09, 2013, 05:26:29 PM
Ooops, that one didn't stand very long.

Most Online Today: 5317. Most Online Ever: 5317 (Today at 03:47:17 PM)


Edit

Most Online Today: 5673. Most Online Ever: 5673 (Today at 06:58:16 PM)
578  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New MtGox Lag Indicator Website on: April 09, 2013, 04:47:22 PM
Quote
YES

IT IS LAGGING

Lag is :0.12 seconds


0.12 doesn't seem too bad.
579  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I want FPGA in Canada on: April 09, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
You could always build your own. Also, see: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#FPGA

If one was forced to make and fpga miner. Is there a reputable source/tutorial to put one together?

+1

Is there a PCB design available that could be manufactured and a list of components to solder on? Most difficult thing will be tossing the FPGA on there depending on the package but it seems doable.
580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Gavin and Evoorhees May Be Giving Wrong Advice on: April 08, 2013, 09:49:19 PM
...I think when it comes to speculation Gavin and Evoorhees should stay quite and keep to themselves....

Quiet.
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