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5601  Other / Politics & Society / Re: That's it. I am done. This country is done. I am getting the fuck out of here. on: November 28, 2011, 07:31:48 PM


The police state is already occurring, Socialist Republic of California Tongue

Guns and ammo.



i got one behind my bedroom door, got one in my car, even thought of putting one in the fridge.  I mean when was the last time a burglar checked behind your milk.  I might be able to just casually open the fridge one day if i were held hostage by some meth heads in my house.  And then wham!  38 special snub nose!  Only worry is rust.
Haha, yeah a refrigerator wouldn't work too well.  It'd rust up quickly with the condensation in there.

Isn't it illegal to carry firearms in your car out of sight?

depends on the state.  where i am (NY) u need a concealed carry license to have a loaded gun of any kind in your car.  if not, you must unload it.  but with a glove box and a detachable mag...well you get the point.
Sounds similar to where I live (Oregon).
5602  Other / Off-topic / Re: Like this page to advocate more Linux games!!! on: November 28, 2011, 07:26:01 PM
Ewww, linux!
5603  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I am not concerned about the ethics of miner botnets. on: November 28, 2011, 07:20:37 PM
The issue w/ CPU based chains is the fact that limiting the defenders to the same hardware as attackers only ensure it is cheaper to destroy the chain.  I don't see any blockchain that intentionally limits hashing to less efficient hardware surviving.
That's actually a very good point.
5604  Other / Politics & Society / Re: That's it. I am done. This country is done. I am getting the fuck out of here. on: November 28, 2011, 07:18:20 PM


The police state is already occurring, Socialist Republic of California Tongue

Guns and ammo.



i got one behind my bedroom door, got one in my car, even thought of putting one in the fridge.  I mean when was the last time a burglar checked behind your milk.  I might be able to just casually open the fridge one day if i were held hostage by some meth heads in my house.  And then wham!  38 special snub nose!  Only worry is rust.
Haha, yeah a refrigerator wouldn't work too well.  It'd rust up quickly with the condensation in there.

Isn't it illegal to carry firearms in your car out of sight?
5605  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 27, 2011, 09:16:40 AM
If someone won't do something as simple as show you the hardware after MONTHS .... then there is no hardware.

I understand this, but Tawsix said "We could sell all of our GPUs and buy FPGA boards with the money."

So their is hardware to sell. Why don't we sell half of the hardware and buy a small FPGA cluster ?

Why not sell all of the GPUs and go full into FPGA mining?  We have plenty motherboards for the foreseeable future (at least 4 FPGA boards per motherboard, possibly more, I need to do more research on how one goes about utilizing them.)  The page you linked said that they get at least 200 MHash/sec which implies that they can be pushed to do more (not sure what the expense is besides consuming more power, perhaps greater heat output?)  If heat output is the issue with these cards we should be sitting well, the cooling system we have in place now would not be hard to adapt to the new boards, if it needed to be adapted at all.

Once again, avoiding the page of requests to list what hardware actually exists.   Roll Eyes

Can you say SCAMMER any louder?
5606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nobody here likes money? Bitcoin is dirt cheap on Tradehill, for DAYS... on: November 27, 2011, 06:21:09 AM
It's because Tradehill doesn't do Dwolla deposits anymore.  Fewer deposits = lower price.
5607  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 26, 2011, 12:40:30 AM
@Tawsix, why don't you sell the hardware and buy dual FPGA boards from http://cablesaurus.com/ ?

I have looked into these FPGA boards and I really like the idea.  We could sell all of our GPUs and buy FPGA boards with the money.  The only issue I see with that is that in the event of a Bitcoin crash, the boards might not resell for as much of a percentage of retail value as the GPUs, but I'm not sure about that point, if anyone would like to enlighten me.

I would like to hear other people's opinions on this.
NO.

At least not until you list WHAT hardware we would be selling instead of it.  You have refused to list it, and I have a feeling you have something to hide.  Every time talk of selling the current hardware comes up, you seem to jump on it, anxious to get rid of the hardware before anyone can question what hardware actually exists.

NO ONE should agree to this!  Not until someone else at least verifies what hardware exists!
5608  Economy / Gambling / Re: Big Changes at Bittleships.com, huge winnings! [Bittleships.com] on: November 25, 2011, 09:22:06 PM
I hit a ship, only got 0.24 BTC.  Did you bring down the prize per battleship from 0.4 BTC, or is that a bug?
5609  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mineral Oil cooled rigs.... on: November 25, 2011, 08:55:15 PM


Agree guys. It all goes down to cost. Air basically is free. You just need a bunch of fans (and an AC if your in a hot country Sad ) to cool your stuff down......

But its worth a try if one does something homemade or custom built without these expensive kits.......

I wonder how much wattage could be dissipated just by putting a rig in an unmoving aquarium full of mineral oil...
5610  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mineral Oil cooled rigs.... on: November 25, 2011, 08:40:01 PM
I don't think the first link is the link you want.

Cooling w/ mineral oil is possible however there are a couple of issues.
1) Heat conductivity of mineral oil is relatively low compared to water.  This means a larger flow rate is required.
2) Resale of equipment is essentially zero
3) Mineral oil is viscous (thick) so to it requires more powerful pump than distilled water.  
4) Mineral oil is relatively expensive as a working fluid.

It would be an interesting project but I doubt it would be any cheaper than water cooling.  Any money you would save by not needing a waterblock would be offset by much more expensive pump, large amounts of expensive mineral oil, and container to submerge components.

For example that kit there is about $600 and requires 12 gallons of mineral oil = $120.  So $720.  That is more than my watercooling kit for 3x5970s.

1) Not necessarily.  Since the oil is in direct contact with computing surfaces, whereas water must run through a waterblock, Not much of a flow rate is necessary.  Sure, if you ran mineral oil through a waterblock, you'd need a much higher flow rate.  But comparing the two as-is is apples and oranges.
2) No - components can be cleaned with rubbing alcohol or distilled water easily enough.
3) Again, apples to oranges.  A more powerful pump won't necessarily be needed, as the flow rate requirement might actually be lower than with a watercooled rig.
4) This is true.  Extremely expensive.

And agree with your last statement about it being an interesting experiment, but not for saving money.
5611  Economy / Goods / Re: NewEgg Black Friday - Diamond 5970 for $299 shipped on: November 25, 2011, 08:27:48 PM
I hope you all read the fine print:

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Return for refund within: non-refundable
Return for replacement within: 60 days
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-EP
Good call.  Smiley
5612  Economy / Goods / Re: NewEgg Black Friday - Diamond 5970 for $299 shipped on: November 25, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
On top of that great price, "Free Shipping, 60-Day Return & Price Guarantee on this Product."

So mine for 59 days, then ship em back for a full refund!
Or, if you have any sort of ethical or moral standards, don't do that.

What if he donated all the bitcoins he mined with it during that period to impoverished families?  Would he then be some sort of Robin Hood? Hrmmm.....
I suppose so... I mean, to an extent.  He'd be stealing from both the rich and the poor.  Lot of the people who own stocks are mutual funds, who manage retirement accounts for the average Joe.

That said, I don't even believe Robit Hood is morally right in what he does.  Theft is wrong, regardless of who is being stolen from or the purpose behind it.
5613  Economy / Goods / Re: NewEgg Black Friday - Diamond 5970 for $299 shipped on: November 25, 2011, 09:10:13 AM
On top of that great price, "Free Shipping, 60-Day Return & Price Guarantee on this Product."

So mine for 59 days, then ship em back for a full refund!
Or, if you have any sort of ethical or moral standards, don't do that.
5614  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is user BitcoinPorn dead? on: November 22, 2011, 10:27:40 PM
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5615  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Two possible bugs, and perhaps a bitcoin breakdown, and perhaps even str attack. on: November 22, 2011, 08:40:30 PM
Well at least this guy doesn't mind diving in headfirst!
5616  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Two possible bugs, and perhaps a bitcoin breakdown, and perhaps even str attack. on: November 22, 2011, 06:45:52 PM
You completely misread that link regarding difficulty.  Reread this:

Code:
The highest possible target (difficulty 1) is defined as 0x1d00ffff, which gives us a hex target of
0x00ffff * 2**(8*(0x1d - 3)) = 0x00000000FFFF0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

So [b]the difficulty at 0x1b0404cb[/b] is therefore:

0x00000000FFFF0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 /
0x00000000000404CB000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
= 16307.420938523983

It doesn't say max difficulty is 16307.  That's just an example.
5617  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Photo hour - a bitcoin art project - now, get up to one bitcoin BOON on: November 22, 2011, 05:30:20 PM
Ok, I won the latest auction on bidding pond.  My wife gave me the mission of anything to do with white and red flowers.  Not sure if that's possible this time of year, but good luck!
5618  Economy / Marketplace / Re: SkepsiDyne Integrated Node - The Bitcoin Mining Company on: November 22, 2011, 04:17:56 PM
http://www.judgejudy.com/submit_your_case I'd love to see her figure this one out.  Cheesy
People's court is better...
5619  Economy / Services / Re: Will render a psychedelic glowsticking video to any song of your choice for 2.5B on: November 21, 2011, 07:03:27 PM
is this really you? Doing this with glow sticks? its not like computer generated?

In that case I will gladly hire you to do this song:

"THE DEVIL GLITCH" by Chris Butler

http://www.nutscape.com/ChrisButler/guinness.htm

It's 69 mins long and has 500 verses.. Well worth 2.5 BTC !

Still not as long as Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 (74 min).
5620  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving away more free bitcoins!! on: November 21, 2011, 06:27:33 PM
How many seconds are added to the timer per bid?
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