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5601  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon official reponse to Bitmine bankruptcy - Let the evidence talk on: July 15, 2015, 01:21:33 AM
I'd be interested in looking at some of that. Haven't had a good laugh in a while.
The schems, BOM and PCB files remain property of Bitmine.ch and I have to respct that part of the NDA I had with AMT.

What I can say is that Bitmine pretty much took the 2-chip dev board that was being used in the A1 dev thread here and multiplied it into a lot of 2-chp layouts on 1 big board. Also apparently never paid attention to what was being said there about thermals when the chips are pushed to published specs.

As to Vcore... Due to product availability AMT used a different model of the regulator chip that had a higher value internal ref divider (100k vs 10k). But - dinna change the external resistor values to match the difference. Also AMT/Bitmine never tried to set the internal flash ram in the regulator to startup at a safe voltage. Result: For several seconds the ASICS are hit with a Vcore voltage above their max ratings until a bootstrap program is run to set it to the correct voltage.  Roll Eyes

EDI: Correction. Looking through my notes was the DPOT feeding the regulators set point that was substituted w/o correcting the fixed resistor values in the reference divider tied to it. End result was the same.
5602  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Innosilicon official reponse to Bitmine bankruptcy - Let the evidence talk on: July 15, 2015, 12:19:50 AM
All in all I side with Inno's OP explanation of what went down in the Bitmine.ch/AMT A1 miners fiasco.

As an attempt to help out with the A1 mess from AMT/Bitmine, I did forensics on several of the A1 boards that Bitmine/AMT were using from late Feb thru around mid-May of 2014. They went through several revisions in that period. These boards and a testbed were provided courtesy of Joshua Zipkin owner of AMT. Since aside from a different name on them they are the same boards, my findings should apply.

Bottom line is that whoever designed those boards and ESPECIALLY the thermals layout should be shot (figuratively of course). As evidence, re the difference in the large topside heatsinks that the Dragons used: Bitmine/AMT 1st tried none at all then tiny chipsinks held on by thermal tape. 1 guess as to which hashboards had highly heat-discolored sinks falling off and chips literally going poof letting out their Majik Smoke.

Trying to get information from Bitmine's engineer on even the most basic things like how the ASICs are reset on power up generally resulted in, 'uh, what?' By digging deeper through the schems provided I found how they did it and their method of choice often/mostly worked but was certainly not 100% reliable. I won't even get into the Vcore regulator issues I found...
5603  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: June 13, 2015, 11:42:19 PM
Looking at it from the front, in the s4, which board is which chain?
One of my original B2 s4's is acting up and finally failed in a manner that kept the controller/GUI accessible. Says that chain 3 is all ----------
Cheers!

Someone made a text diagram early on in this thread but I can't find it, and my S4 is probably different to most as it was an early one. The dead board might be highlighted by no LED activity though, worth a look.
Tried that. At least for the versions that used PCIe power connectors like this one, there are no LED's on the boards. There *is* a row of very tiny ones on the controller board that could serve the same functions but is no way these eyes can see what they are labeled.

As usual after it has gone down, after a power down and short rest it again came back up at full speed. The 2 other times it went down the controller was dead - no lan plug lights, no blinking CPU light, no red light.

To cover other questions, all fans are fine, free spinning, no axial play to the blades. Temps 55-59c (room is 90F). Psu light is green.

Here is the Board Diagnostics it shows which port should be chain 3 in one of it's diagrams - https://bitmain.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203361315-Board-Diagnostics

When it say's the row 3 all with"-"s does it run at 1.5T area?   Or is it not running at all during this time?
Thanks! I'l check that on Mon when I get back to work. Very good pic of the controller board at that link showing which connector is what chain.
Assuming it goes offline again that is. I reseated the PCIe plugs & dropped it to stock speed late Fri and it's still ticking along per Pool reporting. Und ja when chain 3 went out speed dropped proportionately. Before asked, the highest I OC to is 218.75mHz due to PSU limits.

When this started going south last Thursday, the 1st 2 times it died in both cases the red Fault light on front was lit and controller was unresponsive to ssh or web access. Odd thing is - in both cases the LCD display was lit and showing results from its last update: full speed and temps in the low 60c range. All fans sounded like running at normal speeds. Both those things suggest the PSU is/was working fine.

This 3rd incident was the first time it stayed alive enough to get an inkling of what was up.
5604  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: June 13, 2015, 03:38:57 AM
Looking at it from the front, in the s4, which board is which chain?
One of my original B2 s4's is acting up and finally failed in a manner that kept the controller/GUI accessible. Says that chain 3 is all ----------
Cheers!

Someone made a text diagram early on in this thread but I can't find it, and my S4 is probably different to most as it was an early one. The dead board might be highlighted by no LED activity though, worth a look.
Tried that. At least for the versions that used PCIe power connectors like this one, there are no LED's on the boards. There *is* a row of very tiny ones on the controller board that could serve the same functions but is no way these eyes can see what they are labeled.

As usual after it has gone down, after a power down and short rest it again came back up at full speed. The 2 other times it went down the controller was dead - no lan plug lights, no blinking CPU light, no red light.

To cover other questions, all fans are fine, free spinning, no axial play to the blades. Temps 55-59c (room is 90F). Psu light is green.
5605  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: June 12, 2015, 05:41:01 PM
Looking at it from the front, in the s4, which board is which chain?
One of my original B2 s4's is acting up and finally failed in a manner that kept the controller/GUI accessible. Says that chain 3 is all ----------
Cheers!
5606  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S5 + Laser cutter mods... on: June 12, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
Very very nice!
Only thing I would suggest changing is that for fire safety, use polycarbonate (Lexan) vs acrylic. Acrylic does not self-extinguish whereas polycarb does.
Only problem though is esthetics as polycarb gives a bit bubbly & brown edge when laser cut.
5607  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Buying S5 from Bitmain Batch on: June 08, 2015, 11:14:36 PM
Do you have an ebay link for these heatsinks / radiators? I would be interested in these. My S5s fans have their ar$es on fire since summer started.

It's a picture of S5 shipped by Bitmain (Sic!). I was expected my S5 will arrive with such radiators too...  Angry

Take dimensions of copper plates where you'll glue the radiators and dig the Internet - e-bay, AliExpress, Dealextreme....

p.s. I'll take care of it some day soon, you may just wait a day or two.  Wink
And the key word above is 'GLUE'. Do not just use sticky thermal tape. From past experience using it on my retired s1's I can tell ya after a month or so the heatsinks start sliding towards the center of the earth... Fortunately I caught that before things started shorting out!

Always use a thermal epoxy so they stay put. Just a small dollop per sink is all that is needed. Also conducts heat better than thermal tape.
5608  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain S5 Replacement Fan on: June 05, 2015, 10:49:39 PM
Max be 239CFM  That's very close to my Big boy deltas I use to cool my radiator for my OC i7 3930k~ 4.7ghz.....
Whats the Air Pressure?    My delta at 252CFM is: 1.412 IN H2O 35.877 mmH2O

What do you mean by "1.412 IN H2O 35.877 mmH2O".  I'm sure you make sense.  It's just that I know the lingo.

 1.412 Iches of H2O
Or
 35.877 milmeters H2O

Often called a 'head' of water

 It is the pressure required to support a water column of the specified height. It is equivalent to 9.80665 Pa, using the equation:

    P = ρ·g·h/1000
 

or TL/DR how hard the air coming from that fan is pushing
It refers to how much resistance the fan can overcome while moving x-amount of air. In our case, the resistance comes from pushing the air through the narrow passageways of the heatsinks. Another term for it would be back-pressure.

The higher that resistance the harder the fans has to work to move air through it.

Fans for miners or any other device with high-density fins on the power devices have to over come a substantial back-pressure to be able to move the required airflow through the heatsinks.

By and large to produce high pressure a fan either A) has to be fairly thick to control how much air leaks between the fan blades and the housing. Is why most PC fans @ 25mm thick suck at producing any real pressure. Miner fans are generally >35mm thick. Or B) the other way to get the pressure is speed. Put the 2 together and yer Golden.
5609  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: June 05, 2015, 10:28:41 PM
I wonder if Bitmain changed vendors for their fans in the last s4 production runs? I got my 1st 2 s4's shortly after B2 came out and so far fans in those are running perfect.

The s4 with short-lived fans I got a few months ago from Zoomhash - it was the last brand-new in box one they had Cheesy We are talking around only 2.5k hours run time vs at least 3x that on my other s4's. Hmm.
5610  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread on: June 05, 2015, 10:20:22 PM
Well I finally joined the dead S4 Fan(s) club. Had only 1 out the 4 reliably working so the 80c cut out got a good testing and passed with flying colors.

While waiting for Delta replacements to come in I did a little experimenting and found that the fans from my retired S1's WORK PERFECT! Back to running just over stock speed, hottest blade is 69-70C which is just fine. (room is 90F).
Happy happy joy joy! The only caveat is that ya have to use 4-pin fan extension cables but already have them on hand. Smiley

Also dug up the post on parts/how-to repair the fans. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=796839.msg10827831#msg10827831
5611  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: June 04, 2015, 10:39:58 PM
Is this plug n play, or am i going to get this and have to go buy a power cord for it?
im in US, so i assume i am ok with the 205V minimum?
Thanks
As Bitmain states in the product description, we need to supply our own cord.
Gets them off the hook in supporting the gazillion different national plug types out there.

If you are willing to cut the male end off of a 14ga 110v IEC cord and replace it with a 6-15P that can be used. Barring that try Amazon/eBay or here http://www.stayonline.com/208v-straight-blade-cords.aspx
5612  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread on: June 04, 2015, 04:00:23 AM
Finally some closure on this issue, with Bitmine's bankruptcy.

Those guys were well out of their depth in attempting to take this company forward,
and as I had warned on the unofficial Bitmine thread, from the end of May 2014 when
refunds ceased, bankruptcy was a possible outcome. I'll quote Upton Sinclair:
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"
My experience in dealing with these guys suggests that Bitmine kept paying salaries
until all the money was gone.

It's time to take some time to figure out what is left of Bitmine, and how to maximise
any returns to people like myself who pre-ordered miners. Maybe we need a new thread,
or just restart the old "Refunds" thread.
And by default since Bitmine's sole US representative was AMT ran by Giorgio's family friend Joshua Zipkin, some of the AMT customers as well though in our case continuing outright fraud is more the point.

Aside from now having confirmation about what I had heard here and there about what Innosilicon was doing, what happened pretty much mirrors what I was posting early on in the AMT threads: I indirectly work with the Semi industry and know the timelines for new chip development pretty well.

The timeline from Bitmine/AMT announcing the A1 and them almost immediately starting to take Investomer monies - sorry, 'pre-orders' - followed by the wildly over-optimistic delivery dates was simply not possible.

Sadly I dug up all this distressing information after I had placed an order with AMT on Feb. 26, 2014 for their 540GHs A1 rig Sad On the bright side, I was one of the very Lucky ones and finally *did* get my miner from AMT on August 22, 2014 - and it is a 1.2THs version only because the folks in China (Iltek) that Josh Zipkin found would only make that speed.

Thankfully after going through almost 2 months of lies from Joshua Zipkin in the AMT threads about how AMT/Bitmine were progressing with the A1, I had the nerve to fall back 3 and punt. Got my 1st Ants from Bitmain and have done very very well by them ever since:)
5613  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: bitcoin mining and your electrical outlets on: June 03, 2015, 06:10:33 PM
If your power isn't very good, I recommend buying a UPS.  It will protect your power supply during brown outs and spikes.  Also it will keep your miner running during very short power blips.

I had two power supplies blow.. my computer would keep restarting as I get like 10-20 brown outs a day.. UPS = golden fix.  Gotta keep that power smooth!!!
On miners and UPS's... Miners do NOT like yer normal PC stand-by UPS's. Been there, tried that with several different makes. Even with a miners PSU at 1/2 load every one I tried caused the miner to hang when they switch or adjusted the voltage. Reason is the relay switch transfer time which for most UPS's is spec'd at <10ms. That blip is long enough to often cause a big enough dip in the 12v output to lockup the controller. Sad

If you are going to uses a UPS is MUST be what is called a on-line UPS. Less efficient as they are always 'on' changing AC>DC>AC but there is zero transfer time. For several of my S4's and S2's I use http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups-systems/smart-app-ups/paragon-series/ol2200rtxl2u.html Pricey? Yes. However, are rock-solid.

btw, the s2's & 4's are the only ones on UPS's. When spiked (well, dipped really) they can be (are) the most susceptible to the sd card getting munged.. S3's and s5's just hang so the majority of the farm is not on UPS's. Waayyy too expensive to do that.
5614  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: June 03, 2015, 05:55:58 PM
and yet to see any testing on this by anyone on any gear.

which shows the current state of home mining is pretty much dead at the moment.

Or most folks already are well stocked with HP and/or IBM server supplies to take care of immediate future needs (like me)  Wink

But ja, unless folks have several 'spare' kw to use at home and a way to take care of the heat, home mining could well be kaput. That doesn't mean that only Peta-pharms will be Bitmain and any other mfgrs left as customers, just that it's now past the hobbyist stage and in the hands of folks that can afford & locate larger setups.

yeah for me I have summer rates of 16.9 cents add in 1.1 cents and at 18 cents home mining is done until oct 1  rates drop to 13.3 cents and with the heat made take off 3.3 cents and from oct 1 to june 1

 I am at 10 cents.

I have 1 spot to mine at 3.2  cents in the summer and 2.4 cents in the winter but my max power there is 1kwatt.
I am running 3 s-3's slight under clock.

any other renting is from rentals see sig.

please note my sig is a gift to west-nice hash and ck solopool
Heh heh.. I'm one of the lucky ones. I pay 15 cents kW-hr at home where I run 4.4Ths but at work my electric used for miners is 'free' so have 28Ths running there.  Tongue Our light-industrial rate there is 7.5 cents/kW-hr.
Nice being one of the owners Wink
5615  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: June 03, 2015, 03:41:41 PM
and yet to see any testing on this by anyone on any gear.

which shows the current state of home mining is pretty much dead at the moment.

Or most folks already are well stocked with HP and/or IBM server supplies to take care of immediate future needs (like me)  Wink

But ja, unless folks have several 'spare' kw to use at home and a way to take care of the heat, home mining could well be kaput. Now, that doesn't mean that the only customers left for Bitmain and any other mfgrs still around will be only Peta-farms, just that it's now past the hobbyist stage and in the hands of folks who can afford & locate larger setups.
5616  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: JOSHUA ZIPKINS THE MAN WHO DDOS'd BTCTALK!!!! on: May 28, 2015, 03:47:03 AM
Based on my primarily review of this person's background, it doesn't sound like he is exactly a great guy. With that being said, I don't think that anything CCN publishes is going to be reliable or credible. The evidence presented in the article means nothing as Skype logs can be faked, as can screenshots.

Even if the Skype logs prove to be legit, that doesn't mean that he was the one behind the hack. I am sure that there are a lot of people who want to hack the forum for a wide range of reasons.
Re: The Skype chats, They came from my chatroom originally setup to find out a solution to the A1 miner problem AMT/Bitmine.ch had. ref  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830189.msg9277338#msg9277338 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830189.msg9277558#msg9277558

As for the hack, yes, no smoking gun. Just intent and motive though the article does (briefly) point out that other parties are just as er, miffed, at Bitcointalk. Only difference we have Joshua Zipkin himself on record actually making an offer for someone to do it. But - still not definitive proof.
5617  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: JOSHUA ZIPKINS THE MAN WHO DDOS'd BTCTALK!!!! on: May 28, 2015, 02:26:40 AM
Continuing that, my #1 fan is a "suspect" of the hacking because he doesn't like the moderation / lack of moderation / perceived biasses of admins on here?
There you go again... Dragging him into something completely unrelated.

You really are a sad, bitter person, aren't you ?

Someone is wearing an eye patch, look at the post just above Roll Eyes. As I said last time, everything is about Bick because he makes it about Bick. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1071281.msg11464695#msg11464695


At any point was I never said he himself hacked the site. BUT I am reasonably certain based on ALOT of information I already have and have posted to this forum, that he had something to do with this. If he gets investigated I am sure something will drop regarding this. Since his last post on BCT the site has been hacked twice. This is not forensic by any stretch, but its certainly a lead and someone with extreme motive and means (money stolen from clients). So he certainly could have gotten someone to do this considering he approached me and others on this. Its worth investigating considering his other actions.
That's a different perspective to the CCN article which basically concluded he did it + Huh??. Motive is not evidence, its motive.
Forget thee not Joshua Zipkin also has (now publicly) stated intent per the Skype chats. And before ya get into that aspect (the chats) ref to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830189.msg9277338#msg9277338 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=830189.msg9277558#msg9277558

However, I agree that there certainly is no smoking gun and in fact Jeff Owenby of BFL has some recent though again, so far let's say 'insetting, links to the hack as well.
5618  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: JOSHUA ZIPKINS THE MAN WHO DDOS'd BTCTALK!!!! on: May 27, 2015, 11:45:15 PM
As for the article, I tend to agree that CCN may not have been the best place to go to BUT the piece does start out saying that is is speculative article.

While the Skype convos do point a finger at Josh as a possible perp, that is all it says. No where does the article conclude that Joshua Zipkin had anything to do with it. It only brings up that he *and/or others* could well have been involved.
5619  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: JOSHUA ZIPKINS THE MAN WHO DDOS'd BTCTALK!!!! on: May 27, 2015, 11:31:47 PM
Bitcointalk was DDoS'd?
No.
The OP picked a bad name for the thread. However they were hacked via Social Engineering Hack. Once their intrusion was detected the Forum went off-line for cleanup.
5620  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: May 16, 2015, 01:54:51 AM
The stock boards don't have the current measurement anymore; that feature was too expensive to implement in mass (not many people wanted it). Also, the Bitmain PSU is C13/C14 plug and the DPS2K is C19/C20.
Post corrected about the plug, thanks. Might as well add that one source for 240v C19/20 cords is http://www.stayonline.com/detail.aspx?id=38741

Bummer about the current signal. It isn't derived inside the PSU and just bought out via the high-density plug?
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